Titus Young appears in court, refuses to address judge

AP

Titus Young, the troubled former Lions receiver who has been arrested three times this month and has been in jail since May 11, appeared in court today but refused to address the judge.

According to USA Today, the interaction between Young and Judge Andre Manssourian went like this:

Judge: “Good morning, sir.”

Young: No reply.

Judge: “Can you hear me?”

Young: No reply.

Judge: “Are you Titus Demetrius Young?”

Young: No reply.

When Young refused to even confirm his name, the judge called the attorneys over and had a sidebar discussion with them, during which time Young continued to stand silently. At one point Young’s father, who was in the courtroom, called out to him, but Young still did not respond. Young’s attorney later said that Young was exercising his right to remain silent.

Friends and family members have said they’re concerned about the mental state of Young, who is facing a slew of charges including burglary, battery on a police officer and drunk driving. The judge said Young “poses a danger to the community” and increased his bail from $25,000 to $50,000. Young’s family has apparently decided not to post bail, thinking he is better off remaining in jail until he receives the mental health treatment he needs.

145 responses to “Titus Young appears in court, refuses to address judge

  1. Open an exhibit at the zoo and put him in. It’ll be safer for everyone. Dude is damaged goods.

  2. Can’t say I am surprised by this. I’m actually surprised something really incredibly weird didn’t happen.

  3. “I’ve sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn’t want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.”

    If only Judge Smails were presiding…

  4. Sometimes 2nd and 3rd chances aren’t enough…all the talent in the world and this kid is going nowhere. Such a shame

  5. Its sad really… mental health is a serious issue that needs to be adressed.

    If you’ve got bronchitis, you go to the doctor.
    But, if you’re mentally unwell, people often refuse to seek help from a doctor.

    I really hope this guys gets the help he needs.

  6. If he can’t get the mental health treatment he needs outside of jail, better for him to stay in jail.

    Also: What kind of country gives healthcare to its criminals, but not it’s law-abiding citizens?

  7. So sad that a person with so much potential on the football field that can use that skill to make a living for his family to have a downward spiral. Hopefully he gets his help to overcome his mental issues.

  8. This is a really sad story that continues to take unfortunate turns. It’s really bothers me that’s its another young black man who’s really not that much younger than me, and I have a background working in mental health so I can understand someone having difficulty with accepting the fact they have a mental health diagnosis.

  9. Young does pose as a danger, but raising his bail will not make him less of a danger. This young man needs some serious help and guidance. I hope he gets it.

  10. Theres a difference between exorcising your right to remain silent and just being stupid, the point of exorcising your right to silence is not to say anything incriminating, now being asked your name? im pretty damn sure they know his name by now. Save that 5th amendment card for other situations titus, you know, like when its actually useful and not just weird.

  11. Okay, where to go with this….. so many ways.

    Note to Youngs attorney:

    Exercising your right to remain silent has its time and place. When the judge is asking basic questions…….. you answer them with a Yes Sir!

  12. Glad they left him in, get this man some help and i don’t mean 20 years in jail like they do with the rest of our mentally ill.

  13. this kid has got to be on something.. I have a hard time believing an emotional/mental disorder would not have created issues in college already. A heroin dependency would make sense

  14. And the Detroit Lions not only used a draft pick on this guy, but a high second round pick. I hope the scout that talked him up got canned.

  15. Is it that hard for someone to get in his ear and tell him that people are actually willing to pay big money to you to do nothing more than run around and catch footballs?

  16. “MichaelWrites says:
    How come women never do that?”
    _____________________________
    Post of the year right there.

  17. Titus meet your new cell mate BUBBA, and we dont mean Bubba Smith. Titus new position is tight end.

  18. And Mayhew probably never had his pay docked for all of his mistakes. That’s the real sad crime here. No justice or accountability to do a good job here in Detroit.

  19. I tell my kids that if they don’t behave Santa wont come but in his place Titus Young will pay them a visit in that festive red vest.

