Mt. Rushmore gets painted Silver and Black

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The Mt. Rushmore nomination process descends into the Black Hole.

Yes, Raiders fans, it’s time to nominate candidates for the four-person Oakland/L.A/Oakland Mt. Rushmore.

Post your favorites below, and then at some point next month you’ll get to vote on  the final four from a list that may include Al Davis, John Madden, Ken Stabler, Marcus Allen, Fred Biletnikoff, Gene Upshaw, Art Shell, Ray Guy, George Blanda, Todd Christensen, Jack Tatum, Lester Hayes, Mike Haynes, Ted Hendricks, Howie Long, Willie Brown, Tim Brown, Tom Flores, Jim Otto, and/or some combination thereof.

Good luck.  You’ll need it.

174 responses to “Mt. Rushmore gets painted Silver and Black

  1. 1. JaMarcus Russell
    2. Rolondo McClain
    3. Dezmond Bryant
    4. Al Davis

    And I’m a Raider fan!!

    In Reg I trust!

  2. How about Al Davis right next to Marcus Allen. Then they’ll literally be forced to talk it out.

  3. Every Raider fan (I am one of them) knows that the greatest Raider ever is Bo Jackson.

  4. Al Davis – self explanatory

    Willie Brown & Jim Otto – Both Hall of Famers and legendary Raiders. In addition, both spent decades past their playing careers as parts of the Raiders organization in some capacity.

    Cliff Branch – The personification of Al Davis’ offense, the vertical passing game.

    There’s no way to have a consensus top four, but I think there are some pretty good reasons to consider these guys. David, Brown, Otto, Branch.

  5. Al Davis
    Jim Otto
    Gene Upshaw
    Marcus Allen

    Those should be the final 4.

    Honorable mention: John Madden, Timmy Brown, Kenny Stabler, Willie Brown

  6. Al Davis
    Jim Otto
    Ken Stabler
    Ted Hendricks

    HM
    Art Shell
    Gene Upshaw
    Steve Wisniewski
    Dave Dalby
    Marcus Allen
    Mark Van Eeghen
    Clem Daniels
    Fred Biletnikoff
    Cliff Branch
    Tim Brown
    Todd Chistensen
    Dave Casper
    Howie Long
    Ben Davidson
    Otis Sistrunk
    Greg Townshend
    Phil Villapiano
    Rod Martin
    Willie Brown
    Lester Hayes
    Jack Tatum
    George Atkinson
    Terry McDaniel
    Mike Haynes
    Jim Plunkett
    Daryle Lamonica
    George Blanda
    John Madden
    Ray Guy
    George “Run Run” Jones

    The Nation needs 9 Mount Rushmores

    Mount Rushmore of Raider Quarterbacks:
    Ken Stabler
    Jim Plunkett
    Daryle Lamonica
    George Blanda
    HM – Rich Gannon

    Mount Rushmore of Raider Running Backs:
    Marcus Allen
    Mark Van Eeghen
    Clem Daniels
    Marv Hubbard
    HM – Clarence Davis
    HM – Bo Jackson
    HM – Pete Banaszak

    Mount Rushmore of Raider Receivers/Tight Ends:
    Fred Biletnikoff
    Cliff Branch
    Tim Brown
    Todd Chistensen
    HM – Dave Casper
    HM – Raymond Chester

    Mount Rushmore of Raider Offensive Linemen:
    Jim Otto
    Art Shell
    Gene Upshaw
    Steve Wisniewski
    HM – Dave Dalby
    HM – Don Mosebar
    HM – Henry Lawrence

    Mount Rushmore of Raider Defensive Linemen:
    Howie Long
    Ben Davidson
    Otis Sistrunk
    Greg Townshend
    HM – Chester McGlockton
    HM – John Matuszak

    Mount Rushmore of Raider Linebackers:
    Ted Hendricks
    Phil Villapiano
    Rod Martin
    Dan Conners
    HM – Matt Millen
    HM – Greg Biekert

    Mount Rushmore of Raider Secondary:
    Willie Brown
    Lester Hayes
    Jack Tatum
    George Atkinson
    HM – Terry McDaniel
    HM – Mike Haynes

    Mount Rushmore of Raider Special Teams:
    Ray Guy
    George Blanda
    Sebastian Janikowski
    Shane Lechler

    Mount Rushmore of Raider Leadership:
    Al Davis
    John Madden
    Tom Flores
    George “Run Run” Jones

  7. #1 Al Davis
    #2 John Madden
    #3 Jim Otto
    #4 Jack Tatum

    HM

    Gene Upshaw
    Art Shell
    Fred Biletnikoff
    Howie Long
    Kenny Stabler
    Tim Brown
    Amy Trask

  8. It has to include Al Davis and John Madden…after that, it’s a crap shoot. There are too many great players from the Raiders to choose only two.

