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Smokers will help pay for funding gap in Vikings stadium

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As it turns out, folks who puff on Marlboros will help pay for the next place where Ragnar will be blowing his horn.

With electronic pulltab and bingo games, the original funding mechanism for the state’s portion of the new Vikings stadium, falling far short of projections, Minnesota needs a new way to come up with the money.

Enter the smokers.

Via Jim Ragsdale of the Minneapolis Star Tribune, Governor Mark Dayton has proposed increasing the state cigarette tax from $1.23 per pack to a whopping $2.83 per pack to help bridge the gap.  Dayton also proposed the closure of a corporate “tax avoidance loophole,” which would generate $20 million per year.

The cigarette tax would cure the short-term gap in revenue, with the corporate tax vehicle providing an ongoing safety net, in the event the electronic games continue to fall short of the necessary revenue goals.

So, basically, smoke ‘em if you got ‘em.  And then go buy more to smoke.

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  1. tokyosandblaster says: May 17, 2013 3:25 PM

    It’s awfully nice of Minnesota to build the Packers a vacation home.

  2. reesesteel23 says: May 17, 2013 3:26 PM

    Packers need more than a new home. A defense would be nice.

  3. IBleedBlueBitchez says: May 17, 2013 3:28 PM

    Minnesota is a horrible place.

  4. sickoe47 says: May 17, 2013 3:29 PM

    Thats a great plan!now smokers will have a little motivation to quit.

  5. tokyosandblaster says: May 17, 2013 3:29 PM

    reesesteel23 says:
    May 17, 2013 3:26 PM
    Packers need more than a new home. A defense would be nice.

    —-

    Well, they had the 11th best in the NFL last year, well ahead of the poor Vikings. But they could be better.

  6. mlmike25 says: May 17, 2013 3:31 PM

    BTW, AD thanks the Packers for allowing him to nearly break Dickerson’s record almost exclusively against them.

  7. evilglazers666 says: May 17, 2013 3:31 PM

    Or the owner of the team can pay for a stadium?

  8. citizenstrange says: May 17, 2013 3:31 PM

    What people miss is that it doesn’t matter where the money comes from. They could put a tax on left-handed albino two door cab drivers and even if it raised 10 trillion dollars it doesn’t matter where it came FROM.

    It matters where it is going to. And it would be 10 trillion dollars of taxpayer money going to a billionaire. Plain and simple.

  9. jwcarlson says: May 17, 2013 3:32 PM

    Just like everywhere else this is done… people will find their smokes cheaper elsewhere for the most part. $1.60 jump per pack will make people buy in bulk when they are out of the state or at an Indian Reservation.

    Dumb.
    And I’m not a smoker.

  10. ad296 says: May 17, 2013 3:32 PM

    tokyosandblaster says:May 17, 2013 3:25 PM

    It’s awfully nice of Minnesota to build the Packers a vacation home.

    ——————————————————-

    I get it..

    The Packers defense takes a vacation cause they are scared of Peterson running all over them.

  11. chrishavelsux says: May 17, 2013 3:33 PM

    Wisconsin should increase the beer tax for Lambeau Field renovations. They’d easily make enough money to tear down that dump and build a real stadium.

  12. ilovefoolsball says: May 17, 2013 3:34 PM

    Are they going to allow smoking in the stadium?

    Oh wait, the Vikings will get smoked enough in that stadium.

  13. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: May 17, 2013 3:35 PM

    Ironically, there will be no smoking allowed in the stadium.

  14. smacklayer says: May 17, 2013 3:36 PM

    Keep in mind, corporate taxes are just indirect taxes on the public. For every dollar that a coporation must pay the government in taxes, that corporation will pass that expense on to it’s customers. Corporate tax is a nice buzzword that politicians like to throw around, especially liberal ones. But just remember anytime you hear the word corporate tax, just know that means higher prices for you.

  15. filthymcnasty1 says: May 17, 2013 3:36 PM

    Never before has there been so much poverty and suffering. The entire state is one giant slum.

  16. klutch14u says: May 17, 2013 3:39 PM

    Yeah, and they really want people to quit smoking.

    I’m not a smoker but queue those that don’t care because they don’t smoke. Divide and conquer….

  17. painsyndicate says: May 17, 2013 3:40 PM

    Close a corporate tax loophole and lose hundreds of businesses from your state. Well done Dayton. The Vikings will be the San Antonio Stallions in three years.

  18. expertop says: May 17, 2013 3:40 PM

    How was your Minneapolis vacation last year, tokyo? It was a pleasure having you.

    See you soon, A.D.

  19. adantsa says: May 17, 2013 3:43 PM

    More like thanks to the Packer fans who come over to watch the games at the new stadium for crushing heaters like we all know you love to do.

  20. eatitfanboy says: May 17, 2013 3:43 PM

    Poor people are three times more likely to smoke than rich people (can’t post links here, but believe me, it’s true). They also are much more likely to gamble over their heads on things like pull tabs and bingo.

    So it isn’t much of a stretch to say that this stadium is being built on the backs of the Minnesota poor.

    Have a nice day.

