Joe Linta: Ravens were dumb not to sign Flacco last year

AP

There’s been some talk this offseason that the Ravens were forced to part ways with players like Dannell Ellerbe, Ed Reed and Anquan Boldin because the contract extension given to quarterback Joe Flacco ate up too much cap space.

That may be true, but Flacco’s agent says that the blame should go to the Ravens rather than Flacco. Joe Linta told Jim Corbett of USA Today that contract extension talks with the Ravens broke down in 2012 over a difference of $1 million in non-guaranteed base salary in the final year of what would have been a six-year deal. Linta said that wound up costing the Ravens $35 million over the life of the deal and he wasn’t shy about sharing his thoughts about the Ravens’ decision-making.

“I’ve never in my life seen a dumber move. I guess people can say, ‘Well, Joe was dumb, too.’ It could have been (dumb), God forbid, if he got hurt. But $1 million to Steve Bisciotti six years from now? That’s like 100 bucks for you or me today,” Linta said.

Linta also isn’t sympathetic about the fact that the Ravens will almost certainly have to restructure the deal in three years to avoid a cap number of $28.55 million for Flacco in the 2016 season.

“I’m not apologetic for the fact this is really a three-year deal, there’s no way they can afford $29 million a couple of years from now,” Linta said. “I’m not apologetic. They chose to walk away.”

Now that the dust has settled on a busy offseason for the Ravens, the moves they made haven’t left the team looking too much worse than they would have if everyone returned from the championship team. Things likely would have played out differently if Flacco had signed last year, but it will be some time before we can know whether their “dumb” move hurt the team in the long run.

125 responses to “Joe Linta: Ravens were dumb not to sign Flacco last year

  1. So a player agent, who gets a percentage of the contract, doesnt think the contract is bad and blame should fall on someone else’s shoulders?

    That’s news.

  2. Way to mess up future relations with the Ravens owner and management.

    THAT is truly dumb…

  3. oh i don’t know. It was a widely held belief that flacco just didn’t have it, that is until last year’s playoffs.

    And frankly, he was bailed out by his receivers, and that D certainly helped.

    It will be interesting to see how flacco plays this coming season to say the least

  4. Have to agree that *all* teams are becoming increasingly dumb for paying this kind of money to QBs. Yes, they should be the highest players on the roster but the contracts beings agreed to by the teams for these guys will ultimately hurt the quality of the game because not enough will be left over to pay other players.

  5. I agree that it was dumber to sign Flacco this year as opposed to last year, but more importantly I think it’s extremely dumb for the Ravens to have given him all of that money. That was a horrendously terrible value and it will cost them dearly for the long-term. That’s crippling. And they could have been brilliant by trading him and getting a nice haul in exchange for somebody else overpaying him to that extreme.

    This set of decisions is NOT good football mngmt. This is how you position yourself for a future collapse as opposed to constantly building equity and value. They went for MAX depreciation possible. That’s crazy!

  6. It doesn’t matter to Flacco because now that his team won the SB and he has all the money the team can go 0-16 until he retires.

  7. It is life in today’s NFL.
    There are 32 teams. There are four bona fide elite quarterbacks and about 10 at the next tier. If you want to win you have to have an elite or upper tier 2 QB. If you want to get (or keep) this type of QB you have to pay big bucks. If you don’t someone else will.
    Supply and demand-Life in today’s NFL.

  8. They drafted Flacco to win a title and he delivered. As a 49ers fan, I don’t know how anybody who watched the 2nd half of the Super Bowl could say the defense bailed him out. The defense was getting shredded. He showed a ton of poise on their last TD drive and won the game for them. He isn’t on the level of Manning, Brady, Brees, or Rodgers, but you definitely have to put him on the same level as Roethlisberger. If titles matter when you talk about the greatest QB’s of all time, they matter at the negotiating table too. Also, there is no chance the Ravens are as good as they were last year. They might barely be a playoff team. The agent is absolutely right in what he is saying though. Flacco bet on himself and won and it cost the Ravens a lot of money. If they had played it safer, they might have been in a lot better shape this year. Instead they had to make moves like trading Bolden for a 6th round pick.

  9. Way to go!!!Millions of Raven dollars spent for future mediocrity…..Way to take them to the cleaners, Joe. Don’t forget to enclose a nice check to the broncos starting free safety for their debacle in the playoffs last year.

  10. Joe Linta is a solid, reputable agent who actually cares about his clients, which are few in number relative to the larger agencies.

    However, unloading like this seems foolhardy.

  11. Flacco really was a mediocre QB up until mid-Dec. Good for him and his bank account that he went on a fine 4-game run. But this contract will be a major millstone once he reverts to his mediocre mean.

  12. The Ravens deserved to get fleeced after what they pulled. Of course, Flaaco will never reach the Superbowl again.. Thats beside the point.

  13. Maybe one day people will actually stop regurgitating the “defense won for him” stuff if they actually took a minute to look at the Ravens defensive rankings this past regular and postseason.

    I’m sure the 17th ranked defense in the regular season, and the 5th worst defense in the postseason sure was dominant!

    Ironic that the Ravens won the Super Bowl with the worst defense they’ve had since 2002 by FAR…and people still want to give that defense all the credit and not any to a QB who has thrown 15 TD’s (should have been 16 if Evans didn’t drop that game winning TD in 2011) to 1 INT in the last 2 postseasons.

    But hey, apparently the Ravens mysteriously had the 2000 defense last year and Flacco threw 15 jump balls for TD’s lol.