    Then of course, there is always the only QB to win two SuperBowls and not be in the HOF…even Florio doesn’t mention his name: Jim Plunkett.

    Can the Raiders please have an eight-headed Mt. Rushmore?

  9. 31 year old Raider fan.

    I’ll go with Al Davis (lock), Jim Plunkett (SB MVP and won 2 SB) Willie Brown (all-time great corner) and Marcus Allen (SB MVP, feud with Al was costly to all parties)

  10. Only 4…
    #1 Al Davis, without Al there would be no Raiders or Raiders mystique, he built the franchise.

    #2 Jim Otto

    #3 Art Shell

    #4 Wille Brown

    #5 Gene Upshaw

    #6 Ken Stabler

    #7 Fred Biletnikoff

    #8 Jack Tatum

    #9 Marcus Allen

    #10 Cliff Branch

  11. Al Davis
    Ken Stabler
    Lester Hayes
    Ted Hendricks

    Al will always first and foremost be the Raiders Mt Rushmore.

  12. The raiders should be represented by the ones who represented the shield not only on the field but off it as well, those who made it their lives to bleed silver & black and goes as follows:

    1)Mr AL DAVIS- with out his contributions to the game of football the game would NOT be what it is today.

    2)JOHN MADDENED-he is a true a/mbassador to the game of football.

    3)GENE UPSHAW- the 1st NFLPA president and long time union boss.

    4)FRED BILETINKOFF-the reason stick’em is forever banded from the NFL.

    each of these raider greats had a hand in the evolution of the game each one of us loves today!!

  13. And no good your not a raiders fan if you don’t like al Davis he’s the reason the afl joined the nfl it doesn’t matter who your team is anyone who’s a fan a football should be a fan of Mr.al davis

  14. Dr. Dre
    Eazy E
    Ice Cube
    MC Ren

    Did more to promote the Raiders brand than anybody else in the 90s.

  15. John Madden, Howie Long, Ray Guy, George Blanda, Tim Brown, Bo Jackson, Clem Daniels, Art Powell, Dan Connors, Dan Birdwell, we need a MOUNTAIN RANGE over here in Oakland, not a puny mountain like the rest of the NFL!!!!!!

  16. I’m not even a Raiders fan , and it’s incredible to me the way Kenny Stabler is overlooked and underrated ; in my view , he was one of the best clutch/ two minute QB’s in NFL history.

  17. John Madden
    Ken Stabler
    Marcus Allen
    Howie Long

    Honorable Mentions:

    Fred Biletnikoff, Art Shell, George Blanda.

  18. Jim Otto
    George Blanda
    Willie Brown
    Gene Upshaw
    Fred Biletnikoff
    Art Shell
    Mike Haynes
    Ted Hendricks
    Howie Long
    Dave Casper
    Marcus Allen
    John Madden
    Al Davis

    All Hall of Famers!!!!!

    PLUS…
    Bo Jackson
    Tom Flores
    Charles Woodson
    Cliff Branch
    Ray Guy
    Lester Hay

    I can keep going but i think I’ve made my point!!!

  19. 1. Al Davis
    2. Gene Upshaw
    3. Willie Brown
    4. John Madden

    Homarable mentions, Howie Long, Ted Hendricks, Art Shell, George Blanda, Tom Flores, Jack Tatum, Tim Brown, Marcus Allen, Bo Jackson, Dave Casper, Ken Stabler, Todd Christianson, Jim Plunkett, Steve Wisnewski and Ray Guy.

  20. Bo Jackson – Greatest tecmo bowl player ever

    Tim Brown – needs to stop talking about sb’s but was a warrior!

    John Madden – hes got a friggin franchise

    Al Davis – love or hate him he did what he wanted and went against the grain.

  21. As long as people give it some serious thought there isnt any wrong answer. But for me its…

    1 Al Davis: Made the RAIDERS what they are and NFL for that matter
    2 Tim Brown “Mr. Raider”: Played with NO great QBs like ALL the top WRs in NFL history
    3 Kenny “The Snake” Stabler: embodied the RAIDER way
    4 Art Shell: over Upshaw because he was coach of the RAIDERS 2x,

  22. #1. Al Davis
    #2. John Madden
    #3. Jim Otto
    Tied for #4.
    Stabler
    Upshaw
    Allen
    Shell
    Long
    Guy
    Brown
    Sistrunk
    Casper
    Banazeck
    Belitnikoff
    Tatum
    Hubbasrd
    Villipiano
    Blanda
    I could go on!

