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Within days of draft, Hernandez threatened Welker

Aaron Hernandez, Wes Welker AP

Stories continue to accumulate about the signs in Aaron Hernandez’s background, stories that paint a more complete if complicated picture about his character.

And according to the Boston Globe, he flashed a temper and made threats to one of the Patriots’ respected veterans within days of arriving for work.

In an anecdote near the bottom of a longer report, it was mentioned that Hernandez was at the team facility trying to watch film, when he grew frustrated at not being able to operate the equipment. Wide receiver Wes Welker walked by, Hernandez asked for help, and Welker replied: “Rookie, you figure it out.”

According to the report, Hernandez “responded with expletives.”

The Globe being a family publication, didn’t expound, but one of their reporters did on Twitter.

According to Shalise Manza Young, Hernandez’s reply was “f— you Wes, I’ll f— you up!

While rookies getting their backs up with veterans is not an uncommon act, the threat within a few days of being drafted was unusual, and as was noted, it was not said in a joking manner.

It was also reported in the newspaper that Hernandez spent “little, if any time with his Patriots teammates off the field,” preferring to surround himself with friends from his old neighborhood.

Taken on its own, the story might not be that big of a deal, especially within the legal context of “innocent until proven guilty.”

But coupled with everything else we’ve learned about Hernandez this week, it adds to the pile of anecdotal evidence which is becoming harder to ignore.

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154 Responses to “Within days of draft, Hernandez threatened Welker”
  1. wagerhope says: Jun 21, 2013 10:10 AM

    If these stories and anecdotes are true, which I tend to believe they are (even if in spirit and not details), I’m amazed the Pats have kept it under wraps this long.

  2. relggigeht says: Jun 21, 2013 10:12 AM

    Boston Wrong

  3. eagleswin says: Jun 21, 2013 10:12 AM

    The fact we are just hearing about this now, years later, goes to show that the Patriots are one of the best teams at covering up things.

    It’s the Patriot Way. Now that the cat is out of the bag, people are going to dig harder to see what else Kraft’s money and lawyers has been covering up all these years.

  4. humbleminded85 says: Jun 21, 2013 10:12 AM

    When keeping it real goes wrong.

  5. rex1979 says: Jun 21, 2013 10:13 AM

    THE U LIVES ON

  6. proteus914 says: Jun 21, 2013 10:13 AM

    Sounds like a great guy…doesn’t he? Some people never get it. Obviously Hernandez is one of those people.

  7. cali49er707 says: Jun 21, 2013 10:13 AM

    He seems like a man of his word.

  8. tim8450 says: Jun 21, 2013 10:13 AM

    Really what this shows is what a d-bag Welker was.

    If not for piling on Hernandez, there would be no football news at all. What next, he’s a bad tipper?

  9. green41563 says: Jun 21, 2013 10:14 AM

    Maybe a little time in the can will cool him off.

  10. tenotnamedmiller says: Jun 21, 2013 10:14 AM

    “Complicated”?

  11. painkiller20 says: Jun 21, 2013 10:15 AM

    Wes should have helped him out.

  12. ronaldmexico7 says: Jun 21, 2013 10:15 AM

    Yes…the Patriot Way. It all comes from the top. A phony dirt bag from a phony, cheating, dirt bag franchise. Where was all this info on big Aaron back then…covered up maybe? Now its time to throw him under the bus and move on. Despicable.

  13. demolition510 says: Jun 21, 2013 10:16 AM

    Hernandez obviously has anger management issues but that was kind of a dick move by Welker if true. I thought he was suppose to be a team leader, someone teammates look up to. It wasnt like Hernandez needed help hooking up a PS3. He was trying to look at film.

  14. jamaltimore says: Jun 21, 2013 10:17 AM

    Hernandez appears to have modeled himself after the lead guy in the great ESPN series “PLAYMAKERS”. Appears to be real scum but then again that pretty much starts at the top for the PATS with the great hooded one!

    Both hoodie and herndo were busted for destroying video’s but it looks like herndo is in for a much tougher penalty.

  15. daaabears says: Jun 21, 2013 10:17 AM

    He’s gonna get the chance to hang with his homies all he wants, and then some.

  16. dsimp724 says: Jun 21, 2013 10:17 AM

    Are we sure gronk isn’t having a bullet removed from his back? Just saying

  17. pioniere says: Jun 21, 2013 10:17 AM

    Punk. Hernandez wasn’t too nice either.

  18. peanutele24 says: Jun 21, 2013 10:18 AM

    Get off the juice bro

  19. rikker12 says: Jun 21, 2013 10:20 AM

    This guy will never play again in the NFL… The NFL will not allow a player of his character, play in there league….

  20. daburgher says: Jun 21, 2013 10:20 AM

    Dude does not deserve the privilage of playing in the NFL, regardless of the outcome of all of this.. Lets hope he doesnt get frequently teary eyed, while spewing bible verses, and becomes an NFL icon like that bum in baltimore

  21. elmaxoh says: Jun 21, 2013 10:20 AM

    Wow who’s this guy ? It’s not the Hernandez we used to know.