  14. Joe Flacco had one good post season and now all the sudden everyone’s saying he’s “elite”….

    One good post season?? Actually he’s been to 3 out of 5 AFC Championship games. He’s gone at least to the AFC Divisional game all 5 times since he came into the league, so you are incorrect.

  15. If he signs that deal, he doesn’t play this season with a chip on his shoulder, and the Ravens might not win the Super Bowl.

    Paying $35 million over 6 years for a Super Bowl trophy is a bargain.

  16. Actually Linta its like this…

    Joe Flacco is getting what he is worth and he will deserve a reevaluation of his contract in 3 years to determine if he is still worth being paid as a top QB. Keeping him on a 3 year deal is smart, it keeps motivation to perform at the highest levels in place which is CRITICAL for the QB position.

    Linta-you think the Ravens care about paying Flacco like a top flight QB? You are crazy. They understand “pennywise pound foolish.” They understand its all about total value of the franchise and they also know that every team has the same amount of guaranteed money. They ALSO know that Flacco was selected 18th overall and totally outplayed his rookie deal beyond belief. The deal is a win-win for both sides. Now if you wanna talk down about the franchise, let me say this. THE RAVENS have controlled this situation to a tee since day 1 and have a SB ring to prove it.

    Hail Bischotti

  17. The same people bleating “Jump Ball Joe” readily claim Big Ben is elite due to his two rings, but in one more postseason game, Ben has more than double the picks and only one more TD, a lower QB rating and no MVPs. Elite is certainly a matter of opinion, but Joe didn’t “luck” his way into a ring with 11 TDs and no picks, and his championship wasn’t tainted by a 22.6 QB rating.

  18. ppl still hating on Joe Flacco, the kid is a winner & he has proved it so get off his back.

  19. Turns down an extension over 1 million dollars in the final year in a sport where QBs go down to injury what seems to be every week and calls the TEAM stupid?

    Negotiates a deal with only 3 years of security and calls the TEAM stupid?

    Sounds to me like there is plenty of stupid to go around.

  20. Way to go!!!!Millions of raven dollars spent for future mediocrity. Way to take them to the cleaners, joe!!! Don’t forget to enclose a nice check to the broncos starting free safety for their debacle in the playoffs last year.

  21. Dumb? Flacco was one Jacoby Jones reception from being $20 million dollars lighter in the pocket. Instead of saying dumb, Linta should keep his mouth shut and send a nice check to Broncos’ FS, Rahim Moore who terribly misplayed the last TD.

  22. Yeah, like the Ravens could have foreseen the total fluke LUCK that Flacco enjoyed last year, from the one-yard-dumpoff on 4th and 29 in San Diego, to the Hail Mary fluke TD that was simply the Denver defense mentally breaking down. Had it not been for Jones returning the opening second-half kick in the Bowl for a TD, Flacco goes down as the architect of the biggest COLLAPSE in Super Bowl history. Flacco got bailed out time and time again — the whole season was a fluke. He owes half his contract to Boldin, who turned all his jump-ball jokes into catches. (Having Boldin for his contract year was yet another amazing piece of luck for Joe Fluke-o.)

    The Ravens were simply trying to pay Flacco for what he is — a so-so, OK, decent QB. But then, the “miracle run” happened. And thanks to everything just falling into place for the “MVP”, they had to end up paying franchise-QB-level money. Flacco’s agent would be wise to run with the money he banked, and keep his mouth shut. Before more people start pointing out how lucky his client got this year.

  23. All the people here saying Flacco won’t win another Super Bowl – please, shut up! You’re the same fools who said he wouldn’t win one in the first place. How did that turn out? Now that Cameron is not holding him back, (or receivers not dropping game winning passes) expect much more. If that’s true what that leech agent says about a million apart I would have to agree that’s dumb (in hindsight of course.)

  24. The Ravens were lacking brain cells for sure, but Flacco relied on his receivers to get that championship, then he threw the better one under the bus last week, not smart, it lacks in smarts because now, you took all the dough and the credit for that win.
    I’m wondering if the game wasn’t in N.O. would the niners have lost it? Somehow I’m thinking it was a Louisiana thing against the 49ers. For Eddie D. Bashing over the Gambling thing!

  25. Two rings does make Big Ben elite something Flacco will never sees unless he has another free safety fall down in the playoffs with 30 seconds left in a playoff game.

  26. Not a 29 mil cap hit. 6.7 this coming season. Year 4 is when the cap hit gets big. 1st three years are very cap friendly. Before you talk about how his contract is killing the team, know what you’re talking about….

  27. Hey Linta – I bet you think you really stuck it to Ozzie with these scathing remarks in a national newspaper. I bet you can’t wait for his response. Only thing is, you and I know that Ozzie could care less about what a 2-bit agent thinks so that response will never happen. He’s a hall of famer in two fields for a reason. Keep waiting for the Wiz’s rebuttal jerk….

  28. Joe Linta is right but he should be fired by Flacco and have his teeth kicked in by Newsome.

    The Ravens are above this type of press. It’s bad enough there are so many idiots that think they’re a worse team this year, or that Flacco’s contract harms them in some way.

    What a schmuck.

  29. Let me get this straight … you have a QB named RG3 who is the greatest QB of all time without winning a playoff game and then you have Flacco who won a SB … is a bum.

    Football fans have to be the dumbest sports fans in the world!

  30. No they weren’t…..the Ravens Won The Super Bowl.

    They made Joe prove himself and he stepped up like a Champ!…and got paid like a Champ!

  31. OK steelcurtainn, when Joe wins his next ring while throwing 2 picks on his way to a 22.6 QB rating, will you be ready to label him elite?

