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The Browns wrap up the Mt. Rushmore nomination process

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I didn’t plan it this way, but what the hell.

On the same day that I’ve come to Cleveland for a cameo in the Kevin Costner film Draft Day, we’re concluding the Mt. Rushmore nomination process with the Cleveland Browns.

In the comments, nominate your favorite Browns players, coaches, owners, etc.  Chances are that most of the nominees will come from the pre-1996 era, before a certain former owner who has little chance of making it to the Browns’ Mt. Rushmore moved the team to Baltimore.  Since the team returned in 1999, there has been only one playoff appearance, and few players or other figures to overcome the likes of Jim Brown, Paul Brown, Otto Graham, and Lou Groza.

But we’ll consider any nominations as we put the list of 12 finalists together.  Drop the preferred names below.

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  1. bigzant82 says: May 24, 2013 10:39 AM

    Jim Brown
    Otto Graham
    Bernie Kosar
    Clay Matthews Sr.
    Joe Haden
    Josh Cribbs
    Butch Davis
    Marty Schottenheimer
    Ozzie Newsome

  2. ravenution says: May 24, 2013 10:39 AM

    Tim Couch
    Braylon Edwards
    Brady Quinn
    Kellen Winslow Jr

  3. ohiofootball says: May 24, 2013 10:40 AM

    Paul Warfield
    Ozzie Newsome

  4. garyzx7r says: May 24, 2013 10:41 AM

    Bernie Kosar and Clay Mathews

  5. mikeyozip says: May 24, 2013 10:42 AM

    Not sure who I would take out but Bernie Kosar needs to be in this list.

  6. bshaffe33 says: May 24, 2013 10:43 AM

    Jim Brown
    Paul Brown
    Otto Graham
    Bernie Kosar

  7. erikinhell says: May 24, 2013 10:44 AM

    Paul Brown, Marrion Mottley, Otto Graham, Jim Brown.

    From more recent times, but unfortunately not recent enough:

    Bernie Kozar, Clay Matthews, Eric Turner, Frank Minifield, Hanford Dixon.

  8. digitaldonnie says: May 24, 2013 10:47 AM

    Jim Brown
    Ozzie Newsome
    Clay Matthews
    Phil Dawson

  9. aspenbuck says: May 24, 2013 10:47 AM

    Brian Brennan
    Dante Lavelli

  10. ozzie82 says: May 24, 2013 10:48 AM

    Jim Brown
    Otto Graham
    Ozzie Newsome
    Paul Brown

  11. johncarr43 says: May 24, 2013 10:48 AM

    Paul Brown, Jim Brown and Otto Graham are no-brainers. Just so the reborn Browns are represented, I’ll pick Josh Cribbs as the 4th.

  12. kevin7777777 says: May 24, 2013 10:48 AM

    Jim Brown, Paul Brown, Bernie Kosar, Otto Graham. Honorable Mention: LeRoy Kelly, Ozzie Newsome, Clay Matthews,

  13. citizenstrange says: May 24, 2013 10:48 AM

    “Since the team returned in 1999, there has been only one playoff appearance, and few players or other figures to overcome the likes of Jim Brown, Paul Brown, Otto Graham, and Lou Groza.”
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    In all fairness though it would be hard for ANY post 1999 team to unseat those four.

  14. civilwarfish says: May 24, 2013 10:53 AM

    Jim Brown
    Bernie Kosar
    Paul Brown
    Josh Cribbs

    Honorable Mention

    Lou Groza
    Paul Warfield
    Leroy Kelly
    Hanford Dixon
    Clay Matthews (II)
    Blanton Collier
    Marty Schottenheimer
    Bill Belichick

  15. quizguy66 says: May 24, 2013 10:55 AM

    1) Paul Brown
    2) Jim Brown

    (the other 2 should have to change their last name to “Brown” Ramones style btw).