  21. joeflaccosunibrow says: May 17, 2013 3:45 PM

    I love how politicians think. They think that they will generate X number of dollars if they raise a tax. What they fail to realize is that there will be a good portion of people to actually quit smoking. Others will go to another state to buy cigarettes and drive back. Silly politicians.

    Save this headline for future publication
    “Minnesota Tax Projections Off Mark”

  22. Slim Charles says: May 17, 2013 3:45 PM

    Scumbags. Smokers get the shaft because the legislature was too cowardly to ask a billionaire to pay for his own stadium.

  23. tokyosandblaster says: May 17, 2013 3:47 PM

    expertop says:
    May 17, 2013 3:40 PM
    How was your Minneapolis vacation last year, tokyo? It was a pleasure having you.

    See you soon, A.D.

    Adrian Peterson comes on this site?!?! Man, I’d think you’d be off shooting up the HGH to try and equal last year’s performance.

    Although, everyone knows you won’t.

    How was your playoff game against Green Bay?

    See you soon,

    Better than you.

  24. therealraiderduck says: May 17, 2013 3:47 PM

    The great thing about cigarette taxes: they’re 100% voluntary. Nobody pays cigarette taxes unless they want to.

  25. seaeagle707 says: May 17, 2013 3:50 PM

    The smokers can pay for it, just don’t try to indulge your vice in it. Love how the politicians are always telling smokers to quit, and then use their weakness against them. Oh well, at least it isn’t the Maryland Rain Tax.

  26. reemer894 says: May 17, 2013 3:50 PM

    tokyosandblaster says:
    May 17, 2013 3:25 PM
    It’s awfully nice of Minnesota to build the Packers a vacation home.

    ______________________________

    You Packer fans probably only go to Lambeau because it’s the only place in the area with indoor plumbing.

  27. deltaoracle says: May 17, 2013 3:50 PM

    Skoal!
    (Free roof naming rights suggestion.)

  28. upperdecker19 says: May 17, 2013 3:52 PM

    “Smokers will help pay for funding gap in Vikings stadium”

    Heck, we could fund a stadium in 20 minutes.

    Regards,
    Europe

  29. vikes8480 says: May 17, 2013 3:52 PM

    The Packers don’t need to have the State of Wisconsin raise taxes in order to fund any improvements to their stadium. They just create more fake stock and sell it so their fans can feel like they own something other than a criminal record, a broken down pickup truck and a trailer house.

    Would be nice if the other 31 teams could raise revenue in that manner but the NFL won’t allow it.

  30. timegambit says: May 17, 2013 3:57 PM

    Yeah, I don’t doubt for a second that packer fans consider Minnesota paradise with all the newfangled gadgets we have over here like the internet or hot showers or maybe the magical cordless telephones we use. I guess anything beats writing messages on sheep and sending them down the road.

    I made a fortune selling tickets to them for my cageless roller coaster ride in which I would just push them off a bridge. Alot of repeat business for that ride.

  31. briman141 says: May 17, 2013 4:00 PM

    So damned glad they can close the loopholes for a GD football team yet not for the good of the freaking country. Lets you know where the true priorities lie.

  32. duluthvikesfan says: May 17, 2013 4:01 PM

    Keep the electronic pull tabs, ad a Vikings license plate, a Vikings lottery scratch off game, a tax on Vikings tickets and Vikings merchandise. This way, the only people paying for the stadium are those who support the team. I have no doubt these funding sources would raise enough and only those who want the team will have to pay for the stadium.

  33. scoops1 says: May 17, 2013 4:01 PM

    Terri from those Anti-Smoking commercials looks like the Vikings’s new mascot

  34. vikesfanforlife says: May 17, 2013 4:04 PM

    and for the record, this a way better way to fund a stadium than the method that the Packers use. you idiots actually buy useless, fake stock with no value to improve THEIR stadium. that is a shining indictment of the average IQ of the Packer fan base. idiots stand in line to fork over $250 for a junk piece of paper. insanity. and you fools buy it!

  35. grumpyoleman says: May 17, 2013 4:06 PM

    I get so annoyed with the “Keep in mind, corporate taxes are just indirect taxes on the public. ” people. They act like they have all of a sudden become an economics professor and are spreading some before now unknown knowledge unto the people. The truth be told is that should companies decide to pass on the tax to the consumers, we still always have the choice to buy their product or not. A direct tax on us we have no choice. Stepping off my platform now, have a good day, Go Wings.

  36. audioflint says: May 17, 2013 4:09 PM

    As a non-smoker this seems like discrimination. However, it could also save some lives….and/or increase the crime rate. Nevertheless, go Lions!

  37. golfongrass311 says: May 17, 2013 4:10 PM

    In this day and age, you really are better off killing someone, than even thinking about trying to light up a cig. We pay roughly 6.50-7.50 in MD, and in DC it is like 8something. But a short drive to VA and it is 4.00 a pack. But I also learned recently that it take 20feet for the air to dissipate the second hand smoke. I been smoking since 2004, the Ravens just kicked the smokers out, the signs are there my fellow smokers. It really is time to quit…… but I am just going to buy one more pack today….

  38. filthymcnasty1 says: May 17, 2013 4:12 PM

    Funding a stadium is difficult when so many Viking fans are struggling to make their trailer payments.