  22. dabears7190 says: Jun 21, 2013 10:21 AM

    Instead of telling Welker what he should have done to him, he should have just done it. The guy needed help watching game film. If he was asking Wes to help him hide a body, I’d understand that a little better.

  23. nickydagreek11 says: Jun 21, 2013 10:21 AM

    You think Bill Belichick had this in mind when he went and picked up Jake Ballard?!! Cause that pick up is looking better and better with day that goes by in this ridiculous thing…. Sounds like it was only a matter of time before Hernandez went off the hinge, smh

  24. rc33 says: Jun 21, 2013 10:22 AM

    Pointless. But let’s slander him any and every way possible. It’s what we do.

  25. steeelfann says: Jun 21, 2013 10:23 AM

    Wasn’t very nice of Wes. Way to be a team player Wes.

  26. garyleee says: Jun 21, 2013 10:23 AM

    What ah Punk!!! Hope justice prevails no matter who is guilty. Very sad an innocent man loses his life. No regard for life money or not

  27. thesteelers says: Jun 21, 2013 10:24 AM

    This guy is out of control.

  28. hotep999 says: Jun 21, 2013 10:25 AM

    i like it!

  29. fissels says: Jun 21, 2013 10:25 AM

    Looks like the dude’s got some serious issues. He’ll have time to deal with them in prison, I think

  30. canetic says: Jun 21, 2013 10:27 AM

    Sounds like Hernandez thought of himself as some sort of Godfather gangster. What a dope.

  31. vincentbojackson says: Jun 21, 2013 10:27 AM

    Even Pacman Jones thinks Hernandez needs check himself.

  32. thesteelers says: Jun 21, 2013 10:28 AM

    The Patriot way.

  33. louderthanwords1 says: Jun 21, 2013 10:29 AM

    Is it really a surprise that he spent little if any time with his teammates if on one of his first days he asks for help and that’s the help he gets from Welker?

  34. JC says: Jun 21, 2013 10:29 AM

    “tim8450 says: Jun 21, 2013 10:13 AM

    Really what this shows is what a d-bag Welker was.

    If not for piling on Hernandez, there would be no football news at all. What next, he’s a bad tipper?”

    Sorry timbo, Hernandez is bringing this onto himself by obstructing justice by destroying evidence in a murder investigation. I am sorry you are likely a Patrioits homer with a tat of Tom Brady’s face on your backside, but Welker did nothing wrong here. Rookies get crap, its part of the deal.

  35. blacknole08 says: Jun 21, 2013 10:29 AM

    Not trying to defend Hernandez, but it sounds like Welker was just being a jerk.

    If he was just asking for help and Welker really responded that way, that’s just unprofessional. Hernandez overreacted for sure though.

    It’s also not uncommon for teammates to not hang out outside of team activities.

    So for me, I’m taking the context of that particular situation into consideration.

  36. bgm9876 says: Jun 21, 2013 10:30 AM

    HE JUST SOUNDS LIKE A BAD GUY, DOESNT HE?

  37. thesteelers says: Jun 21, 2013 10:31 AM

    The Bengals are licking their lips, waiting for the Patriots to release him.

  38. rodgers419 says: Jun 21, 2013 10:32 AM

    Wes Welker created a murderer.

  39. Patskrieg dot com says: Jun 21, 2013 10:32 AM

    A little counterpoint anecdote for what it’s worth:

    I remember Hernandez’ rookie year when he wasn’t running his routes 100% correct and Brady used to chew him out and scream in his face on the field on national TV. Hernandez never lashed out and retaliated at Brady. He just took it.

    I grew up in a crummy ghetto town and real deal gangbanger idiots don’t respond well to that, no matter what the repercussions are. Hernandez has certainly screwed himself with some bad life choices here. But all I’m saying is that maybe he isn’t quite the psychopath monster we’d like to believe his is this week.

  40. sschmiggles says: Jun 21, 2013 10:32 AM

    Wow. And they extended him too?

    They made it look like he’d really turned the page. I thought character was a priority for this team. Very, very disappointed as a pats fan.

    Let this creep go now. He might be innocent in court but that doesn’t mean jack when you treat people like this.

  41. DiscountMescan says: Jun 21, 2013 10:33 AM

    So he couldn’t figure out the surveillance equipment or his iPhone, “f**ked them up and killed an “associate”? That’s a hell of a night. Gronk couldn’t even touch this guys style, shirt or no shirt.

  42. vincentbojackson says: Jun 21, 2013 10:33 AM

    So we can conclude two things:

    1) Hernandez has a raging temper
    2) Welker’s an a-hole

    Only good news for the Pats is that they won’t have to deal with either of them anymore.

  43. carmelaanthonysoprano says: Jun 21, 2013 10:33 AM

    I don’t think Welker was being a jerk, I would just chock it up into Veteran to Rookie hazing. It happens all the time, at every level of sports.

    Hernandez not showing proper respect to a well respected Veteran is what should be taken from that.

  44. thebluecoconuts says: Jun 21, 2013 10:35 AM

    rex1979 says:
    Jun 21, 2013 10:13 AM

    THE U LIVES ON
    ____________________________________

    Your wrong Sir, “The U” is Miami and Hernandez is from Thee University of Florida Gators!