    Anyway

    3) Otto Graham
    4) (reserved for future use – aka Trent Richardson)

    -QG

  16. erikinhell says: May 24, 2013 10:55 AM

    Since 99, I think the only picks should be:
    Joe Thomas and Phil Dawson

  17. elwaysagenius says: May 24, 2013 10:56 AM

    Tom couch
    Brandon weeden
    Brady Quinn
    Colt McCoy

  18. ss9boxer says: May 24, 2013 10:57 AM

    Jim Brown, Otto Graham, Paul Brown, Bernie Koszar

  19. dalanz28 says: May 24, 2013 10:57 AM

    Jim Brown, Paul Brown, Otto Graham, Bernie Kosar

  20. vulturedawgvulturedawg says: May 24, 2013 10:58 AM

    Bernie Kosar, Jim Brown, Phil Dawson, Hanford Dixon

  21. snoop0323 says: May 24, 2013 10:59 AM

    Jim Brown
    Otto Graham
    Paul Brown
    Dante Lavelli

  22. micknangold says: May 24, 2013 11:02 AM

    Paul and Jim Brown, Otto Graham, and Marion Motley.

  23. godofwine330 says: May 24, 2013 11:03 AM

    Jim Brown
    Bernie Kosar
    Ozzie Newsome (the Wizard of Oz)
    Otto Graham

    I thought about putting Paul Brown in there but there were only four, and who would I remove? Kosar was influential to the resurgence of the Browns in the 80’s, and had it not been for an elbow injury that for so long had gone unmentioned in a game in ’89 I believe, he would have continued to be effective into the 90’s.

    Other honorable mentions are: Clay Matthews II

  24. pinchekeith says: May 24, 2013 11:04 AM

    Ozzie Newsome needs mentioning

  25. blantoncollier says: May 24, 2013 11:05 AM

    Paul Brown
    Jim Brown
    Otto Graham
    Lou Groza

    Bernie Kosar is a local recent favorite, but please he couldn’t the others water, let alone be on the same list!

  26. liongator says: May 24, 2013 11:08 AM

    Jim Brown
    Leroy Kelly
    Greg Pruitt
    Bernie Kosar

  27. turkjones says: May 24, 2013 11:09 AM

    Jim Brown
    Paul Brown
    Otto Graham
    Bernie Kosar

  28. listenupcupcake says: May 24, 2013 11:12 AM

    As others have said, there are 3 drop-dead, absolute, no-brainer locks, and then a bunch of solid candidates for the Jefferson slot:
    1 – Paul Brown – coaching innovator, iconoclast, arguably the first true modern NFL coach – and the man for whom the team is named;
    2 – Jim Brown – the best RB ever;
    3 – Otto Graham – the best championship QB ever (7 AAFL/NFL championships, and played in 10 straight championship games, in a 10 year career);
    and
    4 – Marion Motley – the most punishing RB between the eras of Bronko Nagurski and Jim Brown.

    HM – Lou Groza, Bernie Kosar, Ozzie Newsome, Paul Warfield (first tier); Leroy Kelly, Clay Matthews (second tier).

  29. almighty1 says: May 24, 2013 11:19 AM

    Did I really see Josh Cribbs mentioned multiple times. Geez Browns fans.

  30. mobuccsfan says: May 24, 2013 11:20 AM

    Paul Brown
    Jim Brown
    Otto Graham
    Paul Warfield
    Clay Matthews Sr.
    Bernie Kosar
    Leroy Kelly
    Phil Dawson
    Ozzie Newsome
    Joe Thomas
    Frank Minnfield
    Schottenheimer

    Possible future guys: Haden and Richardson

  31. evilglazers666 says: May 24, 2013 11:24 AM

    Jim Brown
    Otto Graham
    LeRoy Kelly
    Ozzie Newsome

    First Alternate:
    Paul Warfield

  32. hess97 says: May 24, 2013 11:25 AM

    jim brown
    marion motley
    otto graham
    ozzie newsome

  33. ken49ers says: May 24, 2013 11:27 AM

    1. Art Modell
    2. John Elway
    3. Ernest Byner
    4. Bill Cowher

  34. sb35and47champs says: May 24, 2013 11:28 AM

    Jim Brown
    Otto Graham
    Bernie Kosar
    Sipe

  35. dtp1056 says: May 24, 2013 11:31 AM

    Paul Brown
    Jim Brown
    Lou Groza
    Otto Graham
    Bernie Kosar
    Brian Sipe
    Ozzie Newsome

    It’s hilarious seeing people lump Josh Cribbs in with the likes of these dudes.

