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Playing time is the primary sticking point for Abraham

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While there has been no reason to disregard the recent report that the Titans could be signing defensive end John Abraham “this week,” a source close to a calendar advises PFT  that “this week” is ending soon.

Regardless of whether Abraham signs with the Titans now, later, or never, the reason for his protracted presence on the market comes from his desire to spend extended time on the field.  A league source explains that Abraham is hoping to play 60 or more snaps per game, and that most teams with interest see the 35-year-old as a 25-play guy.

With reduced playing time comes reduced salary, which explains why he’s had a hard time getting paid the way he’s accustomed.

As to his reported reluctance to return to Atlanta, the arrival of Osi Umenyiora complicates the situation, because Abraham would end up with a lesser deal than Osi’s.  That makes it even harder for Abraham to justify going back to the team that tore up the last two years of the three-year deal he signed in 2012.

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28 Responses to “Playing time is the primary sticking point for Abraham”
  1. johnnyjagfan says: May 10, 2013 2:50 PM

    These coaches know that Abraham’s a beast, he’s older and when he does phenomenal athletic things, his injuries are bad and either cost him time or are the lingering types that limit his effectiveness.

    I don’t know how many plays he averaged last season, but that minus a few is a reasonable expectation for a guy being signed for what likely is a short-term contract that’s rich and partially guaranteed.

  2. tigerlilac says: May 10, 2013 2:52 PM

    Abraham is ill-advised. He has a much better shot at staying healthy and being a factor in the playoffs with a reduced role. It might even get him a second year. Smart coaches will realize that money is driving his decision and not a desire to play and win, which will make it even harder for him to catch on with one of the elite contenders (maybe 4 to 6 teams max).

  3. grice208 says: May 10, 2013 2:53 PM

    Sign the contract and earn your playing time.

  4. michlight95 says: May 10, 2013 2:53 PM

    Great vet the bills should add. But never will happen

  5. tigerlilac says: May 10, 2013 2:53 PM

    What’s the status with Dwight Freeney?

  6. gloryfromheaven says: May 10, 2013 2:55 PM

    It’s really all about money for these old guys.

  7. jwcarlson says: May 10, 2013 2:55 PM

    Time for the veterans to get over themselves.

  8. thetwilightsown says: May 10, 2013 3:05 PM

    Not a Falcons fan nor have I ever defended the greed and entitlement so proudly displayed by professional athletes over the last 10 years or so… but you have to admit it’s bizarre that a team would sign a player to a 3 year extension, see the player explode – old or not – for huge plays on the field on an elite level and at an extremely valuable position, then tear up said contract before the second year has even begun. I don’t think Abe is the only party chasing $$$ here.

  9. helladonks says: May 10, 2013 3:09 PM

    “A source close to a calendar” lol, nice

  10. tommyribs says: May 10, 2013 3:20 PM

    Bengals would be a great fir for him. On third down put him next to Atkins.

    Seahawks would make a lot of sense, the Bucs make a lot of sense too.

    25-30 Snaps per game of Abraham coming off the edge is still a good thing.

  11. draftrobot says: May 10, 2013 3:23 PM

    60 snaps per game adds up to 960 snaps in a season. Last year Abraham was on the field for 806 snaps. In 2011 he played 690 snaps. In 2010 he played 659 snaps. In 2009 he played 703 snaps. I understand wanting to be more than a 300-400 snap rotational player, but 60 snaps per game is a ton of time on the field.

  12. 11inthebox says: May 10, 2013 3:25 PM

    Oh man, the nerve of these guys trying to get as much money as they can!

    Don’t they realize only men like Arthur Blank and Bud Adams are allowed to do that?

  13. shecklesmckenzie says: May 10, 2013 3:41 PM

    twilight said :but you have to admit it’s bizarre that a team would sign a player to a 3 year extension, see the player explode – old or not – for huge plays on the field on an elite level and at an extremely valuable position, then tear up said contract before the second year has even begun.

    Look at his stats from last year…half of those sacks came in two games. Raiders and Cards. I would not say he is elite by any means. He was all the Falcons had as a pass rush, but in reality they didn’t have much of a pass rush with or without Abraham. If you remember last year, he was a FA and he wanted $12M a year…and settled on $5M+. He is old, takes forever to heal, and isn’t great against top talent. He has overvalued himself.

  14. hanifmiller says: May 10, 2013 3:48 PM

    Abraham is a good pass rusher and he produces respectable sack numbers. He is not great against the run. 25 plays is reasonable.

  15. lionsfan415 says: May 10, 2013 3:50 PM

    Doing my logical voice impression detroit style

    top 5 DE’s in the nfl

    5) Ronnel Lewis
    4) Willie Young
    3) Devin Taylor
    2) Jason Jones
    1) Ziggy Ansah

    im just kidding folks

  16. edsbay says: May 10, 2013 3:51 PM

    I live in ATL and am not a Falcons fan but have watched virtually every game John Abraham has played during his time with the Falcons and he is SOOOOOOOO FRICKING OVER RATED! The majority of his sacks come on broken plays or when the QB is flushed his way and he is standing there waiting for the QB to run into his arms. I don’t understand why people think this guy is such a beast. He is an above average aging DE that had better days with the Jets. He deserves very little of what he wants. Falcons were smart to tear up his last 2 years of his contract.

