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Pond search yields “no evidence”

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Police searched a pond near the home of Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez.  According to Kevin Manahan of USA Today, they found nothing.

[N]o evidence,” an unnamed officer told Manahan after the search, which lasted roughly an hour.

What were they looking for?  “Evidence,” the officer said.  (The guy must be related to Gregg Popovich.)

Police also searched a nearby wooded area with metal detectors.  The presence of metal detectors makes clear that they were looking for the gun that was used to kill 27-year-old Odin Lloyd.

It remains unclear whether the police were simply being thorough or whether they had reason to believe the gun was in the pond or somewhere close by.

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  1. purplengold says: Jun 24, 2013 1:22 PM

    Stay tuned, next it’s the dive team.

  2. nyyjetsknicks says: Jun 24, 2013 1:24 PM

    They only took an hour to search? Was this a pond or a rain puddle?

  3. strokinmyego says: Jun 24, 2013 1:25 PM

    The police are doing this as a scare tactic. Hernandez was definitely involved with the murder, but perhaps he did not pull the trigger himself but knows who did. If the police know this and if Hernandez won’t cooperate they may be trying to scare him into coming clean, the police would be doing this knowing that Hernandez as a millionaire and NFL player has a ton to lose here.

  4. rc33 says: Jun 24, 2013 1:25 PM

    How about Whitey Bulger?
    Did they find anything incriminating against him?

  5. Steeley McBeam says: Jun 24, 2013 1:27 PM

    Pretty sure all this is normal in any murder investigation. Speculation is just being fueled by the media stakeout at the house.

    Lets at least wait and see what hes charged with before we make any judgements.

  6. silverhornet says: Jun 24, 2013 1:32 PM

    wonder if they are checking the local landfills as well… ie where the cleaners on Monday took their trash.

  7. gochargersgo says: Jun 24, 2013 1:33 PM

    The part time legal analysts/ part time PFT message board trolls are flabbergasted.

  8. purpleguy says: Jun 24, 2013 1:34 PM

    Instead, they found Jimmy Hoffa.

  9. thegreatgabbert says: Jun 24, 2013 1:37 PM

    While all this is going on, the people who stole Aaron’s gun, smashed his cell phone, destroyed his home surveillance system, and made a mess inside his house walk free.

  10. whatnojets says: Jun 24, 2013 1:41 PM

    “Just the facts, ma’am”

    Don’t think drugs had anything to do with this.
    I could have been a relationship gone bad between two of the four in that group

  11. pinion8ted says: Jun 24, 2013 1:41 PM

    “Ya got nuthin’ on me, Coppers!”

  12. surfinbird1 says: Jun 24, 2013 1:42 PM

    They’re lookin’ for that damn arrest warrant.

  13. brettfavresmidget says: Jun 24, 2013 1:44 PM

    I betcha they stumble upon Jimmy Hoffa’s remains. Write it down.

  14. brettfavresmidget says: Jun 24, 2013 1:45 PM

    purpleguy says:
    Jun 24, 2013 1:34 PM
    Instead, they found Jimmy Hoffa.

    brettfavresmidget says:
    Jun 24, 2013 1:44 PM
    I betcha they stumble upon Jimmy Hoffa’s remains. Write it down.

    ____________________________________

    HA! Wasn’t there when I typed mine…

  15. steelbreeze676 says: Jun 24, 2013 1:46 PM

    Is it me or does it seem like this investigation is yielding no results? Step it up, police.

    And Hernandez should never play another down in the NFL regardless.

  16. thegreatgabbert says: Jun 24, 2013 1:46 PM

    Looking for the remains of the other two associates.

  17. dublindemonszfl says: Jun 24, 2013 1:47 PM

    When they tried to blame a murder on me they didn’t search the pond by my house. whew.

  18. floratiotime says: Jun 24, 2013 1:47 PM

    I’d search Belichick’s house.

  19. nobreak1269 says: Jun 24, 2013 1:48 PM

    pats season is OVER before it begins this year.No way belicheat can handle the distractions of Hernandez AND Tebow.Long live the JETS!!