  45. pftbillsfan says: Jun 21, 2013 10:35 AM

    Wow glad we’re not piling on. I heard he once farted and blamed it on a senior citizen. Then he hunted Unicorns.

  46. stealthjunk says: Jun 21, 2013 10:35 AM

    Not that Hernandez is a stand-up innocent guy, but I yell expletives at people every day and have never murdered anyone.

  47. Stupid Lions Fan says: Jun 21, 2013 10:37 AM

    Hernandez is innocent and he’ll be back on the field in no time.

    Signed, NFL hero Ray Lewis

  48. dirtyharry44 says: Jun 21, 2013 10:37 AM

    This guy is a poor excuse of a human and needs to be someone’s love child in prison.

  49. baddegg says: Jun 21, 2013 10:38 AM

    tim8450 says:
    Jun 21, 2013 10:13 AM
    Really what this shows is what a d-bag Welker was.

    ———–

    Wrong. I knew the “Welker is an a-hole” crew would come out. But you guys are missing the context. Welker was a vet; Hernandez was a rookie…it’s standard practice to give the rookies a hard time. That’s why the rookies carry the vets shoulder pads, etc.

    To pay your dues, rookies take the abuse and proove themselves..then can dish it out when THEY become vets.

    Blaming Welker in this situation is so wrong headed and shows little understanding of normal lockerroom dynamics.

  50. commonsensedude says: Jun 21, 2013 10:39 AM

    On the other hand, Hernandez is awfully lucky Welker’s wife didn’t go after him on Twitter. If she wasn’t afraid of Ray Lewis, I shutter to think what she would have said about him.

  51. BTC says: Jun 21, 2013 10:39 AM

    Eight of PFT’s 10 most commented has to do with Hernandez. Hahaha, wow.

  52. michaeloco5492 says: Jun 21, 2013 10:40 AM

    Why would the pats need to cover this up? This is a non-story, it most likely happens at 32 out of 32 team facilities…there are guys like Hernandez on every team.

  53. baddegg says: Jun 21, 2013 10:40 AM

    Haha. Aaron Hernandez was too dumb to operate a film projector.

  54. tommynatorii says: Jun 21, 2013 10:40 AM

    Titus Young appaluds Hernandez.

  55. realdealsteel says: Jun 21, 2013 10:42 AM

    Hernandez = Rae Carruth

  56. filthymcnasty1 says: Jun 21, 2013 10:42 AM

    Wait a minute. He couldn’t even operate the video equipment????

  57. spankygreen says: Jun 21, 2013 10:42 AM

    Oh no, this is not happening to such a storied character beyond reproach franchise…..Wait, my bad. I forgot, that the coach is a cheater,(some idiots are still associating him with being a genius) the owner dates chicks from middle school and the golden boy had a child out of wedlock….THE PATRIOT WAY????HELL YEAH!

  58. flash1283 says: Jun 21, 2013 10:43 AM

    ronaldmexico7 says:
    Jun 21, 2013 10:15 AM
    Yes…the Patriot Way. It all comes from the top. A phony dirt bag from a phony, cheating, dirt bag franchise. Where was all this info on big Aaron back then…covered up maybe? Now its time to throw him under the bus and move on. Despicable.

    —-
    Hey jealousy

  59. logicalvoiccsays says: Jun 21, 2013 10:44 AM

    Stay classy New England.

    #spygate #barnumandbailey #scumoftheearth #welkerisachode #BURGANDYandGOLDstandard

  60. bostonian13 says: Jun 21, 2013 10:44 AM

    People who believe these reports are idiots. Everything negative always comes out when a player has done something negative. This was almost 3 years ago, why is this being said now? Just a stupid report in my opinion.

  61. relggigeht says: Jun 21, 2013 10:45 AM

    I have to side with Hernandez in the Welker incident:)

  62. rcali says: Jun 21, 2013 10:45 AM

    The Patriot Way!

  63. jdragash says: Jun 21, 2013 10:45 AM

    @rex1979 :

    He didn’t go to the U dude. Get your facts straight.

  64. sampsonswag01 says: Jun 21, 2013 10:47 AM

    “While rookies getting their backs up with veterans is not an uncommon act…..”

    I have not clue what that means. Perhaps you meant “rookies bowing their chests up with vets is not an uncommon act….”

  65. qdog112 says: Jun 21, 2013 10:48 AM

    I heard he once farted on an elevator too, since we’re reverse engineering his character.

    This says something about Welker as well. Mainly that he’s crying like a little bish.

  66. Nick says: Jun 21, 2013 10:49 AM

    rc33 says:
    Jun 21, 2013 10:22 AM
    Pointless. But let’s slander him any and every way possible. It’s what we do.

    ———-

    If you’re going to make the accusation, at least correctly identify it as libel.

    Unless, of course, there was some spoken conversation none of us are privy to…

  67. RexCanCoach says: Jun 21, 2013 10:54 AM

    The circus may have left Jets camp but a greek tragedy has just joined the Pats…

  68. metitometin says: Jun 21, 2013 10:54 AM

    Sounds like a repeat of the Michael Vick situation. Vick was involved with some bad guys from his old neighborhood and the Falcons did nothing to stop it or get him to disassociate from his criminal friends. They didn’t try to take him under their wing or become his ‘Big Brother’. They just let him sink with his gangster buddies. I have no idea what Jim Mora Jr. was doing during this whole time.

