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Spielman credits Ponder as much as Peterson for playoff berth

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Vikings running back Adrian Peterson was the NFL’s MVP last season, and Vikings quarterback Christian Ponder was often criticized for not doing enough to capitalize on the way opposing defenses were keying on Minnesota’s running game. But Vikings General Manager Rick Spielman doesn’t see it that way.

In fact, Spielman told Albert Breer of NFL Network that he believes Ponder is as responsible as anyone, Peterson included, for the way the Vikings fought their way into the playoffs at the end of the season.

I give him just as much credit for getting us in the playoffs as Adrian,” Spielman said.

Spielman said that the Vikings’ four-game winning streak to close the regular season showed a lot from the team’s young players, including Ponder.

“When we did have that dip last year, when we lost some games, and we had to win those four games to get in the playoffs, that showed maturation of this roster, as those young guys started to grow and handle that pressure of everything that was at stake as we went through that last part of the season,” Spielman said. “So you’re hoping and you’re expecting that to carry on to this year.”

It’s probably not realistic to think Peterson could be any better in 2013 than he was in 2012. So if the Vikings’ offense is going to keep getting better this year, the improvement will need to come from Ponder.

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  1. shaggytoodle says: May 8, 2013 12:07 PM

    Some people believe Spielman is a magician, but he isn’t a genius.

    Does he know what MVP means?

  2. filthymcnasty1 says: May 8, 2013 12:10 PM

    Did he say it with a straight face?

  3. logicalvoicesays says: May 8, 2013 12:10 PM

    But most of all, the real credit goes to the HGH and doctor who prescribed Adrian Cheaterson the dope he needed to play like he did. #CheatersonstoleRGIIIsMVP

  4. mlmike25 says: May 8, 2013 12:11 PM

    Rick is right.

    In the last game of the season vs GB, it was win and in. With the stakes as high as possible in the regular season, Ponder had his best game as a pro.

    I know AD ran for 200 yards in that game, but if the Vikes lost that game dispite AD’s performance, Ponder would’ve been to blame. So why shouldn’t he get some credit for the win?

  5. wsperegoiv says: May 8, 2013 12:13 PM

    Ponder certainly improved down the stretch but there’s a reason Adrian was MVP.

  6. beardinals says: May 8, 2013 12:14 PM

    Isn’t it best for him to just say nothing in a case like this?

  7. giantsalldaysb42461 says: May 8, 2013 12:14 PM

    I will definitely be using this team in Madden this year with there Offseason Moves lol.

  8. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: May 8, 2013 12:15 PM

    Obviously Peterson is the more valuable player, but there’s no doubt we don’t win all four of those games without Ponder playing the way he did. Against Houston, Peterson only had 86 yards and was hurt. Ponder was the key to that victory from the first drive. Peterson had 199 against the Packers but we don’t win without Ponder’s clutch passing, especially in the fourth quarter. I was worried about Ponder in the middle of the season, but the last few games gave a lot of reason for optimism.

  9. purpwalk says: May 8, 2013 12:16 PM

    hmm, really? c’mon ricky, still selling the ponder, huh? he’s gotta improve a lot this year

  10. timothyinbrazil says: May 8, 2013 12:16 PM

    If Ponder has the same amount of credit for getting to the playoffs, who on the team does not get that same amount? I do not understand, even in those last 4 games, how you give the same amount of credit to the QB as you do for the RB that is the biggest difference maker on the team?

    Is the point of this article something other than logic and facts about last season for the MV?

    Could it be a hug and a pat on the back for CP?

  11. kevinwi says: May 8, 2013 12:18 PM

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but Peterson started in 2010 when Vikings won only 6 games.

    He also started in 2011 when the team went 3-13.

    He also started in 2012 in the playoff game the Vikings lost when Ponder was injured.
    He started the first 4 games of the 2012 season where he didn’t get over 100 yards where the Vikings went 3-1.

    Yes, the QB Ponder had as much to do with the success last year as Peterson.

    Peterson is an absolutely amazing running back/football player. But he cannot do it all by himself.
    Peterson got on a roll late, but Ponder played well the last 4 games coming out of his slump. … and we needed it too, because Peterson had an off game vs HOU.

    Anyway, he’s not a great QB, by far, but he had a lot to do with the Vikings 10 wins last year. Could he have done it without AP? no.
    Could AP have done it with Webb? no. So Speilman was right.

  12. kheebner says: May 8, 2013 12:18 PM

    He’s just saying that for PR. I’m surprised AP doesn’t have back problems from carrying that team

  13. 23chameleons says: May 8, 2013 12:19 PM

    Eight games throwing under 175 yds ?
    Five games without throwing a TD ?

    I think Spielman is doing a disservice to ADP.