    And ampatsisahypocrite has been proven wrong once again with this 11 TD, o INT, Super Bowl MVP performance, so just like Lamarr Woodley, I welcome any future predictions. Keep ’em coming!

  32. Front offices make what seem like dumb moves all the time just because you never know if the player will truly pan out. With that said, over one million dollars? THAT is stupid!

  33. Linta is hardly a schmuck when he landed a great deal for his client. He might regret talking about the ravens that way, but as you can see it is very popular to trash the least respected SB champs in recent memory. Smh

  34. This is pure spin by this agent. Without all that good luck in the post-season (and a miracle play to get to the post season), Flacco would likely have been forced to sign for *less* than the original offer, and then who would have been the “dumb” one who gave up a solid offer just because of a measly million dollars of non-guaranteed money late in the contract?

    Linta: You got lucky this time. You better hope that next time you try this and it fails the GM in question doesn’t turn around and rub it in your face the same way you have just done. And by the way, your client is not entitled to an extra $1 million dollars just because it is like “100 bucks” to the owner. He only gets that money if he’s worth it.

  35. Wow, they really got fleeced. Won the Superbowl, and will make untold millions off promoting it, ticket sales, jersey sales, etc.

    What a bunch of dummies.

    I’d take Ozzie running my team any day of the week.

  36. For all you haters please realize this contract has nothing to do with current cap and its really a three year contract with 50 mill guaranteed which is the same as many others. Just remember he has won more games than any qb over the past five years with three afc championships two division titles and a Super Bowl. no one has that resume over the past five years no one

  37. You guys are crazy Joe Flacco has won a postseason game in every year he has been in the league. And most of the years they have lost on a dropped pass. Mark Clayton, TJ , Lee Evans, and let’s not bring up 3rd and 15 against the Steelers. He has the strongest arm in the league, just ask opposing secondaries, how they have to change their angles in pursuit of the ball. Also he rarely turns the ball over unlike your beloved Jay Cutler, Tony Romo, and Eli Manning as well. Of course he is elite and with Jim Caldwell a full offseason the offense will surely change. It will be an offense that both Caldwell and Flacco will have a big say in. Unlike Cam Cameron’s my way or the highway attitude. Many of you guys sound like Skip Bayless and he loves him some Tebow. All he does is win, well J Flacco does that and then some so why the hate.

  38. I am pretty sure the dumbest move I have ever seen was giving Mark Sanchez that contract extension. Now the Jets can’t get rid of him if they wanted to unless they want to take a 17 million dollar cap hit.

    So the Ravens wait a year to sign a Quaterback that was average at best and they pay more money but just won a Superbowl. Even their dumb mistakes come out smelling like roses. If I am Flacco I am hiring a new agent because like Linta said, they will have to renegotiate in 3 years. So how do you think the Ravens are going to react when they sit down for contract talks? Also, if he hasn’t noticed, the Ravens have zero problem getting rid of players and seeing that they have made the playoffs 9 of the last 13 years and won 2 Superbowls they are usually correct.

  39. At the end of the day, when the chips are down, when all is said and down, when the clock strikes twelve, all joe flacco ever really wanted was to be paid what he is worth.

  40. Joe Flacco= Lightning in a Beer Bottle.

    He was consistently inconsistent for 4 years 10 months, then very good (and lucky) for 2 month and won a Super Bowl.

    I’d still rather have a dozen other qbs in the league, including those who haven’t won SB like Ryan, Stafford, and the 3 rookies from last year.

    Give him credit though -he won a Super Bowl. At best he’s a low-end Franchise QB but got paid like a top tier Superstud.

  41. This may have been a bad move by the Ravens, but not nearly as dumb as the Cowboys giving Romo such a huge deal.

  42. With Ed Reed and Ray Lewis gone, the Ravens will fall this season. The Steelers do have an Elite QB whose has played injured countless times. Everyone’s seen his last minute heroics in 2 super bowls and almost a 3rd if Blood Line’s sniffer would of pooped out. All I am saying is that the Ravens do good but the Steelers OWN that division the vast majority of the time. Big Ben is healthy, married, happy with a new kid. Troy is good and mentoring. There are a few new additions to the O-Line (FINALLY), The D is gettin polished up with Mr Labeau and this season it will be Steelers in the Post with the Ravens wondering why they paid so much for Flacko. Remember how they treated Dilfer? Karma will kick in, watch 🙂

  43. atbuzz
    Joe will never make it to elite status because he will never win another superbowl. Well unless, we have free safeties falling down with 30 seconds left in a playoff game or some other miraculous play. Big Ben was never that lucky or had much of an offense line(like joe) and still has 1 more ring. To answer your question, Id give Flacco elite status if he could do that. I highly doubt it, gonna have to prove me wrong or I just have to consider him lucky. A couple games against a weak ne defense and a San Francisco team after a Denver debacle(and losing 4 out of your last 5 games) is not the meaning of elite.

  44. Flacco is indeed an Elite QB. And has been for quite awhile. The problem was with former offensice coordinator Cam Cameron. He kept a tight reign on JF and it showed. Exit CC enter Jim Caldwell, he takes the cuffs off Flacco and gives him more flexibility to be involved in the play call and ‘whammo’ the results speak for themselves.

  45. Wow, what a piss-poor article.

    1. Ravens didn’t “loose” Ellerbe, Reed and Boldin because of Flacco’s deal. Flacco’s deal is actually pretty team-friendly in year’s 1 & 2. In fact, Flacco is only $7 Mil. against the cap next season; the same as he was last season.