  39. FinFan68 says: May 17, 2013 4:13 PM

    Ah, the single tax on smokers again. That is a hefty tax. Non-smokers applaud such things but where does it stop? They are already taxing candy and soda because fat people need to pay. What if they put a $2 tax on all those bottles of water sold throughout the state/country? Still think it’s a good idea? It’s all good until they exorbitantly tax something you use (gas will get worse)

  40. golfongrass311 says: May 17, 2013 4:14 PM

    and after looking at the picture i could really go for a deathstick any one else ?

  41. tokyosandblaster says: May 17, 2013 4:16 PM

    Look, perhaps we got off to a bad start.

    I’m willing to let bygones be bygones.

    I’m sorry, as my immaturity has been running rampant.

    It’s beneath my station to make fun of those not as good as me.

  42. mustbechris says: May 17, 2013 4:18 PM

    That picture is gross.

  43. adoombray says: May 17, 2013 4:18 PM

    the problem with Smokers taxes is it doesnt “encourage people to quit” like non-smokers think it does, it just encourages people to get them from cheaper places or to move on to e-cigs. you can’t count on smokers taxes because you can order cigs from overseas on the cheap, go to native american reservations to buy them, or buy e-cigs.

    So, what non-smokers should realize is that it won’t generate as much money as you think it will, so the money will have to come from elsewhere, it will actually hurt local businesses because people will stop buying all the other stuff you buy with smokes (the 6 pack, the sandwich, whatever) and it’s not the slam dunk revenue generator that it was 20 years ago before the golden goose got cooked.

  44. urcrap says: May 17, 2013 4:21 PM

    To all Viking haters who hate. Hate you a holes back!

  45. footballnut2011 says: May 17, 2013 4:22 PM

    Filthy= Unemployed beer drinkin’ hick that loves to talk about past glory days.
    Tokyo= Stick to ping pong or gymnastics or other jap sports. It’s very clear to us all that you don’t know anything about football.

  46. oldlineman says: May 17, 2013 4:23 PM

    Why not a user tax on goods and services on the surrounding hotels, restaurants and bars. near the stadium downtown. Who profit greatly from the state building it.

  47. tjstyles says: May 17, 2013 4:23 PM

    Good idea, duluthvikesfan, only make fans of the Vikings pay for the stadium. Then, they can take the income tax of the players, and use it for tax credits for the season ticket holders. That way, the people who support the team, and paid for the stadium can have some benefit for the extra tax money that having high-paid athletes brings.

    Oh, and all of the tax that gets generated from the overpriced concessions can be funneled right back to the people supporting the team.

    And, lastly, the stadium can charge all of the high schools fees to play there and pass that money back to the fans who paid for the stadium.

    Over time, the stadium pays for itself through revenue generated from ticket and concession sales, and tax on incomes for the players and staff that the team employs, and all of the business that games in the stadium drives to the surrounding establishments. Oh, and the fact that the school system and other public organizations make use of the stadium, so the state needs one anyway (might as well let an NFL owner pay for a third of it, right?).

  48. JSpicoli says: May 17, 2013 4:29 PM

    I’m sick of all the smoker bashing overall, and as if they aren’t paying enough, somehow society sees fit to lump another caustic fine on smokers.

    How about a fat tax? If smoking is such a burden on our health care etc., and you can charge more for smokers to be insured, how about charging for obese people, or crappy drivers?

    Why can no one smoke within 20 feet of a door, but leafblowers run amuck spraying crap in the air for anyone to second hand? How about the fumes from paint?

    The soccer mom society needs to get back in their minivan and go. Hypocritcial micro-puny headed thinking from the left.

  49. beefturkey says: May 17, 2013 4:39 PM

    It used to be that smoking was an expensive hobby that in the short-term would make you stink and in the long-term would kill you. In Minnesota, it’s an expensive hobby that in the short-term will build a stadium and in the long-term will, well, kill you. But not before the Vikings win the Super Bowl. Or not.

  50. theytukrjobs says: May 17, 2013 4:42 PM

    The irony is that it has been proven statistically that smokers draw less money from “the system” than non-smokers over the course of their lifetimes. Smoking is legal.

    While smokers do have higher per-year medical costs, they also live about 10 to 11 years shorter lives on average. On average, they die before retirement, meaning that even when they do have medical expenses, they are more likely to use their own cash and medical insurance, which they work for, than to draw medicare/medicaid.

    On top of that, they pay a ton of taxes on their habit. It is totally immoral financial discrimination put onto people that have an addictive habit. It is right up there with state run lotteries and casinos in terms of immoral government policy.

    You are “allowed” to smoke, drink, and gamble as long as the government can take your money in the process. Wonderful message to send our kids!

  51. footballnut2011 says: May 17, 2013 4:42 PM

    Good point. No more rights. Just last week, my brother got a hundred dollar ticket for smoking on the beach in cali…WTF ?

  52. reesesteel23 says: May 17, 2013 4:42 PM

    Our goal is to hold Adrian Peterson under 200 yards

    -Packers

  53. jagsfanugh says: May 17, 2013 4:46 PM

    Now if everyone would just quit. That would show them. I wonder what they would double the tax on if that happened..gasoline would be a good start. Stick it to everyone. Higher fuel, higher groceries and so on.