  23. Too many options here. Biletnikoff is my favorite all time, but he doesn’t have the impact several others did. The list is missing great names like Ron Wolf, Ben Davidson, Art Thoms, Dave Casper, Raymond Chester, Dave Dalby, Bo Jackson, Wisenewski, and many others. Multiple Rushmores indeed!

    Al Davis – he was the Raiders

    Art Shell – HOF lineman, first black head coach

    John Madden – HOF coach, trailblazer broadcaster

    Amy Trask – female exec and Princess Of Darkness

  24. Al Davis
    Fred Biletnikoff
    Gene Upshaw
    John Madden

    Honorable Mention
    Marcus Allen
    Ken Stabler
    Willie Brown
    Jim Otto
    Art Shell
    Howie Long

    Hey, can the Raiders loan some guys to the Jags Mt.?

  25. Al Davis should automatically be put onto Mt. Rushmore. No true Raider fan will debate that.

    Final three is tough. You have to also go with “True Raiders”. That means Timmy B is out (spent a year with the Bucs).

    Fred Biletnikoff was a super bowl MVP and has the college award for best wide receiver named after him. He is in.

    John Madden’s record speaks for itself. He also the first Raiders coach to take the team to the promise land. He’s in.

    That leaves Mr. Raider himself. Jim Otto.

    Al Davis
    Freddy B
    John Madden
    Jim Otto

  26. Left to Right: Al Davis, Jack Tatum, Willie Brown, John Madden. Honestly too many greats, those are just 2 of my favorite players of all times, matched with 2 of the greatest football minds of all-time.

  27. Stabler
    Plunkett
    Madden
    Al Davis

    Others deserving mention include: Otto, Marcus Allen, Tatum, Ray Guy, Al King, Bill King, Tom Flores, Shell, Upshaw, Blanda, Casper

  28. 38 year old Raider fan:

    Al: He is Mr. Raider and for all my recent complaints about him, he is first on the list, period end of story.

    Tim Brown: 15 years with the Raiders, 9 Pro-Bowls, 224 Games played with the Raiders, he’s in.

    Jim Otto: OO has to make it in, HOF’er, also a lifer.

    Willie Brown: Another Raider lifer and at this point it’s almost rolling the dice too many great players to narrow it down to 4.

    Missed the cut: To explain cutting Madden, his career was too short, only 1 SB, most of his popularity came with announcing and his video game. I still love him but you can only vote for.

  29. There’s far too many great Raiders for me to narrow my list to 4. I’ll give my must-include list followed by honorable mention.

    I do have to say that the must-include list consists mostly of those who were with the team during the greatest period (1963-1985) with a few from afterward. I was rather fussy in my picks so I’m sure that several on my honorable mention list would be must-includes for others.

    Must-Include:

    Al Davis (for his accomplishments pre-1986)
    Ron Wolf (for being Davis’ right-hand in the great era)
    John Madden
    Tom Flores (as HC only)
    Jim Otto
    Jack Tatum
    George Atkinson
    Art Shell (as player only)
    Gene Upshaw
    Willie Brown
    Ted Hendricks
    Phil Villapiano
    Lester Hayes
    Fred Biletnikoff
    Cliff Branch
    Snake Stabler
    Jim Plunkett
    Mark Van Eeghen
    Dave Casper
    Ray Guy
    Shane Lechler
    George Blanda
    Tim Brown (I can’t stand him, but he belongs)
    Steve Wizniewski

    Honorable Mention

    Marcus Allen (due to benching he only had 4 great years)
    Sebastian Janikowski
    Charles Woodson (greatest years were with Packers)
    Pete Banaszak
    Raymond Chester
    Art Powell
    Otis Sistrunk
    Mike Haynes
    Daryl Lamonica
    Rich Gannon
    Dave Dalby
    Howie Long (I liked him but I thought he was overrated)
    Greg Townsend
    Don Mosebar
    Todd Christiansen (same comment as with Howie)
    Bo Jackson (brilliant career cut short due to injury)
    Reggie Kinlaw
    Terry McDaniel

  30. RAIDERS who had the potential to be great
    1 Bo Jackson: Spectacular but career was cut short because of hip injury
    2 Napoleon Kaufman: Most electrifying RAIDER RB since Bo but retired to religion
    3 Rich Gannon: Journeyman QB who made his way to the RAIDERS late in his career, still earned MVP honors
    4 John Madden: Obvious great RAIDER coach, but could have cemented his face of ALL-TIME coaches if he coached more than 9 seasons

  31. Hewritt Dixon (the ORIGINAL spiker of the football)
    Clem Daniels
    Ben Davidson
    Dan Birdwell
    Tom Keating
    Bob Boomer Brown
    Art Shell
    and Clarence Davis for “the catch”

  32. I wouldn’t do Madden as a Raider simply because Tom Flores won 2 SB’s with the Raiders to Madden’s 1. I’d say Madden doesn’t need to go on the RAIDERS Rushmore, he is an NFL Rushmore figure.