    In what is long overdue, Tricky Rick got 2 guys that can now catch the ball at the WR position (although off-set by the trade of Harvin) and some help late in the draft at G. Not sure it’s enough. Perhaps they shouldn’t have stockpiled picks on the defensive side of the ball.

  14. packinmn says: May 8, 2013 12:19 PM

    Totally correct. Packers fear of Ponder caused them to play a lot of dime. Uh, that’s why we gave up 400+ yards regular season to AP. Ya..that’s it…

  15. filthymcnasty1 says: May 8, 2013 12:19 PM

    Rick Speilman has no respect at all for the intelligence of Viking fans. Even Packer fans know that Viking fans aren’t dumb enough to believe this load of crap.

  16. majikbullet says: May 8, 2013 12:20 PM

    The entire Franchise is a complete joke! SMH!

  17. blacknole08 says: May 8, 2013 12:20 PM

    As he should. Ponder may not have astronomical pass yards like the elites do but he has proven he can win in the NFL.

    He can make the throws when needed and doesn’t turn the ball over. He is Aaron Rodgers-like in the way he spreads the ball to different recievers (NOT saying he is Rodgers though). Add on the fact that he played most of last season w/o Percy Harvin. And his other wideouts (aside from Kyle Rudolph) were inconsistent at best.

    Luckily with AP he doesn’t have to make the big throws. Hand it off to him and just watch him work his magic.

  18. joecancun says: May 8, 2013 12:21 PM

    Just when I thought that Spielman had a good head on his shoulders.

  19. adenaguy says: May 8, 2013 12:23 PM

    AP doesn’t care who gets credit for what. Only thing he’s got to say is “people, get out of my way”.

  20. trbowman says: May 8, 2013 12:23 PM

    The fact that Spielman feels compelled to say this speaks volumes.

    Only Joe Webb by comparison could make Ponder look good.

    Sad that even in this day and age teams stick by guys who clearly can’t get the job done.

  21. whatjusthapped says: May 8, 2013 12:24 PM

    Lucky Spieladope is not Pinocchio because his nose would be last seen heading west of I-94 towards Fargo, ND.

    If he truly believes that company line, its great news for the other 31 teams because that means he will be sticking with Ponder longer (not that Matt Cassel is any better)

    I will grant Viking fans that Ponder is a better Qb than T Jack Off but how low do you want to set the bar of comparison? So low that you can sneak the Viking’s trophy case underneath it?

  22. theytukrjobs says: May 8, 2013 12:25 PM

    There is no doubt that Ponder elevated his play to a degree we hadn’t seen from him yet over those last 4 games. So I would say that Ponder’s elevated play was every bit as important to getting in as AP’s elevated play down the stretch.

    What sometimes gets lost is that Ponder put up very solid, efficieny passing numbers down the stretch despite having absolutely nothing at WR (Harvin hurt) and the team constantly running plays out of running formations. It is very, very hard to put up good passing numbers with only 1 or 2 crappy WR’s on the field, regardless of how good your run game is.

    But the reason the Vikings had to win 4 straight against playoff caliber teams was that Ponder had almost single handedly put them into that hole to begin with. In that case, maybe he gets extra credit!

  23. raybrower says: May 8, 2013 12:26 PM

    Sometimes my wife will do huge cleaning of the house. Scrubbing floors and walls and moving furniture and all that craziness. I don’t help a whole lot, maybe load the dishwasher or something, but I still refer to it as “US” cleaning the house. I think that’s what is going on here.

  24. twonis says: May 8, 2013 12:26 PM

    Spielman then credited the moon, just as much as the sun, with making the flowers grow.

  25. getadealdonealready says: May 8, 2013 12:26 PM

    If you disagree with Spielman’s assessment then I would urge you to go back and watch Webb’s performance in the playoff game, if you can stomach it. That alone should show you the importance CP had to this offense.

    Take nothing away from the MVP, but one player can not do it by himself, and CP took just enough heat off of AD to make last year possible, now can he continue to grow and be a legitimate NFL quality QB, and stay healthy – that will be the difference in a playoff appearance, and possibly winning one or more playoff games.

  26. Carl Gerbschmidt says: May 8, 2013 12:27 PM

    They should probably go back and check the MVP ballots, beacuse I don’t see how AD can be the league MVP when he’s not even the MVP of his own team…

  27. vavikingfan says: May 8, 2013 12:28 PM

    Yes , Ponder deserves everlasting praise and canonization for the way he handed the ball to Adrian…..No NFL QB has ever performed that feat before and I am in total awe of that great achievement. And apparently Ponder has some other skills like photography or videography.

