Vick bristles at critics, says he’s learned how to secure the ball

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With all the criticism Mike Vick has absorbed during his NFL career, you’d think he’d be used to it by now.

He apparently isn’t.

Earlier this week, Vick got a little testy during an interview with Mike Missanelli of 97.5 The Fanatic in Philadelphia on the topic of those who say he doesn’t read defenses quickly enough, and that he holds onto the ball for too long.

“I’m really tempted right now to just say no comment to that because like I said a second ago, you don’t last 12 years in the NFL not being able to read the defense,” Vick said, via Sheil Kapadia of PhillyMag.com.  “Those people who are talking and saying that are just ignorant, and they know nothing about football.  Unless they turn on the film and watch my game and see what goes on, then they’ll replace those comments with the right comments.”

Missanelli pointed out that critics who know football have made those claims.  “But it’s incorrect,” Vick said.  “Without getting sensitive about it, it’s incorrect.  So I’d rather not talk about it.”

We’d hate to hear what Vick would say if he were sensitive about it.  (Actually, we’d probably love to hear it.)

Vick attributes the perception of holding the ball too long to the West Coast offense the Eagles ran under Andy Reid.  “We had a lot of deeper throws last year, which required more time,” Vick said.  “It’s just a big difference.”

New coach Chip Kelly’s system will result in quicker throws; if Vick can make them, he’ll likely be the starter.  Kelly also has taught Vick something unrelated to throwing the ball — how to run with it, without fumbling.

“The other day, I broke out in the pocket, and the first thing Chip told me was to tuck the football,” Vick said.  “So I showed him how I was running with it, and he looked at it and he knocked the ball right out of my hands.  And he was like, ‘Hold it like this.’  And what he told me felt comfortable.  I had a tighter grip on the football. That should secure that problem as long as I work on it.”

It remains to be seen whether Vick will undergo a Tiki-style transformation when it comes to ball security.  But if he can get rid of the ball when he needs to and keep possession of it when he has to, Vick could have a big year in 2013.

63 responses to “Vick bristles at critics, says he’s learned how to secure the ball

  1. You last in the NFL not reading defenses quickly by running around in circles, sometimes making a play out of it.
    When you’ve lost a step, the inability to understand what you’re seeing on the field becomes a little more obvious.
    That’s why it’s been talked about do much recently.

  2. Delusional people with a misguided high opinion of themselves are quite funny to listen to and Vick is definitely one of those people. This clown expects us to believe that nobody lasts 12 years without being able to competently read a complex and shifting defensive scheme, but…that same guy can last those 12 years without ever having the sense to recognize he has a ball security problem and change how he holds the football when running. Sure.

  3. you don’t last 12 years in the NFL not being able to read the defense,” Vick said
    Prison time counts as playing in the NFL?
    We watched him over and over in Atlanta do the same thing he has done in Philly. He holds on to the ball too long, scrambles around holding it like a loaf of bread, and just before he is tackled, he throws it to a linebacker.
    I got a football signed by this jerk. He was arrogant and disinterested. He is the same old a hole he always was.

  4. I have to laugh.
    Every year in OTA’s and training camp, Mick Vick talks about how much he’s learned from the previous season and and over the years.
    And yet every year he trots out on the field and makes the same mistakes over and over.

    He’s dumb as dirt and is guaranteed to get hurt!
    simple as that…LOL

  5. Note that Vick has not been a top-tier quarterback in his 12 years less his years in jail career in the NFL. He lasts solely because he has such skill. There have been other quarterbacks in NFL history that have been given shot after shot in the NFL by teams attracted by the skill set, but they have likewise been unable or unwilling to read defenses. (Jeff George comes to mind.) Vick’s not the first, and sadly, he won’t be the last.

  6. Can you really teach this old dog new tricks? (no reference to the dog fighting) Vick has carried the ball like that since he was a rookie.

    I watched Vick in training camp with the Falcons years ago, and he never tucked the ball away but it didn’t seem to matter because hey couldn’t catch him.

    Now they are.

  7. Why don’t you get off Vick’s dick! The guys a great ballplayer, better than you deserve. You give him a cohesive offensive line and then we’ll talk. MEAN PEOPLE SUCK!

  8. Yo Mike, you can’t count the years you were in jail as years of service in the NFL. How does this loser still have a job?