  36. micknangold says: May 24, 2013 11:34 AM

    No love for Motley?

  37. crownofthehelmet says: May 24, 2013 11:40 AM

    Red Right 88
    The Fumble
    The Drive
    The Move

  38. gridironraider says: May 24, 2013 11:43 AM

    Art Modell
    Ray Lewis
    Ed Reed
    Jonathan Ogden

  39. Earl Westlake says: May 24, 2013 11:44 AM

    Paul Brown
    Jim Brown
    Otto Graham
    Lou Groza

    Next in line…
    Marian Motley
    Ozzie Newsome
    Clay Matthews II (the III is in GB)
    Joe Thomas
    Paul Warfield
    Hanford Dixon

  40. oldskoolson1 says: May 24, 2013 11:45 AM

    Everyone already knows about

    1. Jim Brown
    2 Paul Brown

    Them 2 names are no BRAINERS!

    What about the late great Hard Hitting Eric Turner

  41. jesse1834 says: May 24, 2013 11:46 AM

    Paul Brown, Marion Motley/Lou Groza, Otto Graham, and Jim Brown.

    1999 and beyond Browns

    Josh Cribbs
    Phil Dawson
    Joe Thomas
    Al Lerner

  42. giocosoman says: May 24, 2013 11:48 AM

    Jim Brown
    Paul Brown
    Otto Graham
    Bernie Kosar

    …and no way for Modell! Ever!!!!!!!

  43. fanofbrowns17 says: May 24, 2013 11:52 AM

    Otto Graham
    Jim Brown
    Paul Brown
    Ozzie Newsome

  44. codiablo says: May 24, 2013 11:53 AM

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    staph infections

  45. brownoholic says: May 24, 2013 12:01 PM

    Paul Brown
    Jim Brown
    Otto Graham
    Bernie Kosar

  46. cledawg says: May 24, 2013 12:08 PM

    As a kid who grew up in the 80’s I would love to see Bernie on the list, but the powerhouse teams of my father childhood get the vote.

    Otto Graham
    Paul Brown
    Jim Brown
    Lou Groza

    Semi Finalists
    Bernie Kosar
    Ozzie Newsome
    Clay Mathews
    Marion Motley
    Dante Lavelli
    Leroy Kelly
    Eric Metcalf (had to put him down)

  47. reengleman says: May 24, 2013 12:10 PM

    In alphabetical order:

    Jim Brown
    Paul Brown
    Otto Graham
    One of the following: Lou Groza, LeRoy Kelley, Ozzie Newsome or Paul Warfield

  48. longsufferingbillsfan says: May 24, 2013 12:11 PM

    Jim Brown, Paul Brown, Otto Graham…for variety I’ll pick Josh Cribbs.

  49. dolbydud says: May 24, 2013 12:11 PM

    Jim Brown
    Paul Brown
    Otto Graham
    Gene Hickerson

    Hey Florio,
    Make sure to hit up Market Garden next to West Side Market before you leave the wonderful city of Cleveland. If you plan to stay for dinner you HAVE to eat at Pier W.

  50. speedback says: May 24, 2013 12:13 PM

    Jim Brown
    Ozzie Newsome
    Paul Brown
    Jack Gregory

  51. Jamie Wheeler says: May 24, 2013 12:16 PM

    In this order:

    The first 3 are without doubt:

    Paul Brown
    Jim Brown
    Otto Graham

    Marion Motley or Lou Groza

    Fan Favorites, but should not be on the list:
    Ozzie Newsome
    Clay Matthews (From same draft)
    Hanford Dixon
    Brian Sipe
    Bernie Kosar

    Joe Thomas will make it if he continues at this pace.

  52. modellforprez says: May 24, 2013 12:21 PM

    some teams are obviously easy to figure out like teams that have only been around a little while like the Jags and panthers then you get teams like the browns and packers and bears with so much history and tradition that you dont know where to start. So my brown rushmore is Otto graham Jim brown ozzie newsome and Joe thomas and i know fans are probably like no one Oz and Joe but i dont know enough about their history so thats all i got.