    2. Ravens were actually set to pay Ellerbe. Unfortunately, he took Miami’s deal without giving the Ravens a chance to match their offer. The Ravens used the money they didn’t give Ellerbe and ended up spending it on Dumervil.

    3. Ravens didn’t “loose” Reed. They let him walk. They didn’t even bother offering him a deal. Yes, he’s a future HoFer, but he hasn’t been healthy in years. He also has no problem seeing outside doctors and having surgeries without letting the team know. Houston has already found this out before he’s even suited up for them.

    4. Again, team didn’t “loose” Boldin. They wanted him to restructure and he wouldn’t budge. Also, while this isn’t ‘official’, it’s not a big surprise that he’s gone in the same here that Ray Lewis retires, Reed hits Free Agency and both Pollard and Oyanbadejo are cut. That’s 5 of the most vocal players in the locker room. Only outspoken player left is Suggs and he’s in the middle of a long term deal; can’t cut/move him without taking a significant cap hit.

    5. No, the Ravens don’t care about the almost-$30 Mil. cap hit in year four. They’ll renegotiate the deal and, by then, the cap should be taking a significant jump from the new TV deal. They’ll easily be about to redo Flacco’s deal, re-sign what players they need to and add a FA or two.

    6. Linta came off as a jerk throughout this whole process and these comments do nothing to change that. It’s probably worth noting that Flacco is his only client of significance and this is the first time Linta has had to work on a deal this big. He now seems to be going out of his way to make sure the Ravens never draft/sign a player he represents again.

    The only comment worth taking away from this article is that the Ravens should have resigned Flacco before last season; plain and simple.

    The team gambled and Flacco won.

  46. The Ravens are one of the most cunning and calculated franchises in the league when all things are equal and amicable. Imagine how you’ll be treated when you’re playing it fast and loose with your words and deliberately embarassing them in public (regardless of whether you’re right)?

    My guess is either Linta is already calling in favors to journalists trying to walk back the damage in this article, or he’s standing his ground and has just picked a fight that’s gonna result in considerable heartache for him for years to come.

    It’s sad really, cuz he did rather well using the media during the negotiations. Getting undisciplined and thumping your chest against the wrong guys will not go unaddressed.

  47. By calling the Ravens “dumb” you can bet the re-negotiation won’t start well. These people are paying his client a fortune. That’s how he gets paid. What a loudmouth! Was he drinking?.

  48. Michael Vick wins nothing, yet every jig in the NFL signs up to play on his team. Joe Flacko wins a Super Bowl, and they all can’t get away fast enough. Talk about dumb.

  49. “I’m not apologetic for the fact this is really a three-year deal, there’s no way they can afford $29 million a couple of years from now,” Linta said.

    Gotta like an agent who tells it like it is for a change.

  50. Guy just tossed the ball up for anyone to grab. I know its hard for most to admit it because obviouslly you dont want to look dumb, but ravens got lucky. Their team had no buisness winning or even getting to the superbowl. But they did and they won. Joe flacco still sucks. And im looking foward to everyone seeing it this year that he is nothing more than an average QB.

  51. Considering the Ravens won the Super Bowl and all, I can’t consider not signing Flacco last year dumb. If he had signed, how differently would he have played? His desire to play well and land that contract certainly was a factor.

    You can call his new contract dumb if you want. You might successfully argue 1 or 2 QBs in the league are worth that money, but Flacco isn’t one of those QBs.

  52. No-one threw a better ball than Joe Flacco last year. What no-one lets the reigning SB champ QB walk!

    Y’all crazy… or maybe

    49’ers fans still lobbying lol and with that bad taste in their mouths.

    pathetic. What the agent said is in hindsight the Ravens should have extended his contract back when they had the chance. For a paltry extra million. That is a shot at the Ravens management, and a little advice and warning not to doubt him again if you will.

  53. This article is ridiculous! This is exactly like calling anyone who didn’t bet on the Ravens to win the Superbowl in August of 2012 an idiot. It is easy to make that call now but I would say the Ravens head office based their decision on Flacco’s history. I’m sure Joe was a little worried when Thanksgiving came and the Ravens started to sputter. Fortunately for Joe and the Ravens the team had already built a good enough record to carry them into the playoffs. The rest is history and Joe Flacco was a big part of the Ravens’ post season success.
    Now, for the question of Elite status, Flacco is the best QB the Ravens have ever had but that isn’t saying much. He showed some glimpses of brilliance in the post season but until he shows up every week and doesn’t make the cerebral mistakes that he has been guilty of in his career, he won’t make that jump from the second tier QB list.

    Is it August yet?

  54. Steelers’ fans think the Ravens were just lucky. Amazing how the Ravens went to the playoffs and won during Flacco’s rookie year. Just lucky? Then, they went to the playoffs and won the next year. More luck? Then they went to the playoffs and won the next year and the next year after that. Luck? Luck? Luck? So, after four consecutive winning playoff appearances, getting to the Superbowl and winning the very next year was also just luck? Why should Flacco bother negotiating a contract? A guy that lucky should just play the lottery. Poor Steelers’ fans. First, you’re a bunch of losers. Now, you’re officially crazy.

  55. Between Palmer going out early and Nick Harper falling down, your 2005 run is the definition of luck, steelers 4385. The Ravens 2012 run is pure domination in comparison.

  56. I am so glad that the truth came on a second rate team going around acting like their elite. Flucco contract was dumb it dose not take an experience agent to tell us that. Another great move The team from Cleveland. Go Cleveland Ravens.