  28. 27xplayoffs says: May 8, 2013 12:29 PM

    The more Spielman opens his mouth, the more I come to realize that we’re not going to win a Super Bowl while AD is in his prime. Oh well, maybe the ’20s will be our decade…

  29. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: May 8, 2013 12:29 PM

    I think Ponder haters want it both ways. They say we need to upgrade at quarterback because it’s the most important position, but they don’t want to give him any credit for victories. If QB is the most important position then you need good QB play to win, don’t you? Yes, he had a lot of bad games, but he was the MVP of the Houston game and he was just as important as AD in the Green Bay game. They got blown out in the playoffs because Ponder couldn’t play. Is it that controversial to say that Ponder had to play as well as he did down the stretch in order for the Vikings to make the playoffs? He didn’t say he deserves co-NFL MVP.

  30. deeppurple15 says: May 8, 2013 12:31 PM

    heck yeah ponder deserves credit thaat was a tough four game stretch! houston,the bears,the Rams and the packers Ponder had a better completion percentage than Stafford And Cutler last season and he didn’t have the luxery of having a top 5 reciever i’d like to see what those guys could do with recievers like jairus wright,michael jenkins,and jerome simpson. say what u want about him but he’s got alot of potential just wait till this year with jennings ruduolph and corrdarrelle patterson! he’s gonna light it up

  31. jusford says: May 8, 2013 12:31 PM

    Proof positive that the Vikings are a delusional organization.

  32. waltmink says: May 8, 2013 12:32 PM

    Maybe it’s actually easier to see the big picture from where I sit – which is on the couch, in front of the tv set? Call it a gut instinct, 40 years of being a Vikings fan, whatever you like but I’ll stick with my guns when I said 2 years ago the Vikings will never, ever win a SB with Ponder at QB. The guy just doesn’t have “it.” I don’t know why the Vikes are content to hang their hat on Ponder, the same way they wasted time with Tavaris? Get over it and get yourself a new QB.
    Oh, and by the way, Peterson won’t come close to the season he had last year.
    Kiss this season goodbye.

  33. mnnightowl says: May 8, 2013 12:33 PM

    Blasphemy. The Vikes front office has utterly drowned itself drinking Ponder Kool Aid.

  34. skns2thend says: May 8, 2013 12:35 PM

    How in the world is there even a close, relevant comparison of ponder and Peterson for the Vikings success. You take ponder out with a replacement QB and they still make the playoffs with Peterson. And w/o Peterson…well, no playoffs.
    Spielman needs smacked for degrading Peterson and the hard work, and just the desire to be there for his team thru his rehab and off season conditioning.
    I’m not a Vikings fan @all. But Peterson has earned the Vikings fans respect, and mine as well, and ponder has done nothing of the such!
    HTTR

  35. saints4life57 says: May 8, 2013 12:35 PM

    @23chameleons, ty for being the one to post this guys stats! Can’t argue with that! I think Ponder did get a little better as the season went on but he still has ton’s of work to do if he even wants to be a average QB in this league! And i’m sorry CP is no AP by any means!

  36. jusford says: May 8, 2013 12:37 PM

    So did Ponder take away MVP votes from Peterson during that 4 week stretch?

  37. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: May 8, 2013 12:44 PM

    Packer fans have a hard time understanding how a team could have more than one player contribute to a victory. They have a one-man team and every other player is superfluous.

  38. filthymcnasty1 says: May 8, 2013 12:50 PM

    Ponder is the guy, which is why any competition for the starting QB position has been STRICTLY FORBIDDEN by the team.

    Obviously Ponder’s psyche is even more fragile than his bruised arm.

  39. prideof10000lakes says: May 8, 2013 12:50 PM

    its funny that within 10 minutes of this article being posted, the 3 biggest, most worried Packer trolls came out of the wood work to express their worry.

    Ponder didnt have a great year, but he did everything the team asked him to do with an MVP on our team. If Ponder was the reason the passing game was so bad, then why do we only have 1 potential returning WR?

  40. condor75 says: May 8, 2013 12:52 PM

    So you witnessed him using it, you have para normal senses, or , are you simply talking out of your behind?

  41. fargovikesfan says: May 8, 2013 12:53 PM

    Plain and simple. Ponder looked horrid over the middle 1/3 of the season. The last 4 games, he made considerable improvement, in spite of only having one real target to throw to (Rudolph), and a few to Jenkins & Wright. This year there are no excuses. Rudolph coming off a Pro Bowl season, adding one of the better possession WR’s in the league with Jennings, another year under the belt for Wright, and the addition of Patterson give him plenty of targets to throw to. If Ponder doesn’t continue to build and improve on his last 4 games last season, then its on him and it’ll be time to look for a replacement. He’ll never be a Manning, Brady, Brees, or Rodgers, but if he can ascend to the level of a Flacco/Ryan type, we’ll be in good shape

  42. deflateddome says: May 8, 2013 12:53 PM

    Totally correct. Packers fear of Ponder caused them to play a lot of dime. Uh, that’s why we gave up 400+ yards regular season to AP. Ya..that’s it…

    Nice work moron, in attempting to insult the Vikings, you just showed what 2 all Pros and 53 Packer free agents can do against the run. Without Rodgers, you are a 4-12 team

  43. Getoffmylawn! says: May 8, 2013 12:55 PM

    He’s right. I didn’t see anyone else hand the ball off to Peterson.

