Hernandez situation the buzz of Boston

AP

As MDS mentioned earlier in the hour, Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez finds himself in the middle of an investigation regarding the death of a man described as a Hernandez “associate.”

The situation, which is extremely fluid, already has spawned inconsistent accounts.  For example, SI reports that Hernandez has been questioned, while ABC reports that investigators plan to interview him.  Likewise, SI reports that police may seek to search Hernandez’s home; ABC reports that police are indeed seeking a search warrant.

Per ABC, Hernandez has been “uncooperative.”

Reporters in Boston have been buzzing all afternoon regarding the situation.  The team has not responded to a PFT email seeking comment, and folks close to Hernandez are saying nothing, given the gravity of the situation.

There’s still no evidence that Hernandez is or will be a suspect.  Given that the the body was found in the vicinity of a car that, per SI, was rented in Hernandez’s name, a level of stupidity on par with Jesse Pinkman would be necessary to result in Hernandez actually being involved.

Then again, even Jesse Pinkman would know that it’s a good idea to be cooperative with police when there’s no reason to not be.

97 responses to “Hernandez situation the buzz of Boston

  1. Just because Hernandez plays pro football doesn’t mean he couldn’t somehow be complicit in a murder. I’m not accusin, I’m just sayin.

  2. The only part of this that worries me is the uncooperative part. No reason to be uncooperative unless he’s hiding something.

  3. I was about to compliment Florio on making a pop culture reference that was more current than the 90’s (Seinfeld) but then i hit the Dan Dierdorff double negative about how Pinkman would cooperate with the police – except that Pinkman would never cooperate with the police under any circumstances and has explicitly stated on multiple occasions even ones that would benefit him immensely that he would never do that. Nice try though.

    oh, wait, this is a patriots post, TEBOW FOR NO REASON TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW.

    better?

  4. Per ABC, Hernandez has been “uncooperative.”

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    If true, I can’t think of many reasons why an innocent man would be “uncooperative.”

  5. The uncooperative part reminds me of that Britt case when somebody he knew was stabbed or shot and he refused to help ? Did anything happen in that case ?

  6. when it comes to athletes involved in violence I have little doubt that its a possibility. they can snap at any moment. i won’t bother explaining the science behind why this is but I can assure you there is some science behind what causes violent behavior

  7. Per ABC, Hernandez has been “uncooperative.”

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    If true, I can’t think of many reasons why an innocent man would be “uncooperative.”

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    You clearly have never watched “DONT SPEAK TO POLICE”. this goes for any circumstance. do not even speak to them

  8. There are about a million Ravens fans that want to exact revenge for over a decade of taunts about Ray Lewis emenating from Pats fans, but we’re gonna stick with class…

    Innocent until proven guilty.

  9. A lot of people get questioned in crime of this magnitude …. Obviously,
    the vast majority have nothing to do with the crime itself… I’ll wait for the follow-up to the follow-up story…….

  10. @mrpresident2: The report of his being uncooperative with the police assumes that the police haven’t been a$$holes.

    I never make that assumption.

  11. Listen, this is just how some of us are raised. Many people from Latino / or actually Latin / backgrounds simply do not cooperate with the police. If you’ve ever been the target of racism from a police officer (and let’s just say them folks back east ain’t exactly friendly to the darker skin colors ; Hernandez is Puerto Rican and they are treated like Mexicans are treated in Arizona in New England) you never give anything to the cops except “Lawyer”. Especially if you don’t know what happened but circumstantial evidence is enough to bring you in for questioning.

    It’s kind of like the NSA stuff. The saying is “if you’re not guilty you have nothing to hide.” I call BS on that. If you’re not guilty then the government has to prove they have a reason to investigate you. We have the right to remain silent. Innocent until proven guilty. That’s the way it works in America.

  12. No reason to be uncooperative? The smart play is almost always to only do as much as is legally required of you in any investigation that holds this much weight. I would bet you $5 and a box of cereal that his lawyer told him to shut his trap. What happens if that dirty cop all of you are so willing to invite into your home isn’t, shall we say, all that into the Patriots? And I’m not suggesting planted evidence, that’s an extreme, but being cooperative can sometimes open up a can of worms on a perfectly innocent person.

