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Geno Smith says he wasn’t “recruited” by Jay-Z

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The NFLPA is looking into the question of whether Jay-Z recruited Jets quarterback Geno Smith to sign with Jay-Z’s firm, Roc Nation Sports.  Specifically, the NFLPA wants to know if someone without NFLPA certification (i.e., Jay-Z) was involved in recruiting a player to sign with an NFLPA-certified agent (i.e., Kim Miale, who is employed by Jay-Z’s firm).

And so the player who apparently was recruited by Jay-Z is saying the predictable thing in the face of the probe.

Jay-Z didn’t recruit me,” Jets quarterback Geno Smith said Thursday, via Manish Mehta of the New York Daily News.

So who recruited Smith then?  Well, Smith didn’t say.

“I chose Roc Nation Sports for management because it was something that myself and my family came to a conclusion that we feel comfortable with,” Smith said.  “And I’m happy to be a part of it.  Here, I’m here to talk about football.  That’s life outside of football, and what I do in this locker room and on that field is what matters now.”

Basically, Smith is saying he wasn’t recruited by Jay-Z (despite the picture with Jay-Z that Smith posted on Instagram), but Smith is avoiding the question of who actually recruited him and opting not to talk about anything other than football.

Someone from Roc Nation Sports recruited Smith.  Someone from Roc Nation Sports met with Smith.  Someone allowed Smith and his family to reach “a conclusion that we feel comfortable with,” especially since Smith met with multiple agencies before hiring Roc Nation Sports.

So who was that someone?  Jay-Z?  Miale?  Someone else?

Smith may be able to avoid the questions posed by the media, but if he dances around those questions when talking to the NFLPA, the chances of getting the NFLPA to believe the perfunctory “Jay-Z didn’t recruit me” party line will be slim, at best.

And while that won’t result in any specific discipline for Smith or Jay-Z, it could make it hard for Miale to continue to represent Smith (or anyone else), and it could eventually prompt the NFLPA to prohibit certified agents from associating with Jay-Z.

None of this means that the “runner” rule should be applied to someone like Jay-Z.  There are important philosophical questions raised by this situation, and while some agents merely resent the encroachment of Jay-Z on their turf, others want to know if it’s fair game to use celebrities as “closers” when pursuing clients.

Those questions will never be addressed in this specific case if the only question is whether Jay-Z, Smith, and Miale are trying to conceal what really happened from the NFLPA.

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62 Responses to “Geno Smith says he wasn’t “recruited” by Jay-Z”
  1. skoobyfl says: May 30, 2013 2:10 PM

    Oh this young man has had a very trying rookie season, with the litigation, the notoriety, his subsequent deportation….

  2. Chris says: May 30, 2013 2:12 PM

    i hate geno smith.

    thats all.

  3. phiddysent says: May 30, 2013 2:13 PM

    Can someone…anyone…please remind me why I should care who the heck recruited him? In the grand scheme of things…does it matter? Geno’s an adult…Jay-Z is an adult…everyone working at Roc Nation are adults….Geno’s parents are adults. They all came to an agreement. End of story. Screw the NFLPA and their desire to control every aspect of the players.

  4. captainwisdom8888 says: May 30, 2013 2:13 PM

    “We just were chillin out one day, having some drinks, and I thought Jay-Z was a really cool dude. I thought to myself, man… you should be my agent.” *CHEERS*

    and that was that…

  5. dbones750 says: May 30, 2013 2:14 PM

    Yea, but what’s going on with Key and Bieber?

  6. ozymandias121 says: May 30, 2013 2:14 PM

    The J-E-T-S already regret this pick. Geno will do jack squat in the NFL.

  7. lobos539 says: May 30, 2013 2:15 PM

    This dude hasn’t even taken one meaningful snap yet in his brief NFL career and I already want him to go away for good!

  8. captaincanoe says: May 30, 2013 2:15 PM

    Snitches get stitches.

  9. lapistola5 says: May 30, 2013 2:18 PM

    Lets play spin the wheel of Who gets to be scapegoat!!!!!!! And the winner is……………………………..

  10. whatnojets says: May 30, 2013 2:24 PM

    Geno, with a donut in his hand, stated “I don’t like donuts, period and then said, “let’s talk football” while stuffing the donut into his mouth.

  11. jjpt4540 says: May 30, 2013 2:24 PM

    Next Jamarcus Russell

  12. ccjcsr says: May 30, 2013 2:29 PM

    I’ve got 99 problems and this ain’t one!

  13. cliffordc05 says: May 30, 2013 2:30 PM

    What are the important “philosophical questions” raised by this situation?