  44. prideof10000lakes says: May 8, 2013 12:55 PM

    The only game that Ponder actually lost for the viking was the 1st game against the Packers when he threw two terrible decision passes.

    Games that he won: San Francisco, Tennesee, 2nd Lions Game, 2nd Packers game.

    he only averaged 30 passes a game, which shows that he wasn’t asked to do a whole lot in his REAL first year in the league.

    and of those 30 passes, he averaged 18 completions for a season average 62.1% completion percentage.

    Sharon Rodgers 2012 completion %: 67%

    It just depends on doing what it takes to win ball games.

  45. peanutele24 says: May 8, 2013 12:56 PM

    Hey you Gotta have somebody to hand the ball off

  46. deflateddome says: May 8, 2013 12:57 PM

    But most of all, the real credit goes to the HGH and doctor who prescribed Adrian Cheaterson the dope he needed to play like he did. #CheatersonstoleRGIIIsMVP

    You are another dope. They don’t give MVP’s to people on injured reserve. When RG3 has more injuries this year, you will be gnawing on your knuckles giving up another 1st round pick next year.

  47. prideof10000lakes says: May 8, 2013 12:59 PM

    waltmink says:May 8, 2013 12:32 PM

    Maybe it’s actually easier to see the big picture from where I sit – which is on the couch, in front of the tv set? Call it a gut instinct, 40 years of being a Vikings fan, whatever you like but I’ll stick with my guns when I said 2 years ago the Vikings will never, ever win a SB with Ponder at QB. The guy just doesn’t have “it.” I don’t know why the Vikes are content to hang their hat on Ponder, the same way they wasted time with Tavaris? Get over it and get yourself a new QB.
    Oh, and by the way, Peterson won’t come close to the season he had last year.
    Kiss this season goodbye.

    _________________

    Name a better option in the last 2 years? Donovan Mcnabb?

    I agree with what you’re saying but what we’re doing with Ponder is the same thing that the Niners did with Alex Smith.

    You don’t just go out and “get yourself a new qb”.

  48. bigmarsh57 says: May 8, 2013 12:59 PM

    I would have loved to see Parcells answer that question.

  49. stevent92 says: May 8, 2013 1:02 PM

    Ponder’s Rating was 92.8 through the first 6 games, and 95.3 for the last 3. It was the middle 7 games that he was average at best (rating 60) and the Vikings went 3-4.

    I’d say as Ponder goes, so go the Vikings. Spielman’s right. He doesn’t have to be Brees, Brady or Manning to get the job done for us. All we need is what he gave us at the beginning & end of the season and we’ll be just fine.

  50. filthymcnasty1isadouche says: May 8, 2013 1:05 PM

    logicalvoicesays says:
    “…the real credit goes to the HGH and doctor who prescribed Adrian Cheaterson”

    ————————————-
    So you’re saying if Bob Griffin has a good year he must be using HGH, right?

  51. vikingstillidie says: May 8, 2013 1:07 PM

    Jennings, Wright, Patterson, Rudolph, Felton, an O-line and A.p.
    …Ponder, now or never.

  52. bearssuck says: May 8, 2013 1:07 PM

    Everytime I look at a picture of this guy, he looks like such goof ball. Sure as heck doesn’t look as tough as his bro does.

  53. johngaltwho says: May 8, 2013 1:07 PM

    I love the offseason.

    Everyone looks at their draft moves and free agency pick ups and talks about how now they’re gonna win their division, now they’re gonna win the superbowl.

    Its true, everyone’s undefeated before the season starts and everyone should feel like they are heading for a championship season.

    And its only natural that a Vikings General Manager would point out how great his young quarterback has played and what this means for the future.

    But we all know the truth don’t we?

    You put any average quarterback in place of Ponder for the 2012 season and the Vikings are, well, they are the Vikings. You put any average running back in for AP last year and the Vikings have the first pick of the 2013 draft.

  54. brutus9448 says: May 8, 2013 1:08 PM

    ponder would be Matt Leinart if it wasn’t for peterson

  55. viking28 says: May 8, 2013 1:09 PM

    Was that Sam Ponder or the GM stating that about CP7’s play this past season …..Ba Ha

  56. Norseman says: May 8, 2013 1:10 PM

    AP won the MVP last year because he had the 2nd best year for a RB all-time, and came within about 12 yards of breaking the record.

    But, as just about anyone knows, you don’t win games and make the playoffs based on the strength of your RB alone. QB has to at least play descent.