    Pats should have tried to reach out to Hernandez more and become his ‘Big Brother’, especially considering they knew his was troubled, but perhaps Hernandez didn’t want that. He just wanted to be on his own. Patriots probably thought he could grow up on his own, but he clearly needed help and guidance.

    Perhaps Tebow could and will provide that guidance that Hernandez so desperately needs right now.

  69. thegenoatkinsdiet says: Jun 21, 2013 10:54 AM

    thesteelers says:
    Jun 21, 2013 10:31 AM
    The Bengals are licking their lips, waiting for the Patriots to release him.

    ————————————————–

    No, the Bengals’ propensity is for guys who get DUIs and go to strip clubs. The Steelers land the wife beaters and rapists. He seems more like a Ravens kind of guy.

  70. redsoxu571 says: Jun 21, 2013 10:55 AM

    To some of you, you don’t need to “thumbs down” people who point out that Welker is apparently a jerk himself…it doesn’t excuse Hernandez’s behavior.

    It does strike me as a silly anecdote…there are a lot of guys out there who could do really bad things who would never respond to a comment like Hernandez did to Welker, and there are many guys who would swear in response who would never cross the line any further.

    There is a whole lot of evidence as to the shadiness of Hernandez’s character. This little tidbit just strikes me at a revisionist attempt at profiling him as much as possible.

  71. scandiman says: Jun 21, 2013 10:55 AM

    The presumption of innocence no longer exists in this Orwellian Age. He will be tried and convicted by the public and the drive-by media long before the jury is out.

    The continuing media circus seems to show little regard for the victims who are enduring their loss.

  72. forevervike61 says: Jun 21, 2013 10:56 AM

    Welker the bad guy here? Vets talk to rookies like that everyday. Pats should know better than to draft and pay guy that kind of money whose name ends in ez

  73. kosarsmyidol says: Jun 21, 2013 10:58 AM

    At that point, Hernandez had just joined the organization, so whoever witnessed it wouldn’t have been familiar enough to know whether Hernandez was joking. For all we know, both Welker and Hernandez could have been joking in way that was consistent with typical hazing. Plus, Hernandez doesn’t sound like someone who makes idle threats, judging from the various reports that have been coming out.

  74. 1rockyracoon says: Jun 21, 2013 10:59 AM

    Too oftent “friends from the old neighborhood” are not a positive influence on the player (see Allen Iverson). I saw an interview with an NBA player (Baron Davis I think) and he talked about how his friends could join him in California only if they had a plan for themselves. He paid for one friend to go to college and he helped another one start a small business. Basically, they were not allowed to simply hang around and do nothing. Sadly, many athletes surroynd themselves with a bunch of do-nothing friends.

  75. mrmet21 says: Jun 21, 2013 11:00 AM

    O that pretty girl at the party doesnt look so hot now does she. The pats who were thought to b the model org have been exposed! Love it! As for hernandez he’s a bum picking up gronks leftovers. Bhutto ey brady the sun don’t shine forever

  76. croteus says: Jun 21, 2013 11:00 AM

    Wow, a lot of Welker bashing goin’ on. Seriously? If the worst thing that happened to Hernandez as a rookie was Welker telling him to figure out how to work a remote… he got it easy.

    What would Hernandez have done if Welker told him to carry his gear? I shudder to think..

  77. spitsfire says: Jun 21, 2013 11:01 AM

    “”No, the Bengals’ propensity is for guys who get DUIs and go to strip clubs. The Steelers land the wife beaters and rapists. He seems more like a Ravens kind of guy.””

    NO. Wrong again. He is a Patriot. Through and Through.

    The Pats have this guy on their team He is a Patriot. Dont forget that.

  78. ewoods6 says: Jun 21, 2013 11:02 AM

    Really don’t need a court to tell people if someone is guilty most of the time do we?

    Let’s not kid ourselves.

  79. phinfan says: Jun 21, 2013 11:03 AM

    Wes Welker got the last laugh

  80. exhelodrvr says: Jun 21, 2013 11:05 AM

    Can’t operate video equipment, and apparently has problems with cell phones and surveillance systems. He just needs to work at Frey’s for a couple of months, and he’ll be fine.

  81. themackstrong says: Jun 21, 2013 11:06 AM

    I am far from a Pats fan here. Now that the man may be going down, everyone’s out to throw stones at the guy. He was draft 2010..None of these stories come out, Up until Gronk got hurt Pats were looked at as brilliant for drafting the Hernandez. Revisionist history- he wasn’t because he is a gangster and I guess getting mad at a guy who is being a d*ck to you is gang related somehow. The story is already as crazy and wild, people don’t need to TMZ it up

  82. granadafan says: Jun 21, 2013 11:07 AM

    Hernandez must have thought he was still at Florida under Urban Meyer where players can get away with criminal behavoir like taking drugs, assaults, fights, shooting people, rape, or having classes and tests taken for them as long as they produced for Urban.

  83. joepescisballs says: Jun 21, 2013 11:08 AM

    Oh big deal. EVERYONE threatens Wes Welker. Hell, it’s not even 9:00 AM here and I’ve threatened him twice already.