    No reason to be uncooperative? Please. Y’all need to stop watching TV and get outside once in a while. Sometimes bad guys wear uniforms…

  13. Lets remember folks, this is the typical media throwing things out there that may not be true, i.e. the marathon bombing. The media is all about “breaking news” and they throw everything against the wall to see if it will stick. It would be nice if they were actually confirming sources, but that would mean they couldn’t say “as (insert station) reported first…”

    Hernandez being “uncooperative” could be as simple as not answering questions until his lawyer arrives.

  14. Any good lawyer would tell you to not talk to the police. The police just complain about people being uncooperative because they want suspects to make their job easier. Talking to police can’t help you if you’re guilty and can only hurt you if you are innocent.

  15. @concoursrider says:
    Jun 18, 2013 7:30 PM
    Lets remember folks, this is the typical media throwing things out there that may not be true, i.e. the marathon bombing. The media is all about “breaking news” and they throw everything against the wall to see if it will stick. It would be nice if they were actually confirming sources, but that would mean they couldn’t say “as (insert station) reported first…”

    Hernandez being “uncooperative” could be as simple as not answering questions until his lawyer arrives.
    —————-
    Yet here you are, reading it up…

  16. yes, I saw Tebow drive the get away car to a church parking lot and he put duct tape over the 1 on his jersey and it looked like 5 on his jersey. ya, that’s him.

  17. Uncooperative like he locked the door and refused to answer it while flushing things down the toilet?

    Or uncooperative like he isn’t saying anything because he doesn’t want to mistakenly say something which could lead to him going to the electric chair?

  18. 1. caught cheating

    2. commish destroys evidence

    3. mumble mouth couch

    4. mumble mouth coach doesnt shake opponents hand after playoff loss

    5. diminutive wide reciever makes offensive jokes about opposing head coach before play off game

    6. randy moss

    7. albert haynseworth

    8. ochocinco

    9. tebow

    10. effeminate owner loses ring to russian

    11. Murder???

    sounds like a circus to me

  19. All these wannabe tough guys saying he’s smart not to cooperate with the cops…. Put your NWA tape on pause….

    Where I come from, the cops will beat you a$$, plant evidence, and generally lie about what happened if you DON’T cooperate with them… but if you chat with them, laugh and b$, take it easy, they won’t bother you. That’s how they know you as “cool”, but if you act like Malcolm X, they’re gonna put you in your place.

    These kids are silly. It’s like they’ve never run into the cops at closing time….

    Dude is up THE creek, just watch….

  20. Nothing to see here, folks… can we change the subject…

    OMG, what about Cromartie’s kids? Let’s talk about that!

  21. Logicalvoicesayz.

    It’s not just Pats fans that make fun of Ray Lewis, it’s fans of all teams.

    Having said that, I think Ray has evened his Murder to Super Bowl ratio

  22. @bobhk Yet here you are, reading it up…

    Oh I didn’t realize you can’t read an article and disagree with it and make comments. GFY

  23. Rumors around town is that he killed a Bills fan…

    But that’s impossible

    There are no Bills fans

  24. The good thing about this post/story is that it’s bringing out a diff caliber of commenter. I like it.

    Where are y’all when I’m holding the line against all the mindless/racist/knee-jerk buffoonery that usually accompanies football-player-in-legal-trouble posts?

    Not cooperating with police is a common course of action for somebody of Hernandez’ demographic. Like every other post on PFT, don’t project your standards and perspectives on other folks if you’re actually trying to understand their story.

    the problem is, up until yesterday, keeping your mouth shut wasn’t an admission of anything. Now it might be. Read up on Supreme Court decisions, folks.

    #thanksarizona

  25. Stolen Super Bowl Rings by Russian Presidents

    Homicide investigations

    Jerry Jones doesn’t like being upstaged, we’ll be hearing from Cowboys land soon with something stupid.

