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Larry Foote: Steelers should have gone 12-4

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The Steelers went 8-8 last season, but four of those eight losses were by a field goal. And that has Steelers linebacker Larry Foote thinking about what might have been.

Foote told the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review that he thinks the Steelers were good enough to be a 12-4 team because those close losses were games they should have won.

Four games we should have won. Do that, and we’re 12-4, but that’s how the league goes,” Foote said. “The year before, we made the playoffs and we could have lost four games. The bottom line is we lost some games that we should have won and we didn’t.”

Of course, every team in the NFL that missed the playoffs last year could look back at a few close losses and say those were games they should have won. And the Steelers also could have lost most of the games they won: Five of their eight wins were by seven points or less.

Ultimately, however many games the Steelers “should have won,” eight is the number they did win. And that’s what matters.

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83 Responses to “Larry Foote: Steelers should have gone 12-4”
  1. bigbrad184 says: Jun 10, 2013 10:41 AM

    Your rational logic and reasoning aren’t welcome here!

  2. tvguy22 says: Jun 10, 2013 10:44 AM

    You are what your record says you are.

  3. Iknoweverything says: Jun 10, 2013 10:45 AM

    The delusional, obnoxious fanbase thinks the should go 16-0 and win every Super Bowl each season.

    It’s kind of sad that they are unable to comprehend the facts which everyone else knows…………That they will not sniff another SB for at least 10 years. They are old and slow

  4. kennyking33 says: Jun 10, 2013 10:45 AM

    coulda, woulda, shoulda!!

    talk about a slow news day!

  5. southpaw2k says: Jun 10, 2013 10:49 AM

    Why is he concerned with what happened last season? Yeah, training camp doesn’t kick off for another 6 weeks or so, but every player’s mentality – even the Ravens, who won the Super Bowl – should be focused on 2013 by now. Who cares how many games Team X “should” have won last season?

  6. huskerd says: Jun 10, 2013 10:51 AM

    And the dog woild have caught the rabbit if he didn’t stop to take a sh!t.

  7. joe6606 says: Jun 10, 2013 10:53 AM

    Meh. The season ended when Ben got hurt. He wasn’t the same after he came back. Many bad losses. Few good wins. We were closer to a sub 500 team than a legitimate sb contender.

  8. swagger52 says: Jun 10, 2013 10:54 AM

    The Ravens should have 7 Super Bowl wins at this point. However, unfortunately Baltimore hasn’t been a franchise long enough. At the current rate, Ravens will pass the Steelers.

  9. takingbacksundays5 says: Jun 10, 2013 10:55 AM

    You are what your record says you are, Larry. The Steelers just as easily could have been 6-10 or worse.

    Come to think of it, that sounds like a pretty solid prediction for this season. Look for the Steelers and Brows to battle it out for the basement in the North.

  10. miamimike1 says: Jun 10, 2013 10:55 AM

    An If the Queen had balls she would be King!!!

  11. isphet71 says: Jun 10, 2013 10:55 AM

    Foote’s been Lionized.

  12. jtbsteeler says: Jun 10, 2013 10:56 AM

    Why report it then? Two years ago if the Steelers would’ve beaten the Ravens on that Flacco to Torrey Smith Jumpball game, they would’ve had homefield and there would be no Tebow debacle. We would’ve been home and definitely on our way to the bowl. The days of losing AFCC games at home is over for the Steelers.

  13. ken49ers says: Jun 10, 2013 11:00 AM

    But they didn’t. They won 8 games. Next topic.

  14. jtbsteeler says: Jun 10, 2013 11:02 AM

    The AFC is wide open. And this defense will be #1 again, it’s up to the offense to push us over the hump. We’ll crush the Bungles dreams in week 2 and smoke the Ravens at home early. By mid-season it will clear that the Steelers are the class of the AFC and that the Ravens defense will be there worse in franchise history. No leadership and no players.

  15. bigbenownsthenfl says: Jun 10, 2013 11:02 AM

    Ratbird fans were tickled pink no Steelers in the playoffs! They never went through us in the playoffs! We beaten everytime! Steeler nation baby!!!

  16. hoptimusprimal says: Jun 10, 2013 11:05 AM

    They also won 3 games by a 3 or less, and another by 4.