    During the last 4 games of the regular season last year, Christian Ponder had the 2nd highest passer rating in the league, behind only Peyton Manning. So, yes, Ponder can play. He had a great game early in the season too when the Vikings beat the 9ers.

    But he also had bad games that cost the Vikings victories. The worst was the 1st game against the Packers- his QBR that game was in the single-digits. Had he finished with even a mediocre rating that game, the Vikings win and go on to win the division.

    Ponder doesn’t have to be a top-tier QB for the Vikings to win a Super Bowl. He has to be good, not great. The Vikings have a solid team around him, so he needs to be a good game manager, efficient, not create turnovers. If he can do that more consistently next year, the Vikings will go deep into the playoffs.

  57. irishstout says: May 8, 2013 1:10 PM

    Packers fan, so its cool if Vikes fans don’t care about my opinion, but here it is.

    AP is the Vikings Aaron Rodgers. You might lose with him, but you WILL lose without him. He is “The Man” of that team as much as Rodgers is “The Man” at Green Bay.

    I see a lot of people, a lot of Vikes fans, want to either say “Ponder’s great and underrated” or “Ponder is terrible and should be run out of town”.

    The way I see it, Ponder is ok. He’s fine. He’s a decent, not-too-talented (in the NFL context) QB who you can generally trust to do his job, though not spectacularly. He is a starter level, middle of the road NFL QB.

    Now, if you think you can get someone who will definitely be top tier to replace him of course do that. But those QBs don’t grow on trees, and I generally think teams with alright QBs that start musical chairs at QB are making a mistake most of the time.

  58. filthymcnasty1 says: May 8, 2013 1:13 PM

    Spielman has once again dramatically illustrated the intelligence he used in giving birth to 3-13.

  59. shaggytoodle says: May 8, 2013 1:14 PM

    Rick Spielman is a Magician says:
    May 8, 2013 12:29 PM
    I think Ponder haters want it both ways. They say we need to upgrade at quarterback because it’s the most important position, but they don’t want to give him any credit for victories.
    _________

    That’s because of Ponder’s style of play, when he hands it off 30 times a guy, he is not going to get as much love.

    Especially with the pressure of being drafted in the first 12 picks of a draft. You can get guys like Schaub or Wilson in later rounds, and those guys a pretty talented.

    1 great player can make a team good, but it takes a bunch of good players to make a team great.

  60. peytonsneckl8 says: May 8, 2013 1:18 PM

    Griffin doesn’t need HGH. HTTR!!!

  61. filthymcnasty1 says: May 8, 2013 1:22 PM

    On December 9, I don’t know how the Vikings would have beaten da Bears without Ponder’s 11-17 for 91 yards and 0 TD’s with an INT.

    I think it’s shameful that people look at AP’s 154 yards rushing that day as being somehow more important.

  62. filthymcnasty1isadouche says: May 8, 2013 1:23 PM

    deeppurple15 says:

    “Ponder had a better completion percentage than Stafford And Cutler last season and he didn’t have the luxery of having a top 5 reciever i’d like to see what those guys could do with recievers like jairus wright,michael jenkins,and jerome simpson.”

    ————————————
    Why does Ponder get ripped more than Matthew “throw it up for grabs and let Megatron go get it” Stafford? #1 overall pick Stafford’s record as a starter….17-29.

  63. tokyosandblaster says: May 8, 2013 1:26 PM

    deflateddome says:
    May 8, 2013 12:53 PM
    Totally correct. Packers fear of Ponder caused them to play a lot of dime. Uh, that’s why we gave up 400+ yards regular season to AP. Ya..that’s it…

    Nice work moron, in attempting to insult the Vikings, you just showed what 2 all Pros and 53 Packer free agents can do against the run. Without Rodgers, you are a 4-12 team

    With Peterson and Ponder, you were a 3-13 team, no?

    Without Peterson, you don’t win one game.

  64. shaggytoodle says: May 8, 2013 1:29 PM

    prideof10000lakes says:
    May 8, 2013 12:50 PM
    its funny that within 10 minutes of this article being posted, the 3 biggest, most worried Packer trolls came out of the wood work to express their worry.

    Ponder didnt have a great year, but he did everything the team asked him to do with an MVP on our team. If Ponder was the reason the passing game was so bad, then why do we only have 1 potential returning WR?
    _________

    Harvin couldn’t take another year of Ponder.

    Also don’t be a hypocrite, when it comes to others posting on stories. I see your named plastered across Packer threads as well. Not a complaint by any means, just fact.

  65. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: May 8, 2013 1:31 PM

    You know what Aaron Rodgers was doing before his third season? Planning to wait another year before he would finally get off the bench.

  66. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: May 8, 2013 1:32 PM

    If Ponder doesn’t do well this year, the Vikings will draft a new QB next year in a deep QB draft. It would make no sense to replace him this year while he still has potential and there are no better options.