    1) Al Davis
    2) Jim Plunkett
    3) Marcus Allen
    4) Willie Brown

  33. Ted Hendricks, Kenny Stabler, Gene Upshaw, Fred Biletnikoff. Note: Al Davis is the face of the Raiders, and while he is one of the greats, he was also the worst. I don’t know what to do with him.

  34. Guarantee only a small percentage of posters on this site have seen anyone play that belong on the Raiders Mt. Rushmore.

  35. 1) Al Davis. He built the Raiders. He ran it his way. He was the Raiders. This isn’t even in question.

    2) Art Shell. Arguably the best player in his position in NFL history, part of the Raiders’ era of dominance, and a symbol of what the Raiders were in terms of breaking down societal barriers by being named the first modern-day black coach in the NFL. His first turn as coach was also marked by success in bringing the Raiders back to the AFC Championship Game.

    3) Jack Tatum. The way he played the game epitomized what it meant to be a Raider in the glory years.

    4) Cliff Branch. Another great symbol of the Raiders, Branch also is one of few Raiders who have three Super Bowl rings. His ability to stretch the field even in the era in which he played, when receivers could be mauled the whole way down the field, enabled Hall of Famers Fred Biletnikoff and Dave Casper to shine even brighter than they otherwise would. He represents the kind of offense that made the Raiders famous and feared.

    Hon. mention: Lester Hayes. Is there any other player who is more Raider-like? Position switch? Check (from linebacker to cornerback!). Misfit? Check. Pushing the envelope on rules? Check (stickum). Great player? Check. (13 INTs in one season, plus four in the postseason). Also has 3 Super Bowl rings.

  36. Not a Raiders fan, but my two cents:
    – Al Davis
    – Young John Madden (as Curt Gowdy always called him)
    – Gene Upshaw
    – Art Shell

    Could also make strong arguments for those you would expect – Flores, Otto, Allen, Long, Plunkett, Stabler

  37. @ tbraiders: That was the most comprehensive list of Raider greats except for Chester McGlockton. That guy was HORRIBLE as a Raider.

  38. Cant have a Raider Mt Rushmore w/o Cliff Branch -he has all 3 Raider SB rings and personifies Al Davis’s offense, so Branch over Brown

    and Christensen was hardly over rated, being the second TE to ever lead the NFL in receptions for a season and the only one with back to back 90 reception seasons.

  39. I’ve been waiting for this one!

    Howie Long
    Ted Hendricks
    Fred Biletnikoff
    Jack Tatum

    Those are MY favorites. But this list will be
    very difficult to “get down” to 12 or whatever.

    How do you choose…

    Willie Brown or Lester Hayes
    Jim Otto, Gene Upshaw, or Art Shell
    Marcus Allen or Dave Casper
    Ken Stabler, Jim Plunkett, or Daryle Lamomica
    Tim Brown or Cliff Branch
    Ray Guy or George Blanda
    Ben Davidson or John Matuszak

    And as far as NFL influence. What about Al Davis,
    Tom Flores, Ron Wolf, and John Madden?

  40. Jim Otto
    Fred Biletnikoff
    Ben Davidson
    Daryl Lamonica
    Ray Guy
    Cliff Branch
    Phil Villapiano
    Jack Tatum
    John Madden
    Raymond Chester
    Pete Banaszak
    George Blanda
    Marv Hubbard
    Dan Connors

  41. JaMarcus Russell
    Rolando McClain
    Desmond Bryant
    Al Davis

    JUST WIN MAYBE!!!

    COMMITMENT TO EXCREMENT!

  42. How great would it be if everyone went out of their way to vote only for Ray Guy or at least have Ray be number 1 on the list?

    That way we could use the seemingly trivial Mount Rushmore voting to have Florio bring more attention to the real life travesty that no punter is in the Hall of Fame, let alone one that revolutionized the position.

    “He’s the first punter you could look at and say: ‘He won games'”- Joe Horrigan, NFL HoF Historian

  43. Love the Jim Plunkett and Bo Jackson inclusions. Really??? Jackson never had a 1,000 yard season and finished his career with only about 2,800 yards total. Certainly one of the all time “Might Have Been’s”, but not one of the all time greats. As to Jim Plunkett, a 15 year career where he averaged a whopping 1,725 yards a season. A .500 record as a QB. Much more likely to throw an INT than a TD. A 52% passer. Zero All Pro teams. Zero Pro Bowl teams. Not exactly the resume of an all time great. Hard to believe that there are those who lack the vision to find two guys better than this.