  17. logicalvoiccsays says: May 10, 2013 4:00 PM

    Stephen Bowen > this scrum bum

  18. Uptown Murf says: May 10, 2013 4:01 PM

    @ shecklesmckenzie said: Look at his stats from last year…half of those sacks came in two games. Raiders and Cards.
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    To me that proves Abraham’s point. Those were the two games the Falcons almost lost. Matt threw 8 total interceptions in both of those games combined. If Abe wasn’t there to save the day – imagine an 11-5 Falcons team having to go on the road to Green Bay or some place like that in the playoffs. Might not have had that playoff victory. Abe is not Elite – but you could combine everyone else on the teams sack total and still not get to 10…

  19. Uptown Murf says: May 10, 2013 4:11 PM

    @ Edsbay said: I live in ATL and am not a Falcons fan but have watched virtually every game John Abraham has played during his time with the Falcons and he is SOOOOOOOO FRICKING OVER RATED! The majority of his sacks come on broken plays or when the QB is flushed his way and he is standing there waiting for the QB to run into his arms. I don’t understand why people think this guy is such a beast. He is an above average aging DE that had better days with the Jets. He deserves very little of what he wants. Falcons were smart to tear up his last 2 years of his contract.
    ________

    Please don’t watch football anymore, that’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. First of all nobody else on the Falcons is much of a pass rush threat – sometimes the DT Babineux is, but more time than not – it’s Abe riding solo. So if Abe is lucking into sacks – why isn’t anyone else as lucky? And why is it year after year? He has 68.5 lucky sacks in his 7 seasons here in Atlanta. Including a 16.5 outburst in 2008.

    He had 53.5 in his 5 seasons in New York. His highest being 13..Please tell me how his better days were with the Jets? That should disqualify you from this discussion – for providing false statements.

    Hopefully you move back to where you came from as well. I’m tired of ppl like you breathing my Atlanta air and not knowing a thing about football..

  20. craigjosh says: May 10, 2013 4:23 PM

    Guess I can’t blame him. It’s fun to watch these vets sign. You can tell whether a guy is just looking for the biggest contract when they go to Buffalo or Oakland (bills fan here), or if they want to win the “Big Game” by going to the Pats or G-men. I can see both side. But this situation is a little different, he just loves the game and wants to play, I think that speaks volumes about him as a man and player. I would love him to come to Buffalo, but won’t happen. Either way I wish nothing but the best for this big Fella!

  21. cannonballdookie says: May 10, 2013 4:31 PM

    tommyribs says: May 10, 2013 3:20 PM

    Bengals would be a great fir for him. On third down put him next to Atkins.

    Seahawks would make a lot of sense, the Bucs make a lot of sense too.

    25-30 Snaps per game of Abraham coming off the edge is still a good thing.
    ————————————————-

    Both of those teams have extra pass rushers already, they would each be an awful fit. He should go somewhere like Tampa Bay, New Orleans, Denver, Detroit, New England, etc who can each use one more pass rusher to add to the mix. Tampa should be all over him, with the additions they’ve made, he’d be icing on the cake. No way to trust two unproven, unhealthy DE’s.

  22. rbirving says: May 10, 2013 4:44 PM

    Can’t believe people whining about what the guy wants.

    This could be his last year in the NFL, the last chance he has to make money playing this game. He should get as much as he can, because he’ll never make this much again.

  23. touchdownroddywhite says: May 10, 2013 7:08 PM

    At the end of the day, don’t be surprised when he comes home… He’s not going to get what he wants and whwn he doesn’t get better than what ATL is offering, he’ll decide that familiarity and the chance to miss some off season work while still being able to pick up the system tweaks and chase a ring is as good as it gets… Cant wait to see him and Osi coming off the edges on third down!

  24. shinedown37 says: May 10, 2013 9:15 PM

    If he wants to go to the superbowl join the Patriots there going this year, not the Ravens.

  25. beckzhere says: May 10, 2013 10:58 PM

    @ Uptown Murf,

    You sir are welcome to tailgate with me in The Gulch any day!!

  26. canadianbucsfan says: May 11, 2013 10:40 AM

    Great on 3rd and 8, not so good on 1st and 10.

  27. pizzon says: May 12, 2013 7:24 AM

    at this point in the guys career he should be concerned with trying to get a ring with a good organization, as long as he has played in the league if its still about money to him then maybe he needs to take a class in how to manage money.

  28. jgaffney1982 says: May 15, 2013 1:27 AM

    I can’t believe that I read a comment in which Abe was called overrated… You could see a difference in our defense when he was on the field. I am not saying that the Falcons were wrong for releasing him, but I do think that he is an awesome asset when he is healthy. However, I think that he is much more effective when his play time is limited… I wish him the best, and I wouldn’t be disappointed if he is back on our roster come June…

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