  53. tejasdawg says: May 24, 2013 12:30 PM

    Three stand above all: PaulBrown, OttoGraham, JimBrown. Choosing a fourth? GoodLuck. 4a.MarionMotley, 4b.LouGroza, 4c.BernieKosar, 4d.remaining HOF’rs and lifelong personal favourites, 4e.NeverModell

  54. bcgreg says: May 24, 2013 12:33 PM

    Paul Brown
    Jim Brown
    Otto Graham
    Marion Motley

  55. getyourownname says: May 24, 2013 12:37 PM

    Browns should trade some of their extra draft choices for space on other teams’ sites. They have so many deserving players compared to what some other teams could muster. The idea that Paul Warfield can’t make the top squad is mind-boggling.

    Besides, they wouldn’t know what to do with those draft choices nowadays, anyway.

  56. lbcoach34 says: May 24, 2013 12:42 PM

    Mike Johnson
    Eddie Johnson
    Clay Mathews
    Chip Banks

  57. lbcoach34 says: May 24, 2013 12:43 PM

    MDP
    Bob Golic
    Dave Puzzouli
    Reggie Camp
    Carl Hairston

  58. lbcoach34 says: May 24, 2013 12:44 PM

    Herman Fontenot
    Gerald McNeil
    Chris Rockins
    Felix Wright

  59. electionconfidential says: May 24, 2013 12:58 PM

    Marion Motley
    Paul Brown
    Jim Brown
    Otto Graham
    Leroy Kelly
    Ozzie Newsome

  60. thecityofalmost says: May 24, 2013 1:07 PM

    Paul Brown
    Jim Brown
    Otto Graham
    Bernie Kosar

  61. ohiogator says: May 24, 2013 1:20 PM

    Jim brown, Otto graham, Paul brown, Ozzie newsome, Bernie kosar, Lou groza, maybe joe Thomas. How about William green………wait?

  62. trademarkelane says: May 24, 2013 1:25 PM

    Easy: Jim Brown, Lou Groza, The Wizard of Oz, Joe Thomas

  63. coltzfan166 says: May 24, 2013 1:31 PM

    May as well just put Jim Brown four times

  64. borophyll says: May 24, 2013 1:34 PM

    Jim Brown, Paul Brown, Otto Graham, and Bernie Kosar.

  65. bobzilla1001 says: May 24, 2013 1:37 PM

    Chuck Noll, not Knoll
    Matt Stover
    Chris Barr
    Bill Cowher

  66. hbdbrowns33 says: May 24, 2013 2:05 PM

    Jim Brown Otto Graham Hanford Dixon Paul Browns Marion Motley Dante Lavelli Lou Groza Ozzie Newsome Paul Warfield Leroy Kelly. The only current Browns player to get mention is Joe Thomas.

  67. jdphx says: May 24, 2013 2:09 PM

    How do Brownies feel about Mike Davis?

  68. hbdbrowns33 says: May 24, 2013 2:09 PM

    How did I forget Clay Matthews and Bernie? I’m going to go sit in the corner now.

  69. bcgreg says: May 24, 2013 2:27 PM

    Stop with Bernie Kosar. Please. I know he’s a hometown hero but…

  70. gjshihadeh says: May 24, 2013 3:01 PM

    Jim Brown
    Paul Brown
    Otto Graham
    Clay Mathews

  71. mackcarrington says: May 24, 2013 3:10 PM

    The top 4:
    Paul Brown
    Marion Motley
    Otto Graham
    Jim Brown
    —–
    Other Cleveland Greats:
    Lou Groza
    Paul Warfield
    Gary Collins
    Dick Modzelwski
    Frank Ryan
    Leroy Kelly
    Gene Hickerson
    Ozzie Newsome
    Mike Howell
    Erich Barnes
    Ernie Green
    Bill Glass
    Joe Jones
    Greg Pruitt
    Brian Sipe
    Clay Matthews
    Thom Darden
    Chip Banks

  72. steelerben says: May 24, 2013 3:23 PM

    No love for Ernest Byner?

  73. pgripweed says: May 24, 2013 3:27 PM

    Clay Matthews
    Brian Sipe
    Ozzie Newsome
    Greg Pruitt
    Bernie Kosar
    Josh Cribbs
    Phil Dawson

    For all of you Kosar haters, Bernie put us in position to go to the Super Bowl not once but twice. Bernie did not allow Denver to drive the length of the field to tie the game and Bernie didn’t fumble the ball at the goal line.