    I kid, I kid

    New Blogs up, for the Football starved

  20. I agree Mr Young currently is a danger to himself or others and he can’t just be let out. However….I do hope that some of you recall your comments when it is a member of your family suffering from mental illness. Many of you expect logical common sense thinking from this man when he is obviously not able to think that way.

  21. This is quite tragic. All that talent and this kid cannot get it together. You can take the kid out of the ghetto but you cannot take the ghetto out of the kid!

  22. It’s obvious he needs help. The problem is too many people with similar issues refuse to accept any help or advice. Mental health care is horrid. Too much cookie cutter mentality and going through the motions to get the recurring money spent. Here, try this pill. Later, ok up the dose. Later, try this instead. Seemingly endless cycle.

  23. Titus Young has mental issues, Amanda Bynes is one of the many people that likes to smoke weed. There is no relation.

  24. The family is both right and wrong. If he is released on bail, he’s a danger to the community and himself and probably would refuse to get mental professional help. However, it he’s left in jail, he probably won’t be provided with the help he needs and probably would refuse to accept it if offered.

    I think the best thing to do would be to send him to a state psychiatric lockdown and have a psychiatrist try to evaluate him.

  25. Same thing I will do with my 3 Boys…
    If you did the crime, you’ll do the time. Leaving him in jail and refusing to bail him out is the best thing they can do at this point. Bailing him out is like saying its ok to just break the law. Give him some time in there, It will force him to look at his life from a different aspect. Maybe spending a few nights at the crowbar motel will set him on a straighter path. He went from a player in the NFL to a regular Joe with no dough, It has to be a big jump.

  26. If he truly “poses a danger to the community”, why is bail even an option? The judge obviously thinks he is crazy enough to possibly hurt someone. If that is true, is that $50K going to go to the family of someone he might hurt/kill while committing some crime? If he is a danger, he should not be on the streets regardless of whether it is $25K or $25 million. The possibility of someone losing their life should not have a price tag.

  27. I can’t even laugh at the Young anymore, or use him to talk trash about the Lions

    Now I just feel sorry for the guy

  28. This is fantastic! I’ve never been so entertained. This clown isn’t losing a grip on reality, he has always been this way. Don’t have sympathy for Titus Young, Sr. That would take away from people that really do have mental issues.

  29. Sounds like a mixture of too many concussions and those meds they gave him to treat the effects. You can’t take drugs that they feed schizophrenics and not expect to have some wild side effect related to chemical imbalances in the brain.

  30. Judges do come off as arrogant sometimes. Maybe Titus just didn’t want to feed the judge’s ego today? Or … maybe the cat had his tongue?

    I don’t know what he’s thinking.

  31. This thread contains an impressive array of unfortunate sorts from all walks of life. Some are clueless as to the basics of mental illness, some are clueless as to the basics of our legal system and some are just cold hearted, failed comedians and possibly racist. Incredibly, some of you might be a combo of all of the above. The reality is that Titus has a fairly severe condition, possibly a form of psychosis, with any number of possible aggravating triggers, including drug use, and is unable to recognize the need for treatment or make informed decisions. That doesn’t excuse his conduct or necessarily absolve him of legal responsibility and there is a strong likelihood that he will either face a lengthy period of incarceration or ling term commitment to a secure mental health facility combined with a prison sentence. In any event, this is not just punk behavior or a bad attitude or acting ghetto. He needs significant intervention and sequestration from society to protect the rest of us from his dangerous conduct until such time as he is fully stabilized and released from the criminal justice system. The NFL days are over. Hopefully, the ignorant commentary is over, too.

  32. I was one of those people calling Young an idiot after his arrest this last time. I figured just another entitled athlete thinking he’s above the law.

    Now it’s starting to feel very unfortunate and sad that he truly has some emotional and behavioral issues. I hope he does get help he needs whether it be in jail or by someone outside of jail. As someone posted above, as sad as it is he might have a better shot at getting the treatment he needs staying locked up. But I would bet his family doesn’t care where it happens, as long as it just happens.