    Using the same logic, they should have gone 5-11…

  17. chewingonlightbulbs says: Jun 10, 2013 11:06 AM

    Almost every team would be 12-4 if they won every close game they were in.

  18. ryann252013 says: Jun 10, 2013 11:07 AM

    You should of have?

    the team didn’t play like they deserved it

  19. war71 says: Jun 10, 2013 11:08 AM

    Should’ve, could’ve, would’ve…..but didn’t.

  20. mborz says: Jun 10, 2013 11:14 AM

    I think there is a context problem with the way this story was presented here.

    Before I clicked through to the article that MDS linked to (and based this post around), I totally expected it to be about the Steelers saying they were better than their record.

    Instead, the title of the original article was titled “Tomlin says it’s time to shape up” and was about the Steeler’s struggles in the 4th quarter last year and how they had a problem finishing games, and how they need to improve on this, which is what Foote was actually referring to.

  21. blindmansaidwhat says: Jun 10, 2013 11:15 AM

    Slow news day?? How is this newsworthy…EVERY team would be right in saying and thinking the same thing because its usually true, hence the term “game of inches”

  22. humbleminded85 says: Jun 10, 2013 11:16 AM

    Bens got to stay healthy…end of story. The play he got hurt on against KC that killed the steelers season was 100% on Ben not the Oline. Watch the play, the Oline formed a perfect pocket for a passer to sit and wait for open target but when Ben decided to leave that pocket early he paid for it by Justin Houston and Tamba Hali. The thing is, the very same style in which Ben showed on that play is the same style that’s made him one of the best in football. It’s got to be hard to watch him sometimes, because his style literally makes or breaks the steelers chances of making a playoff run or not. The easiest thing would be to say he needs to be more of a pocket passer and prtoect himself and the team…but that’s not Ben. Ben is the guy who’s same style that got him knocked out, also made that unbelievable play in Dallas were he scrambled enough time away for Heath Miller to get open on the sideline for a great touchdown play. You have to take the good and the bad with his style, and it pains me to say as a Bmore fan but the good over weighs the bad for sure.

  23. leevi98 says: Jun 10, 2013 11:16 AM

    Should of….could of….would of and everyone is SB Champs right?

  24. skinsfaninnebraska says: Jun 10, 2013 11:21 AM

    Foote makes a good point.

    The margin for error in the NFL is very small. A couple of field goals here or there can often mean the difference between a team having a successful season or watching the playoffs at home.

  25. Nofoolnodrool says: Jun 10, 2013 11:21 AM

    I think he is correct to view it that way. However, it should be used as motivation not an excuse for sub par performance. He has been around long enough to understand the good teams win the close ones bad teams don’t. 8-8 for the steelers is bad……could be like that for a couple of years so be ready steeler nation.

  26. woodrree7 says: Jun 10, 2013 11:22 AM

    Shoulda, woulda-coulda…….. but you didn’t now did you? That’s like saying the Chiefs should of gone undefeated!! or Saints should have had a better defense. But they didn’t! Talk about putting your Foote in your mouth!! You were 8-8….. deal with it!!

  27. bookofelisha10 says: Jun 10, 2013 11:24 AM

    that was the most pointless comment ever..explaining why you should of gone 12-4 then go and explain to yourself why you didnt and go so far as given an example of how it works…

  28. bengaldynastyinthemaking says: Jun 10, 2013 11:25 AM

    Hey Larry, quit being a crybaby…

  29. johnelwayishorsefaced says: Jun 10, 2013 11:25 AM

    Yup and the Lions lost their 8 games by a total of 50 some points, 41 of which came in two games. We were still 4-12. It really doesn’t matter what should have happened. This is what DID happen.

  30. r8derfan33 says: Jun 10, 2013 11:26 AM

    Open mouth, insert Foote! My Raiders beat you, which is pretty sad…..lol!

  31. jacktheraven says: Jun 10, 2013 11:27 AM

    Ravens should have been 20-0, if they hadn’t lost 6 games.

  32. logicalvoicesisnotlogical says: Jun 10, 2013 11:28 AM

    Coulda shoulda woulda didnt.