  84. painsyndicate says: Jun 21, 2013 11:10 AM

    Subhuman trash will always be subhuman trash regardless of the circumstances.

    Adios Hernandez.

  85. birdsflynorth206 says: Jun 21, 2013 11:11 AM

    So this is the real reason why Welker left

  86. htownhawk says: Jun 21, 2013 11:11 AM

    Haters are always on the prowl. Your team is next. Adddddeeeraaalll hawks that’s me. Your team is next haters. Gohawks….

  87. schmitty2 says: Jun 21, 2013 11:14 AM

    Patskrieg dot com says:Jun 21, 2013 10:32 AM

    A little counterpoint anecdote for what it’s worth:

    I remember Hernandez’ rookie year when he wasn’t running his routes 100% correct and Brady used to chew him out and scream in his face on the field on national TV. Hernandez never lashed out and retaliated at Brady. He just took it.

    I grew up in a crummy ghetto town and real deal gangbanger idiots don’t respond well to that, no matter what the repercussions are. Hernandez has certainly screwed himself with some bad life choices here. But all I’m saying is that maybe he isn’t quite the psychopath monster we’d like to believe his is this week

    You’re right-because his history of altercations including shooting a man in the face is definetely not a sign on a psychopath. SMH

  88. bullcharger says: Jun 21, 2013 11:20 AM

    Give me a break… These guys get in full fist fights in practice. It’s the NFL. The guys all think they are tough or they wouldn’t be there. In hindsight it’s related, but no one would have linked that to future issues at the time.

  89. cavemanna says: Jun 21, 2013 11:21 AM

    Maybe he damaged the surveillance equipment because he couldn’t figure out how to watch the tape?

  90. thenew013 says: Jun 21, 2013 11:24 AM

    Hernandez is drawing attention away from Tebow.

  91. valhalla2013 says: Jun 21, 2013 11:26 AM

    rikker12 says: Jun 21, 2013 10:20 AM

    This guy will never play again in the NFL… The NFL will not allow a player of his character, play in there league….

    Are you drinking? It doesn’t matter in the NFL if you have any character, just if you can produce on the field unfortunately.

  92. bullcharger says: Jun 21, 2013 11:28 AM

    spitsfire says:Jun 21, 2013 11:01 AM

    “”No, the Bengals’ propensity is for guys who get DUIs and go to strip clubs. The Steelers land the wife beaters and rapists. He seems more like a Ravens kind of guy.””

    NO. Wrong again. He is a Patriot. Through and Through.

    The Pats have this guy on their team He is a Patriot. Dont forget that.

    ———————-

    So what? Why would anyone forget it. Plaxico was on the Giants… he shot himself and then he wasn’t on the Giants. Teams can protect against bad apples to some extent, but Hernandez played well enough and conducted himself well enough to have his contract renewed for big bucks. If the worst thing he did up until that time was be questioned outside of a club and threaten Wes Welker, I understand why they offered him the cash at the time. People are saying the Patriots now are living the mistakes of drafting him. That isn’t true, because he already worked out as a draft pick and they offered him a contract. Up until this thing that happened in February he is getting sued for, it doesn’t appear that he had done much wrong as a Patriot. Hindsight is 20-20. You can’t predict someone is going to get involved in a murder. Even the worst guys have mostly avoided this kind of nightmare.

  93. thebostonstrangler12 says: Jun 21, 2013 11:33 AM

    How will this be difficult for the Patriots to overcome?
    For God’s sake the Raiders drafted McClain and after his several violent outbursts(liking firing a bullet across a dude’s bow) the Ravens(how ironic) jumped at the chance of signing him in FA and we saw how that turned out. Is anyone talking about that now?

    No, they aren’t. The Patriots are not going to suffer as a franchise because of the (potential) actions of one player who was already known to have possible character issues. That is why he was available in the 4th round and given his solid start to being a pro why wouldn’t they have resigned him? Plenty of guys start strong in rookie contracts, get extensions and then fail to maintain ability afterward. Obviously if he ends up in jail and/or released it is for a much darker reason but that doesn’t mean the financial end of it from NE’s angle is any more profound than it would be if he had seriously dropped in ability or gone the route of getting injured out of the NFL. That happens all the time with every team in the NFL.

    As far as the moral implications on the team they are not responsible for actions of one individual regardless of how this plays out. Ravens get crap for having Lewis as a face of the franchise after the fact with his legal issues so obviously the Patriots won’t be regarded with the same hostility(excusing idiot trolls with 5 brain cells to their name) when they break ties with him due to his (potential) actions. It will go down as a bad business decision from their end of it. Nothing more.

  94. mountaingirl39 says: Jun 21, 2013 11:36 AM

    Amazed Welker didn’t send his Hooters Trophy Wife to take Hernandez out.

  95. dspyank2k11 says: Jun 21, 2013 11:40 AM

    But in the picture together they look so happy…

    in a tommy boy voice: “What’d you do???”

  96. b3nz0z says: Jun 21, 2013 11:44 AM

    i’ll bet hernandez could get that ring back from putin

  97. silvertusked says: Jun 21, 2013 11:48 AM

    Apparently he hasn’t figured out how to connect the video yet….

