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Favre has no regrets, but acknowledges “fault” in leaving Packers

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The Packers and Brett Favre are inching and lurching toward an inevitable reunion, with Favre returning to Lambeau Field as the prodigal son who is celebrated, not shunned.

Aaron Rodgers has openly supported a reconciliation.  CEO Mark Murphy has said the franchise needs Favre “back in the family.”

Favre has now weighed in, via a radio interview with WGR 550 in Buffalo.

“[T]he things that transpired that led to us ‘breaking up’ if you will, to me, are over and done with,” Favre said, via the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.  “When will that happen?  I don’t think either side is trying to push the issue . I think Mark Murphy — and Mark really came in the last few weeks of my career in Green Bay — he kind of came into a hornet’s nest if you will.  He’s been extremely great in trying to make this work.  In our discussions, it will happen.  I think both sides are genuine.  I know they are.  And that’s the way it has to come across because that’s the way it should be.  We don’t want to go out there waving to the crowd with our backs to each other.  And I don’t think that’s going to happen.”

Favre added that he “really [doesn't] hold any regrets” about his entire career, but he realizes that the final days in Green Bay were awkward and ugly.

“It is what it is,” Favre said.  “It’s over and done with.  I was at fault.  I feel that both sides had a part in it.  If you could go back would I or them have done things differently?  I’m sure both sides would.  But you can’t.”

He’s right that both sides were at fault.  Favre’s annual indecision about retiring compelled the team to draft Rodgers in 2005, and after three years on the bench the Packers were ready to use him.  So the Packers, instead of cutting Favre or trading him in the offseason, pushed Favre for a definitive answer as to his plans for 2008 in February, knowing that if pressed for an answer in any February his answer would be, “I’m done.”

And then the Packers hoped to create an outcome in which Favre played neither for them nor anyone else — especially not in the NFC North.  The Packers, once it became clear Favre wanted to play after the calendar reached the months when his desire typically returned, set up a clumsy showdown, forcing Favre to show up and putting him on the sidelines and ultimately engineering a trade to anywhere but Minnesota.

Which of course made Favre even more determined to play for the Vikings and stick it to the Packers.  Which he did in 2009, sweeping his former team.

But Green Bay had the last laugh.  After watching Favre’s Vikings blow a chance at getting to the Super Bowl, the Packers swept Brett in 2010 amid embarrassing revelations about his alleged texting habits — and then won the Super Bowl without him.

So, yes, both sides were at fault and, yes, the Packers and Favre need to publicly reconcile, not via sound bites but from the middle of the 50 yard line at Lambeau Field.

The problem is that, with the cover that comes from being in a crowded stadium, there will be plenty of boos.  Enough to be heard.  And the only thing that will make them less audible will be the passage of time.

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  1. albertmn says: Jun 7, 2013 8:26 AM

    I dislike the Packers, and Favre has had many issues on the field and off. But, he is a HUGE part of their legacy and EVENTUALLY will be brought back into the fold and most Packer fans will forgive any transgressions and accept him.

  2. daburgher says: Jun 7, 2013 8:29 AM

    I think Favre has done enough for that team, that the fans should show their appreciation, despite an “ugly breakup”

  3. hansenbrothers says: Jun 7, 2013 8:32 AM

    Never really thought this would all get smoothed out, but it sounds like its close. Guess I better dig my Favre stuff outta the closet.

  4. ZakGilbertTributePosterVerified says: Jun 7, 2013 8:35 AM

    The booing fans need to understand that without Favre the Packers wouldn’t be what they are today (a perennial Super Bowl contender every season). Because if it wasn’t Favre, who would have been the Packer QB from 1992-2007? And would that QB (or more likely QB’s) been as successful. I’d venture to say no. Aaron Rodgers even admitted that he benefitted from sitting and watching Favre do his thing.

  5. jack3dsd says: Jun 7, 2013 8:36 AM

    Packer fans aren’t like that, he won’t be showered in boos. Lord Favre is welcome back at any time

  6. greymares says: Jun 7, 2013 8:38 AM

    Brett who ?

  7. fwippel says: Jun 7, 2013 8:39 AM

    I never understood why this was such a big deal, and why it was so surprising that Favre left Green Bay.