  33. baddegg says: Jun 10, 2013 11:29 AM

    I should be President of Uraguay but sadly I was born in the US..

  34. Nofoolnodrool says: Jun 10, 2013 11:44 AM

    The raven trolls displaying the usual lack of maturity on this fine Monday morning. Surprising how many raven trolls don’t seem to work…..it’s ok I am working so they can get their checks….lol

  35. allmyexsliveintexas says: Jun 10, 2013 11:47 AM

    Losing the close games, the game of inches, and the referee’s calls seem to forever plague the .500 teams in sports. Why? Because the .500 teams are not good enough to overcome those adversities.

  36. brownoholic says: Jun 10, 2013 11:47 AM

    Probably shouldn’t have 7 fumbles in one game.

  37. si1m says: Jun 10, 2013 11:50 AM

    Foote is the player incarnation of the delusional steeler fan base.

  38. randomcommenter says: Jun 10, 2013 12:00 PM

    The steelers were better than the ravens last year. The steelers beat the ravens with Charlie Batch. And lost the other game by 3 with Leftwich.

    If the steelers had won that Leftwich game vs the ravens then the steelers would have went to the playoffs instead of the ravens.

    Maybe the steelers would have had DBs fall down and get free TDs and go to the Super Bowl.

  39. citizenstrange says: Jun 10, 2013 12:02 PM

    Roethlisberger couldn’t win a single game when the defense gave up over 17 points.

    If the Steelers had even a top 15 offense in points scored they would be undefeated.

  40. lagg1 says: Jun 10, 2013 12:04 PM

    To the Steelers from the Ravens-BRING IT ON!

  41. rockthered1286 says: Jun 10, 2013 12:21 PM

    Want a good laugh on a Monday morning? Check out a Steelers article full of mispellings, broken sentences, and such overblown phrases like:

    -We have more rings that you!
    -Jumpball Joe!
    -Ray Lewis is a murderer!
    -We beat you last year with a backup QB so we must be better than you even though you won a SB while we sat at home after week 17!
    -You ain’t got no veteran leadership!

    Ah the uninformed are almost as comical as the uneducated. But the best will always be the trolls who put on their blinders and refuse to accept reality.

  42. bobzilla1001 says: Jun 10, 2013 12:28 PM

    The lack of a SCORING offense coupled with a decent defense pretty much always guarantees close games. It’s been that way in Pittsburgh since 2008.
    Over the past 33 games, including the postseason in 2012, the Steelers have beaten only six teams with winning records, including the Bengals TWICE.
    Foote is right: 12-4 in 2012 could’ve easily been 8-8; just as 8-8 last season could’ve easily been 6-10 or worse.
    Moving forward, I simply don’t believe the Steelers can count on playing such weak teams that they’ve played the past two seasons.

  43. steel2372 says: Jun 10, 2013 12:33 PM

    To the Ravens from the Steelers – WE WILL BRING IT

  44. stainlessstill says: Jun 10, 2013 12:33 PM

    The Ravens should have 7 Super Bowl wins at this point. However, unfortunately Baltimore hasn’t been a franchise long enough. At the current rate, Ravens will pass the Steelers.

    ——————-

    Save it, junior! You know you can’t get past us in the playoffs! 0-3 lifetime against the Steelers on the games biggest stage, INCLUDING an AFC Title game. In turn, we got through you for our 6th and leauge leading Super Bowl title! Thanks!

    Also, 2001/2004. The Pats took two rings from the Steelers in spygate, so, within logic, we should have 8 Superbowl trophies!

    Needless to say, winning in the NFL is a fine line, which is why a rejuvenated Steelers team WILL win those close games in ’13. Get ready for order to be restored and to see Pittsburgh wipe the FLOOR with your team once more.

  45. steel2372 says: Jun 10, 2013 12:36 PM

    Everyone is scoffing oh coulda woulda shoulda. But Their is some truth to what he said. Close games and also injuries def played a huge role in last years teams record. They could have very easily gone 12-4. Before Big Ben’s injury 6-3 and playing very well. This offense might shock some people especially AFCN opponents. The defense will once again be top 2 or 3 in the league. Anytime you have a top defense you have a chance to do great things.