  74. dirtyharry44 says: May 24, 2013 3:49 PM

    Jim Brown
    Paul Brown
    Otto Graham
    Marion Motley

    Enough said

  75. diminishingskills says: May 24, 2013 3:54 PM

    Paul Brown
    Jim Brown
    Otto Graham
    Lou Groza

    Lots of honorable mentions, but after all this is a Mount Rushmore we are talking here.

  76. seanpbeck says: May 24, 2013 4:11 PM

    Some of these are hilarious. Guys, Bernie is my favorite Brown of all-time but we’ve got some serious Hall of Famers who won’t even make it. Anyone post 99 is a joke except Joe Thomas who will eventually deserve it.

    1. Paul Brown
    2. Jim Brown
    3. Otto Graham

    4. Take your pick from the following bc they’re all correct: Groza, Motley, Newsome, Warfield.

  77. stairwayto7 says: May 24, 2013 4:24 PM

    Everyone knows the worthless Browns never had 4 very good players!
    Byner
    Couch
    Quinn
    Wynn

  78. twayward says: May 24, 2013 5:25 PM

    Jim Brown, Otto Graham, Paul Brown and Marion Motley.

    Found this foursome easy to put together. Jim Brown, Otto Graham and Marion Motley were voted on to the NFL 75th Anniversary All-Time Team. Paul Brown is one of the best and most influential coaches in NFL history. His coaching tree includes Super Bowl winning coaches Don Shula, Weeb Ewbank, Bill Walsh and Chuck Noll.

  79. mazblast says: May 24, 2013 6:06 PM

    Paul Brown
    Jim Brown
    Otto Graham
    Marion Motley

    Honorable mention–Lou Groza (easily substituted for Motley), Brian Sipe, Marty Schottenheimer, Leroy Kelly, Ozzie Newsome (as a player), Clay Matthews, Dante Lavelli

  80. csszrr says: May 24, 2013 8:05 PM

    The one name missing is one of the true greats. Bill Willis. Another, Frank Gatski. But as time goes by, people forget about the early greats.

  81. lakermetskins says: May 24, 2013 10:03 PM

    This is one case in which the term “Last, but also Least” applies.

    Owners
    Art Modell
    Al Lerner
    Randy Lerner
    Jimmy Haslem

    Coaches
    Romeo Crennel
    Eric Mangini
    Pat Shurmur
    Chris Palmer

    Quarterbacks
    Spergon Wynn
    Doug Pederson
    Charlie Frye
    Bruce Gradkowski
    Tim Couch doesn’t qualify because he’s the 5th leading passer in Browns history!

    Role Models
    Jim Brown’s Misogynistic tendencies
    Donte Stallworth-killed someone as a Brown
    Armonty Bryant 2013 7th rd. draft pick
    Benjamin Gay

    1st round Picks
    Mike Junkin
    Courtney Brown
    Braylon Edwards
    Gerald Warren

    By color
    William Green
    Courtney Brown
    Charles White
    Jamel White

    It’s gotta be hard to be a Browns fan. God Bless them.

  82. 1urb says: May 24, 2013 10:36 PM

    Jim Brown – Arguably the greatest football player ever.
    Paul Brown – Arguably the greatest football coach ever.
    Bernie Kosar – Arguably the most loved Cleveland Brown ever.

    And finally…

    The Cleveland Browns Fans – Without the fans there would be no Cleveland Browns, literally. When the team was moved, the fans successfully fought to keep the name, the colors and the history in Cleveland. To the best of my knowledge, no other fan base has done anything like that…and it will probably never be done again. That passion needs to be recognized and Browns Fans need to be on the monument.

  83. Super Joe Charboneau says: May 24, 2013 11:12 PM

    Paul Brown
    Jim Brown
    Otto Graham
    The Dawg Pound

  84. dawgswillhunt says: May 24, 2013 11:33 PM

    Paul Brown
    Otto Graham
    Jim Brown

    Leave the rest blank. Champions only.

  85. jwag777 says: May 25, 2013 12:08 AM

    Jim Brown, Otto Graham, Paul Warfield, Ozzie Newsome. Followed by Lou Groza, Bernie Kosar, Leroy Kelly, Greg Pruitt.