    The Packers drafted Aaron Rodgers in the first round of the 2005 draft, in large part because they knew that Favre was nearing the end of his career. Favre decides he wants to keep playing for a couple more years, so what are the Packers supposed to do? Sit their top draft pick and QB of the future for the first five-six years of his career? Uh, no.

    Yeah, Favre went to the Vikings and had one good year and one forgettable year. I don’t blame either side for what they did.

  8. theoriginalbvan says: Jun 7, 2013 8:42 AM

    Stay away brINT!

  9. seabreezes51 says: Jun 7, 2013 8:51 AM

    Try a couple of smoochies.. A little season long support that is low profile coming from Brett and an off season of hospital visits and he would be welcomed back as a local hero… A little PR goes a long way.

  10. eagleswin says: Jun 7, 2013 8:52 AM

    I really believe it pretty much Favre and Favre alone that was responsible.

    No organization can plan around a player who annually retires and not come up with a plan to replace him no matter how valuable.

    There was not a single player in the league who craved attention more than Favre and that’s ultimately why he came back every year. The attention which people like John Madden were happy to provide nonstop 24/7. I swear Madden wanted to have Favre’s love child.

    Along with the attention whoring came an ego as big the great outdoors. He needed to stick it to the packers so his ego would be satisified. The Packers did not try to stick it to Favre. They were trying to protect themselves against a potentially embarrassing situation.

    I seem to remember Favre calling up the Lions and giving them inside info on the Packers the year after they traded him.

    Let’s gloss over just how much of a donkey’s behind that Favre was so that he can be remembered fondly instead of the truth.

  11. wideright91 says: Jun 7, 2013 8:59 AM

    The best thing about that interview is that he said you can bid on a great trip where proceeds benefit Jim Kelly’s foundation. You can bid on a hunting trip with Jim Kelly and Brett Farve!

  12. zoellner25 says: Jun 7, 2013 8:59 AM

    Mike, I think Favre’s age also “compelled the Packers to draft Rodgers in 2005″. His persistent waffling on retirement just made it worse. The Packers also didn’t set up a clumsy showdown. He flew into town on a private jet right before a family scrimmage night to create a circus out of the whole situation and put the spot light on him. Look at me, Brett is that kind of guy. So glad its over, but the Packers did what every pro sports team should do, put the betterment of the team ahead of one star diva with only himself in mind. And the payoff, we still have the best QB in the NFL.

  13. 6ball says: Jun 7, 2013 8:59 AM

    .

    ”so, yes both sides were at fault ”

    I don’t see any fault with the Packers actions. What reasonable alternative options were available?

    That dog don’t hunt.

    .

  14. hscorpio says: Jun 7, 2013 9:00 AM

    Favre turned his name to mud among the vast majority of Packer fans. The Packers mistakes in the breakup pale in comparison to Favre’s mistakes. The debate is settled among all but the most ardent Favre acolytes in the Packers fanbase.

    I’ve been saying all along that nothing will happen until Favre begins to strike a conciliatory tone. Some Favre toadies would cheer him on no matter what but most Packer fans need him to clearly acknowledge his wrongdoing before they’ll be ready to forgive. He has to admit that he was engaging in a full scale assault on the organization that treated him well for a lot of year.

    I had not seen much of that to date. This is definitely a step in the right direction.

  15. hscorpio says: Jun 7, 2013 9:03 AM

    ZakGilbertTributePosterVerified says: Jun 7, 2013 8:35 AM

    The booing fans need to understand that without Favre the Packers wouldn’t be what they are today (a perennial Super Bowl contender every season). Because if it wasn’t Favre, who would have been the Packer QB from 1992-2007?
    ========================

    1992-2007 has little to do with the team on the field in 2013. So it’s nonsense to suggest they owe their status today to Favre.

    However, to directly answer the question you posed: Mark Brunell, then Matt Hasselbeck. Neither of those 2 were as good as Brett Favre but both won a lot of games in their own right.

  16. greyhawk9 says: Jun 7, 2013 9:12 AM

    any true fan of the sport considers Favre a packer regardless of how everything ended in green bay.

  17. twonis says: Jun 7, 2013 9:13 AM

    I was one of the people who made the switch to the Rodgers bandwagon right when it happened and I don’t regret it at all.

    That being said, Welcome Back Brett. Thanks for all the memories. The very fact that Brett would recognize that he was partially to blame for how messy a divorce it was allows me to feel good about moving on.