  46. steel2372 says: Jun 10, 2013 12:37 PM

    This team has a fire to succeed. They are motivated.

  47. steeltroll says: Jun 10, 2013 12:38 PM

    Ravens fans aren’t delusional? What was Baltimore doing before the play offs? Losing a bunch of games in a row. A lot of parity in the NFL now. Foote isn’t stupid or at least isn’t saying something stupid. Ravens got hot and rode the “let’s get another one for Lewis” bus to victory. That’s what good teams do. Foote didn’t say, the “Steelers were robbed.” Foote is saying, “There were at least four games where the Steelers should have taken care of business and failed.” And the Steelers did fail. It’s okay to hate. But a lot of these comments fail at basic inferential logic. Now be a man and click thumbs up.

  48. dmoore64 says: Jun 10, 2013 12:39 PM

    Some of you people on here really need to get a grip! Why r u guys hating on some because they gave their opinion? Do any of you think you could’ve had a better year last year if you did some things different!? Get a life people!!

  49. steelcurtainn says: Jun 10, 2013 12:43 PM

    Dont worry about it Larry, the steelers will be at least 12-4 this year while the ravens sink to bottom of the barrell.

  50. larrydavid7000 says: Jun 10, 2013 1:00 PM

    would of should of and could of. what an IDIOT. Spoken from a true LOSER and my team should of won at least 14 games last year and won the SB.

  51. edisbetterthantroy says: Jun 10, 2013 1:03 PM

    PFT took down my first post, which wasn’t offensive. But I’ll get to the point with this one:

    Ravens won the Super Bowl…

    Steelers missed the playoffs…

    Easy enough?

  52. overratedsteelerhater says: Jun 10, 2013 1:04 PM

    to be the man you have to beat the man.last time I looked RAVENS were the man…;.

  53. cliffordc05 says: Jun 10, 2013 1:11 PM

    Shoulda, Coulda, Woulda.

  54. Joemontanaflacco says: Jun 10, 2013 1:15 PM

    Move on, Larry. It’s 2013. Time to put aside the past and start coming up with new excuses for why the Steelers will blow it this year.

  55. steeltroll says: Jun 10, 2013 1:16 PM

    overratedsteelerhater, no the last time you looked the Ravens meeting the Steelers, you saw the Ravens get Batch slapped. The last time either the Steelers or the Ravens were simply dominant over the other was NEVER. When Ravens and Steelers fans get together to talk about their teams, it’s like watching primeates throw feces at one another.

  56. restonraven says: Jun 10, 2013 1:18 PM

    IF one Arizona Cardinal had happened to push James Harrison out of bounds on his 99yd TD return at the end of the first half – Arizona wins the Super Bowl XLIII

    IF the referees had even remotely called an even handed game – The Seahawks would have beaten the Steelers in the Super Bowl XL after Hasselbeck kicked their butt all over the field. The only Super Bowl in NFL History where the head referee admitted after the game the he “blew calls that impacted the game.”

    Say this is fun! Lets keep going back in time to the Carter, Ford & Nixon Administrations when I was in pre-school:

    IF the referees correctly call a legitimate Dan Pastorini to Mike Renfro TD pass (he was in bounds) the Oilers and not the Steelers win the 1980 AFC Championship and play the Rams in the Super Bowl

    IF Jackie Smith holds on to a perfect spiral from Staubach, or the referees don’t call a bogus PI call on Benny Barnes after Swann trips on his own – The Cowboys win Super Bowl XIII. Oh what the heck – let’s also throw in the “jump ball” Swann pulls in at the back of the endzone over Waters.

    IF Swann does not haul in another Bradshaw “jump ball” the Cowboys win Super Bowl X

    IF Chuck Foreman does not fumble deep in Steeler territory while the Vikings are driving – the Vikings win Super Bowl IX.

    SO –applying Steeler poster logic of “jump balls” (instead of great WR plays), lucky fluke plays and bad officiating – the Steelers are actually winless in Super Bowls. “IF” is a stupid game to play, but then again these are the same fans that think fries and slaw on a ham & cheese sandwich is somehow the apex of culinary innovation. I have nothing but respect for the Steelers organization – congrats on their titles – but some of their fans need to get a grip. Peace.