  14. bmoreravens1012013 says: May 30, 2013 2:33 PM

    Gino better perform on the field because all this notoriety and self promotion is putting the pressure on high.

  15. datrinity says: May 30, 2013 2:34 PM

    Hey Geno, you should have participated in the Senior Bowl, it might have helped you get into the 1st round

  16. buckybadger says: May 30, 2013 2:36 PM

    I don’t get the problem here. Every agency recruits their clients. That is how you get them. They all use tactics about glory and riches. I must be missing something here. It isn’t like this is college here.

  17. thesteelers says: May 30, 2013 2:37 PM

    Steeler Nation is the greatest nation.

  18. thestrategyexpert says: May 30, 2013 2:38 PM

    The NFLPA can believe whatever they want, but they can’t prove it. Trying to is harassment if they fail, which they will because the players in this game such as Smith are sticking to the rehearsed script. From a legal perspective that is, but that’s the game and the trap that Jay-Z has set up.

    And no you can’t use celebrity “closers”. That’s against the rules! Unless you use them and everybody agrees to lie and claim they were doing anything and everything except for anything that includes the word “recruiting” when describing what they are doing. Those guys are all out on those characterizations. They might not disagree with anything you accuse them of trying to do, just don’t accuse them of “recruiting” of all things, that’s the ONLY thing they aren’t doing for sure!

  19. DubZ480 says: May 30, 2013 2:38 PM

    This whole thing is silly and a game of symantics. Bottom line just by this agent works for Roc Nation implies that Geno will have access to Jay Z. Regardless of whether or not he “recruited” him. His fame did.

    The better question is what kind of deal will Roc Nation get Geno and will they prove they can legitimately compete as an agency.

  20. jetslakersfan says: May 30, 2013 2:39 PM

    Hey lobos

    So it Smith fault that the media is always looking for a story with the Jets? The media needs to spend more time on Seattle then the Jets. They have more serious off field stuff then the Jets.

  21. suchajoke says: May 30, 2013 2:39 PM

    I still don’t understand the problem with this whole Jay-Z thing…….If a player wants to choose an agency to represent them associated with Jay-Z or anyone else isn’t that their right?

    Seems like sour grapes to me by the old guard of agents

    Anyone have an answer?

  22. panamutt says: May 30, 2013 2:46 PM

    Well, Well
    Here we go again! Who Remembers the MASTER P – Ricky Williams Debackle

  23. beardinals says: May 30, 2013 2:50 PM

    Instant street cred…. which is where Geno will be in 3 years.

  24. freepretzels says: May 30, 2013 2:51 PM

    I don’t feel bad for the agents. I’m sorry, its a slimy bunch and they strike me as mad about new competition.

  25. thc850 says: May 30, 2013 2:55 PM

    Tim Tebow wasn’t the problem with the Jets circus last year, the NY Media is

  26. seaeagle707 says: May 30, 2013 3:05 PM

    Back in December, all of the pundits were telling us that the 2013 Draft was going to be devoid of any really stellar QB’s. 2012 had a bumper crop of them and the proof of that was seen during this past season.

    Only one QB went during the first round (thanks to superior skullduggery in Buffalo), and the rest of them have disappeared into the woodwork of the teams that took them. Of them, only Geno Smith has managed to keep himself on the national radar.

    Playing for a team with critical needs under center has seemingly given him the opportunities to remind us all of his superior greatness. Yet at the rate he’s going with his non-football playing issues, will he wear out his welcome in the NYC-area before he ever takes a snap? That’s the problem with keeping your big mouth open too long, people eventually want to see a larger-than-life presence when it comes time to do your job.

    God preserve him, if he doesn’t turn out to be one heck of a good QB, for GangGreen. When you get to the field at MetLife Geno, you won’t be able to bring Jay-Z with you. It’ll be you, that the whole world is watching. You’d better be good.

  27. denverbronconj says: May 30, 2013 3:09 PM

    Don’t u notice a pattern?

    I fired my ex agent after the NFL draft.
    Why? No comment..

    I wanted to get out of dodge after the 1st round and blabbed to an ESPN reporter.
    Why? No comment..

    I took a picture of myself with Jay-Z after announcing that I am being represented by Roc Nation.
    Did Jay Z recruit you? No comment…

    Who thinks Idzik and Ryan will be fired by next season?

  28. skinsfan28 says: May 30, 2013 3:09 PM

    Why hasn’t he just said “Kim Miale is my agent. She works for Roc Nation. End of story.”