  57. Dumb: fans pleading most of the season for the RB to get the ball more because of inept QB play, then calling their QB elite after some undeniable lucky bounces. Sounds pretty ridiculous when you spell it out.

  58. not a ravens fan but GEEZ, the guys has as many super bowl rings as peyton manning and aron rodgers, who are considered “elite” so give him a break.

  59. Joe Linta is a minor player going up against the big boys. Ozzie and Steve Bischotti have shown again and again that they will gladly let agents and players have meaningless bragging rights in the short term as long as the TEAM benefits in the long term.
    Bottom line:

    1) Flacco signed a back heavy deal that lets the team continue to take a small cap hit in exchange for Lil’ Boy Linta’s ability to brag about a 120 million fantasy. In reality, he got thrashed by letting the Ravens lease Flacco for 3 more years while determining whether to restructure at the 29 million cap hit. Any Ravens fan will tell you that we were stunned by Flacco’s 4 game streak……it was unlike any other 4 games in his career, and may not happen again.

    2) Signing Canty, Spears, Dumervil, Michael Huff, and having the best draft in a decade puts the Ravens in much better position than they were in last year at this time.

    3) In 8 months last year: Suggs tore his ACL, Haloti Ngata hurt his knee, we lost Jarett Johnson, Ray Lewis tore his bicep, Jameel McClain had a season ending neck injury, Lardarius Webb tore his ACL, Ed Reed tackled all season like his grandma, Terrence Cody stayed fat and slow, and the team mutinied and walked out on John Harbaugh after getting thrashed by the Texans.

    They won the Super Bowl.

    So shut the Hell up, Joe Linthead. You got lucky that Joe Flacco struck the lottery. The team held his butt up during a very mediocre regular season while YOU were puking in a bucket while Joe put up one TD against the Chargers, and handed the regular season home game to the Broncos with a rookie pick-6 to end the half.
    You didn’t suddenly get smart.

  60. steelers4385 says: May 27, 2013 12:18 AM

    Guy just tossed the ball up for anyone to grab. I know its hard for most to admit it because obviouslly you dont want to look dumb, but ravens got lucky.

    If anyone could grab the ball, then how is it only the Ravens players caught it? The only one looking dumb is your statement. For any team to win a SB you need several factors. Talent/skill, yes, some luck and the blessing of the Football Gods.

  61. I wonder why Linto is running his mouth?

    Things worked out to the best case scenario for him. Not sure the benefit he gets from the chest thumping and Ravens stick poking, other than he hacks off the Ravens front office.

    And, it could have easily gone the other way for him with the Ravens getting a better deal.

  62. still loving all the raven haters that have no clue what they are watching. everything good the ravens do is a result of a fluke or someone else’s mistakes. has it occured to you all that they are a good team. i would rather be “the worst team to win the super bowl” then “oh..we would have made the playoffs if not for a few bad plays and if wde HAD made it we would have won the whole thing”. as far as joe linta…pretty silly for him to be popping off.

  63. People here are wondering why Joe Linta would openly talk about this. My theory is he is embarassing the Ravens front office to gain leverage in talks with other clubs and other players. Imagine you are now in talks with Joe Linta. If the deal breaks down and the player goes on to have success, you know Joe Linta is going to talk to the media about what an idiot you were. Knowing that if you make a mistake it will become very public might intimidate you into negotiating less aggressively.

  64. Now you know why their known as Baltimorons, his receivers made him what he is & what do the Morons do,Cap Out & cut the REAL Super Bowl MVP Anquan Boldin .

  65. The agent is upset because he worked so hard on a contract extension to see the Ravens just throw it out over $1 million so now he is sticking it to the Ravens and telling them they should of signed him last year for a lot less. More power to the agent and Joe Flacco…. Go Patriots now !

  66. The agent Litno is probably fed up with the Ravens front office and is not thinking about future deals, Litno will stick it to them whenever he can

  67. rickhayden1 says: May 27, 2013 9:43 AM

    not a ravens fan but GEEZ, the guys has as many super bowl rings as peyton manning and aron rodgers, who are considered “elite” so give him a break.

    ***************************************************************************

    Okay then — to take it to the opposite extreme, do you consider Brad Johnson to be an “elite” quarterback? You’re oversimplifying the matter.

    Also, I’m not a fan of either Manning or the Colts, but I’d put down a month’s pay that several of those Colts teams would not have done nearly as well had they been led by Joe Flacco instead. The Colts did as well as they did because of Manning in terms of both his QB play and his leadership — one of the arguments against Flacco is that the Ravens could have done just as well with a lot of other people. When Flacco has performed poorly or inconsistently in the past (and it’s not hard to find instances of either in any given season), even Raven fans will often admit this once it’s clear that they can’t simply attribute it to their receiving corps, play calling, etc., etc.

  68. The JETS are going to be giving Mark Sanchez the same contract next year after they win the SUPERBOWL this season. Go JETS go!

  69. @buzz
    Of course, to bad its not going to happen. Somehow I don’t see any more free safeties falling down in the future!!!!!
    The 2005 or 2008 steelers superbowl run was anything but luck. Comparing Nick Harper and Palmer to the Ravens bomb is laughable. I guess you forgot about Troy Polamalu pick the refs overturned that should have secured the steelers/colts game handily. The Colts were lucky not the Steelers. This is hardly pure domination in comparison, lets be real here.