    I can’t imagine how his father and mother feel. I’m sure they were like the rest of us at first and wondering how someone could be so stupid. But at the end of the day he’s still their son and that’s the first priority over anything else. Regardless of how stupid he’s been, or how angry they’ve been.

  33. I predicted this would happen. Right after St Louis released him there was an article written and posted on PFT. I had reservations for his mental well being after Jeff Fischer couldn’t connect with him. I posted a comment that this kid will end up in prison. I wish my predictions could be that accurate when picking stocks.
    Too Bad.

  34. From the mugshot photo, looks like Titus has the eyes of an oxycodone or heroine junkie. Seen it before, and the behavior matches. It’s sad, but he made his choices, now it’s time to deal with the consequences of his actions. Enjoy jail Titus. You had an NFL career, and YOU blew it.

  35. Does anybody remember the episode of boondocks, where tom goes to jail, and he drops the soap, and guy step behind him, and tells him that he miss a spot, i hope titus dont forget to wash behind ears.

  36. this just in- a lawyer dressed in a orange and black stripped suit said he can straighten him out and has a job offer lined up with other ex cons to help him out..16 weeks a year to!

  37. If he has mental issues then why didn’t his attorney plead not guilty due to insanity. We are just taking.one thing- Titus being an a$$h0le and calling it another- mental illness. Come on really

  38. he just trying to be gangsta..not acknowledging the judge or the court…being defiant. Brother got some money in his pocket and the man trying to bring him down.
    Now they gonna say ‘mental’? Please..He knows what the heck he did. He’s just trying to get street cred.

  39. While his Family was wise with their decision, his attorney needs to do everything to get this get in a facility to get help as quickly as possible.

    Very Sad.

  40. I don’t find depression, bipolar disorder, or any psychological problem to be funny in the least. Especially since we’ve recently seen the same tragic situations played out in America resulting loss of life. Would it still have been funny if Titus Young had killed somebody?

    It’s funny how the American public can judge and turn their back on you once they see no use for you.

    I just think the guy and his family needs support, not criticism right now.

  41. Judge rules he poses a threat to society and raises his bond to $50,000 from $25,000. In other words, he’s a threat to society, so we will still give him a chance of release but we want to make sure we all make some money out of this. How about if we rule that someone’s a danger, we do the right thing and not have a bond? Hmmm…

  42. Remember when you were on a long car ride as a kid and mom and dad made you and your siblings play the “silent game”???

    #HOF Titus is already a legend! 🙂

  43. @pacoman If Titus Young was the reason you lost in fantasy, you must be as delusional as him. That being said, you shouldn’t be playing fantasy football period, if it was because of Young you lost your season!

  44. After what happened to Brian Banks, I don’t blame him for not risking himself in the racist justice system. If he were white, the reporters would have said “he exercised his right to demean silent” and that would have been the end of it. But since he is black, clearly he is too dumb to know his rights.

  45. So pathetic how society continues to conjure up excuses to explain this absurd behavior. Funny how no one ever heard of stories like this about Titus while he was in college at BSU. But now he suddenly has a mental illness because he repeatedly got caught acting like a total buffoon?

    Getting a DUI is mental illness? Nope, sorry.

    Attempting to steal your own car from the police impound is mental illness? Nope, sorry.

    Breaking into someone else’s home to burglarize it is mental illness?

    Sorry but this kid is an irresponsible and entitled punk that is obviously taking zero accountability for his actions. Be a freakin man, these excuses are ridiculous

  46. “dsharpe8 says: May 24, 2013 4:16 PM

    This is a really sad story that continues to take unfortunate turns. It’s really bothers me that’s its another young black man who’s really not that much younger than me, and I have a background working in mental health so I can understand someone having difficulty with accepting the fact they have a mental health diagnosis.”