    Greatest Packer QB of all time…for now. When the dust settles it’s probably going to be Rodgers.

  18. Troll_toll says: Jun 7, 2013 9:13 AM

    oh alright…*arms stretched out*…come on over here big guy. digging my 4 jersey out this weekend…from the dark, dark, closet that I thought it would remain for all eternity.

  19. hodag54501 says: Jun 7, 2013 9:18 AM

    I posted this in the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel this morning:
    Something to consider: if the Packers organization, presumably Mark Murphy and by default, Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy, have no problems welcoming Brett back to Green Bay, why should the fans? The folks who still hold spite for Favre are like the kids who are crying about something that happened at school years ago. At some point the mature thing to do(as evidenced by the leaders in the organization we follow) is to say ‘what’s done is done’ and move on. Favre didn’t do himself any favors when he left Green Bay, it’s true, but grownups eventually learn how to play nice.

  20. filthymcnasty1 says: Jun 7, 2013 9:18 AM

    Why would he regret those tastefully done cellphone pics?

  21. chi01town says: Jun 7, 2013 9:18 AM

    I remember seeing signs all over Wisconsin. ” Farve is god ” then the whole thing went south when the packers
    turned they back on him. Farve made it to Minnesota and beat the packers just like he wanted too and he should retire with the VIKINGS

  22. Carl Gerbschmidt says: Jun 7, 2013 9:18 AM

    Good enough for me, welcome back.

  23. 989lions says: Jun 7, 2013 9:19 AM

    It’s not going to be a popular opinion but I’ve never liked Favre and never will. As a football fan I can respect his talent and some great performances I saw him put on (MNF after his dad died). But this guy was selfish and arrogant, yet still got all the love from media because “look at how much fun he’s having out there.” He played 8 games with a torn bicep, thats not being tough thats being dumb and hurting your team to extend your own personal streak. And we haven’t even started discussing “Favre Watch” I blame ESPN for 50% of my dislike for him. Nothing like breaking news with Ed Werner reporting that Favre is in the backwoods of Mississippi throwing a football to high school kids, nobody cares. Glad you’re gone Favre.

  24. farmmbig says: Jun 7, 2013 9:20 AM

    There isn’t a more obnoxious fanbase in the entire Sports Globe. They actually believe God loves their team above all others…..And once Favre left, he started doing th Devil’s work.

    It’s still just a game people.

  25. destructicus says: Jun 7, 2013 9:29 AM

    No! Absolutely not!

    Long ago I promised myself I wouldn’t read any more articles on Favre retiring or which team he was leaving/going to. No more Favre ramblings!

    I’m out. I’m done. Can’t do it. Won’t do it.

  26. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Jun 7, 2013 9:29 AM

    So the best player in Green Bay history’s fondest desire was always to play for their biggest rival. What’s the big deal?

  27. greenmeattruck says: Jun 7, 2013 9:33 AM

    It’s very simple…. 4 X 3 = 12. Suck it Brent!

  28. farvite says: Jun 7, 2013 9:38 AM

    Music to Packer homers ears, who refuse to believe the organization had anything at all to do with the divorce.

    Thankfully the team and Favre appear near some kind of reconciliation.

  29. theseacidwords says: Jun 7, 2013 9:42 AM

    Blow a chance to go to the Superbowl? More like the refs looked the other way while the Saints rained late hit after late hit on Favre. It was one of the NFL’s WWE moments. And I realize it was a good story for the NFL, but that doesn’t change the fact that anyone who watched that game knows what they saw. I can say that because I live in Wisconsin, and even the Packer fans were saying that’s not right.

  30. blacknole08 says: Jun 7, 2013 9:43 AM

    Again, both sides were at fault, but Favre helped make the Packers relevant again, plus he NEVER missed a start during his tenure there.

    Any other QB would not have played through the injuries that Favre sustained.

    And whose to say if Rodgers would be as good as he is now if he hadn’t sat on the bench for 3 years learning behind one of the best ever?

  31. adoombray says: Jun 7, 2013 9:44 AM

    Brett Favre to Rodgers was like going from a girlfriend who wasn’t any fun to be around (interceptions at the worst times) and you couldn’t remember what it was like when it was cool (1996 was a LONG time ago) but kept around because you couldn’t imagine anyone else.