  29. eaglesw00t says: May 30, 2013 3:10 PM

    None of this means that the “runner” rule should be applied to someone like Jay-Z. There are important philosophical questions raised by this situation, and while some agents merely resent the encroachment of Jay-Z on their turf, others want to know if it’s fair game to use celebrities as “closers” when pursuing clients.

    ——————-

    Thats a crock. Agents have been using celebrities to recruit new players and talent since the dawn of time. Its called “the agents other athletes”. Half of the players in the NFL use an agent or agency specifically because they were recommended by another player. And that other player is also considered a celebrity. That is a fact that cannot be denied.

    The reason all of these people are so upset, is because Miale has no other clients, right? Well how the heck is she supposed to get any clients, if everyone is so ticked off that she got one?

  30. granadafan says: May 30, 2013 3:21 PM

    Everything about the Jets screams circus and a clownfest. Don’t blame the NY media because the other NY/NJ team doesn’t have nearly the amount of circus-like atmosphere that the Jests do.

  31. whatnojets says: May 30, 2013 3:23 PM

    Hey Seaeagle!!

    The godamm best sentence ever! Lets’s eat a donut!

    “Only one QB went during the first round (thanks to superior skullduggery in Buffalo), and the rest of them have disappeared into the woodwork of the teams that took them”

  32. thestrategyexpert says: May 30, 2013 3:24 PM

    Oh and the Instagram picture wasn’t posted to incriminate themselves, it was posted to establish an image of who the real “boss-men” are in this nation. Jay-Z and Geno are bigshots and badasses that can do anything they want. That’s what they are selling to me.

    And other players that want to be known as hardcore playas should consider signing up with Miale. Plus you will get to meet Jay-Z since he just likes to witness everything Miale does and hang out and socialize while she’s doing her recruiting thing.

    There aren’t rules about being present while somebody else is legally doing the recruiting. As long as your mind is honestly free from intent to seek to recruit. That’s easy to do, it just takes will power.

  33. irishnativeson says: May 30, 2013 3:26 PM

    I don’t get it. Has anyone seen a picture of Kim Miale? She doesn’t need JayZ’s help recruiting clients.

  34. cpo187 says: May 30, 2013 3:29 PM

    Mark Sanchez keeps looking better and better…

  35. illiniftw says: May 30, 2013 3:30 PM

    The only issue here is that other agents are scared (and probably should be) that if Jay-Z and his team turn out to be even decent agents that they will be able to pick and choose most of the players he wants due to his connections, star power, and that a lot of today’s NFL players probably grew up listening to his music and want to be associated with him for the image.

    From the owners perspective it’s icing on the cake if they aren’t that good at negotiating contracts for top players

  36. swaggyy says: May 30, 2013 3:40 PM

    and someone said spend more time covering Seattle? They really dint have off field issues. 3 of the 6 PED users were bogus. Barbre and Taua (however you spell it, the RB) were tested positive BEFORE they’re even on the Seahawks. They were just suspended after they signed. Then were released. Moffitt has a prescription for his. There is plenty of teams out there with 3 or 4 guys suspended for PEDs recently, I’m not sure why Seattle is being singled out. The giants have 4. Go talk about that NY media.

  37. purplepride74 says: May 30, 2013 3:48 PM

    Have any of you seen Kim Miale’s picture? I have no problem believing she recruited Geno all on her own…

  38. eaglesw00t says: May 30, 2013 3:51 PM

    The only issue here is that other agents are scared (and probably should be) that if Jay-Z and his team turn out to be even decent agents that they will be able to pick and choose most of the players he wants due to his connections, star power, and that a lot of today’s NFL players probably grew up listening to his music and want to be associated with him for the image.

    From the owners perspective it’s icing on the cake if they aren’t that good at negotiating contracts for top players

    ——————-

    This is America, isnt it? Isnt this a capitolist country? Shouldnt players be able to choose a rapper to be their agent if they want?

    Personally, I would do the smart thing, and hire the agent that can get me the best deal for the lowest cost…but hey…if football players want a rapper to be their agent, there shouldnt be a damn investigation.

  39. mvp43 says: May 30, 2013 3:55 PM

    Bust of Epic porportions….

  40. 808raiderinparadise says: May 30, 2013 3:58 PM

    Just glad to see the Jets calmed down the media circus as always LOL from Sanchez, Tebow, Revis, Holmes, Cromartie … I could go on and on …. now Geno? Ugly stuff out there.

    Geno technically could be telling the truth, “Jay-Z” has many different names…

    Maybe “HOVA” recruited him?

    or “The ROC!”

  41. 69finfan says: May 30, 2013 4:05 PM

    He wasn’t recruited by Roc Nation/Jay Z. They advertised their services and Geno’s Camp selected them as the provider of said services.