    I think I know what you’re trying to say, dsharpe8, but I’ll say it really bothers me when anyone of any color is suffering with mental health disorders – or anything else for that matter. I am a black man as well. It should bother people when other people – regardless of whatever groups anyone belongs to – are struggling.

  47. Smart of his family not to post his bail, but unless Young has somehow blown all his NFL paychecks, there should be NO bail.

  48. vertskate900 says: May 24, 2013 4:17 PM

    “Detroliet sure knows how to pick ‘em.”

    Are you trying to combine the words Detroit and Joliet?

    I don’t get it….

  49. Given all he has been through the last two years, self inflicted or not, it is not surprising that all of this has taken a toll on his mental health. I hope the kid gets some help. Sounds like he is going to need it. Nationally his name will the butt of jokes for many years to come. That will be quite tough for any kid to deal with, especially someone with mental health issues.

    I am not saying I would want to live next to this kid. But I do feel sorry for him.

  50. metrocritical says: May 24, 2013 5:45 PM

    This thread contains an impressive array of unfortunate sorts from all walks of life. Some are clueless as to the basics of mental illness, some are clueless as to the basics of our legal system and some are just cold hearted, failed comedians and possibly racist. Incredibly, some of you might be a combo of all of the above. The reality is that Titus has a fairly severe condition, possibly a form of psychosis, with any number of possible aggravating triggers, including drug use, and is unable to recognize the need for treatment or make informed decisions. That doesn’t excuse his conduct or necessarily absolve him of legal responsibility and there is a strong likelihood that he will either face a lengthy period of incarceration or ling term commitment to a secure mental health facility combined with a prison sentence. In any event, this is not just punk behavior or a bad attitude or acting ghetto. He needs significant intervention and sequestration from society to protect the rest of us from his dangerous conduct until such time as he is fully stabilized and released from the criminal justice system. The NFL days are over. Hopefully, the ignorant commentary is over, too.

    Thanks for the insight Dr Phil

    P.S. tell Oprah we said hello

  51. Sounds like his counsel should pull him aside and tell him what “the right to remain silent” really means.

    He should be hoping for the judges sympathy, not ire.

  52. BUT……SO MANY PEOPLE SAY DON’T PLAY THAT CARD…….THIS COUNTRY HAS MOVED PASS JUDGING PEOPLE DIFFERENT. YEAH RIGHT!!!

  53. how is it a wise decision to leave him in jail? since when is jail the place to be for mental health? they’ll just lock him in a cage by himself. i guess he won’t be hurting the public but he won’t be helped either

  54. Bengal jokes really? There will be these jokes 30 years from now and those jokesters will be just as irrelevant as the the dumbass’ who gave use this sorry punchline. Goes for the suckers saying these played out jokes now.

  55. Shows how much of a flying fish he cares.

    There are people that would love to have an opportunity to be able to just walk, and this guy had the chance to be a world class athlete.

    Its a shame, that this is what he chose.

  56. Sad.

    I will pray for Titus Young and his father, loved ones, and his victim of his crime.

    Hopefully someone will get him help for his serious mental issues.

    Titus Young’s age is the approximate age that people with mental health problems are diagnosed with schizophrenia.

    It sounds that serious. And people do not take mental health that serious in this day and time, when they should.

  57. @MichealWrites
    Funny. PFT quote of the night !
    He thought he was a IRS management slug when asked questions by Congress.”Taking the 5th”

  58. “The judge said Young “poses a danger to the community” and increased his bail from $25,000 to $50,000.”

    So in other words, for $50,000, you can be a danger in the community!!

  59. Funny. It’s all about him having a mental illness now that he’s messing up. There was no talk of one a month ago. How convenient . I guess all criminal behavior can be argued as some form of mental illness. What a joke. The society I live in has an illness.

  60. This is sad. He’s probably a decent guy, just lost. He’s just hurting, we’ve been there, at least i have. Pray for him. His family is probably hurting very much. No team here, just hoping for him.