  57. msstiller58 says: Jun 10, 2013 1:25 PM

    Yep, slow day. So they post a non-story about Steelers to get the haters reading and posting. If it was a story about the Jags no one would bother.

  58. heyzeus143 says: Jun 10, 2013 1:44 PM

    Ummmmmm no

  59. Nofoolnodrool says: Jun 10, 2013 1:54 PM

    Move on, Larry. It’s 2013. Time to put aside the past and start coming up with new excuses for why the Steelers will blow it this year.

    You should follow the advice you gave and move on From your excuses for logical comments. A fanboy giving a pro advice….that’s rich.

  60. rahavort says: Jun 10, 2013 2:13 PM

    Should have…………..but didn’t…..

  61. jtbsteeler says: Jun 10, 2013 2:31 PM

    Ratbird defense this season will be out of the top 15. The offense with Torrey Smith as your #1 will be the laughing stock of the league.

    Ratbird nation will be crying in their beer worrying about what happened to their defense this season. I wanted the Rats in game one, but Biscuit begged the league not to make them go to Pittsburgh for week 1. Knowing full well the possibility for total embarrassment was thru the roof.

  62. jtbsteeler says: Jun 10, 2013 2:33 PM

    THere will be a “collection of tears” for the whining about letting Pollard, Reed and Boldin go. I’m excited!

  63. historyisyourfriend says: Jun 10, 2013 2:35 PM

    I am a Steelers fan but I cringe when reading stuff like this from one of our players. You weren’t 12-4. You were 8-8. Team underperformed. Get over it. Instead of rehashing last year why don’t you focus on this year there Larry?

  64. dexterismyhero says: Jun 10, 2013 2:43 PM

    Maybe in the SEC!!!!

  65. steelcurtainn says: Jun 10, 2013 2:45 PM

    The ratbirds won this year, Big Deal, it will be in the past in no time. The steelers have done that twice in the last 8 years. One things for sure, the last time the two teams met, the ratbirds were batch-slapped with a steelers victory in baltimore.

  66. bunkslurpscrabmustard says: Jun 10, 2013 2:46 PM

    Pens got swept, such a loser town.

  67. mungman69 says: Jun 10, 2013 3:18 PM

    The Steelers won’t win more than 8 games in 2013.

  68. nbarber2013 says: Jun 10, 2013 4:18 PM

    By that logic the seahawks should have been 16-0 because they don’t lose one game by more than 6 points.

  69. edisbetterthantroy says: Jun 10, 2013 4:20 PM

    My favorite comment is from steelcurtainn:

    “The ratbirds won this year, Big Deal, it will be in the past in no time. The steelers have done that twice in the last 8 years.”

    So you’re saying Ravens’ fans should move on? While referencing the Steelers’ past? Well which is it because you just sound silly?

  70. poesports says: Jun 10, 2013 4:29 PM

    steeltroll says: Jun 10, 2013 1:16 PM

    overratedsteelerhater, no the last time you looked the Ravens meeting the Steelers, you saw the Ravens get Batch slapped.

    Yes the Ravens got Batch slapped during the reg. season but went on to win the Super Bowl. By the Steelers own admission, they got Tebowed in the playoffs and sent home. Been a couple rough years for Pitt. As far as Ravens fans trolling. Im sure all the Pitt fans were quiet yesterday with the Bisciotti/Flacco article. No trolling there right?

  71. audient says: Jun 10, 2013 4:53 PM

    Except for ties, half the league loses each week. No getting around that.

    Just for fun, I looked back on the 2010 Browns, Eric Mangini’s last year as coach. The Browns went 5-11. But they “should have won” every game they lost by 7 points or less. And if they had, they would have been 12-4. Or, at least gone 8-8, if they’d won the three games they’d lost by 3 points or less.

    But the Browns went 5-11. And Mangini was fired. It really is a game of inches.

  72. jimiinpa says: Jun 10, 2013 4:57 PM

    shouda…coulda…woulda…

  73. mattbohach says: Jun 10, 2013 5:38 PM

    Steelers players’ intelligence = Steelers fans’ intelligence. Are you smarter than a 5th grader?