  44. Man I was always thought stickum was removed from the game due to
    Lester Hayes – not Fred Biletnikoff hence why it is called the Lester Hayes rule.

    Anyways.
    Al Davis
    Jim Plunkett -only 2 superbowl winner not in HoF
    Marcus Allen
    Art Shell

  45. 1) Al Davis
    2) John Madden
    3) Tim Brown
    4) Howie Long

    p.s. Raider Nation 4 life.

  46. This one is by far one of the toughest–and heck many of these have been tough as heck. I agree and I’m not even a Raiders fan–this is another team that needs its own Mountain Range. Reading through these comments, I see why people select they way they have.

    At first, I won’t lie, I was like Davis and Madden for sure–however, I think in the NFL Rushmore they would be there hands down for the contribution to the game period and Madden did only have 1 SB compared to Flores 2 and Davis did decline the last 8-10 years, but that doesn’t take away what he did for the game. But I will go a different direction here:

    Stabler
    Otto
    Shell
    Branch
    Upshaw
    Marcus Allen
    Fred Biletnikoff
    Willie Brown
    Lester Hayes
    Ray Guy
    Plunkett
    Flores
    Blanda
    Trask
    Tim Brown
    Tatum
    Howie Long
    Lamonica
    Casper

    HM: Bo Jackson (injury stopped this one from being a must), Wisniewski, Mosebar, Christensen, Townshend, McDaniel, Haynes, McGlockton, Hendricks, Millie, Biekert, Janikowski and Lechler.

    Quite the storied franchise. I picked my picks for Tampa’s Rushmore but honestly unlike some storied franchises (Raiders, Steelers, Dolphins, Packers, Bears, etc) they don’t have anywhere near as many. As a Buccaneers fan, maybe in another 30-50 years–God willing I get to live that long–maybe I will find myself having to name a ton of people for such an honor.

    And this is why I hope the Raiders, Bills, Dolphins and Browns get it all turned around sooner or later–the league I think will be better with them being competitive again and at the top–IMO.

  47. Kenny The Snake Stabler – No one in the league had the ability to bring his team down the field to win a game in the last moments as he did. One cool customer underpressure.

    Number two is one that a lot of people will overlook, That is Ray Guy, their punter. In his time no other punter could punt as high, as far and as accurate as Ray Guy. No one.

    And no one had opposing teams stealing his balls to check if they were pumped up with helium. And a big LOL to Bum Phillips who did it twice, after having to have Billy White Shoes Johnson line up at the edge of the tunnels for punt. Ray Guy deserves to be in the HOF.

    Third would be a trio of big competitors that I can’t narrow any further. Phil Vilipiano, Ted the Stork Hendricks, and Lyle Alzado. Three totally insane, truly crazy guys that made their opponents fear them for thing off the field as much as on. True Raider in every sense of the word.

    Lastly You cannot complete this list without having the Assassin as a selection. Jack Tatum spilled fear into the heart of every single WR that ever played against him. Was he always legal? I hope not! He was THE guy that set the tome for all the other crazy dudes on that roster. If you wanted to mess with him, well he would mess with you in return. And he’d take a step further a mess with your fear. He have you thinking he was gonna fallow you and your woman out of the parking lot after the game and take you down to his level in front of her. This all led up to an incredible reputation that raised his game to another level.

    And of course, honorable mention goes to a bunbh of other raiders that could easily make uo another two or more Mt. Rushmores…

    Fred Bilintnkoff – The Well Welker of his day
    Branch – The Randy Moss of his day
    Art Shell and Gene Upshaw – best left side combo EVER in football. EVER.
    Jim Otto – “Double O” – the steady influence that snapped the ball and call the line checks. Lester Hayes. His use of stikum spray cause the company stalk to rise 50% every football season. And he has the skill to back it all up with his play. Lastly, this list would be incomplete without mentioning Jim Plunkett. A bust before his arrival to Raiderland and a true winning pro before he left.

  48. Displayed with a black hole background:

    1. Al Davis
    2. Fred Biletnikoff (required position next to Davis to aggravate him)
    3. Jim Otto
    4. John Madden

    Notes:
    * I chose Freddie over the Snake in the Aggravator slot, because he coached for a ton of years.
    * In the Raider Heart position, Jim Otto (warrior) nudges out Jim Plunkett (Lazarus w/ 2 superbowls)
    * Raider Passion: Tough call of Madden over Gene Upshaw

  49. Al Davis,John Madden,Jim Otto, & Cliff Branch. Davis and Madden are locks,Otto is half locked,and you could substitute any Raider legend with Branch and make a case for them.