  9. Mike, you’d better cancel your brother Marcus’ cell phone plan before he tweets his take on the situation and makes your life even more uncomfortable.

  10. Oh Michael, you silly fool. You have one great asset, you’re fast. Being fast doesn’t change the fact that you make poor decisions (on and off the field), can’t read a defense to save your life and are as fragile as a china doll. And I’m starting to conclude that you have the same mental toughness as my nine year old. But of course, I’m just a hater and you’re going to prove all of us haters wrong this season.

  11. 12 years in the league and Chip Kelly shows him one thing and Vick thinks his fumbling issues are going to be magically fixed?!?! HaHaHa! That is the best joke I have heard this whole off season!

    I guarantee Chip doesn’t know some magical new way to hold the ball that Vick hasn’t been shown by 100 other coaches and players or seen watching game film in the last 12 years!
    It’s called football fundamentals and he has been taught those since he was playing in the peewee leagues. Vick just doesn’t care enough to learn them!

  12. We have a lot of HOF worthy armchair qb’s in the world.. I’m a football fan and it disgust me when ppl who for 1 never played the game and 2 will never have 5 percent of Vick’s talent or even Ryan Leaf’s talent rip a player for his play. Can some of you read a NFL defense and I’m not talking about playing it on Madden. I never criticize a players ability b/c its obvious he had or has the talent to play in the league. I sure in the hell didn’t, so why criticize?

  13. Vick is dangerous. When picking sides, a healthy Vick makes you think about it twice.

  14. Coach killer, dog killer, liar, piece of human filth. Should never have been let back in the league.

  15. Actually, 12 years is six times longer than Mr Perfect (Tebow) lasted in the NFL.

    Take a big bite out of that steak, haters.

  16. So, after being in the NFL for 12 years – your new Coach came up to you and showed you how to PROPERLY hold the football?
    Amazing what we can learn in ONLY 12 years!

    Read a defense? NOPE. Watch him play – his “reading” a defense is “that guy looks open” – he has no anticipation and never throws a guy open by throwing the ball before the receiver makes his break – and that is why he gets sacked as well.

    Obviously…I don’t think he’s a great QB – but – he is still better than some starters which doesn’t say a lot for them.

  17. All this Venom on here for my boy Mike hahahahha half you bitches probably couldn’t even make your Pee Wee FOOTBALL teams BENCH. hahahaha. Those of you quick to call Vick STUPID I wonder how many of y’all ever signed Back to Back 100 million dollar contract…hmmmm…. Stupid… hahhahhaha Keep hate Alive hahhaaha.

    Still those hiding behind the guise of the poor dogs that Mike paid back, with two years of his life in a cell… millions lost in Income… The Law MADE an Example of Mike Vick. I get it will never be good enough for some of you… funny thing most of you’ll got more respect for the RAPISTS…. and Murderers still playing in the league. because y’all love your pets SOOO MUCH… that a human life is less important than your animals. I wonder how you reconcile that with your god and call yourself human…hahahahha It ain’t that serious hahaha.

    Obviously some of the greatest football minds on the planet thought enough of Vicks skill set to continue to work with Vick and whether y’all choose to acknowledge it … the last two years were the worst Coaching job of my Favorite Eagle Coach Big Red… M.M play-calling in light of the SIEVE at the OLine calling those Deep Outs, the Beating Vick took… ain’t a QB in this league tougher than Vick… Big Ben the rapist might be as tough but he is 6’06” 270 LBS
    I rate rape and murder higher on my list of DON’TS than what Vick. ” Keep Hate Alive ” hahhahahaha.

  18. It’s all moot. Foles will start.

    If didn’t possess a total lack of originality, I’d include a dog joke. I bet nobody has thought of that yet.

  19. People are basically questioning Vick’s intelligence by questioning his ability to read defenses, it sounds like he took the high road.

  20. Heck you guys all are ignoring the fact that besides his “12 years in the NFL”. He should have learned how to hold a ball while running in pee wee football! Not to mention college. Chip should smack him in the ribs and teach him how to not break one every other game. He is a first class moron. Injured by week 5 guaranteed.