  26. faithful209er: Where are you from? My daughter is a public defender, and the stories I’ve heard about police brutality, perjury, evidence planting, and on and on….

    She says the average person has no idea how easy it is to get snared in the legal system, all you need is a bad cop (there are such things), a lazy one, or one who’s had a few too many cups of Dunkin Donuts. Your odds go up dramatically if you’re not white.

  27. @jimjets:

    “5. diminutive wide receiver makes offensive jokes about opposing head coach before play off game”

    I agreed with every point up until you failed to explicitly mention that “opposing head coach” is Rex Ryan who is the biggest joke in the NFL.

    Like stupid father like stupid(er) son(s).

  28. To all those bitching about the Ray Lewis comparisons being juvenile, why not? Hernandez’s rental car, with the dead body of someone he knew, found after more than a day (people don’t report missing rentals?)? To me, Hernandez’s situation is by far worse than anything autorities thought they had on Ray-Ray. I know this for sure, if Ravens’ fans have had to deal with all the Ray “the Murderer” comments, enjoy your future Patsies.

  29. On Twitter, they showed pictures of the police going into AHern’s house and have taken away two suspects. Also later reports say that AHern being “uncooperative” are not true. As others said, let’s wait until things shake out a bit before conclusions are drawn. Whoever referenced Zimmerman, that’s a good comparison.

    I’ll be past disappointed if he is involved in the crime as far as the actual killing. Hoping maybe only the rental car in his name is the issue, and his desire not to get friends in trouble. He is from a rough area in CT, but he seems to have gotten his life straight and recently became a father. I’d hate it for his daughter if he were involved more than I’d hate it for my team. 😦

  30. jimjets says:
    Jun 18, 2013 7:41 PM
    1. caught cheating

    2. commish destroys evidence

    3. mumble mouth couch

    4. mumble mouth coach doesnt shake opponents hand after playoff loss

    5. diminutive wide reciever makes offensive jokes about opposing head coach before play off game

    6. randy moss

    7. albert haynseworth

    8. ochocinco

    9. tebow

    10. effeminate owner loses ring to russian

    11. Murder???

    sounds like a circus to me

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    Try and try if you must but the JETS are still the no ring circus!

  31. bostoncommon says: Jun 18, 2013 8:04 PM

    faithful209er: Where are you from? My daughter is a public defender, and the stories I’ve heard about police brutality, perjury, evidence planting, and on and on….

    She says the average person has no idea how easy it is to get snared in the legal system, all you need is a bad cop (there are such things), a lazy one, or one who’s had a few too many cups of Dunkin Donuts. Your odds go up dramatically if you’re not white
    ———————

    I’m from STOCKTON, CALIFORNIA, 209 area code…. and I’m not white.

    Do some research on Stockton if you want to know where I come from.

    Truthfully, you sound like you trust the system about like I do…. but you see it from a different angle. But out here, you’re gonna talk with cops, no matter what. It’s a war zone. If you act suspicious, you get put in one group. If you’re open with them, you’re put in a differrnt group. Nobody would purposely put themself in the suspicious groupo. That would be stupid, Aaron Hernandez stupid.

  32. mrpresident2 says: Jun 18, 2013 7:04 PM

    The only part of this that worries me is the uncooperative part.
    ———————
    Really? The best outcome you can hope for when speaking to a cop is being able to walk out of the station as free as when you got yanked in. Never talk to cops, ever.. theres no prize you can win, you can only hurt yourself, even if you are completely innocent.

  33. 1. Vehicle registered to Hernandez involved in a murder.

    2. The victim is an “associate” of Hernandez.

    3. Hernandez reportedly uncooperative.

    4. Hernandez’s house being swarmed by police.

    Doesn’t look good.