  54. gnarlswoodson says: May 17, 2013 4:46 PM

    The only thing in Minnesota getting smoked more than cigarettes is the Vikings.

  55. nananatman says: May 17, 2013 4:47 PM

    But you can’t smoke there and Cancer hasn’t been cured. So why don’t non smokers pay for their own stadium?

  56. rcali says: May 17, 2013 4:48 PM

    And here is the kicker, I’m guessing there will be no smoking allowed anywhere near the new stadium! Everyone needs to go up to someone who is smoking today and thank them for all the tax money they have donated to various causes.

  57. GM says: May 17, 2013 4:49 PM

    1. Target groups that affiliate with Packers fans in any way and tax the snot out of them.
    2. Tax all items with the words Packers or Greenbay on them.
    3. Tax anything with the colors green and yellow.

    I realize 1,2, and 3 won’t generate much money so to really rack it up:

    4. MN dept of Revenue taxes itself on the total tax revenue it brings in.

  58. sssgolf says: May 17, 2013 4:53 PM

    that would makle sense as Minnesota is so dumb they elect a fake wrestler as a gov. The smokers will never know they are paying more. If they have extra money they could build a awards case, no never mind that would not be used.

  59. wipackman1265 says: May 17, 2013 4:54 PM

    Good. …..make them pay out of the crusty lungs that they hock big cancerous luggies out of…. Just so the rich own doesn’t have to pay

  60. filthymcnasty1 says: May 17, 2013 4:56 PM

    Is anyone really surprised that the hapless, tasteless Viking fans can’t afford a decent stadium?

    Other things Viking fans can’t afford:

    1) Deodorant
    2) Toothpaste
    3) DNA testing to find out who their Daddy is.
    4) Etc.

  61. bordner says: May 17, 2013 5:01 PM

    They should have a fat blonde chicks tax – Minnesota is full of ‘em.

  62. iluvbears says: May 17, 2013 5:01 PM

    What will government entities do when they have raised the tax too high on cigs & everyone does quit because they cannot afford them any longer? Where will all their money come from then? I suppose that is when they will start going after higher alcohol taxes or finally do the smart thing & legalize weed so they can tax that.

  63. cosmoman11 says: May 17, 2013 5:02 PM

    Will the increase in the cigarette tax be subject to approval by the people? Should be!! If so, it is not a sure thing.

  64. wipackman1265 says: May 17, 2013 5:08 PM

    Beef turkey….they won’t ever win one…we all know that !!

  65. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: May 17, 2013 5:09 PM

    vikesfanforlife says:May 17, 2013 4:04 PM

    and for the record, this a way better way to fund a stadium than the method that the Packers use. you idiots actually buy useless, fake stock with no value to improve THEIR stadium. that is a shining indictment of the average IQ of the Packer fan base. idiots stand in line to fork over $250 for a junk piece of paper. insanity. and you fools buy it!
    ______

    You have to be kidding. I would much rather have a bunch of rubes voluntarily fork over money to pay for a stadium they want than to raise taxes on smokers who may not care about the stadium and are already taxed to within an inch of their lives.

  66. randomcommenter says: May 17, 2013 5:12 PM

    Why do liberals always assume that when you raise taxes, people will just gladly pay it and revenues go up? The opposite is reality. It’s proven that when rates go lower, revenue collected actually increases.

    It’s real simple. When a store is looking to increase profits do they double their prices or do they have a sale? You have a sale and end up making more money because you have more customers.

    Liberals get distracted by the optics of things. They care about the % somebody pays, not the actual $ amount. Which is more important in reality? That why you have saps who actually think warren buffett’s secretary pays less tax than him. By % she may but in reality he pays millions more than her.

  67. squared80 says: May 17, 2013 5:18 PM

    IBleedBlueBitchez says:
    May 17, 2013 3:28 PM
    Minnesota is a horrible place.

    ——————–

    Yeah, it’s only in the top 5 in the nation for education, healthcare, air and water quality, quality of life, fitness, etc. What a horrible place.

  68. wipackman1265 says: May 17, 2013 5:20 PM

    If your ignorant enough to smoke…..PAY UP !!! You could pay the stadium off in one week if you just took all the Viking player drunk driving fine money and applied it to the balance…

  69. filthymcnasty1 says: May 17, 2013 5:23 PM

    Last time I was in MN, I noticed a panhandler with a sign that said “Will Get Fatter For Food”.

  70. parttimer1 says: May 17, 2013 5:24 PM

    Hay Mike! Expect a call from Philip Moris Legal Division! Be watching for your retraction! Now go ahead and deleat this opposing view like you always do! Lousy atty. and worst columnist!

  71. iwantmyownrealityshow says: May 17, 2013 5:25 PM

    Things filthy doesn’t have, but needs;
    1. a clue
    2. out of his mom’s basement
    3. a job
    4. a woman (or man??)
    5. indoor plumbing
    6. a shower, not the pond out back

  72. dallascowboysdishingthereal says: May 17, 2013 5:26 PM

    Don’t be surprised if smokers choose to purchase cigs from surrounding states and even internet causing this plan to raise revenue to fail.