  61. ” I don’t find depression, bipolar disorder, or any psychological problem to be funny in the least. Especially since we’ve recently seen the same tragic situations played out in America resulting loss of life. Would it still have been funny if Titus Young had killed somebody?

    It’s funny how the American public can judge and turn their back on you once they see no use for you.

    I just think the guy and his family needs support, not criticism right now”

    Thank you. Reading some of these posts is almost as troubling as reading what Titus did. Some of the posts prove true the axiom, “being a free American means I have the right to be an idiot”.

  62. For those of you demanding he needs more from us than he’s already been given, get off your high horses. He had friends, family, agents, multiple NFL teams to sort out his issues. Don’t demand that from a public that already has been exposed to way too many of these cases. We come here to not only debate whose team is better, but to bring some levity to any situation – no matter how sad. Yes, he needs help, but his situation isn’t a one-time deal, he repeatedly was a menace to society. If all his support groups couldn’t fix him by now, I guess it’s up to the tax payers. If he truly is sick (not determined), then squeak at his support groups, not other football fans.

  63. “Young’s attorney later said that Young was exercising his right to remain silent.”

    This is an even bigger slap in the face to the judge.

    SMH.

  64. Thinking you have a right to remain completely totally absolutely unequivocably silent in court is typical of the ‘logic’ you could conjure in a manic delirium to psychosis state. The attorneys may not have had much or any chance to meet or even have spoken with the apparently purely determinedly silent Young prior to appearing before the judge. Your thinking process(es) can very typically become “not right” in many ways. That’s true of many neurotransmitters pathways, neural structures like brain or limbic system, & most of the time your interconnected endocrine system(s) can send you off into bat$#!+ mood distortion zones & etc. Why do you think they call it mental ILLNESS?

    If you’d blown out your pancreas by years of eating sugar & flour, fell out in a diabetic coma in the middle of traffic, people wouldn’t say you should get yourself back up & convince yourself to go to a doctor for what you might not have a clue was diabetes, yet that’s exactly what a large number of ‘serious’ responses back when Titus was demonstrated some classic mania sickness manifestations.

    You’d ride an ambulance to the hospital & people would visit you & send you cards & flowers & pray for you & say aww geee too bad that he has to deal with diabetes now … & even though type II you probably with awareness could have changed your sugar/flour consumption to have avoided the illness altogether with proper diligence & responsibility.

    The brain is an organ of the body. The pancreas is an organ of the body. When something goes physically wrong with any organ crap usually starts to go haywire in various ways, i.e. you start to display symptoms. Just so happens the brain organ is also by far both the most complex AND least understood of all the organs.

    The fact that it basically runs the show for all the rest, including your ‘personality’ means people should have MORE compassion when you display symptoms & suffer from a brain sickness, not think that the falling down off the wall/chain symptoms you might display mean that you should have to figure out what’s happening yourself & then convince yourself to get treatment first in order to go get help.

    Nobody judged diabetic guy when he had his coma & expected that he would have had to get himself up & only then internally dialogue his own ass on to the hospital all on his own … people just saw a ‘man down’ & hollered for the Hulk.

    Yet when they see Titus Young here displaying pretty clear cut symptoms to the level of possibly needing intervention & they still holler for the Hulk … only to smash him unmercifully with scorn, harsh judgment & derision

  65. petersjeffrey36 says:
    May 24, 2013 4:23 PM
    this kid has got to be on something.. I have a hard time believing an emotional/mental disorder would not have created issues in college already. A heroin dependency would make sense
    ___________________________________
    That is an incredibly ignorant statement.

  66. “Titus meet your new cell mate BUBBA, and we dont mean Bubba Smith. Titus new position is tight end.”

    For a day or 2…. Then back to wide receiver….

  67. A lot of us are making assumptions about Young, most commonly that he has a mental illness. While that is likely, none of us know since we haven’t met the kid nor are most of us professionals in that field.