  34. I think we all know that regardless of whether you are innocent or guilty, you NEVER speak to police without your attorney, and you certainly don;t involve/cooperate with the media. Whatever you say WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU. Whatever you say WILL NOT BE USED TO EXONERATE YOU. This is how innocent people used to end up in jail for 30 years before DNA evidence proves their innocence. They are “cooperative” and that cooperation is used to get them to say one thing that can be distorted out of context and used to put them away. If it serves the needs of the union government hacks, that’s what they will do.

  35. Anyone, guilty or not, who fails to protect themselves under the 5th Amendment or their right to remain silent is a fool.

    Remember, “Anything you say can and will be used against you.” The Miranda Warning says nothing about helping you!

    Under this circumstance, talking to the police will not help Hernandez. Always get an attorney or you might end up in jail and/or prison.

  36. @concoursrider says:
    Jun 18, 2013 7:54 PM
    @bobhk Yet here you are, reading it up…

    Oh I didn’t realize you can’t read an article and disagree with it and make comments. GFY
    ———–
    Sure you can. You can do anything.

    You are so full of it.

    You say “Lets remember folks, this is the typical media throwing things out there…”

    If this is “typical” of media then why bother reading what is disagreeable? If this is typical, do you find yourself disagreeing with most things written?

    GTFO.

  37. I think we all know that regardless of whether you are innocent or guilty, you NEVER speak to police without your attorney, and you certainly don;t involve/cooperate with the media. Whatever you say WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU. Whatever you say WILL NOT BE USED TO EXONERATE YOU. This is how innocent people used to end up in jail for 30 years before DNA evidence proves their innocence. They are “cooperative” and that cooperation is used to get them to say one thing that can be distorted out of context and used to put them away. If it serves the needs of the union government hacks, ESPECIALLY IN MASSACHUSETTS, that’s what they will do. If the MASS STATE POLICE are involved, the odds go WAY WAY WAY UP.

  38. We are watching the beginning of the Patriot/Russian Cold War. Tebow, Gronkowski, this? These are no coincidences. Tebow is their only hope.

    He is our only hope.

  39. Whatever the case, I’m not gonna say a word to the cops after I invoke the 5th on my punk a$$ neighbors for bumping their mariachi cumbias on a Tuesday night….. lmfao j/k hahaha

  40. Bostoncommon: there are a lot of lawyers that should not be practicing law. They have lots of stories for when they lose … dirty cops, lying prosecutors, dishonest judges. The more they lose the more stories they have.

    I know there are a**hole and dirty cops. There is a time to talk and a time to be silent. The overwhelming percentage of cops are decent and honest. If you have information about a murder and it does not implicate you then help. If you are not sure or if the cop is an a**hole demand a lawyer.

    If you get a lawyer do not discuss anything with them until you are comfortable that they seem to know what they are doing.

  41. Up until last week Chip Kelly was the center of NFL news. Then Bill snatched the headlines back with the Tebow signing.

    Well they’ve gone one further with this bit o news. This is at the very least worth one video truck and a RV housing a production team.

    With associates detained, another found dead in the location where there’s a rental car signed out to you and the authorities are seeking a search warrant for your home.

    If it sounds like a suspect and he’s receiving attention like a suspect, he’s a suspect.

  42. His lawyer would tell him that there’s nothing to be gained by talking to the police.

    His agent would tell him he’s being paid millions of dollars to represent the Patriots organization, which so far has meant missing nearly half the games he was paid to play, and acting like a criminal. Maybe there’s worse things than being “co-operative”.

  43. Why should Hernandez be cooperative? Look at our own White House and the Administration?

    Holder admits lying to Congress, still working.

    Obama lies numerous times, still there.

    Lerner of IRS lies, won’t talk, gets paid administrative leave;

    Clinton lies, still working;

    Ha, funny citizens think it is okay to lie????

  44. No reason to be uncooperative? I thought you were a lawyer.

    I work very closely with law enforcement on a daily basis and trust most police officials immensely, but I would NEVER cooperate with a police investigation without first spending time with counsel. While 99% of police officials are honest, I wouldn’t stake my freedom and future on the one cop willing to frame me for something I didn’t do.

    No wonder you don’t actually practice.

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