    Then Rodgers comes in, does it all right (he seriously doesn’t make mistakes) constantly makes you glad that he’s around (the girlfriend that buys you lunch and brings it to work just because) and makes you completely forget the last guy.

    As a Packers fan I am grateful for 1996. But his play was erratic and he was Tebow before Tebow: the guy the press mentioned way too much. WAY too much drama. Plus, once he put that Vikings helmet on, I mean that’s like your ex sleeping with your worst enemy.

    No thanks, he’s not welcome back to me, that self absorbed drama queen doesn’t deserve to be anywhere near Lambeau except in a picture of the 96 run. He lost GB way more games than he won and might be one of the most overrated quarterbacks of all time (career leader in intercepctions, and the unofficial stat of “WHY DID HE THROW THAT BALL?”. While John Madden gushed about how he could fit the ball in tight spaces rookies are taught not to do that crap)

  32. sakatak says: Jun 7, 2013 9:50 AM

    Theses are deep wounds we are talking about healing, Favre admitting fault helps a little, but the wound is far from healed for most diehard Packer fans. IMHO it comes down to who you are a fan of, the Green Bay Packers or Brett Favre. I have been a fan of the Green Bay Packers since the 50′s, the team trumps the individual players. Unfortunately players come and go, some more gracefully than others.

  33. allday28mvpmvp says: Jun 7, 2013 9:52 AM

    Favre made the Pack relevant for the first time in decades. Without him they are basically the Raiders

  34. myeaglescantwin says: Jun 7, 2013 9:53 AM

    all he had to do was bow out gravefully..

    instead he pulled the Nameth and clowned himself.
    if you discount his last three years, his wrap sheet was clean and brett was loved by all…

    include the last three years, he seems like s chauvinistic jerkoff, only concerned with his own accolades.

  35. whatjusthapped says: Jun 7, 2013 9:53 AM

    But Green Bay had the last laugh. After watching Favre’s Vikings blow a chance at getting to the Super Bowl, the Packers swept Brett in 2010
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    We weren’t laughing, just a gentle smile at the notion that the Vikings thought Favre was the answer to their problems. He ended his Packer career throwing an OT INT in the NFC Championship game so it come as no surprise that his final NFC championship game vs the Saints, he would turn around and throw another back breaking INT.

    Best of all, he single handily ruined the Vikings for at least 5 years in the process. Its already 2103 and the Vikings still dont have an elite Qb and there is no evidence that they even realize that.

  36. jimmyt says: Jun 7, 2013 9:54 AM

    You can’t reason eith Packer fans who think the game is about them.

  37. jhammicks says: Jun 7, 2013 9:56 AM

    Packer fans aren’t like that, and Favre knows he’s welcome in Green Bay. Packer-Backers are extreme but they’re not rude! The issue they had stems from Mike Holmgren’s bad decisions, now that he’s out of the picture, and time has passed a reunion is in order. I’m sure it helps that the Packers have Rodgers (who is arguably the best QB in the game). You can come back and visit Brett, see how well we’re getting along since your departure.

  38. munny10 says: Jun 7, 2013 9:58 AM

    Disppointed how it ended and I believe Favre was extremely petty in the process, but if you love your team you roll with the good and the bad. Hopefully both sides will be contrite and it will be a great time at Lambeau and throughout Packer Nation!

  39. dkrause71 says: Jun 7, 2013 10:08 AM

    The booing fans need to understand that without Favre the Packers wouldn’t be what they are today (a perennial Super Bowl contender every season). Because if it wasn’t Favre, who would have been the Packer QB from 1992-2007? And would that QB (or more likely QB’s) been as successful. I’d venture to say no. Aaron Rodgers even admitted that he benefitted from sitting and watching Favre do his thing.
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    Likely would have been Mark Brunell who almost got the job when Favre was struggling early in his career. Matt Hasselbeck, Aaron Brooks, and others have been Packers during his tenure as well.

  40. aa1829 says: Jun 7, 2013 10:21 AM

    If your not a life long rabid packers fan you don’t have a vote. So shut up. If you are, as I am, I want no part of that meth smoking, hill billy family. He should stay away from GB forever. We want no part of that traitor. Let him go into the hall in purple, with his wife wearing that purple dress she liked to wear to our games. If he just went off to play elsewhere, no problem, but to deliberately try and screw us is unforgivable. I will be in the front row screaming at him if he comes back, the puke.