  70. Risk vs Reward, that’s the game of life, oh well! Elite QB? Well, you begin to spell that E-L-I Manning! no lol. Flacco deserves what he got, only the Ravens know if they blundered. Bottom line is this: are you happy with your product @ your purchasing price? I don’t think so considering the agent says a better bargain was to be had a year earlier, but that was blown by a $1M non guranteed dispute in the 6th and final year of the contract? Yeah, they blew it! They were banking on a so so season from him, really? Dude is consistent and you added weapons for him. Revisit in 3 yrs, lol

  71. Jumpball Joe got one on you. Ozzie “My FA signings are better than my draft picks” Newsome got fleeced.

  72. My guess Joe Linta’s career will be short lived. Money is power in the NFL. Steve B. & The Ravens have a lot more than Linta. Future Ravens will be wise NOT to select Linta as their agent.

  73. Kind of ironic. The salary cap was instituted to try and maintain some parity among the 30 teams. Now the owners go out and slit each other’s throats trying to sign the best free agents available. Defeats the entire theory, since the rich teams certainly have more money to throw around than the cash-strapped franchises. Then the same “haves” complain about the penalty for being over the cap.
    Easy answer-each team has an absolute cap on total payroll…no exceptions, no waivers. You want to pay 20 million for a QB, then suffer the consequences of an inferior defensive line or secondary. To eliminate the manoeuvrings of escalating clauses, teams must use the average salary over the life of the contract…that way, teams can’t backload the salary until the last year of the contract. Would create a level playing field and cut out the scheming agents!

  74. “Let’s put it this way: If Flacco hadn’t completed that miracle throw to Jacoby Jones in the AFC divisional playoff game in Denver, the Ravens probably could’ve signed him to a deal that averaged $16 million per season.” – Jamison Hensley

    Your own hack admits that Joe is “Jumpball Joe”. Haha, I love it.

  75. Some may not agree that 28 yr. old Joe Flacco rates his new 6 year contract of 120.6 million, he did win a Super Bowl. But, most would agree that 33 yr. old Tony Romo does not rate his 7 year contract of 199.5 million, with no superbowl victory.

  76. Joemontanaflacco | May 27, 2013, 7:10 AM EDT
    Steelers’ fans think the Ravens were just lucky. Amazing how the Ravens went to the playoffs and won during Flacco’s rookie year. Just lucky? Then, they went to the playoffs and won the next year. More luck? Then they went to the playoffs and won the next year and the next year after that. Luck? Luck? Luck? So, after four consecutive winning playoff appearances, getting to the Superbowl and winning the very next year was also just luck? Why should Flacco bother negotiating a contract? A guy that lucky should just play the lottery. Poor Steelers’ fans. First, you’re a bunch of losers. Now, you’re officially crazy.

    Funniest post by you troll….pot meet kettle. Those having watched more than just last season know all too well that you have to be a combination of good and lucky to win a SB. To deny that is absurd…ravens deserved to win because they maximized their luck at the right time.

  77. jb..show me where it says in the article what you claim it says. what the article said is that had the ravens not won the sb joe would have been signed for less. im sure the ravens are ok paying our sb mvp every penny. as far as your claims of ozzie not being able to draft…thats just flat out ridiculous. i gave you a list of ravens sb starters for free agents. to refresh your memory the fa’s were boldin mckinney birk pollard and graham. so as usual you have no clue what your are talking about. enjoy your medicore team

  78. Another case of an average – good QB with a Great Defense. He will be useless and forgotten in 2 or 3 years.

  79. I am confused here please explain how one man can be the entire team. Not one bit of credit getting Flacco that money was ever given credit I suppose he could have won the game with no other players on the field. If this is the case the Ravens need only one player.. This is a very good example to give our young upcoming players today. “Only on player is needed to play” a game that has 10 defensive players you need to worry about stopping you from the other side. You don’t need anyone to catch the ball or rush it. Flacco’s other and true identity must be the “FLASH” so look out DC Comics there may be an infringement rights issue here. Flacco doesn’t even have charisma or any people skills how can he alone draw fans to the stadium. Even Tebow has some charm and gives credit to a higher authority. There is no humility here by Flacco or the Ravens. They should have signed him for the cool Mil last year every team wastes that much for cheerleaders even. Look at those girls btw, Flacco should donate some of that money for Jenny Craig to get the ladies in shape.
    The next step is Bud Wiser who are more realistic and will choose Braxton Miller, from The Ohio State University, over Flacco for their ads. Flacco was just lucky there was a good team also connected with the game like TEBOW did once, just once. In music they call this a “One Hit Wonder”

  80. Enjoy 8(Including Chris Canty, a bum) new starters on defense and no Boldin to bail Jumpball out. Joe will be “Dump down” Joe soon because Torrey Smith will be negated as your #1 WR. Trust me, Ozzie “Never saw a FA I didn’t like” Newsome has available/soon to be available WR’s on speed dial. Enjoy starting the season on the road with that defense. 8 new starters in case you neglected to read it. HAHA

  81. You neglected Jacoby Jones. Without him you have NOTHING!!! Ozzie’s top FA grab. He can’t draft WR’s or DB’s. Webb is done. Torrey Smith will meet the reality when he’s the #1. His body won’t be able to handle it.

  82. Well its just my opinion but calling an organization ‘stupid” is not the smartest thing either. And since most people would call Brady
    (since he comes to mind) one of the “elites”, I don’t think Flacco is quite there yet. Maybe he will. But he isn’t there yet. Even Eli has a couple under his belt and will probably win another one before he calls it quits. Just my opinion of course.

    Also I think Flacco should have shared that MVP award with his receivers, maybe Boldin. Some of those catches were great and if not for the effort made by them (as well as a very fair defensive secondary) the game might have turned out very different. But it is what it is.