    The likely options:
    1) Mental illness – If so, I hope he gets help and can right his life.
    2) Drugs – Would likely have to be over the top to drive him to where he seems to be. Again, if this is the case, I hope he can get help and turn it around.
    3) Prima donna jerkhole – It’s possible that he has just been so coddled his entire life as an athlete that he just feels society owes him something and he is just going to take it. If this is his problem, it is extremely difficult, but not impossible to fix.
    4) Some combination or all three of the above.

    I hope he can get help and get his life turned around, although the NFL is likely out of the picture now. But, if he can’t be helped so as to not be a danger to society, I hope he stays locked up.

  68. Yes i think this is not that far out if you think about it for a min.
    HEs in court about toget 7 to 8 years and they want to use the fact that he is mentaly ill well, no better way to plead an insanity plea withuot backing it up he just went all in and if your going to do it do it right.

  69. So the thought process for the family is that they should leave him in prison because that’s where he’ll get the best mental health treatment? More like he’s not the golden goose anymore so they don’t feel like putting out money for him. It’s not that hard to request that the judge confine him to a mental health facility instead of federal pound me in the a** prison. Even if the judge doesn’t allow it, they will still have tried to get him mental health services. Leaving someone in prison because you want them to get treatment does not pass the smell test and everybody knows it.

  70. I want to take this opportunity to thank all of you for your support and prayers for Titus and my family we are really having a rough time coming to grips with this but we believe that God will make a way. This is not a joking matter, it is a very serious matter and we would appreciate very much if you supported his parents and family by posting all of the derogatory and ignorant post when you really have no clue about what is truly going on, you are merely on the outside looking in but we know what we are dealing with and it is not easy. Pray for Titus and just how you would feel if it were you child or family member gong through this how would you deal with it. We are very hurt by the uncaring comments of some people but then again you don’t matter anyway. We are doing everything in our power to get Titus all of the help he needs and no he is not and never has been a bad kid, never been arrested before now ans was raised in the ghetto for those who want to know. Titus is not and addict as some of you commented and he needs your prayers and support. So the next time you want to get on the internet and shoot down someone who is unable to help themselves think that you reap what you sow and it might just be you next standing in the need of prayer….that right there

  71. We do not believe that Titus is a threat to society we believe that he may get hurt because of the sporadic behavior and by all means it is a hard choice for his family to live him in jail but we think it is best until he is moved to a treatment center. Please respect the family and not make ignorant remarks concerning his parents not caring this is very tough and hard on them as it would be on any parent. Why would we bail him out in his condition? We love Titus and that will never change….pray for our family instead of crucifying us in the press and on the internet

  72. all the “talent in the world” obviously doesn’t equal good decision making ability or mental health. don’t free titus. it sounds like he could use some regimentation in his life, and some accountability for the behavior. i’m not sure if there is such a thing as mental health/illness rehab. something like court ordered counseling while he’s incarcerated, would be worth trying, if his state will pay for it.

  73. It is really ironic how everyone can place judge, give diagnosis and put down another person they know nothing about it really shows how ignorant you truly are and there is no doubt about that diagnosis. Everything Titus has he earned no one gave it to him except His God given talent, including his degree. I would appreciate if EVERYONE RESPECTED THE FAMILY BECAUSE IT COULD BE YOURS ONE DAY. INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT IT PRAY ABOUT IT…. FOR ALL OF YOU WHO HAVE NEVER MET TITUS, HIS FAMILY, KNOW HIS LIFE, YOU DON’T MATTER TO US……TITUS’ WELL-BEING IS OUR FIRST AND ONLY CONCERN. Thanks to everyone who understand what we are going through and those who are supporting him while the chips are down like you were when he was flying high. TITUS WILL BE ALRIGHT AND WE HIS FAMILY IS GOING TO MAKE SURE OF THAT AND GOD IN HEAVEN IS WATCHING OVER HIM…OUR FAITH BELIEVES THAT.

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