  41. arackowski says: Jun 7, 2013 10:24 AM

    Wisconsin fans are not like that. When he comes home, the fans will be there to cheer him on without any boos, just a standing ovation.

  42. Bluestree says: Jun 7, 2013 10:24 AM

    eagleswin nails it. Can’t really see what the organization did wrong. All their moves were aimed at creating a winning team, and that’s their job. Brett on the hand, was all about Brett, which does not fit in the ultimate ‘team sport’. The subsequent sex scandals were another tell. Brett is not a high character guy. All you had to see was the ‘team’ taking the field together, followed by Brett coming out on his own flanked by two guys carrying his towels and gloves. He was a great QB. He was never a team guy. Hence, one SB only for one of the most dominant teams of the 90′s, and a 2Ks team that had one of the leagues top running games.
    But Packer fans, unlike Lorenzo, will swallow it and do what’s best for the franchise and welcome him back.

  43. mmtmadson says: Jun 7, 2013 10:25 AM

    The Packers wouldn’t be who they are without Brett Favre…put on your big boy pants and get over it. For those that feel the need to boo a legend grow up. True blue Viking fan

  44. bookofelisha10 says: Jun 7, 2013 10:31 AM

    Im on the side that Favre is most to blame. How he handled it put the packers in a bind and the pack clearly made the right decision. even though favre did have one of his best seasons ever as a viking ironically.

    atleast hes admitting it though. its probably the best apology you can really ask for from someone like Favre.

  45. bookofelisha10 says: Jun 7, 2013 10:35 AM

    also to people saying whats the issue..

    its like Eli leaving to go to dallas
    its like rapeistberger leaving for ravens
    its like brady leaving for jets

    like lebron leaving cleveland..

    im sure favre will be welcome back but it does take a while to forgive he left there for their enemy and brought them 15 yards away from the superbowl clinching fieldgoal.

  46. mnpacker says: Jun 7, 2013 10:35 AM

    BOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

  47. stellarperformance says: Jun 7, 2013 10:42 AM

    I will never tire of explaining to outsiders why Favre is not (currently) revered by more than half of the existing fanbase. It has absolutely nothing to do with playing for the Vikings. The Viking fans like to think so but they give themselves too much credit where none is due. The Vikings just happened to be a talented team that was missing one vital piece. It could have been any team.

    He identified the Vikings as his last best chance to win a SuperBowl before ending his career…not his own teammates. He orchestrated an attempt to obtain an unconditional release. Why? Why would he do that if he was “retiring?”

    He did it for selfish and personal reasons and it soon turned into a vendetta when the Packers were ready and obviously wise to his ways. As a fan it was painful to watch and experience, especially knowing how important he was to the franchise.

    Rodgers stepped in like the pro that he is and helped the franchise recover from being force-fed the point-of-view that Favre was the franchise all by himself. He wasn’t and isn’t and never will be. Sure, he was good…amongst the best. But he isn’t larger than The Green Bay Packers.

    He isn’t quite contrite enough for me, not yet. He is starting to say the right things in his inimitable style of avoiding responsibility and spreading the blame around nice and thin and evenly, but he has a way to go before I’ll pull my old #4 jersey out of mothballs.

  48. GenXJay says: Jun 7, 2013 10:58 AM

    I seriously doubt any healing will occur.
    As relentlessly unforgiving & ol’ fashioned stubborn as the cheeseheads are w/living in the past; I just do not see any reconciliation going on.
    Also, the civil war is over & the north won cheeseheads.

  49. cafesmitty says: Jun 7, 2013 11:05 AM

    Packers flew to Favre’s home trying to get a decision, treated the man like royalty and we know Favre secretly wanted Aaron Rogers to fail. He was replaced and the Packers didn’t miss a beat and that has to eat at him.
    I am a Bears fan and I dislike the Packers but Favre was a world class douche for being so indecisive (for THREE years!!) and forcing their hand.

    But let me tell you this… if Rogers didn’t work out the way he did, this article would be a completely different tone.

  50. theoriginalbvan says: Jun 7, 2013 11:06 AM

    He’s still hedging.

  51. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Jun 7, 2013 11:10 AM

    It’s hilarious how Packer fans forget how completely irrelevant they were for 25 years before Favre arrived. Really? Mark Brunell? Matt Hasselbeck? Aaron Brooks? These guys aren’t Favre. You were good when Favre was there because of Favre. You’re good now because of Rodgers. There’s nothing magical about the coach, GM, or fans that makes your team win games. Without those quarterbacks, nobody would be paying attention to this team.