  67. prideof10000lakes says: May 8, 2013 1:34 PM

    filthymcnasty1 says:May 8, 2013 1:13 PM

    “Spielman has once again dramatically illustrated the intelligence he used in giving birth to 3-13.”

    “On December 9, I don’t know how the Vikings would have beaten da Bears without Ponder’s 11-17 for 91 yards and 0 TD’s with an INT. ”
    _____________________

    REMINDER: Packers 2005 record: 4-12

    And in the same bears game that you speak of, Cutler threw 44 times for 260 yards, 2 picks and 1 td and lost.

    Do you think it was ponders decision to only throw 19 times or do you think maybe the coaching staff asked him to do that? Again, like ive said, it all comes down to doing what is asked of you to win games.

    ESPN has brainwashed the world into thinkin the NFL is flag football and passing games somehow win championships.

  68. filthymcnasty1isadouche says: May 8, 2013 1:41 PM

    johngaltwho says:

    “You put any average quarterback in place of Ponder for the 2012 season and the Vikings are, well, they are the Vikings. You put any average running back in for AP last year and the Vikings have the first pick of the 2013 draft.”

    —————————————-
    This is also true for the Packers if you put an average QB in for Rodgers.

  69. filthymcnasty1 says: May 8, 2013 1:41 PM

    Ponder sat out of the Vikings playoff humiliation against Green Bay with an arm bruise.

  70. shaggytoodle says: May 8, 2013 1:44 PM

    filthymcnasty1isadouche says:
    May 8, 2013 1:23 PM

    Why does Ponder get ripped more than Matthew “throw it up for grabs and let Megatron go get it” Stafford? #1 overall pick Stafford’s record as a starter….17-29.
    __________
    Stafford had almost many pass attempts last year, as Ponder has his career. So Ponder better have a better %.

    He got drafted to an 0-16 team and another GM had clean up the previous’ very messy house. Stafford is a better QB overall, but I think he may be on a path to a Romoesque career.

  71. bzillaz says: May 8, 2013 1:47 PM

    Rick is right. For the naysayers, if all you do is look at compiled stats, then you could draw the conclusion that Ponder was quite weak. However, the truth is that Ponders numbers are low because Adrian ran us to victory in many games. Why would Ponder try to throw for 250 yards when we already had another recipe for success that worked? Also, if you actually watched the games, Ponder frequently made clutch throws that could also be seen as the key to victory. Ponder did exactly what was asked of him, and it lead to 10 wins. All this being said, you can’t count on Adrian running us to victory every game, and Ponder will need to take the next steps forward to be the Vikings QB in 2014.

  72. prideof10000lakes says: May 8, 2013 1:50 PM

    shaggytoodle says:May 8, 2013 1:29 PM

    Harvin couldn’t take another year of Ponder.

    Also don’t be a hypocrite, when it comes to others posting on stories. I see your named plastered across Packer threads as well. Not a complaint by any means, just fact.
    ________________

    Harvin also said that we wouldn’t win another game without him after he decided to place himsel on IR.

    So you’re going to believe THAT GUY?

    Also, I joined PFT about a week ago in response to the false, biased opinions that are constantly being thrown around as if they are fact. Gets pretty annoying

  73. filthymcnasty1 says: May 8, 2013 2:12 PM

    On Ponder’s best day he is a poor man’s Joey Harrington.

  74. tokyosandblaster says: May 8, 2013 2:18 PM

    Seriously…

    You guys need to just stop defending this.

    If Ted Thompson would say that DuJuan Harris was just as responsible for winning the division as Aaron Rodgers, we’d laugh at him.

    Just drop the homer shades for one in your lives.

  75. filthymcnasty1 says: May 8, 2013 2:20 PM

    Viking fans can’t really be expected to understand quality play from the QB , as they’ve generally been incompetent at the position going back to the days when Fran Tarkenton was choking away Superbowls.

  76. mrintrigue says: May 8, 2013 2:23 PM

    I don’t know how well Ponder played for much of the year… but I will give him credit for how well he played against my 49er’s. He made a couple of plays that were the difference in that game.

  77. filthymcnasty1isadouche says: May 8, 2013 2:38 PM

    shaggytoodle says:

    “Stafford is a better QB overall, but I think he may be on a path to a Romoesque career.”

    —————————————–
    Stafford will be lucky if he has a career like Romo.

  78. shaggytoodle says: May 8, 2013 2:39 PM

    prideof10000lakes says:
    May 8, 2013 1:50 PM
    Harvin also said that we wouldn’t win another game without him after he decided to place himsel on IR.

    So you’re going to believe THAT GUY?
    ___________________

    When he says I can’t play with this guy, then gets traded?

    Yes I am going to believe him that he can’t stand playing with Ponder.

  79. filthymcnasty1isadouche says: May 8, 2013 2:41 PM

    I wonder if Aaron Rodgers and Clay Matthews appreciate Chirs Kluwe’s defense of their right to get married?