  20. salmen76 says: Jun 24, 2013 1:50 PM

    I imagine they already have the gun. I believe they are still looking for a side-view mirror from the rental car found near the body. I also believe that Hernandez may be the “shooter”. If his involvement in this murder was as small as everybody is making it out to be they would have already arrested him. I think they are dotting the i’s and crossing the t’s very carefully. This is starting to make “Bounty Gate” look like a church pinic! Ha Ha! Geaux Saints!

  21. rufustfireflyjr says: Jun 24, 2013 1:50 PM

    whatnojets says:
    Jun 24, 2013 1:41 PM

    “I could have been a relationship gone bad between two of the four in that group”

    Since one of them got killed, I’d say that was a pretty safe bet.

  22. randy001 says: Jun 24, 2013 1:51 PM

    I’m almost always wrong, but:
    -He could have damaged the home security system for some reason other than the murder (say, sex with chickens or something.)
    -One man’s smashed cell phone is another man’s dropped and cracked. Ask the NSA what was on it.
    -Just because a car he rented was at the crime scene doesn’t mean he shot anybody, drove it or even knew it was there.

    And not to put too fine a point on matters but 3 people died in a shooting in Roxbury Saturday night; think that crime scene has police from three different agencies crawling all over it?

    This whole story is tired.

  23. fryeways says: Jun 24, 2013 1:55 PM

    “The presence of metal detectors makes clear that they were looking for the gun that was used to kill 27-year-old Odin Lloyd.”

    The presence of metal detectors doesn’t clearly indicate anything, other than that they were looking for some metal object tied to this case. Please leave the speculation aside – it doesn’t do anything to help solve this horrible crime.

  24. soundsofsuccess7 says: Jun 24, 2013 1:57 PM

    I hope they get this guy for whatever he’s guilty of.

    Sick of athletes getting special treatment in court.

    Hernandez shouldn’t play another down if he indeed had a role like the police seem to think.

  25. patriots123456 says: Jun 24, 2013 2:00 PM

    It’s called “Frog Pond”.

    One Frog lives in it, and it has already been declared “overcrowded”.

  26. peytonwantsaflag says: Jun 24, 2013 2:02 PM

    “Police also searched a nearby wooded area with metal detectors. The presence of metal detectors makes clear that they were looking for the gun that was used to kill 27-year-old Odin Lloyd.”
    —————————————————————

    I don’t know, if I was a cop I’d have those metal detectors out ever chance I had- Those things find, coins, and gold, and pirate treasure. All kinds of stuff.

  27. thesteelers says: Jun 24, 2013 2:05 PM

    You know the Hoody has it all on camera. He has everything on camera. The only question is whether Goodell destroyed the tape or not.

  28. deadeye says: Jun 24, 2013 2:07 PM

    This is becoming a nightmare for the NFL and/or the Patriots. What happens if no charges are ever brought against AH, or charges are brought and a jury finds him not guilty?

    The league will have a hard time justifying a suspension for a player found not guilty or who is never indicted, and will have a harder time letting him play even though he is perceived as guilty in the court of public opinion.

  29. filthymcnasty1 says: Jun 24, 2013 2:07 PM

    They managed to find the one pond near Boston that didn’t have any dead bodies floating in it.

  30. @Cereal_22 says: Jun 24, 2013 2:07 PM

    They look like the same two cops in the pic from the first article. Man, cut backs…

  31. jrcoop says: Jun 24, 2013 2:11 PM

    The commissioner destroyed it.

  32. emoney826 says: Jun 24, 2013 2:15 PM

    I thought this was a story about how there’s no evidence that Ponder was a professional quarterback. My bad.

  33. kinggator says: Jun 24, 2013 2:17 PM

    Are you sure they’re not looking for Mr Kraft’s misssing Super Bowl ring?

  34. alskdh says: Jun 24, 2013 2:20 PM

    “soundsofsuccess7
    Jun 24, 2013, 11:57 AM MDT
    I hope they get this guy for whatever he’s guilty of.

    Sick of athletes getting special treatment in court.

    Hernandez shouldn’t play another down if he indeed had a role like the police seem to think.”

    Anyone who has even spent a minute in a jail knows that no one should ever have to be warehoused like that ever.

    I am happy to see people with money, street smarts and lawyers, not be intimidated by police and legal technicalities.