  52. emoney826 says: Jun 7, 2013 11:32 AM

    I love all of the palm readers here saying that without Favre, the packers would be irrelevant or the raiders or whatever. Sure, the 90′s probably wouldnt have been as great as they were, but you don’t know if the packers would have won or lost had they went with Brunell or drafted a decent QB. Let’s not forget how great Ron Wolf was at finding talent. And with great coaching from Holmgren, it may have been okay. We’ll never know. Teams turn it around at some point. Remember when the Raiders, Bengals, Saints, Lions, well not the Lions, were so bad for so long? Raiders eventually got back to the super bowl, Bengals are again a playoff team, the Saints won it all a few years ago. My point is, you don’t know the future. I credit Favre for many things, but to say he was the ONLY reason why the packers are relevant again, is ignorant.

  53. dragonfly99 says: Jun 7, 2013 11:59 AM

    I am struggling to find out what the Packers’ organization could have done differently. In professional sports it is the general manager and the entire administrations’s job to do what is best for the entire organization not just one player, Remember it was Favre who threatened to quit on them three years in a row and finally officially announced his retirement at a tearful televised news conference. It was Favre who called Matt Millen and discussed Green Bay’s annual preparation before the Detroit game. It was Favre who had ongoing cell phone conversations with Darrell Bevell and other Minnesota coaches while he was still on the Green Bay roster. It was Favre who told Chicago defensive players to make sure to knock Green Bay out of playoffs in 2010. It was Favre who was waiting on the phone to persuade Greg Jennings when he got off the plane in Minnesota a couple of months ago. I have never heard anything negative comments about Brett from anyone in the Packers administration. Brett had many good years in Green Bay and it was sad how it ended but I would say Brett was more than partially at fault.

  54. aa1829 says: Jun 7, 2013 12:21 PM

    This is a team sport unless we are talking about favray, them he is the whole team. Your not welcome here crack head.

  55. gbmickey says: Jun 7, 2013 12:56 PM

    Many here are not old enough but if the fanbase can forgive Lombardi for going to Washington they will forgive Brett.

    If it wasnt for our qb’s nobody would be paying attention to the Packers Dickey Spielman? Pretty much the reason no one pays attention to the Vikings am I right? Then we are forced to see the desperate attempt to be recognized by the flood of Viking posters on Packer articles to ride the coattails of a winner or the incessant whining on Saints articles about the loss in the playoffs.

  56. Wisconsin77 says: Jun 7, 2013 1:12 PM

    For those of you saying that only Favre was at fault, not the Packers, obviously forgot about these small details:

    - It was TT who struck first with the news conference where he presented the exaggerated and inaccurate “timeline”. It was actually this press conference that forced Favre to go public for the first time to defend himself (the Greta interview).

    - The Packers hired an outside PR firm, headed by the same guy who was GWB’s press secretary when they lied to the world about WMDs, for the sole purpose of orchestrating a smear campaign against Favre.

    - That same guy, Ari Flechier, used his contact in the Wall Street Journal to write a smear article against Favre claiming he was a Diva. This was the first time anybody ever used that word to describe Favre. And this was written by a Financial newspaper that usually doesn’t do sports stories. Clearly this was orchestrated by Ari who was representing the Packers.

    - The Packers never disputed the infamous “Packer issued cell phone” in which the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported that the Packers had cell phone logs of Favre calling the Vikings using a cell phone they issued him. That story sat in the press for 4 days until the league said they were going to investigate the Packers because if such a cell phone was in existence, the Packers broke league rules. At that point, and only after that point, did the Packers officially refute the story as a lie.

    I could go on, but I think you get the picture.

  57. kevinzeemail says: Jun 7, 2013 1:55 PM

    I recall a large factor in all this going down was Aaron Rodgers’ rookie contract, in that if he wasn’t imminently installed as Starting QB he would look for another team. The Packers would have had to offer their unproven high-pick backup QB a starter contract to keep him around, if he was cool with clipboard duty another few seasons. I can’t imagine he would have been cool with that.