  50. Al
    Otto
    Flores (not Madden. TF won 2 SBs as HC and one as Asst.)
    No way to pick #4. Pull name out of hat.

  51. Lets look ath the real history of the raiders

    1. Every draft pick since 2000
    2. Every free agent move since 2000
    3. Todd Marinovich- The next lefty Elway
    4. The great Barret Robbins- jailed 5 years, no-show for super bowl
    5. Rolando McClain- see news
    6. J. Russsel- see news
    7. Desmond Bryant- see news
    8. Greg Skrepenak- jailed 2 years
    9. William Joseph fraud- taxes
    10. Kwame Harris beating his boyfriend
    11. Anthony Smith- Murder
    12. The Raider Nation who routinely gang beats opposing fans in stands.
    13. Al Davis’s teeth

    This team has the most tragic history in the NFL.

  52. Jim Plunkett (2 Super Bowls)
    Bo Jackson (phenom)
    Ted Hendricks (my dad’s favorite)
    Tom Flores (2 Super Bowls. They kinda count for something)

  53. wheres jim plunkett?

    the 1st 2 are givens. Davis, Madden. I would probably go with Tim Brown, he was the ultimate Raider. Allen would be next but he bitched too much at the end with Davis/Raiders. Probably Upshaw next.

  54. Al
    Shell
    Upshaw
    Otto

    also:
    1bigtex says:
    May 21, 2013 6:17 PM
    (removed Bo portion): As to Jim Plunkett, a 15 year career where he averaged a whopping 1,725 yards a season. A .500 record as a QB. Much more likely to throw an INT than a TD. A 52% passer. Zero All Pro teams. Zero Pro Bowl teams. Not exactly the resume of an all time great.

    ——> Joe Namath parlayed stats like that into the HOF along with glory 50yrs later. Oh, and you forgot the 2 SB wins.

  55. Al Davis, the legend
    John Madden, the Coach
    George Blanda, the kicker and old man
    Ray Guy, Mt Rushmore to put him in HOF

    Raider fan since days of Blanda coming in for Lamonica and leading team downfield and kicking the winning field goal

    Thanks for all the reminders of great Raiders everybody has listed

  56. (a young)Al Davis, John Madden, George Blanda, SEBASTIAN JANIKOWSKI! He’s the highest scoring raider in team history. no joke.

  57. if there were a dark-side rushmore: (a very old)Al Davis, Todd Marinovich, Jamarcus Russell, and a nice carving of Marcus Allen riding the bench off to the side. i won’t even get started on an injuries-rushmore. *cough*Mccallum*Cough*Bo

  58. “Good luck you need it” … That’s right because there are so many great Raiders.
    After Al Davis … Naming only 3 other raiders is impossible and not fair to all the great players that wore the black and silver over the years.

  59. It amazing me how many losers post on these Raider threads …. seriously every franchise in the league has a dark side but that’s the problem these morons.
    How many SBs does their teams have … that eliminate 90% of them and the other 10% are not as ignorant and have knowledge of the game.
    I know is a biotch when you can have one and the Raider Nation has 3 … Yup 3 of them …. LMFAO.

  60. jim otto
    art shell
    marcus allen
    gene upshaw

    hm:
    bo jackson
    long
    stabler
    hendricks
    w brown
    t brown
    belitnikoff
    plunkett
    lamonica
    hayes
    casper
    sistrunk
    r martin
    guy
    christensen

  61. I think we all agree that there are just too many Raiders to choose just four, so I put it this way:

    1. Al Davis, of course
    2. 76/77 Raiders
    3. 80/81 Raiders
    4. 83/84 Raiders

  62. Sorry, have to have three Mt. Rushmores to accommodate the Raiders: #1- Al Davis, John Madden, Fred Biletnikoff, Jim Otto; #2- Ken Stabler, Willie Brown, Gene Upshaw, Ray Guy; #3 (five-headed Mt. Rushmore)- Howie Long, Dave Casper, Ted Hendricks, Art Shell, Marcus Allen. Sorry Cliff Branch, Tim Brown and many others….

  63. George Blanda. Jim Plunkett. John Matuzak. Lyle Alzado.
    The Raiders were the home of the reclamation project and these guys were great examples.
    The Raiders have too many to narrow to four, so I picked a category (guys who came off of the trash heap to reap Raider rewards) and gave my best examples.

  64. Al Davis – No reason needed
    Art Shell – 1st African American Coach
    Tom Flores – 1st Hispanic Coach
    George Blanda – Kicker, QB, at 45? Really?

  65. The Raider Nation can’t use a monument like Mt. Rushmore. It would take the Vietnam Memorial Wall in DC to list the most important Raiders in history.