  80. vikescry1 says: May 8, 2013 2:47 PM

    So what your saying is that the MVP was really just average? As a packers fan ap had a phenomenal year and ponder looked OK at times but ponder didn’t look like an MVP. Wow sorry viking fans but if ponder doesn’t pick his game up you all aren’t going to sniff a Superbowl.

  81. tokyosandblaster says: May 8, 2013 2:48 PM

    filthymcnasty1isadouche says:
    May 8, 2013 2:38 PM
    shaggytoodle says:

    “Stafford is a better QB overall, but I think he may be on a path to a Romoesque career.”

    —————————————–
    Stafford will be lucky if he has a career like Romo.

    And ponder will be lucky if he has a career like Vince young.

  82. pillowporkers says: May 8, 2013 2:52 PM

    It’s disheartening how many Vikings fans want Christian Ponder to fail. How does that get the Vikings closer to a Super Bowl? So many Vikings fans just expect some great franchise QB to just show up at training camp (probably in an Escalade), when they clearly don’t appreciate it takes some work and time to get there (BAL, NYG). It’s not easy to find a franchise QB. I don’t see how starting over at the QB position by drafting a rookie, or bringing in another over the hill QB gets us any closer to the Super Bowl than hoping Ponder can step up and take his game to the next level. Were taking the proper steps to get Ponder to become our franchise QB, and I’ll support this all day. Go Vikes and good luck Ponder! Take us to the Ship!

  83. minnesoulja says: May 8, 2013 2:52 PM

    Its sad how many people spend time knocking these PR stunts from a front office guy.

    11 guys on the field. They all play a part of every victory AND defeat. Team sports.

    I am sure it wasn’t said to take anything away from Adrian’s incredible season. Probably more so to put a vote of confidence in their still young and developing quarterback. He does deserve some credit for a playoff birth. The whole organization does.

    Only one team wins the championship in the end. A lot of hearts get broken. Especially when the only way so many of us judge a “successful” season is by a super bowl win.

    I think Ponder has earned his nod at starting QB in week one, at least so far. Just like coaches, us fans should watch real cloesly week to week and go from their. Skol baby Skol.

  84. squared80 says: May 8, 2013 2:55 PM

    AP carried the team all season, but if you watched the last few weeks (without Percy), Ponder lit it up. Without that, AP or not, they don’t make the playoffs.

  85. ad2k says: May 8, 2013 3:02 PM

    waltmink says:
    May 8, 2013 12:32 PM
    Maybe it’s actually easier to see the big picture from where I sit – which is on the couch, in front of the tv set? Call it a gut instinct, 40 years of being a Vikings fan, whatever you like but I’ll stick with my guns when I said 2 years ago the Vikings will never, ever win a SB with Ponder at QB. The guy just doesn’t have “it.” I don’t know why the Vikes are content to hang their hat on Ponder, the same way they wasted time with Tavaris? Get over it and get yourself a new QB.
    Oh, and by the way, Peterson won’t come close to the season he had last year.
    Kiss this season goodbye.

    Fans like you are the reason the Vikings haven’t ever been able to develop a quarterback. You must just have some unknown trait that GMs dont to just tell when a quarterback doesn’t have “it”. Ponder has put up nearly identical numbers to Matt Ryan who most consider to be a good quarterback. You expect immediate results from young guys when most don’t really produce well until their 3rd and 4th season. Eli Manning is a good example. Half of New York wanted him gone but look at him now with 2 Super Bowl rings. Give the guy a chance before you decide you don’t want him to succeed.

  86. 8to80texansblog says: May 8, 2013 3:54 PM

    logicalvoicesays says: May 8, 2013 12:10 PM

    But most of all, the real credit goes to the HGH and doctor who prescribed Adrian Cheaterson the dope he needed to play like he did. #CheatersonstoleRGIIIsMVP
    ====================

    You know RG3 is using HGH right now don’t you??? Or are you that naive?

    Plus RG3 was WAYYYYY down the MVP list…. In my opinion he didn’t even deserve ROY…. Russell Wilson please.

  87. vikings2011 says: May 8, 2013 4:07 PM

    Don’t be so quick to dismiss Spielman’s statement. In the Vikings playoff-clinching victory over Green Bay in Week 17, Ponder was 16/28 for 234 yards, with 3 TD passes and no picks, and a QB rating of 120. Ponder didn’t throw a pick in the last four weeks of the season, even though Percy Harvin was in Florida nursing his ‘wounds.’ The Vikings passing game was truly awful last year, but Ponder made enough plays to balance the offense and help the team make the playoffs.

  88. theytukrjobs says: May 8, 2013 4:21 PM

    Basically Ponder played well for the last 4 games of the season is what this comes down to. Whoopidy doo.