  73. vikes8480 says: May 17, 2013 5:26 PM

    I don’t think Filthy realizes that Green Bay is in Wisconsin. Far more trailer homes and hillbillies there than in Minnesota. Nice try buddy. Next time use the deodorant under your arms instead of using it on your tooth (singular). You’re dad might step forward and claim you.

  74. iwantmyownrealityshow says: May 17, 2013 5:27 PM

    MN should put a toll on I94 for all the people living in Hudson working in the Twin Cities

  75. macpsgt says: May 17, 2013 5:30 PM

    So, it’s kind of like the “Corporate” Gas Tax I saw take hold this week. Well, it would have been nice to know that by simply driving to work I was paying for the new stadium that I can’t afford to visit, in which I won’t be able to afford tickets to watch a team that can’t afford to sign it’s players, because everyone that paid for the stadium, is broke.

    Make the players pay for it, they are the one’s who play there.

  76. macpsgt says: May 17, 2013 5:32 PM

    Block E Casino- Make it happen. The state is too broke not to try something different. And legalize sports-betting inside, while you’re at it.

  77. frankdatank23 says: May 17, 2013 5:32 PM

    Imagine the marijuana taxes we’ll see in due time. Ridiculous, but still cheaper than black market costs.

  78. onbucky96 says: May 17, 2013 5:36 PM

    So are they “blowing smoke” when talking about the Super Bowl? Not with Christian Steele at QB.

  79. jayniner says: May 17, 2013 5:36 PM

    Go ahead and raise the Corporate Tax….and watch the mass exodus of businesses from the city/state just like what is happening in California…..

    Way to raise the unemployment rate in Minnesota liberals and Democrats!

  80. tokyosandblaster says: May 17, 2013 5:41 PM

    Spicoli is right.

    A fat tax in Minnesota for just one year would fund 8 stadiums. One for each home loss.

    Also, the silly little ones thinking the packers care whether or not Adrian Peterson runs for a lot against them don’t realize that Peterson is 4-9 against the Packers.

    That’s not very good.

  81. filthymcnasty1 says: May 17, 2013 5:43 PM

    In a random survey on the quality bridge repairs in MN, 7% didn’t respond.

  82. mazblast says: May 17, 2013 5:49 PM

    Vikings and Packers fans trading tired old barbs at each other. How boring.

    Here’s a question–How high is the cigarette tax in Wisconsin? If it’s lower, does anyone see the irony in Vikings fans going there to buy their smokes?

  83. whatjusthapped says: May 17, 2013 6:02 PM

    The back story to this is that the pull tab strategy was suppose to pay for this but much like most democratic government plans, it didn’t do so well. After missing those revenue targets by over 50%, they had to come up with something new. The Packers offered to a Lombardi trophy exhibit and charge all the Viking fans $5 to see the 4 trophies but that was nixed because they didn’t want to create unrealistic expectations, the Viking fans are already filled with those.

  84. couple1314 says: May 17, 2013 6:08 PM

    As a Vikings fan I would like to thank all the Packer fans who live in Minnesota and smoke. Your contribution to our state of the art stadium, that will keep the Vikings around for at least the next forty years, is greatly appreciated.

  85. Robert says: May 17, 2013 6:09 PM

    Finally, Lambeau West will be built.

  86. thatswhatimsayin says: May 17, 2013 6:13 PM

    Wait! what!? Electronic pull tabs won’t raise enough revenue to pay for the stadium? No Way!
    I did not see that one coming.

  87. packerhater says: May 17, 2013 6:15 PM

    Thanks Dayton. Pick on those who use tobacco but not those who eat crap all day long . Why not tax soda , junk food , fast food etc etc. Being obese is costing taxpayers a lot more then those who use tobacco. If those pose say $1 tax on tobacco then those who use tobacco should steal a $1 worth of goods to make up for the tax.

  88. shaggytoodle says: May 17, 2013 6:21 PM

    Pay more per pack to build a stadium to watch the Vikings get smoked.

  89. edenprairieballer says: May 17, 2013 6:32 PM

    If I remember correctly cigarette tax is high to offset the costs associated with smoking NOT to fund a stadium. I wanted the new stadium as much as the next guy but Dayton is going crazy raising all these taxes.

  90. outlawshark says: May 17, 2013 6:57 PM

    How about legalizing pot and taxing the crap out of it? Everybody wins.

  91. immafubared says: May 17, 2013 7:22 PM

    Its smoke and mirrors. In order to get the stadium bill even voted on they came up with a scheme that they would sell electronic pull tabs in VFW’s, Legions, etc and fund part of the stadium the state didn’t want to pay for.
    They found out after a year that people hate the ‘electronic’ version of pull tabs and avoided them like the plague, thus no money coming in so this is the newest idea.

    Now it they could just find someone who still smokes.
    Smoking isn’t allowed in bars, restuarants and most hotels plus they’ve raised taxes on them for 20 years and no one can afford to smoke so I wonder how that idea is going to work.

  92. packer66 says: May 17, 2013 7:23 PM

    wait did couple 1314 say they was something called a viking fan WOW.. I thought that was like big foot just a rumor

  93. immafubared says: May 17, 2013 7:23 PM

    If Dayton just taxed all the loud mouth democrats, and union workers he could build 10 stadiums.