  42. rcali says: May 30, 2013 4:37 PM

    So I guess they were exchanging food recipes in this picture?

  43. bigbenh8tr says: May 30, 2013 4:41 PM

    LIARRRRRRRRRR

  44. lobos539 says: May 30, 2013 4:47 PM

    jetslakersfan says:
    May 30, 2013 2:39 PM
    Hey lobos

    So it Smith fault that the media is always looking for a story with the Jets? The media needs to spend more time on Seattle then the Jets. They have more serious off field stuff then the Jets.

    It’s not Geno’s fault that the media is always looking for a story with the Jets. It’s Geno’s fault that he continues to talk and give them a story. I’m not saying Jay-Z recruited him, and I don’t care either way. I just think that Geno needs to keep his mouth shut for a while and focus strictly on football.

  45. 8bithero12 says: May 30, 2013 4:56 PM

    I really want this guy not to succeed in the NFL.

  46. spedman24 says: May 30, 2013 5:00 PM

    Clearly, this was always a non issue

  47. ghostofnflpresent says: May 30, 2013 5:10 PM

    Geno Smith will be the next great sideshow in the circus that is the Jets.

  48. fwippel says: May 30, 2013 5:10 PM

    I hate to say this, but Nolan Nawrocki’s assessment of Geno Smith (the one that outraged the football world) is starting to look pretty accurate.

  49. hatesycophants says: May 30, 2013 5:20 PM

    There are approximately zero “important philosophical questions” raised by this situation. Sorry, exactly zero.

  50. sepnasty says: May 30, 2013 5:21 PM

    I’ve read a lot of responses and so this is my answe, right or wrong.

    This is an issue because Smith chose an angency repped by Jay Z. Though Jay Z cannot negotiate his nfl contract. An unknown agent, within the nfl world, who has never negotiated an nfl contract, must now do so for Smith. The nflpa took issue with this because they are a Union. The Union wants to protect its player and make sure he benefits as much as possible with his contract.

    It is certainly Smith’s right to chose any agency he wants, this is just Smith’s Union going to work for him.

  51. zeke2517 says: May 30, 2013 6:21 PM

    This is not really interesting. I, for one, don’t care what this guy does when he’s not throwing footballs.

    Get paid if you can get paid, I mean.

  52. ratdogs says: May 30, 2013 7:07 PM

    The J-E-T-S are a Mess Mess Mess

  53. northstarnic says: May 30, 2013 8:26 PM

    So, on top of all his other missteps, Smith is opting for dishonesty in what could become a legal battle. Smart kid.

  54. officialgame says: May 30, 2013 8:40 PM

    Jay Z vacationing in Morgantown WV, I don’t thinks so.

  55. hvoigt21 says: May 30, 2013 9:22 PM

    Gino smith is an idiot. Every time he opens his mouth, he validates that statement.

  56. ncbengalmike says: May 30, 2013 9:29 PM

    suchajoke says:
    May 30, 2013 2:39 PM
    I still don’t understand the problem with this whole Jay-Z thing…….If a player wants to choose an agency to represent them associated with Jay-Z or anyone else isn’t that their right?

    Seems like sour grapes to me by the old guard of agents

    Anyone have an answer?

    _____________________________
    You forfeit any “rights” when you join the Union. It is bargained in the CBA and regardless of who is an adult or your rights everything is bargained and contractually obligated.

    It is simple the NFL markets a product based on team and not persona. JZ wants to market individual and not the ashiled.

    JZ will be gone from the NFL shortly

  57. johnnyb216 says: May 30, 2013 9:42 PM

    Well what did you think he was going to say?

  58. kenstabler says: May 30, 2013 10:01 PM

    God, this kid has never taken a snap in an NFL game and he just does not have common sense in his personal decisions. He was an embarrassment with his crying at the draft and wanting to go home to mother, and now he selects a media mogul non agent to be his agent, but says he was never recruited, but his mother approved and so he signed the contract.

    This kid will be scorched by the NY media because he does not know how to stay out of the media. He will never make it in NY, and I doubt the NFL.

  59. pdma7 says: May 30, 2013 10:23 PM

    As a Pat’s fan, you couldn’t make up stuff better than this.

  60. dynaco says: May 30, 2013 10:28 PM

    When in doubt, refer to Manish’s unamed sources.

  61. mythaimyke says: May 31, 2013 2:38 AM

    Geno is not only a NFL QB, but he’s a liar!

  62. malachiofcourse says: May 31, 2013 12:17 PM

    i’m sure jay just loves hanging out with bratty 21 year olds all the time…

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