    That’s what people don’t get about the Raider Nation. Once you’re a Raider, you’re a Raider FOR LIFE! Why do you think Al had more HOF inductions speeches than anybody? Why do you think all of the old players stick around and coach?

    Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders till I die!

  66. based on the mystique…
    al davis
    jack tatum
    howie long
    lyle alzado

    based on coaching
    al davis (two spots)
    john madden
    tom flores

    based on players only
    stabler
    hendricks
    biletnikoff
    w.brown

    this is a near impossible task…
    not that many teams in the league that can really have a true mt.rushmore…haters gon’ hate but if you hate on the legend of the raiders, you really aren’t a fan of the game…just like i refuse to hate on the historical importance of the packers, chiefs, broncos, bears, etc…

  67. The Autumn Wind is a pirate,

    Blustering in from sea,

    With a rollocking song, he sweeps along,

    Swaggering boisterously.

    His face is weather beaten.

    He wears a hooded sash,

    With a silver hat about his head,

    And a bristling black mustache.

    He growls as he storms the country,

    A villain big and bold.

    And the trees all shake and quiver and quake,

    As he robs them of their gold.

    The Autumn Wind is a raider,

    Pillaging just for fun.

    He’ll knock you ’round and upside down,

    And laugh when he’s conquered and won.

  68. Al Davis, Jim Otto, Willie Brown and Art Shell.

    You could make a strong case for three … four … maybe even five completely different Raiders’ Mt Rushmores. What a history!

  69. P.S. PFT – Your comical Mt. Rushmore isn’t big enough for the Raiders which is why we coined the phrase “Raider Nation”.

    You can’t just name 4, to many great players and too much History for this iconic franchise!!!!!!!

    Delete that!

  70. Al Davis is obviously a slam-dunk pick.

    After that you could go so many directions with the other three.

    Madden or Flores?
    Madden’s teams were more successful year in and year out, he’s in the Hall, and one of the most famous figures in football for his announcing/video game legacy. Flores has Madden 2 to 1 in rings, played QB for the Raiders and has been the team’s radio guy for years. I’d probably lean Madden but it’s a tough call. Can’t go with 3 of 4 non-players so only one of these guys gets in at the max.

    Gene Upshaw vs. Art Shell vs. Jim Otto:
    Another very tough call among these o-line greats. Otto has longevity and has long been dubbed “Mr. Raider.” Shell was a HOF left tackle, one of the best ever, and later became the league’s first black head coach with the Raiders. But I’m going to go with Upshaw who was possibly the biggest leader on those 70s Raiders teams, a tremendous HOF player and later the president of the Players’ Union for many, many years.

    Howie Long vs. Tim Brown vs. Stabler vs. Plunkett vs. Blanda vs. Willie Brown vs. Biletnikoff vs. Tatum vs. Hendricks vs. Hayes vs. Haynes vs. Willie Brown:
    Not sure how you pick one out of this bunch. I’m tempted to go Stabler for QB representation but it shouldn’t all be 70s guys. That would exclude many of the others as well. Plunkett got two rings, but was not so great in other years to beat out these other guys, IMHO. It’s such a tough call but with wanting to get some different era guys in there it comes down to Long vs. Brown. Long is already in the Hall and got a ring. Brown should obviously already be in the Hall and got to three AFC Title games and a Super Bowl but never got a ring. However, I’m going to pick a mild upset and go with Timmy here. Guy was a mainstay and perennial Pro Bowler for a LONG time and spanned the late 80s through the early 2000s. He was a truly great and sadly underrated player (at least by the HOF Committee).

    So there’s mine:
    – AL DAVIS
    – JOHN MADDEN
    – GENE UPSHAW
    – TIM BROWN

  71. anicra says:
    May 21, 2013 6:23 PM
    Man I was always thought stickum was removed from the game due to
    Lester Hayes – not Fred Biletnikoff hence why it is called the Lester Hayes rule.

    Anyways.
    Al Davis
    Jim Plunkett -only 2 superbowl winner not in HoF
    Marcus Allen
    Art Shell
    ___________________________________

    Biletnikoff was the reason Lester Hayes used Stickum!

  72. Al Davis
    Ted Hendricks
    Fred Biletnikoff
    Gene Upshaw

    That was hard…Very Very Hard

  73. I missed this the other day. So many memories – very hard to choose. I’m 60 now, became a Raider fan in 1968, I think, the day I saw Gene Upshaw, in his rookie season, lead Charlie Smith in a sweep around left end. That was the year they lost to the Packers in the Super Bowl. A lot of great players and great teams over the glory years. A lot of reclamation projects and cast-offs found new life with Al’s renegades – Matuszak and Alzado, to name two. A lot of new ground broken and history made – Art Shell, Tom Flores, Amy Trask. Rule changes – holy roller, stickem, do I dare say the “tuck rule”? A lot of firsts – Bo Jackson playing two sports. How do you pick just four?