  58. bigjim50010 says: Jun 7, 2013 2:34 PM

    Rick Spielman is a Magician says:
    Jun 7, 2013 9:29 AM
    So the best player in Green Bay history’s fondest desire was always to play for their biggest rival. What’s the big deal?
    *****************************************
    Bart Starr never wanted to be a Viking.

    and you’re still 0-4

    if only Favre could have run 5 yards..0-5

    50 years of Greatness…bwhahahahahahahaha!

  59. deltaoracle says: Jun 7, 2013 4:05 PM

    The article pretty much says it all fairly. As for the comments –
    Wisconsin77, no one needed to read any articles to know that Favre was a diva. He was a very exciting QB, at times the best ever and at other crucial times the worst. But especially in later years it was all about #4. Do you remember his full-page newspaper ad saying goodbye to the fans when he left? Yeah, me neither.
    Magician, the Packers never would have “been good” and won the Super Bowl with Favre if not for the best defense in the league that year. Not to mention the Super Bowl MVP, Desmond Howard – and how that vote must have eaten at Brett.
    Favre won one world championship; Starr won five. If only Favre had one fifth of Starr’s class and humility. #4′s personality was really a better fit in Minnesota, where “everyone is above average” as Keillor might say.

  60. whodey420 says: Jun 7, 2013 4:22 PM

    People were commenting in the Chad Johnson and T.O. articles about “Diva’s”. This guy (#4) is a bigger “Diva” than those 2 put together!!

  61. filthymcnasty1 says: Jun 7, 2013 4:29 PM

    Favre did a great job of showing professional athletes how not to retire, and many of them are going way out of their way not to Favre up their own retirements.

  62. ddaughtry81 says: Jun 7, 2013 5:03 PM

    He should be judged by what he did on the field. All the bitter fans need to cut it out. You guys are the ones that sound like divas. It was a bad break up. Most are. You move on.

  63. outlawshark says: Jun 7, 2013 5:18 PM

    Why in the world does anyone think the Packers’ biggest rival is the Vikings? A rivalry contains a certain amount of respect. That has always been and will always be with the Bears.

  64. packerbacker12 says: Jun 7, 2013 5:25 PM

    “The booing fans need to understand that without Favre the Packers wouldn’t be what they are today (a perennial Super Bowl contender every season). Because if it wasn’t Favre, who would have been the Packer QB from 1992-2007? And would that QB (or more likely QB’s) been as successful. I’d venture to say no. Aaron Rodgers even admitted that he benefitted from sitting and watching Favre do his thing.”

    If that is the case, then more credit should be going to Ron Wolf. If it wasn’t for him, Favre wouldn’t of never been a Packer in the first place. Basically the man resurrected his career because had he not given up a first rounder, Favre would of been a career back-up, at best.

    I am not saying Favre had nothing to do with the Packers’ being so dominant in the late ’90s. He was a HUGE part of it. But like I said, Ron Wolf deserves more credit for getting Favre to Green Bay and having so much faith in him.

  65. toolkien says: Jun 7, 2013 5:52 PM

    1) No GM in his right mind would simply “cut” Favre. That would never have happened. Favre had three options – play as designated by people who are paid to attend to aspects such as personnel and schemes, retire, or work out a trade, Favre having a nullification ability by simply not reporting to the team traded to and he’d go bouncing back to Green Bay. The Packers gave Favre the right of first refusal of the job, they simply moved up the deadline so they could make the best decisions for the team (they afterall gave Favre plenty of time to decide the previous FOUR years, but then they didn’t have a Super Bowl contending team to try and navigate). So to spin it that they knew for a fact that Favre say I’m done is nonsense. In Favre’s voice message to Mortensen the day he retired he stressed how he DIDN’T feel like he was being forced out.

    2) Two the Packers didn’t force a showdown, it was Favre who did trying to “force hands”. Favre wanted his release so he could go to the Vikings. It was Favre who put the situation into stark terms of “give me my helmet or give me my release”, neither of which he was in a position to demand. The Packers did try and coax Favre into staying retired (which probably would have been the best option, the one Favre’s own mother wished he would have chosen) but Favre was so bent on getting back at Thompson for not structuring the team to his demands (cue the Greta interviews).