  94. spedman24 says: May 17, 2013 7:24 PM

    The city should NEVER help these billionaires build these stadiums. So my tax money goes towards it, then I have to pay all kinds of money/PSLs, to use it??? Kind of nuts if you ask me. When money goes towards a park you get to go use it—this is ridiculous

  95. inyofaceagain says: May 17, 2013 7:32 PM

    edenprairieballer says:
    May 17, 2013 6:32 PM
    If I remember correctly cigarette tax is high to offset the costs associated with smoking NOT to fund a stadium. I wanted the new stadium as much as the next guy but Dayton is going crazy raising all these taxes.

    ————

    No way! Some “baller” from Eden Prarie thinks he is getting taxed too much? How predictable.
    Take a trip into the real world (the city) and get out of your little gated community that u hide in, then maybe someone will respect your opinion.

  96. immafubared says: May 17, 2013 7:35 PM

    Ihear you can get cigs real cheap in Indiana. Not to far to drive for a trunk load of cheap cigs and no taxes.

  97. filthymcnasty1 says: May 17, 2013 7:49 PM

    97% of Vikings fans surveyed would move out of their trailers and into my moms basement if they had the chance.

  98. ivanckstrong says: May 17, 2013 8:07 PM

    “Jspicoli”, couldn’t have said it better. This is pure discrimination. That stadium better have a smoking section.

  99. adenaguy says: May 17, 2013 8:07 PM

    If you think taxing cigarettes is a great idea, wait till they start this same tax on milk. Coffee. Cereal. All a matter of time folks. Everything in it’s time becomes politically incorrect and therefore taxable.

  100. filthymcnasty1 says: May 17, 2013 8:19 PM

    Last time I was at the Metrodump for a game, there was a degenerate Viking fan panhandling out front with a sign that read “Will Get Fatter For Food”.

  101. mediasloppy says: May 17, 2013 8:28 PM

    This is too funny. Just shows how brain washed people are. How can people complain about a billionaire getting tax money while complaining how closing loopholes for fortune 500 companies in MN is just evil.

    I suppose off shore tax havens are good too.

    On the plus side. Maybe my brother will quit smoking. Smoking costs the tax payers a lot more money than a $2 tax hike for them. So does Alcohol.

  102. shaggytoodle says: May 17, 2013 8:37 PM

    If I recall correctly Wisconsin raised their taxes a half percent to help pay for renovating Lambeau in the 90s.

    It’s still around, so get use to the new taxes Vikings fans.

  103. TheWizard says: May 17, 2013 8:42 PM

    should companies decide to pass on the tax to the consumers, we still always have the choice to buy their product or not

    If living off the grid is your thing, maybe.

    No thanks.

  104. gt40bear says: May 17, 2013 8:51 PM

    Since studies show lower income people smoke more, isn’t It a bit two-faced for a democrat to want to double a tax on them? Enjoy your stadium built on the backs of he poor! ;-)

  105. inyofaceagain says: May 17, 2013 8:56 PM

    filthymcnasty1 says: May 17, 2013 7:49 PM

    97% of Vikings fans surveyed would move out of their trailers and into my moms basement if they had the chance.

    —————–

    u and tokyobuttblaster comment on Vikings posts more than Vikings fans. Guess yall r extra concerned about the Vikings this year. Its cool, no matter how many lame comments u make u cant stop Adrian and the Vikes from bringing u down

  106. carlsbadboltfan says: May 17, 2013 9:02 PM

    smacklayer says: May 17, 2013 3:36 PM

    Keep in mind, corporate taxes are just indirect taxes on the public. For every dollar that a coporation must pay the government in taxes, that corporation will pass that expense on to it’s customers. Corporate tax is a nice buzzword that politicians like to throw around, especially liberal ones. But just remember anytime you hear the word corporate tax, just know that means higher prices for you.
    ——————————————————————————-

    Tell that to Exxon or GE…oh wait…they don’t pay taxes.

  107. jollyjoker2 says: May 17, 2013 9:10 PM

    I will be next door from mn in either north or south dakota buying cigars and cigs. Freezer keeps them just fine or I have to grow a little of what I need out back. There is a breaking point and quitting will not be an option as I really don’t give a flyn f about the government trolls. In fact, non-smokers use 25 percent more healthcare in real terms. No press will ever report the truth.

  108. 28for20 says: May 17, 2013 9:19 PM

    So, Packer fans, keep running your mouths, you just paid 250.00 bucks for a worthless piece of paper! You guys are so smart!

  109. johnnytarr says: May 17, 2013 9:39 PM

    Tax tobacco & alcohol again. Why don’t they tax caffeine???

  110. grandsonofcoach says: May 17, 2013 9:55 PM

    Every time the state needs money they raise cigarette taxes, saying the increased price on smokes will cause people to quit. Which is the ultimate hypocrisy because if people actually quit smoking the state wouldn’t have the tax revenue to build the stadium. The higher tax would be better spent on smoking cessation programs. Instead they are no better than big tobacco that feed off addiction for profit.

  111. purpblooded says: May 17, 2013 9:59 PM

    filthymcnasty1 says:
    May 17, 2013 3:36 PM
    Never before has there been so much poverty and suffering. The entire state is one giant slum.
    ———————————————

    You can’t generalize like that, filth……..Northern Wisconsin is pretty nice!