    But if I had to –

    1) Al Davis – he was the living epitome of the Oakland Raiders. The Raiders were his life and so were his players.

    2) John Madden – first SB win, and Hall of Famer.

    3) Gene Upshaw – HOF guard and NFLPA president.

    4) Art Shell – HOF tackle and first black coach in the NFL.

    Honorable mention – George Blanda, the old man and those miracle wins will never be forgotten.

  74. I can’t do top 4. The top 4 is for the sorry charger fans to deliberate. Us raider fans and non-raider fans can run off 25 players without even blinking.
    I’m doing Top 25

    1. Al Davis
    2. John Madden
    3. Gene Upshaw
    4. Art Shell
    5. Howie Long
    6. Jim Otto
    7. Willie Brown
    8. Fred Biletnikoff
    9. Tim Brown
    10. Jack Tatum
    11. George Atkinson
    12. Cliff Branch
    13. Marcus Allen
    14. Ken Stabler
    15. Bo Jackson (my favorite all time raider)
    16. Jim Plunkett
    17. Mike Haynes
    18. Lester Hayes
    19. Greg Townsend
    20. Phil Villapiano
    21. Tom Flores
    22. Steve Wisneiwski
    23. Todd Christensen
    24. Lyle Alzado
    25. John Matuszak

  75. Al Davis
    John Madden
    Tom Flores
    Ken Stabler (simply for who he was and what he represented as what a Raider is)

    – I hope to replace Stabler with Reggie Mack one day. I think it is best to keep the players off of this one since it is just too impossible to compare all the Raider greats. Raider Nation fan base is a nomination as well.

    1 Nation to rule them all…

  76. Mt. Rushmore
    1.Gene Upshaw
    2.Marcus Allen
    3.Howie Long
    4.Ken Stabler

    Anti-Mt. Rushmore
    1.Jamarcus Russell
    2.Todd Marinovich
    3.Lane Kiffen
    4.Mike Shanahan

  77. Unless you plan to put 10 or 11 faces up there someone who deserves to be up there will be left off. So many great Raiders over the years how do you pick only four?

    Raider Nation
    Pride and Poise
    Commitment to Excellence
    Just Win Baby

  78. 1. Al Davis
    2. John Madden
    3. Bo Jackson
    4. There are way too many to list just one more

  79. The Core Four:

    Al Davis
    John Madden
    Art Shell
    Jim Otto

    Deserving candidates:

    Leadership: Al David, John Madden, Tom Flores, Art Shell, Ron Wolf, Amy Trask

    QB: George Blanda, Daryle Larmonica, Ken Stabler, Rich Gannon, Cotton Davidson

    RB: Marcus Allen, Bo Jackson, Clem Daniels, Marv Hubbard, Hewritt Dixon, Mark Van Eeghen

    WR: Tim Brown, Fred Beletnikoff, Art Powell, Cliff Branch

    TE: Todd Christensen, Dave Casper, Raymond Chester

    T: Art Shell, Lincoln Kennedy, Harry Shuh

    G: Gene Upshaw, Steve Wisniewski, Wayne Hawkins

    C: Jim Otto, Don Mosebar

    DE: Howie Long, Ben Davidson, Greg Townsend

    DT: Chester McGlockton, John Matuszak

    LB: Ted Hendricks, Phil Villapiano, Rod Martin, Dan Conners, Matt Millen

    DB: Willie Brown, Lester Hayes, Mike Haynes, Terry McDaniel, Charles Woodson, Jack Tatum, Fred Williamson, Nnamdi Asomugha, Dave Grayson, George Atkinson, Vann McElroy

    ST: Ray Guy, Shane Lechler, Sebastian Janikowski, Jeff Jaeger

    With them too briefly to count:

    ***Bo Jackson***
    Eric Dickerson
    James Lofton
    Ron Mix
    Ronnie Lott
    Rod Woodson
    Bob Brown
    Warren Sapp

    Alas poor Bo, we hardly knew ye!

  80. Forgot to give props to Jerry Rice and Lyle Alzado for their Raider years.

    And how about Carl Weathers? From OK in the NFL to being a star in Hollywood; not too shabby!

  81. Al Davis
    John Madden
    Amy Trask
    The Black Hole

    There are too many great players to name only one. Al, John, and Amy changed the NFL forever. An argument can be made that todays NFL would not be what it is without Al Davis. John Madden will took football in the homes and hearts of millions of people. Amy Trask broke through the glass ceiling in the most impossible of places, and with great skill and class proved to be every bit as tough as any Raider ever.

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