  98. prijak1 says: Jun 21, 2013 11:50 AM

    Wes Welker should helped Hernandez …. That’s good that Hernandez told him off …..

  99. lionsdraftguy says: Jun 21, 2013 11:50 AM

    He’d be a PERFECT 49er. Fits right in.

  100. jwcarlson says: Jun 21, 2013 11:50 AM

    1) Who knows what had gone on between Hernandez and Welker leading up to that. Maybe Welker was just trying to avoid the guy?

    2) Move the freaking “Report Comment link!!!

  101. patriotenvy says: Jun 21, 2013 12:02 PM

    He was reaching out for help and welker bullied him. That response was a cry for help.

  102. mrpresident2 says: Jun 21, 2013 12:05 PM

    Anyone who says Hernandez should have taken it because it’s just Welker hazing is completely wrong. He did over react, but Hernandez was trying to watch film to make the TEAM better, and Welker wouldn’t help him out. There’s a difference between a vet making a rookie carry his stuff and a vet refusing to help a rookie learn.

  103. zoxitic says: Jun 21, 2013 12:11 PM

    Those intimidation skills are gonna come in handy in jail.

  104. afamiliesstruggle says: Jun 21, 2013 12:13 PM

    Hernandez obviously has anger management issues but that was kind of a dick move by Welker if true. I thought he was suppose to be a team leader, someone teammates look up to. It wasnt like Hernandez needed help hooking up a PS3. He was trying to look at film.

    Wes Welker should helped Hernandez …. That’s good that Hernandez told him off ….

    Obviously the posters of these comments have never been in law enforcement or the fire service or the military. It was a situation where hazing was appropriate. This kindler gentler world is a bunch of crap. I was based as a rookie and I haze rookies it is the natural order of things. They have to earn the right to have a opinion. They are new do not speak untill spoken to. Untill rookies earn that right that’s what they are rookies, cubs, probies and other names that are not fir to print here.

    Get a life people and a grip on reality Welker did the right thing.

  105. rickt113 says: Jun 21, 2013 12:20 PM

    Don’t Forget this is the same Orginization that gave us “SPYGATE” and only got a slap on the wrist ! They have better Lock Down Security than the INS, FBI or CIA !

  106. dirtybird28 says: Jun 21, 2013 12:26 PM

    Though childish of Hernandez to say he’d eff Welker up, you can’t blame him for at least being frustrated that Welker, a respected multi-million dollar player didn’t help out a teammate in need. Be a bigger man and help the kid out instead of being a jerk. It does not justify Hernandez’ act by any means, but seriously…

  107. billsboy88 says: Jun 21, 2013 12:35 PM

    Kinda makes Welker seem like quite the jerk too if this is really how the exchange played out

  108. jayniner says: Jun 21, 2013 12:41 PM

    Welker probably said “Yeah, what are you gonna do about it?”

    If he only knew then what we all know now about Hernandez….

  109. channer81 says: Jun 21, 2013 12:54 PM

    Well he didn’t know how to use the video equipment at work, makes sense he destroyed it at work. Dam those instruction manuals, you gotta get stuff done.

  110. ronaldmexico7 says: Jun 21, 2013 12:54 PM

    Hey flash1283…here is a question. How do you shoot a guy in the face in February and no one knows about it? Especially after a lawsuit is filed? I guess the same way Urban Meyers (Bellie’s BFF) covered up the shooting Hernandez was involved in back in 2007. How do things like this never come to light?….that takes effort. So, the only way I would be jealous is if I was just not quite the cheater and criminal I could be and looked to the Hoodie for inspiration.

  111. hooterdawg says: Jun 21, 2013 12:57 PM

    It seems a lot of posters here know little about the rookie hazing tradition in the NFL. Welker made a point of reminding Hernandez that was what was occurring when he addressed him as ‘ rookie’.

  112. 23chameleons says: Jun 21, 2013 12:59 PM

    “Damn it feels good to be a gangsta” …

  113. greenbleeder says: Jun 21, 2013 12:59 PM

    U MAD BRO?

  114. geniusesq says: Jun 21, 2013 1:02 PM

    Keep it real I guess.

    dummy

  115. tyde4481 says: Jun 21, 2013 1:06 PM

    That sounds pretty bad – but remember Jay Cutler’s negative body language on the sidelines that one time? Now THATS a character issue PFT needs to investigate further, for the tenth time.

  116. taintedsaints2009 says: Jun 21, 2013 1:20 PM

    Percy Harvin. Watch out people. He and Hernandez were buddies in college. Same gangster attitudes. Harvin did this frequently in Minnesota. Why do you think the Vikings out him on IR so quickly last year?

  117. spideysdog says: Jun 21, 2013 1:24 PM

    Titus Young thinks this guy needs psychological help.w

  118. tdk24 says: Jun 21, 2013 1:26 PM

    He couldn’t operate the film equipment? What does the Play, Rewind, and Fast Forward buttons look like in Spanish?

  119. ningenito78 says: Jun 21, 2013 1:28 PM

    @rex1979- you realize he played for the U of Florida and not Miami right?