  83. I’m not quite sure Joe Linta isn’t an idiot for calling out the Ravens. I’m sure he’ll have to sit down face to face with Ozzie again and Ozzie will not forget these words. I would hate to be a client/player of his, on the Ravens and not Joe Flacco. Ask Drew Rosenhaus and Jared Gaither…

  84. Funny comments. Flacco was lucky. Yeah he was, for five straight years with playoff apperances and wins. I mean you got to be lucky to have 2 AFCCG appearances and Super Bowl Championship your first 5 seasons. And what might have happened had Lee Evans held onto the ball in New England..
    He had a great defense bail him out? Ahhh, did anybody even watch that defense last year? They cost the Ravens at least 2 games. It wa sso great Ozzie went out and rebuilt it this off season.
    Is Flacco elite? I don’t know. But it’s kinda funny Matt Ryan is now said to be elite after he won his first, and only, playoff game in 5 years..
    Keep the laughs coming, especially you steeler fans who’s heads are still exploding. I can’t wait for another steelerless playoff this year..

  85. Ellerbe is overrated, Reed is past his prime. The only major loss was Boldin. But the Ravens are actually in better shape than last year, I think. They’ll be right back in the thick of things again. As for Flacco’s contract, last year, he was still unproven. Why sign an unproven QB long term. Sure, he cost them more, but that’s market value for a superbowl winning QB in his contract year. Not a dumb move IMO. That said, the Niners are the best team in football and I look for these two teams to meet again in the Super Bowl, this time the lombardi going to SF.
    GO NINERS!

  86. JBSteeler:
    I know its fun to diss the Ravens, just like we diss the Steelers. But be serious. The “jump balls” you talk about, and the Jacoby’s grab over Rahim Moore were just part of a Super Bowl Destiny season.
    The best team rarely wins the SB, its the team who gets hottest at the right time. The 2005 Steelers were 7-5 and sputtering, caught fire, and ran the table. Remember Bettis’s fumble at the 1 yd line, scooped up and returned the other way only to be stopped by a shoe string grab by Big Ben? How about all those referee calls that went your way in the Super Bowl that head referee Bill
    Leavy (a Pittsburgh guy) admitted cost the Seahawks the game?
    What about Kurt Warner throwing a 99 yd pick to Harrison with no time on the clock? Or Big Ben’s “jump ball” to Santonio Holmes to win the game?

    Every SB season hinges on those once in a million plays. Ask David Tyree, or Wes Welker, or Eli Manning, or Manningham, or Lee Evans, or Billy Cundiff etc etc etc.

  87. I hate the Steelers I hope the Ravens always beat the Steelers … Joe Flacco is by far a better QB than lethargic Big Ben

  88. jb….tell me again how the steelers did last year and what they did to improve. i know you are ravens obsessed because you know they are better than the steelers. the ravens are one of the top drafting teams in the league. you are right…wideout has been an issue. kind of like running back and o line has been for pitt. we are the reigning champs. you are hoping your once good qb(who takes regular beatings on this very site by his own fans…so sad) can revert to form and throw to…to…well whos he throwing to, assuming he has time behind that swiss cheese oline. cant wait for dumervill suggs ngata and the rest to show your weak, cant score more than 23 point offense up

  89. rvnmaniak | May 27, 2013, 3:10 PM EDT
    JBSteeler:
    I know its fun to diss the Ravens, just like we diss the Steelers. But be serious. The “jump balls” you talk about, and the Jacoby’s grab over Rahim Moore were just part of a Super Bowl Destiny season.
    The best team rarely wins the SB, its the team who gets hottest at the right time. The 2005 Steelers were 7-5 and sputtering, caught fire, and ran the table. Remember Bettis’s fumble at the 1 yd line, scooped up and returned the other way only to be stopped by a shoe string grab by Big Ben? How about all those referee calls that went your way in the Super Bowl that head referee Bill
    Leavy (a Pittsburgh guy) admitted cost the Seahawks the game?
    What about Kurt Warner throwing a 99 yd pick to Harrison with no time on the clock? Or Big Ben’s “jump ball” to Santonio Holmes to win the game?

    Every SB season hinges on those once in a million plays. Ask David Tyree, or Wes Welker, or Eli Manning, or Manningham, or Lee Evans, or Billy Cundiff etc etc etc.

    It’s very rare when a raven fan says anything profound or borderline intelligent let alone unbiased, but your post is right on the money. Both steeler and raven fans need to read and heed.(in the case of raven fans go to the library and have someone there read it to you)

  90. Steelers got extremely lucky in SBs XL and XLIII through a combination of opposing team blunders, wobbly desperation checkdowns, and Hail Mary style jump balls. Even the refs in SB XL say the Steelers were mistakenly handed that one by the officials. Conversely, Flacco has been consistently building to where he is today. Consistency is not luck. It’s the product of hard work, talent, smarts, and determination. Steelers will never understand that. Goes against their allergic-to-work-ethic.

  91. The ravens aren’t going anywhere next year.
    Luck,as the Denver game won’t occur twice in two years anyways. Historically odds are against them too. Its not like they was even close to being dominant. The steelers have a better chance at bringing in number 7. Ravens fans will learn the hard way. Just like the steelers did when they won their last 2 superbowls.

  92. buzzbeaubank says:
    May 26, 2013 6:00 PM
    And ampatsisahypocrite has been proven wrong once again with this 11 TD, o INT, Super Bowl MVP performance, so just like Lamarr Woodley, I welcome any future predictions. Keep ‘em coming!
    —————————————————-

    Just how have I been “proven wrong”? I notice you shy away from taking on any of my factual statements. Typical “hit and run” tactics by those who CAN’T argue with the facts.