    Hernandez had 3 girls (not one, not two..) stop by over the weekend while he is kicking back, watching flix, getting some downtime, while journalists are having a field day.

    He’ll be back on the field week 1, and pft and espn now have years worth of material and irreverent posts about him.

    Infact they should be paying him for what he helped them with.

  35. phillyjeff says: Jun 24, 2013 2:21 PM

    Brady did it.

  36. purplekoolaid1 says: Jun 24, 2013 2:26 PM

    I love when people give a straight and non-dramatic answer to the media, who in turn make it sound like the answer wasn’t good enough. If they are looking for evidence, then they are looking for evidence. It isn’t our business to know which type of evidence exactly.

    I guess a straight answer isn’t sensationalistic enough.

  37. ibreathefootball says: Jun 24, 2013 2:26 PM

    He was just using his 2nd amendment rights, whats wrong with this? lol guns suck

  38. jeffa43 says: Jun 24, 2013 2:28 PM

    Anyone thought of interviewing the cleaning company? They scrubbed the house right? What substances were on the towels, mops, sponges?

    Seems like a logical thought, but have not heard anything in that regard.

    You or I would have already been sentenced…

    On second thought most of us are to busy working to provide for our family’s or pay bills to live, to be this stupid.

    You had 40 million, and played a sport you useless tool…
    Congrats on upping your street cred …moron.

  39. conspiracygenerator says: Jun 24, 2013 2:29 PM

    9 of the top 10 on “PFT Most Commented” are in regards to Aaron Hernandez. Methinks i see a pattern.

  40. ringheadcrusher says: Jun 24, 2013 2:30 PM

    I wonder if Ray Lewis has called Hernandez yet to offer solidarity and tips on what you can do as an NFL star to get out of this type of situation.

    Killas unite!

  41. patriots420 says: Jun 24, 2013 2:32 PM

    It is becoming obvious the police have nothing on Hernandez, other than the circumstantial connecting of dots. No murder weapon, no motive, no white suite, in other words nothing to proove beyond a reasonable doubt.

    See you at training camp #81

    I will welcome him back to the team with open arms

  42. turdfurgerson68 says: Jun 24, 2013 2:36 PM

    Innocent until proven guilty.

    Not saying he is, but until he is charged and convicted, he’s a free man.

    Sorry haters. Go live in North Korea if you don’t like our criminal justice system.

    And yes, no one is stopping you from expressing your views per the 1st amendment…no matter how boorish they may be.

  43. ripster65 says: Jun 24, 2013 2:38 PM

    silverhornet says: Jun 24, 2013 1:32 PM

    wonder if they are checking the local landfills as well… ie where the cleaners on Monday took their trash.
    —————————–
    Along those lines, I’d like to know what they saw when they were cleaning. Certainly they’ve been questioned by now…?

  44. jwil007 says: Jun 24, 2013 2:45 PM

    Why the dogs at the house?? Sniffing out guns or drugs or both??? What was Odin’s connections to Aaron??? If the other 2 turned on him and said they would testify would they not have issued the murder warrant already?? Would the police have searched the pond if these were some Hood dudes from Boston??? All good questions…

  45. frylock73 says: Jun 24, 2013 2:46 PM

    strokinmyego – i think your right, he knows who the killers are, it was a drug deal gone bad. he was never there but i bet his money was involved in a drug purchase

  46. ihatethenfl says: Jun 24, 2013 2:48 PM

    Are you sure they’re not looking for Mr Kraft’s misssing Super Bowl ring?
    —————————————————-
    The Giants actually stole it on February 26, 2008.

  47. tharoostah says: Jun 24, 2013 2:53 PM

    I have a bad feeling these cops are just completely botching this investigation. Officer, why did you have to go back and search the house a second time?

    “Yeah, we already searched it once but we missed a dozen bags of evidence and figured we better spend about another 5 hours in there after he had 2 days to continue hiding stuff”.

    Lol maybe that’s why Aaron was so stupid about covering this thing up. He figued the local imbecile cops just had no chance at having a competent investigation

    “Hey Favra, you think we should search this pond?”
    “Yeah lets pick up a few more doughnuts first, I’m working on my buoyancy.”