  120. TheWizard says: Jun 21, 2013 1:38 PM

    a lot of posters here know little about the rookie hazing tradition

    as stupid and outdated as it is

  121. silverhornet says: Jun 21, 2013 2:03 PM

    So he has a history with not knowing how to operate video equipment? Oh the irony on many levels.

  122. albertmn says: Jun 21, 2013 2:15 PM

    When taken out of context like this, it is hard to tell who is in the wrong. Not to defend either Welker or Hernandez, as things may have gone down exactly as noted. But, even if the info is right, do we know if they had any interactions prior to this? Were there other people that were there to help with this sort of thing other than a veteran player?

    And, to those claiming cover-up by the Pats, there are always little things like this that come up in situations like this. Things that didn’t seem like a big deal on their own, but when you pin a bunch of them together in hind sight after some other incident, everyone wants to know why something wasn’t done sooner. One guy freaking out, in and of itself, doesn’t mean the guy may be involved in a murder later.

  123. 1historian says: Jun 21, 2013 2:33 PM

    “it adds to the pile of incremental evidence that is becoming harder to ignore.”

    TRANSLATION

    “I have to get SOMETHING into print before they forget me.

    So – damn the facts full speed ahead.”

    What WAS that guy’s name?

  124. trollaikman8 says: Jun 21, 2013 2:40 PM

    Further proof that only bad things happen with Patriots and videotape are combined.

  125. dynaco says: Jun 21, 2013 2:49 PM

    Hernandez spent “little, if any time with his Patriots teammates off the field,” preferring to surround himself with friends from his old neighborhood.
    ————————————————-
    Aren’t they one in the same?

  126. markdlx says: Jun 21, 2013 3:05 PM

    Welker is a turd…why not help the Rookie? Instead you were just being a jerk.

  127. dynaco says: Jun 21, 2013 3:07 PM

    Pats have always strived to be a class act. However, just like the Wizard of Oz, remove the hoodie and they’re no different from most other teams. Minus the cameras of course.

  128. peytonsneck18 says: Jun 21, 2013 3:11 PM

    the new tony saprano…….rip

  129. azkev says: Jun 21, 2013 3:16 PM

    What a D*ckhead!

    Although, Hernandez also doesn’t seem like such a nice guy now either.

  130. beerndrums says: Jun 21, 2013 3:21 PM

    Whoever is responsible for drafting that guy is looking more and more like a genius

  131. legalguy60 says: Jun 21, 2013 3:21 PM

    Like a great coach once said “…..a criminal element”

  132. dam1976 says: Jun 21, 2013 3:29 PM

    Wow. Welker created this whole mess by not helping him with his game film. If he had helped him this may not have happened. Oh please give me a break loading up on welker. In regards to the security and cell phone footage, I don’t think it’s a big deal. I’m sure belichick has got the film some where”SPYGATE”.

  133. crisisofinfinitephils says: Jun 21, 2013 3:41 PM

    Was Welker wrong for not helping? Was Hernandez wrong? I can’t say for sure but I tend to side with the guy who doesn’t shoot people in the head.

  134. rjp1130 says: Jun 21, 2013 3:44 PM

    Is this a bad time to use that joke about the Tight End that goes to prison and comes out a Wide Receiver?

  135. thebostonstrangler12 says: Jun 21, 2013 3:52 PM

    I love that my comment earlier got a handful of thumbs down but no responses.

    The Patriots will not be affected by this with respect to reputation because his (potential) actions took place AFTER they drafted him and AFTER they extended him which occurred due to high performance during his rookie contract.

    I am not bashing the Ravens here and I was not there that night that Lewis got caught up in a homicide so I don’t know anything but I have no problem stating this obvious fact again…

    People talk crap about Baltimore because they made Ray Lewis the face of their franchise AFTER he had already had those legal issues and they cemented their lack of concern with character devoid players by going after Rolando McClain upon Lewis’ retirement.. Thumbs down my comment all you want but clearly none of you who did had a viable response so it just makes me laugh.

    It never ceases to amaze me what idiots do in the face of sound logic.. Congrats, the dislike button was primarily implemented for people like you who can’t form a complete sentence let alone a compelling argument.

    And seriously… Spygate references? Keep it up retards and eventually the government may grant you disability checks because clearly you have no brain. Look up the rules concerning spygate and then remind yourself that 01,03,04 came before 06.. Then off yourselves for the betterment of mankind.

  136. jamesbo13 says: Jun 21, 2013 5:59 PM

    to all the uninformed bashers (aka voters) just maybe wes couldn’t believe that a college grad was really that stupid. or maybe they already had a previous runin and it was payback time. or just maybe it never happened or it didn’t happen the way it was reported. should I go on? no, because all you baahers are in the same class as nandez. trash talkin idiots wit no character!!

  137. asspadtycoon says: Jun 21, 2013 6:15 PM

    Spygate references are appropriate. It says a lot about the type of organization this is from the top down. Maybe this is Karma in action — repayment for the Pat’s cheating to beat my Rams in the Superbowl…lol I did like your post until the spygate part… seriously, I’m retarded because I link the fact that this is an organization that will do anything within it’s means to win, to them now having to deal with their poor choices? It is related “Boston Strangler12″. Do you say “retard” without pronouncing the “R”?