  112. poesports says: May 17, 2013 10:03 PM

    Stupid moron liberal idea as usual. “Let’s raise taxes in cigs to get money”. No dummy. Raising taxes on cigs and people will buy from another state or cut back on smoking since it’s b/c more expensive or quit entirely b/c it’s too expensive. NOW. Cut taxes on cigs and what’s gonna happen? People will now buy instate and not travel. People will not cut back b/c it’s cheaper and people will not quit (at least for monetary reasons) b/c they are now much more affordable. The Gov. of my state is the lovely and honorable Martin O’Malley in MD. .. another lib who raises cig taxes and then wonders why the money coming in isn’t as much as it should be.

  113. mel1sharples says: May 17, 2013 10:08 PM

    tokyosandblaster says: May 17, 2013 4:16 PM

    Look, perhaps we got off to a bad start.

    I’m willing to let bygones be bygones.

    I’m sorry, as my immaturity has been running rampant.

    It’s beneath my station to make fun of those not as good as me.

    ——————
    This was actually pretty funny – but then again we are not 13 and this is not WWE website..Sandblaster

    Living in Minnetonka where the average income per person is about the same as everyone in Wisconsin. I love to tease my cig smoker – cheese eatin’ sheep stealing WI friends as they will help pay for the Vikings stadium as well as pay $250 for a piece of stock (card stock that is). They get pissed and blame Obama.

  114. GenXJay says: May 17, 2013 10:09 PM

    The laughing-Stocks idea in Green Bay is not paying dividends. HeadCheese brass are so hard up for cash to pay ShAaron and that blonde chick on defense; that, their fans are unknowingly being embarrassed & victimized to primetime reality t.v.
    I like this idea in the Land of 10k H2O.
    A healthier lifestyle if you quit smoking. Or, you can choose to contribute a kicka$$ stadium while flicking butts across the Mississippi into that huge ashtray.

  115. whatjusthapped says: May 17, 2013 10:22 PM

    They should just tax KY Jelly. That way the Viking fan base would be paying for their own stadium.

  116. expertop says: May 17, 2013 10:40 PM

    Cute – look how many filthymcnasty and tokyosandblaster comments there are!

  117. phathead7 says: May 17, 2013 10:44 PM

    way to prey on peoples addiction,why dont they tax cheeseburgers and soft drinks too.who wants to sit next to a fat sweaty guy ?

  118. taintedsaints2009 says: May 17, 2013 10:51 PM

    BOONDOGGLE!!!!

    You’ve been duped, minny! And most of you paying for this will never be able to afford to go to the games. For those of you who go, if you Think those $8.00 beers are expensive at the dome, Wait until that extravagent playground opens.

    Next time 3M, Target, General Mills, or whatever big time billion dollar company needs a new building, all they have to do is threaten to move to LA, and you will pay for it.

    Way to go, you morons. You reflect the stupidity of the American voter. You elect democrats to tax the rich, and then subsidize the rich…through some misplaced sense of town pride. And don’t realize it. Uh oh. I think this post has just flagged me to be audited by the IRS. Don’t question government! Obama knows all. Obama knows all…

  119. couple1314 says: May 17, 2013 10:54 PM

    packer66, you need a lesson in grammar and punctuation. I suppose the lack of grammar and punctuation should be expected from a Packer fan. Good luck in life with your Wisconsin education, McDonalds needs folks like you.

  120. blancodiablo says: May 17, 2013 10:58 PM

    Anyone that smokes now does so knowing it will kill them. You made the dumb decision to take up the habit, now pay for it. Dont like it? Quit.

    The government regulates everything for safety. Toys, cars, food, etc. But a product that is addicting and leads to early death? Thats ok.

    The govt makes too much money from people who smoke. Drug companies make too much money trying to cure rotten lungs. Thanks smokers! Now go stand 20 ft away from the door while you fund a stadium.

  121. We need Bud Grant says: May 17, 2013 11:04 PM

    I realize I’m kind of late to the party, but maybe Zygi should help pay for his purple palace, instead of piling on the back of smokers. Just a thought. By the way, if that money had not been diverted to the stadium, it would have gone for healthcare and education.

  122. Clark Kent says: May 17, 2013 11:05 PM

    They’re all smoking something. Remember when they elected that wrestler with the feather boa?

  123. hedleykow says: May 17, 2013 11:13 PM

    For those who haven’t figured it out yet, the religious fundamentalist are in full control of you. You think they are a joke … but the joke is on you.

  124. source7769 says: May 17, 2013 11:13 PM

    still probably cheaper than the 8 dollar per pack price tag in nj …10 in ny

  125. hedleykow says: May 17, 2013 11:25 PM

    @immafubared

    Your comma placement is inappropriate for a sports blog comment. How did you decide on that, anyway?

  126. joeyashwi says: May 18, 2013 12:13 AM

    Bash liberals but vote for Michele Bachmann? Lol. I really don’t think either side has a leg to stand on.

  127. bigjim50010 says: May 18, 2013 12:53 AM

    vikes8480 says:
    May 17, 2013 3:52 PM
    The Packers don’t need to have the State of Wisconsin raise taxes in order to fund any improvements to their stadium. They just create more fake stock and sell it so their fans can feel like they own something other than a criminal record, a broken down pickup truck and a trailer house.