  48. damnsureis says: Jun 24, 2013 3:08 PM

    “I imagine they already have the gun. I believe they are still looking for a side-view mirror from the rental car found near the body. I also believe that Hernandez may be the “shooter”. If his involvement in this murder was as small as everybody is making it out to be they would have already arrested him. I think they are dotting the i’s and crossing the t’s very carefully. This is starting to make “Bounty Gate” look like a church pinic! Ha Ha! Geaux Saints!”

    The car with the missing side mirror was returned to the rental company. It wasn’t the one found by the body.

  49. nomoreseasontix says: Jun 24, 2013 3:09 PM

    How can anyone search a pond in an hour?

  50. cranespy says: Jun 24, 2013 3:10 PM

    They are doing what is called “due diligence”…. the tighter the work done prior to any arrest the tougher it will be for whomever/whom all is/are arrested. Hernandez is in trouble for certain…..how much depends on where the evidence leads. I will not speculate on his involvement….but I will predict one thing….he will not play another down for the Patriots….when he turned over a busted cell phone and the police found that the video security system had been damaged…..Mr Kraft heard all be needed to hear….he is done in NE. The meetings since have been about who will be the next man up AND is now the time to groom Tebow for a playing role??

  51. jrcoop says: Jun 24, 2013 3:14 PM

    patriots420 says: Jun 24, 2013 2:32 PM

    It is becoming obvious the police have nothing on Hernandez, other than the circumstantial connecting of dots. No murder weapon, no motive, no white suite, in other words nothing to proove beyond a reasonable doubt.

    See you at training camp #81

    I will welcome him back to the team with open arms
    —————————————————-
    Anyone surprised? Of course not, even though most won’t admit it, he’s critical to the Patriots right now. Better to blindly embrace someone obviously involved with a murder, than for our favorite team to lose, right? Keep it classy NE.

  52. mackie66 says: Jun 24, 2013 3:31 PM

    S.O.P. nothing else? but, in order to secure a search warrant you must have PC. (probable Cause) that a crime has been committed or is being committed, or might be committed(conspiracy).
    This is just now getting interesting. Hernandez may or may not be arrested for any charge. You can have a murder trial with no weapon,,,but,,,
    more importantly is motive. No one has mentioned motive. Drugs, women, money owed? Gang related,,,,the possibility are endless.
    Who done it?

  53. dynaco says: Jun 24, 2013 3:36 PM

    Memo to Boston PD:
    Please solve this case before the Pats start their road games and someone else gets killed.

  54. japmen says: Jun 24, 2013 3:47 PM

    Take your time Boston PD. As cops, I know you will screw this up royally but at least eat up some of the pats season. Of course Hernandez won’t be there this year but keep the questions rolling every week.

  55. ricardocabeza says: Jun 24, 2013 3:48 PM

    Maybe Hernandez could hire the same guys OJ hired to find “the real killers.”

  56. hawkforlife says: Jun 24, 2013 3:53 PM

    The presence of metal detectors makes clear that they were looking for the gun that was used to kill 27-year-old Odin Lloyd.

    It does? Not saying it doesn’t but as a “reporter” of sorts you should maybe think a little farther ahead. Could be they were looking for the hard drives from the security system that was trashed, maybe a metal box with drugs, maybe a gun. Who knows but that’s why we readers sometimes get frustrated with PFT for throwing things out to see what sticks.

  57. patriotinvasion says: Jun 24, 2013 3:55 PM

    It’s hilarious how nearly every single piece of news from this story has been pure speculation from fans and media on what might have happened and who knows what.

    One week later, some of the speculation has morphed into “facts” when we don’t even know if the initial speculation contained any real truth to begin with.

    Until Hernandez is arrested and charged with a crime, I’ll withhold judgement on his ability to play for the Patriots this season. As of right now, he’s eating chips on his couch and watching Full House reruns as a free man.

  58. petedutcherjr says: Jun 24, 2013 3:56 PM

    I’m afraid this is looking like the police have decided someone is guilty without the evidence to prove it. If Hernandez is not guilty they are completely wasting time.

    Clearly they have nothing at all. They would not be trying so many avenues without bringing charges if they had what they needed.

    I think people are misjudging Hernandez. Or at least judging him as guilty too soon.