  21. Having followed Chip Kelly for years Vick’s skill set is a perfect fit. Mike has gun, mobility, and a ultra quick release. However if he turns the ball over or is mentally unable to run the offense which rely’s on understanding sign language, getting the ball out of his hand in 2.2 seconds, and plays off in under 15 seconds he won’t be starting for Chip.

  22. That’s great that you can tuck and run, how about the multitude of fumbles while in the pocket?

    I think he is may be slightly below average in reading a defense once the ball is snapped and he has a few seconds. The bigger issue I see is that he cannot seem to make pre-snap-reads/ figure out where the blitz is going to come from.

  23. 12 seasons in the NFL is all it took for the most overrated QB in NFL history to learn how to tuck a football?

    This loyal Eagles fan is tuning out if the new regime is stupid enough to start Ron Mexico..

  24. Why can’t he simply be tired of all the negative comments? He knows he isn’t the best QB, but at least he is working on it. It’s when the QB thinks nothing is wrong and he has nothing to improve that bothers me.

    At least Vick is always trying to learn and improve.

  25. Vick has successfully read the defense and protected the ball for one season in his NFL career, most of which consisted of injury shortened seasons. I’d expect more of the same as he tries to learn a complex offensive system at his age.

  26. Am I the only one who thinks 1trinieagle is Mike Vick or Lesean McCoy?
    That kind of mental gymnastics is rare. A refined stupidity of a very rare sort.

  27. Its sad people get more worked up over killing dogs than killing people. Donte Stallworth killed a man driving drunk and got 30 days. Seriously!

  28. To all the non-haters, especially strinieagle, he kills dogs for sport, he ain’t a man. Every time he’s interviewed you see how stupid he is, he even looks stupid. Oh yeah, to refresh your little minds, HIS TROPHY CASE IS EMPTY, because he’s a loser!!!!

  29. Aside from stupidly including his 18 month prison term in his twelve year career in the NFL, Vick makes several statements that are just plain stupid, wrong or both… In no particular order:

    First, he attempts to throw the man who gave him a second chance. Andy Reid – under the bus. There apparently are no checkdowns in the offense that produced one of the best pass catching running backs the league has seen – Brian Westbrook.

    Second, the idea that Chip Kelly was the first coach to ever tell you that you were holding the football incorrectly has to be BS and even if it is not ANY film study that you supposedly do would show you that you’re not securing the ball properly. Your fumbles were obviously a problem – it took Chip knocking the ball out your hand to recognize this?

    Third, that argument is tired and the sign of an athlete that does not work hard enough… Entitled and spoiled by his physical skills… Everyone else’s fault but your own, how dare you criticize his play, turn on the film… The film is unwatchable, poor decisions, locking onto a receiver, slow progressions… I have been a fan and student of the game for longer than 12 years and that does not include any absences. I was not blessed with your physical skills, but I know the difference between a QB that is playing orrectly within an offense and one who is playing recess football.. You are the latter.

    And even if that is not true, fourth, a leader says “I need to work on that, I need to get the ball out quicker and the new system emphasizes that.” You don’t act like a child. You don’t throw your coach, your offensive line and receivers under the bus.

    Fifth, and this goes out to those that would classify me as a HATAZZZ1!!!! I do not care that he went to prion once upon a time. His play makes him a bad quarterback, not his personal life…

  30. Mike Vick is and always has been 95 percent ego. My favorite college team is va tech and my favorite pro team is the eagles, and even i am sick of his attitude. Yeah buddy, your critics are wrong and everyone’s after you for no reason.

  31. If you hold on to the ball for longer then 3 seconds that’s enough time for a NFL DE to get by an OT and pressure the QB, usually. Is it a coincidence that the two shortest QB’s in the league that are both under 6 feet tall (yes Michael Vick is not 6 feet tall) had the two longest average times for holding onto the ball? Unfortunately Vick doesn’t hold up to Russell Wilson in the football IQ department and can’t overcome the ht disadvantage as easily.

    When Vick was first given the chance to start with the Eagles you could tell on the field that he was putting in extra time studying game film and the playbook. As soon as he became comfortable as the sure number 1 QB on the team you can almost pinpoint the exact time when he started slouching off with the extra work. It didn’t help that teams began to game plan against him more. Combine that with the slouching off and he never did over come the slot man blitzing. And he’s still at that level today. It was kind of funny watching a rookie come in and get rid of the ball quicker in the same offense (hmm, explain that one Mike) and show a more developed football mind in his first year for goodness sake.