    It’s all water under the bridge now but it stands that Favre had his three choices, just like any pre-free agent era player did since he signed the “life time” contract and his rights were the Packers’ hands until 2010 (therefore pretty much in the same boat as a pre-free agent era player). He had those three options just like Staubach, or Tarkenton, or even Montana had. But nothing more. The exaggerated legend surrounding Favre must have made it appear that he had more options, and he played whatever off suit cards that he had in the end game of Euchre that he tried to play (the only trump he had was refusing to report to traded team). And he looked like a self centered jerk to anyone with eyes. And in some cases it offset his Dan Fouts caliber contribution to the Packers’ cause. And it’s funny how whenever the Packers’ faults are listed out, it usually comes down to not having given Favre his way, which no team worth a spit would have. If Thompson had simply let Favre walk, all the other GM’s in the league would have gotten together and given him a Code Red. 95% of the “divorce” fell on Favre, but most people don’t seem to be able to “handle the truth”.

  66. thehatefulnerd says: Jun 7, 2013 7:14 PM

    Wait, how was this partly on the Packers?

  67. nickynick04 says: Jun 7, 2013 7:38 PM

    Enough already
    Kiss and make up…

  68. pakrbakr76 says: Jun 8, 2013 10:59 AM

    hscorpio wrote: “1992-2007 has little to do with the team on the field in 2013. So it’s nonsense to suggest they owe their status today to Favre.”

    ***********

    Ummm, OK. So tell me then…was it Lynn Dickey, Randy Wright or Don Majkowski who had a part in what led to the Pack’s resurgence in the early 90′s? I forget…

    …and if we connect the dots here a little more, how do you think that stadium referendum in 2000 to remodel Lambeau – thereby keeping the Packers in GB – gets passed? It only passed by a few percentage points, and prior SB’s that Favre helped lead them to, could it be?

    Granted, this is only one angle to view it from, but IMO, what gets fielded in 2013 DOES have a lot to do with what happened from 1992-2007.

  69. icecubeusedtobeangry says: Jun 8, 2013 2:34 PM

    Bigjim…I’m 0-4? Really? Because I have never played in a Super Bowl. If Favre ran those 5 yards I would not be 0-5, I would still be 0-0. My point….its just a game.

  70. axespray says: Jun 8, 2013 3:06 PM

    Let’s hurry up and retire that Jersey….
    and if they’re worried about “boos” – then just have Driver part of the ceremony, people won’t be booing if Driver is involved.

  71. jimmysee says: Jun 8, 2013 3:11 PM

    I admit it — we do miss the big lug!

  72. benniehifive says: Jun 8, 2013 7:29 PM

    adoombray says:Jun 7, 2013 9:44 AM

    “Brett Favre to Rodgers was like going from a girlfriend who wasn’t any fun to be around (interceptions at the worst times) and you couldn’t remember what it was like when it was cool (1996 was a LONG time ago) but kept around because you couldn’t imagine anyone else.

    Then Rodgers comes in, does it all right (he seriously doesn’t make mistakes) constantly makes you glad that he’s around (the girlfriend that buys you lunch and brings it to work just because) and makes you completely forget the last guy.”

    ok, I’m a little late to the party but I have to throw my 2 cents in anyways. yes, Rodgers IS like that girlfriend that always does everything right. she attends ALL of your outside-of-work activities that you have. she’s ALWAYS there for you. BUT….forget any last second trips to vegas, you guys are saving all your money for retirement. and don’t even think about getting the Corvette, do you know how efficient the Prius is?? better get the hanky panky out of the way before 10 cuz you know…early to bed early to rise…don’t worry tho, you will never have to worry about having a hangover again!

    don’t get me wrong, I like knowing that there won’t be any boneheaded interceptions thrown into triple coverage anymore. however…does anybody else remember the Giants game last year? 3rd and 13, down by 2 touchdowns, defense can’t get a stop to save their lives, and Rodgers is throwing it out of bounds because nobody is open. Favre would have had a minimum of 3 interceptions that game but you couldn’t say he didn’t try.

    and for the people that don’t believe that Favre is the reason that the team is where it is now, I can pretty much guarantee that without him there is no super bowl appearances in the 90′s. I know…with that defense Brunnell or Hasselback could have gotten them there. Reggie White came to green bay because he believed in their new quarterback. the veterans that came to green bay to solidify the team for the great run through the 90s wouldnt’ have signed without Reggie there. no one man is bigger than the team, but give Favre his due…if he’s ready to make nice then let’s get this party started! vegas, anybody?

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