    Do you deny that Flacco got away with total fluke luck on the dump-off to Rice in San Diego? Or do you normally expect a one-yard dump-off needing 29 yards to convert, to succeed?

    Do you deny Flacco loses to crippled Leftwich (and the Ravens get swept by the Steelers) if not for Jones returning that punt, when Flacco totally fizzled?

    Do you deny the Ravens lose to Dallas after Flacco fades late, but Jones returns a kick to yet again bail out Flacco?

    Do you deny that Flacco’s Hail Mary heave to Jones was really more about a screw-up by Denver than anything else?

    Do you deny the Ravens lose the Bowl if not for Jones YET AGAIN bailing out the team with a TD return, considering Flacco put up a whopping SIX points in the second half?

    How am I “wrong” with any of the above? Please, I’d love to hear your answer.

  93. I didn’t know this post was about whether Joe is an elite QB, or not. I thought it was about an idiot agent, that probably had a few too many, spouting off something real stupid. And you doubters of Joe Flacco? You’re the same ones that have been making excuse for the last few years. “Luck” is your favorite term. The only thing different is there are less of you after each win.

  94. Pretty funny to hear a Steeler fan base that glorifies the “immaculate reception” rip the Ravens and Flacco for being “lucky”

  95. rvnmaniak says:
    May 27, 2013 3:10 PM
    JBSteeler:
    I know its fun to diss the Ravens, just like we diss the Steelers. But be serious. The “jump balls” you talk about, and the Jacoby’s grab over Rahim Moore were just part of a Super Bowl Destiny season.
    What about Kurt Warner throwing a 99 yd pick to Harrison with no time on the clock? Or Big Ben’s “jump ball” to Santonio Holmes to win the game?
    ————————————————-

    Dude you are not SERIOUSLY going to compare a perfectly placed 6-yard pass to win the Bowl to the long-range blind jumpers that Flacco heaved up. TELL me you’re kidding. ‘Cuz you have got to be joking. And if you watch the replay, Holmes never had to jump, just stretch.

    As for Harrison’s pick, that was skill on his part, as well as disguising and fooling Warner into thinking he’d rush, versus drop back. Again, skill, not luck.

    Toosoon dude — find me a single Steeler fan that doesn’t refer to the Immaculate Reception as the ultimate good fortune. That’s part of the lore. That’s a little different from Ravens fans, who don’t know blind dumb luck when they see it, and insist those plays Flacco made were somehow about his skills.

  96. ampatsisahypocrite says:
    May 27, 2013 10:33 PM

    Just how have I been “proven wrong”? I notice you shy away from taking on any of my factual statements. Typical “hit and run” tactics by those who CAN’T argue with the facts.
    ———————–
    Maybe I’m confusing you with another Steelers homer who was quick to claim Joe would never win a Super Bowl, but I doubt it. In that sense, and every other sense, you’re wrong. I also don’t see a shred of fact in your first post, only the kind of pathetic spin that’s steeped in a few months of denial of the fact that Joe Flacco is the current Super Bowl MVP. Ben will get another chance at a ring in 2013. I’m sure he’ll put up another 0 TD, 2 pick, 22.6 QB rating performance that will have you yelling “elite” from the rooftops.

  97. Not a “shred of fact” in my first post? Oh, so then the one-yard dump off fluke in San Diego never happened? Uh huh. You’re still avoiding my facts.

    Oh and nice job cherry-picking just the one Bowl, and ignoring the fact that Ben practically won the second Bowl on his own — something Flacco’s never done. Flacco’s disappearing act in the second half of the Super Bowl — leaving his teammates to decide the game — is really pretty “elite” in itself, huh? Two whole whopping field goals the second half, needing Jones to once again bail him out. Or else Joe presides over the biggest CHOKE in Bowl history. Yeah, some “MVP.”

  98. Why people keep bringing up Big Bens 22.6 qb rating in his 2nd year in the league and first superbowl is beyond me. Please explain the other 2 superbowls then? Doesn’t seem to me Big Ben did bad in either one of those and he single handedly won the arizona superbowl at the end of the game on his own. Lets see Big Ben 2-0 against Flacco in playoff games. 3-1 in superbowl appearances. Big Bens achieved more, and I dont care if he has been in the league longer. Like the poster said above, fluecko would have been the biggest choking qb ever if the 49ers close out the end of that game. IMO, I’m not taking anything away from Fluecko, he is a good qb at best, I laugh when people say he’s elite. We’ll see how elite he is this year.

  99. Considering the fact that 1:46 would have been on the clock after a Crabtree TD, I would think Steeler fans would agree that it would have been plenty of time for Joe to march down the field for a game winning TD. They’ve seen it first hand more than once.

    And ampatsisahypocrite, here’s why you’re wrong:
    ampatsisahypocrite says: Feb 3, 2012 7:16 PM

    You characters just don’t get it, do you… I have the right to talk all I want about Flacco because I am the one PROVEN right!

    I’ve told you guys for years, you will NEVER get to the Super Bowl with Flacco as your QB. And guess what — I’m right! Not only that, but I took a lot of static from all you Ravens fans who were so sure you’d just roll over New England. I took the crap, now I get to use it as fertilizer.

    Bottom line: I’m right, you’re not. That means I can talk about Flacco all I want. Because unlike Flacco and the right to go to the Super Bowl — I’ve earned it.

    Once again, the Ravens will NEVER get to the Super Bowl with Flacco.

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