  32. Such an easy argument to settle:

    From Pro-Football Reference

    NFL Career Fumble Leaders

    No. 23 – Michael Vick 87 fumbles 2001-2012

    (Highest active player)

    Right between Franco Harris and Walter Payton

  33. So much anger at Michael Vick.

    Why is his potential success such a threat? Meaning don’t Eagle fans want him to read defenses better and hold on to the ball?

    A radio interview has nothing to do with what happens on the field in the fall, but good grief. He’s a proven commodity at QB.

  34. Ask this to a non NFL fan who has no knowledge of these separate stories…

    Which of these NFL employees spent years in prison for their actions, and which spent no time in jail but received 1 year suspensions from the League?

    (A) Donte Stallworth murdered a man with his car while driving under the influence of alcohol.

    (B) Michael Vick knew someone who killed a dog, and was involved in the fighting of dogs.

    (C) Coach Sean Payton for lying to the NFL about the existence of a pay for performance program on his team.

  35. He has small hands which is one problem. The other is that he does indeed hold the ball like a loaf of bread, waving it around all over the place when he’s scrambling around. He’d have more fumbles if he were slower afoot.

    To the person who is laughing because some of us think what he did off the field is disgusting: yes hurting humans is worse. Leonard Little (google what he did) should never have been allowed back into the NFL because he murdered part of a family driving drunk. Stallworth’s case is different because both he and the victim had culpability in the accident, and Stallworth tried from minute one to do the right thing while Vick lied to the commissioner. But Little is not in the NFL now and animal torturers often go on to hurt people because they are sociopaths. And hurting defenseless creatures for sport is evil whether human or animal. Got it?

  36. I can’t help but laugh at the ignorant fools that try to defend Mike Vick. He was a flash in the pan, is no longer a starting caliber QB, and to be honest, he really never was. One good year and a few highlights is all he was, and ever will be.

    Not only that, I live in his hometown, and it’s well known that he’s not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

    I’ll add that another Pit Bull has been found drowned to death at the Menchville Marina in Newport News the other day. Found with a weight around it’s neck and evidence of dog fighting. I would loe to see Vick return to his hometown and speak against animal abuse like he does everywhere else. The guy doesn’t give squat back to the community he came from.

  37. (B) Michael Vick knew someone who killed a dog, and was involved in the fighting of dogs.
    Once again we have someone defending Mike Vick who doesn’t have a clue what they are talking about. Mike Vick didn’t “know someone that killed a dog”, Mike Vick systematically & repeatedly for a period of 6 years multiple times a week was not only involved to his eyeballs in the dog fighting but also with his own hands took the defeated animals & inflicted as much torture & pain as they lay crying in pain as he could muster. By his own admission took the hurt dogs & slammed them over & over into the ground, attached electrodes to them & threw them into pools of water & shocked them over & over, he would take the injured animals & hold them under the water & drown them. He did this for kicks, for entrainment, for his own personal ghoulish side show. HE INTENTIONALLY tortured these animals because he enjoyed it. Once caught, he intentionally lied to everyone involved. He became backed into a corner due to the overwhelming evidence against him & his pathetic lies. He then pled to running an organized gambling ring & never did one day for the animal torture he practiced on a regular/daily basis!

    Donte hit a guy that was just as drunk as he was, maybe more drunk. The guy Donte hit stepped right in front of him. There is a video of the accident available on the net since there were traffic cameras at that intersection. Donte stopped immediately, he called the police. He waited on site for the police. He has apologize3d to the victim’s family & it was the victim’s family that admitted that the victim had an alcohol problem & asked for leniency for Donte. Stallworth manned up from minute one. Michael lied to everyone he could over & over.

    Donte didn’t INTEND to hurt anyone that night & if you watch the traffic video, anyone would have hit that guy. He stepped right into traffic.
    Vick enjoyed torturing the animals, he got off on it. He bought the property in VA just to run the dog fighting operation & to inflict pain & torture on defenseless creatures.

    Do the Vick defenders get it yet?? There is no comparison between Donte & Vick except they both played ball. The situations & intent couldn’t be any more opposite. Donte is a man that made a mistake. Vick is always a victim…that did what he did intentionally for sick fun, repeatedly. That isn’t a mistake…

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