  138. mrlaloosh says: Jun 21, 2013 8:41 PM

    Wow people. Lets just bring him to Boston Commons and execute him. You idiots need to get a life.

  139. patsfancandy says: Jun 21, 2013 8:44 PM

    Wow what haters talk as if you know him or you where there for all of these so called accusations !!! It’s the media and if you don’t know by now you can’t believe everything you read or hear then your in no position to judge anyone else. Until all the facts have been proved and revealed everyone is innocent until proven guilty!!!

  140. fearthehoody says: Jun 21, 2013 8:49 PM

    Oh my!!!! You can tell who never played sports past freshman year by this article and responses. Those confrontations happen everyday on teams. He yelled at someone, he must be a murderer right?

  141. gabyguti15 says: Jun 22, 2013 3:00 AM

    Guilty until proven innocent. Right?

  142. backdraft440 says: Jun 22, 2013 6:37 AM

    This just shows what a creep Welker is!

  143. jaypell says: Jun 22, 2013 9:21 AM

    Lock this dude up already yo

  144. deywho says: Jun 22, 2013 10:34 AM

    Just playing devil’s advocate – we don’t know if there were any prior incidents between Wes and Hernandez that could have provoked this… who knows, I could careless either way – oh well he told you to figure it out yourself, cry me a river…

  145. vimmer85 says: Jun 22, 2013 10:36 AM

    Yes!!! Brady is finally going to be exposed for the futuristic robot that he is.

  146. trajan2448 says: Jun 22, 2013 1:10 PM

    Welker did nothing wrong. That is SOP for rookies who have yet to prove themselves.

  147. trajan2448 says: Jun 22, 2013 1:12 PM

    Many of the comments are so stupid it makes one wish they made people get a license to watch TV.

  148. rjc32586 says: Jun 22, 2013 1:46 PM

    IF this story is true, there is no excuse for going off on a teammate to such an extreme degree. Hernandez should undoubtedly be criticized for that.

    But I also have to agree with those who say Welker comes off like an ass here, even if most of you are giving that idea the thumbs down. A few people have rightly pointed out that this wasn’t some standard thing like carrying a veteran’s pads. This was a veteran hurting his team by refusing to help a rookie who wanted to improve his game. If you insist on “putting him in his place,” make some sort of sarcastic remark about the rookie not knowing how to use professional video equipment AS you help him.

    In six years with the Patriots, Wes Welker was Tom Brady’s favorite receiver and put up amazing statistics. Yet for some reason, his teammates never saw fit to elect him a team captain. I think this anecdote may be some evidence of why that is. Welker essentially replaced Troy Brown in 2007. I have no doubt in my mind that Brown would have taken 15 seconds out of his day to help out a rookie who was trying to put the work in to get better.

  149. datschu says: Jun 22, 2013 10:48 PM

    I’ve been to prison in one of this nations most violent prison systems.. California. My very first cellar out of reception had 343 years to life for two bare handed murders! THAT was a tough mofo! Hernandez was a prankster who acted tough because he could afford it! They’ll make an example out of him in the penn. and he’ll get extorted and have to pay other inmates for protection. I guarantee it!

  150. bn2n2me says: Jun 25, 2013 2:00 PM

    If reporters told you the sky just turned orange and is raining beef jerky would you believe that too?? Yall are just…IGNORANT for no reason, d@mn.

  151. jamespepe58 says: Jun 26, 2013 9:22 PM

    So why didn’t Kraft send Hernandez to get his ring back from Putin? Its a win/win type of situation for Kraft…

  152. Mr. Wright 212 says: Jun 27, 2013 9:38 AM

    Sounds more like he could have been joking there. Many of us who have played on teams know how that goes.

    But in all actuality, the fact that this is just becoming known (as the Patriots try to distance themselves from Hernandez more and more), with the Patriots’ blessing, no less, this just makes the Boston media and the team itself look bad for covering up mounds of bad news that most other teams cannot keep quiet.

  153. svn2011 says: Jun 27, 2013 10:42 AM

    Firstly the ‘Patriot Way’ is a media creation and some ex players keep saying it. Belichick never mentions the ‘patriot way’.
    Secondly, if some rookie today in some locker room responds like he did to wes, what should the team do ? cut him ? Put it out in the media they are disciplining him ?
    I dont get what was there to cover up which the pats were able to keep under wraps ? Its not like they harbored a murder suspect for 3 yrs ?
    Yes everything he said then now looks worse but please, until 2 weeks ago…no one including any of the ex pats player thought/knew he was this person. Easy to blame somebody right now but the only culprit is AHern. He took everyone for a ride.

  154. m2karateman says: Jun 27, 2013 10:46 AM

    Those of you criticizing Welker are fools. You honestly think Welker is at fault here? Ragging on the rookies is the indoctrination process in the NFL, and it’s not going to change. Veterans are going to do this, and certainly Welker isn’t the first. Someone asks for help, sometimes the answer given is no. It doesn’t make Welker a bad guy, it makes him an NFL veteran responding to a rookie. Hernandez went overboard with his response, and he’s the dick. Now that he’s involved in a murder I think that point is proven. Welker is not at fault in anything.

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