    I don’t think Ponder has really done anythign to “prove” that he can or can’t be a franchise QB. This is the year though. If he doesn’t play good, and I mean better than half of the QB’s in the league, then the Vikings should draft a new one.

    Last year I feel that Ponder overall was the 17th best QB in the NFL based on ESPN’s total QBR, which I think is the best measure of efficiency. Over the last 4 games he probably played more like the 12 best QB in the game.

    So if he can elevate to top 10 this year then I’m on the bandwagon. If not, let’s bring in a high draft pick to compete.

  89. vikings2011 says: May 8, 2013 4:22 PM

    Compare the stat lines below for 2 quarterbacks after their first full 16 game season. The first is Eli Manning and the other is Ponder. Eli may have had more yards but Ponder’s stat line isn’t that bad.

    Eli
    Comp.: 52.8% Yards: 3,762 TD: 24 INT: 17
    QB Rating: 75.9
    Ponder
    Comp.: 62.1% Yards: 2,935 TD: 18 INT: 12
    QB Rating: 81.2

  90. dtrb10 says: May 8, 2013 4:32 PM

    Well he is right because they had to have someone to hand AD the ball so in essence he was just as much to do with as AD

  91. deflateddome says: May 8, 2013 4:36 PM

    tokyosandblaster says:
    May 8, 2013 2:48 PM
    filthymcnasty1isadouche says:
    May 8, 2013 2:38 PM
    shaggytoodle says:

    “Stafford is a better QB overall, but I think he may be on a path to a Romoesque career.”

    —————————————–
    Stafford will be lucky if he has a career like Romo.

    And ponder will be lucky if he has a career like Vince young.

    ———————

    And Sherrod is a bust, Perry is a bust and Lacy is a bust waiting to happen. Not to mention the allworld play of Truman Williams and AJ Hawk and Marshall Newhouse. Yes, the Packer are world beaters

  92. freebledsoe says: May 8, 2013 5:25 PM

    This is all about trying to pump up the confidence of Ponder, and give him some credibility in the media and public to those who might buy it. IMO this is Ponder’s year to make or break his career. Rick and the management, as well as coaches and leading players have all been boosting Christian this offseason. The WR acquisitions this year, along with Wright from last year and possible Guard help put the burden squarely on Ponder’s shoulders to either show he can be the guy, or be gone.

  93. bordner says: May 8, 2013 6:39 PM

    This is exactly what the rest of the NFC North needs! The longer Ponder remains the vikings’ starting quarterback, the longer they will remain mired in mediocrity. Peterson will either burn out or see his production drop once he’s off the PED’s, the defense will continue to get older, and we can always count on vikings management to continue their historically poor decision-making trend. This is almost better than having Chilly as HC!

    If purple is the color of kings – long may King Ponder reign!

  94. filthymcnasty1 says: May 8, 2013 9:17 PM

    Ponder’s so called “strong” finish:

    91 yards vs. Da Bears.
    131 yards vs. the Rams.
    174 yards vs. the Texans.
    234 yards vs. the Packers.

    0 yards in the playoff game because he sat out with an arm bruise.

  95. bryco9 says: May 8, 2013 10:45 PM

    Leinart is would be a significant upgrade, even he could quarterback a team with A.P. in the backfield. Step 1. stand under center, step 2. hand ball to Peterson, step 3. celebrate the touchdown. A.P. is the only reason the Vikings had any success, they should have been a 3 win team, period.

  96. zn0rseman says: May 8, 2013 11:17 PM

    This will be Ponder’s 2nd year at QB. Remember, his first year had absolutely no offseason. He put up nearly 3,000 yards and 18 TD’s and only 12 picks in a season where his top receivers were Micheal Jenkins and Jarius Wright.

  97. shaggytoodle says: May 9, 2013 9:38 AM

    @znorsman

    That is a weak excuse, and Ponder started 10 games his rookie seasons, so I don’t want to hear that.

    Newton, Locker, Dalton, and the rest the NFL didn’t have an off-season, either.

  98. deflateddome says: May 9, 2013 4:06 PM

    filthymcnasty1 says:
    May 8, 2013 9:17 PM
    Ponder’s so called “strong” finish:

    91 yards vs. Da Bears.
    131 yards vs. the Rams.
    174 yards vs. the Texans.
    234 yards vs. the Packers.

    0 yards in the playoff game because he sat out with an arm bruise.

    ————————-
    And Peterson avergaing 200 per game. There is only one ball fool.

  99. stevegie says: May 11, 2013 8:27 PM

    Everyone should read the latest bleacher report. Not to put Ponder in these guys’ class yet but Rodgers, Manning, and Brady were garbage their first two years. It takes at least three to really develope.

  100. mastercow says: Aug 26, 2013 7:14 PM

    Of course Ponder should get some credit. They do need someone to hand off the ball to Adrian Peterson,

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