  86. tygers91 says: May 25, 2013 1:22 AM

    Jim Brown
    Paul Brown
    Otto Graham
    Marion Motley
    Bernie Kosar
    Eric Metcalf
    Lou Groza
    Clay Matthews
    Hanford Dixon
    Frank Minnifield
    Kevin Mack
    Ernest Byner
    Greg Pruitt
    Mike Pruitt
    Michael Dean Perry
    Felix Wright
    Webster Slaughter
    Blanton Collier
    Marty

  87. duckdecoy says: May 25, 2013 7:17 AM

    Bernie Kosar
    Jim Brown
    Jerry Sherk
    Joe Thomas
    Ozzie Newsome
    Clay Mathews
    Gene Hickerson
    Dick Ambrose
    Frank Minnifield
    Hanford Dixon
    Otto Graham
    Dave Logan

  88. kwjsb says: May 25, 2013 8:52 AM

    Most all the good ones are posted, but since the censors wont let me post his full name lets just say a certain punter/kicker named Don C.
    Sam Shoulda let him kick that field goal and there never would have been a red right88

  89. stonefish67 says: May 25, 2013 9:46 AM

    Jim Brown-BEST EVER
    Otto Graham
    Dante Lavelli
    Paul Warfield

  90. dweary says: May 26, 2013 5:43 PM

    Jim Brown
    Otto Graham
    Bernie Kosar
    Marion Motley

  91. oldcracker says: May 27, 2013 3:21 AM

    I noticed that my list of nominees got pulled. I believe I know why.

    I listed:
    HC Forrest Gregg
    HC Marty Shotenheimer
    QB Milt Plumm
    PK Don C-ckroft, the former kicker

    I believe the kicker’s name must have set off some sort of automatic censoring software.

    You would think NBC could do better.

  92. Deb says: May 27, 2013 4:18 PM

    Paul Brown
    Jim Brown
    Otto Graham
    Ozzie Newsome

  93. Chris Henry's Wild Ride says: May 27, 2013 7:18 PM

    Jim Brown, Otto Graham, Bernie Kosar, and Phil Dawson (gotta have 1 new era brown).

  94. brownspower says: May 27, 2013 7:24 PM

    Paul Brown
    Otto Graham
    Jim Brown
    Dr Frank Ryan ( qb ’64 world champion team)

  95. kcsmashmouth says: May 27, 2013 9:21 PM

    Paul Brown
    Jim Brown
    Otto Graham
    Marion Motley

  96. oldcracker says: May 28, 2013 6:02 AM

    Hey, no one mentioned Jeff Garcia either.

  97. musicman495 says: May 30, 2013 2:00 AM

    Paul Brown
    Jim Brown
    Otto Graham
    Marion Motley
    Leroy Kelly
    Paul Warfield
    Ozzie Newsome

    Sorry, I love people like Bernie Kosar, Ernest Byner and Kevin Mack, but they do not make this list.

    No one from the reincarnated Browns has done enough to make this list.

  98. audient says: May 31, 2013 11:41 AM

    Jim Brown, Paul Brown, Otto Graham, and Lou Groza – that may well be the four.

    No to Ozzie. Love him when he was here, but he’s now a Raven. I don’t blame him for that. But no Browns Mount Rushmore for him.

    No to Bernie. Loved him when was here. That was the Browns I grew up with. But the Browns have won 8 pro championships, four in the NFL, and Bernie was in none of them.

    Paul Brown? I could take the Ozzie position and say no, since he went on to found the Bengals. But that was because of Modell’s treachery that he was run out of the Browns, so I say we continue to claim him.

    Jim Brown is without question, beyond dispute.

    Otto is indeed Automatic.

    Lou the Toe — one Browns kicker more prolific than Dawson, if the kids can believe it.

  99. droyer85 says: Jun 5, 2013 2:15 PM

    Bill Belichick
    Nick Saban
    Ozzie Newsome
    Jim Brown

  100. brownsalwaysrebuilding says: Jun 5, 2013 10:16 PM

    Jim Brown
    Bernie Kosar
    Brian Sipe
    Otto Graham

  101. arcaero says: Jun 11, 2013 10:44 AM

    The Cleveland Browns Fans

    for dogged loyalty

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