    Would be nice if the other 31 teams could raise revenue in that manner but the NFL won’t allow it.

    Lol …. yes and outside of woodbury and edina… MN is mistaken for Oklahoma… there are more rednecks, booger eating morons, and people afraid of the repo man with a 5th wheel than any other state.
    50 years of greatness still means 0-4
    Sorry to have slighted your village of Landfall MN and when I say village I mean trailer park behind a harley dealership

  128. jibberator says: May 18, 2013 1:11 AM

    Poor smokers. I wonder if they ever consider growing their own tobacco. Its a lot cheaper and “healthier”

  129. zapzap12 says: May 18, 2013 2:33 AM

    Wow! People still argue over football…This stadium is about business and us stupid make other people rich.A stadium doesnt win championships…see Cowboys..this is all about money wake up redneck mn and wi residents….

  130. orakpocalypse says: May 18, 2013 4:15 AM

    Jesse Ventura would definitely not approve of this. What happened to you Minnesota?

  131. illwillthemick says: May 18, 2013 7:41 AM

    cigs are disgusting. smoke weed, it non taxable (except where its legal)

  132. seaeagle707 says: May 18, 2013 1:39 PM

    If there is a Native American reservation in or near Minnesota, I’d bet the residents are starting to have dreams of new Audi’s, indoor swimming pools, and season boxes at Vikings games.

  133. boobschannel says: May 18, 2013 3:44 PM

    i smoke. i moved away from minnesota years ago. no idea what they go for there anymore. but the thing that bothers me about this is that they are forcing smokers to cover the gap in funding, at a place that won’t allow them to smoke? dayton can kiss my black ass.

  134. bobnelsonjr says: May 18, 2013 5:27 PM

    The vikings always blow smoke and hot air.

    This is why the annual “new daydream” stadium cartoon drawing and location keeps changing – because there is is no funding.

    You cannot have a real stadium plan without a real budget. You cannot have a real budget unless there is a REAL funding source with REAL dollars.

    Why spend the money to tear down a perfectly good arena to build one with less seating capacity?

    The vikings can’t even sell 50,000 season tickets so how will an expensive smaller arena help when the vikings have already lowered their blackout threshold percentages?

    Why build it in Minnesota, where 40% of NFL fans are Packers fans?

    The best solution is to move the team to an area that can actually afford NFL caliber football like Mexico City, Guadalajara, San Antonio, or Los Angeles.

  135. vltrophy14 says: May 18, 2013 5:29 PM

    IF & that’s a big IF the smokers in MN are smart when they come to Green Bay to see their Vikes get neat they’ll buy a couple hundred dollars in cigs. IMO these billionaires need to pay the full amount of THEIR stadium. They don’t help us w/our bills or give us a discount on tix.

  136. wannabgod says: May 18, 2013 5:43 PM

    In a surprising eleventh hour move Mn. State Governor Mark Dayton announced that the states registered Democrats would now be put on the hook to pay for the Vikings new stadium.”It came to me in a dream”,Dayton was quoted as saying “I finally saw how wrong our party has been,Singling out groups of people and forcing them to pay for the special interests of others’.This behavior amounts to nothing more than Socialism at its worst.”In a further move he announced that he was considering a 10 year income tax amnesty for all of the states registered Republicans.”What our party has done to these people has been wrong,and I will see to it that full reparations are made”.

  137. tokyosandblaster says: May 18, 2013 10:05 PM

    I just wanted to say that I honestly laugh at you Vikings fans all the time.

    Thanks for endlessly supplying material just by existing.

  138. michaeljmcfadden says: May 20, 2013 4:09 AM

    “With electronic pulltab and bingo games, the original funding mechanism for the state’s portion of the new Vikings stadium, falling far short of projections, Minnesota needs a new way to come up with the money. Enter the smokers.”

    Actually, it was “EXIT the smokers.” Take a quick look at the graph on page 19 of

    tinyurl.com/SmokingBanLies

    and you’ll see how Minnesota’s “cost-free” smoking bans have cost the state over a hundred million dollars a year in “Charitable Gambling Revenue” from pull-tabs and bingo.

    The Antismokers lied about the cost of the bans so now they’re trying to use the effect to hit smokers once again — with a tax. Check that link and think what else they’ve lied about. Feel free to offer any specific, substantive criticisms if you like: I promise I won’t mind and I’ll try to stop back to respond.

    - MJM

  139. pak1forgb says: May 23, 2013 7:02 PM

    Someone please remind me which group of people chose to elect Al Franken and Jesse Ventura? Yeah Wisconsin is just full of rubes. This story and the fact that we as Americans just roll over for this type of garbage from our government is a tragedy in itself. They single out a minority group because they know all non-smokers feel superior to the addicted and have successfully soaked them for billions in revenue without a peep, so why not pile on the poor bastards like a crack dealer to a junkie. What have we become? And the difference between this and fake stock is choice. Of course judging by the blackout rate in Minnesota if given the choice to pay or not they wouldn’t be able to build a parking lot.

    Jealousy is a stinky cologne

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