  74. steelcurtainn says: Jun 10, 2013 5:41 PM

    Its neither, its a comment…. Your response is just a tad bit sillier……and no reed is not better then troy(he’s not even on the team anymore) They are two different players at two different positions……Only a raven fan would believe that. I’m glad I made your favorite comment list tho.

  75. jprcox says: Jun 10, 2013 5:47 PM

    Seriously – do you know how many teams say that same thing….or lose by just 3 pts? You could play that game for 20 of the 32 teams in the NFL.

    Fact is, its those 3pts that are most important. Like a runner or swimmer saying they were less than a second from winning. At certain levels that difference IS the only difference.

  76. rockinrodie says: Jun 10, 2013 7:02 PM

    Like Coach Bill said, “the difference between 5-11 and 11-5 is razor thin.” Often it’s a bounce of the ball, or a handful of special teams plays that determine that. But the consistently great teams find ways. And besides NE, there hasn’t been a more consistent team than Pit since 2000.

  77. crownofthehelmet says: Jun 10, 2013 11:46 PM

    Larry, though you may be right, shhh, you sound foolish.

    Record, schmecord. All that matters is being in playoff contention, and it’s rare the Steelers aren’t. Even last year’s 8-8 disappointment was two bad turnovers from winning the division, and a ravens miracle 4th & 29 check-down away from backing in to the playoffs.

    The last time I really felt the Steelers wouldn’t contend was during the Kordell-Maddox decade. And now that I type that, I realize what a stud Ben is.

  78. jimmyjames65 says: Jun 10, 2013 11:50 PM

    The steelers were better than the ravens last year. The steelers beat the ravens with Charlie Batch. And lost the other game by 3 with Leftwich.

    If the steelers had won that Leftwich game vs the ravens then the steelers would have went to the playoffs instead of the ravens.

    Maybe the steelers would have had DBs fall down and get free TDs and go to the Super Bowl.
    If worms had machineguns, birds wouldn’t stand a chance. The Steelers are going to lose both games against the Ravens. Better hope they don’t lose to the Bengals and Browns too.

  79. ridgeavenuehr says: Jun 11, 2013 4:10 AM

    Be prepared for the a steelers to go 16-0 this year. We “should” win them all!

  80. Joemontanaflacco says: Jun 11, 2013 1:45 PM

    There hasn’t been a more consistent team than Pit since 2000? Hahahaha. Steelers failed to make the playoffs five years since 2000. Ravens made the playoffs all but four years. Maybe in “Pit” 5 is less than 4, but in Baltimore we believe otherwise. We also believe in gravity, something the Steelers should consider on their way down to the AFCN basement.

  81. crownofthehelmet says: Jun 11, 2013 3:43 PM

    Joemontanaflacco says:

    We also believe in gravity, something the Steelers should consider on their way down to the AFCN basement.
    ———————————————————-
    I would think believing in gravity is a requirement of being a Flacco fan – can you imagine how high those hail mary’s would sail without gravity.

  82. Nofoolnodrool says: Jun 12, 2013 4:55 PM

    Joemontanaflacco says:
    Jun 11, 2013 1:45 PM
    There hasn’t been a more consistent team than Pit since 2000? Hahahaha. Steelers failed to make the playoffs five years since 2000. Ravens made the playoffs all but four years. Maybe in “Pit” 5 is less than 4, but in Baltimore we believe otherwise. We also believe in gravity, something the Steelers should consider on their way down to the AFCN basement.

    2 1 Does gravity cause memory loss super troll? Steelers have been to the Super Bowl three times in the period you were bragging about. I know you guys like t-shirts …we like Lombardi’s. sorry you just became a fan this year so you may not remember as you were in middle school.

  83. Joemontanaflacco says: Jun 12, 2013 9:45 PM

    You like Lombardies? You also like unnecessary apostrophes, old man/ woman. What happened to the Lombardi you got for being mauled by the Packers? Yes, that’s right. Steelers have only two since 2000. So do the Ravens. But Steelers also missed the playoffs more than the Ravens so they certainly don’t get the consistency prize. That was my point which you would have understood had you not been so obsessed with frantically reaching into your condescending insult bag, old man/woman.

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