  59. petedutcherjr says: Jun 24, 2013 4:00 PM

    btw…the busted cell phone thing? It doesn’t matter. All they need is the little card inside and all is good.

    So obviously the phone had nothing on it either.

  60. patriots123456 says: Jun 24, 2013 4:19 PM

    I believe the MA State Police are handling this investigation: They are a very capable law enforcement agency. North Attleboro is a small town on the Rhode Island border. So the Boston Police are not involved IMO.

    They will get to the bottom of it.

  61. bryans49ers says: Jun 24, 2013 4:20 PM

    The trail has gone cold! The reason he hasn’t been brought in on lesser charges is he has a very powerful legal team and the DA can not risk over reaching here or risk being destroyed by Hernandez counsel. Must give Hernandez and his whole effort to avoid this mess an A+. The NFL can’t even touch an uncharged man and Hernandez lawyers have warned the league office and the Patriots to stay out of it and do not make any comment that my slander our client or we will file huge suit

  62. trollingforjustice says: Jun 24, 2013 4:24 PM

    The housecleaning crew were told to get rid of all scum….including the ponds

  63. jenkins31 says: Jun 24, 2013 4:24 PM

    Who knows what happened or who done it. Until this case goes to trial or some major break comes in the case and is made public, all we have is a lot of speculation. Right now it looks pretty bad for AH and his boys but there could be another side to this that we may never know about. It’s fun for some to play the blame or guessing game, but the young man that was killed and his family deserves justice to be served and I hope that’s what happens. Regardless if Hernandez had a hand in it or not.

  64. swagger52 says: Jun 24, 2013 4:47 PM

    It is an Epic Battle of the Titans.

    It pits Boston Strong versus Boston Wrong

  65. mike83ri says: Jun 24, 2013 5:32 PM

    “What are you searching for?”

    “…”

    “Evidence.”

    All I can see reading this is Bill Belichick as a cop giving one of his typical “F U” non-answers lol.

  66. freemanator says: Jun 24, 2013 5:37 PM

    Just a quick memo to those ready to play judge, jury and executioner.

    As things stand there is only one ‘source’ who ‘spoke’ to one news agency, that has mentioned the cleaners, the cell phone and the security system.

    All of those things are far from established facts, and if true he’d likely have been arrested on OOJ charges already, and not left to destroy more evidence.

    They could then continue to pressure him, while also having time to add other charges as they see fit.

  67. upperdecker19 says: Jun 24, 2013 5:47 PM

    “Yeah, I’ve got a pool, got a pool and a pond. The pond would be good for you.”

  68. rtant2013 says: Jun 24, 2013 6:03 PM

    @japman

    Ugh North Attlesboro is not in Boston, or anywhere in their jurisdiction, so why would Boston PD be doing anything on this case? And all the footage I’ve seen from AH’s house has all had State police patrol cars in front of it. And at brians49ers, I highly doubt AH’s lawyers have said anything to the NFL or the Pats. Goodell can easily kick him out of the league, solely because he is involved in this mess, or the Pats can release him because he is bringing bad publicity towards their team. Hernandez isn’t in a situation where he can make demands as you seem to think he is. And just because they are looking for what we all assume is the gun, doesn’t mean they don’t have evidence, it is a lot easier case if they have the murder weapon, and with such q high profile case, I’m sure they want all their bases covered.

  69. nepatssuperbowlchamps says: Jun 24, 2013 7:02 PM

    I heard today Aaron’s girlfriends sister did it , two totally different sources , one I would say is very reliable .

  70. xcerebus1 says: Jun 24, 2013 7:58 PM

    I can just see the story now: ‘as an aged Aaron Hernandez was stepping up for his acceptance speech at the pro football hall of fame, investigators executed a search warrant for the hall and parking lot……no evidence was found. An unnamed law enforcement source as said an arrest warrant has been issued.’

  71. gbpakrfan says: Jun 24, 2013 9:13 PM

    Tim Tebow did it…

  72. pinion8ted says: Jun 25, 2013 1:43 AM

    At this point, the police have not:

    Provided a murder weapon

    Provided the clothing that Hernandez or the other two wore the night Lloyd was killed

    Provided evidence of a Gun Shot Residue test performed on Hernandez or the other two

    Provided a bullet

    Provided a comparison of a bullet from Lloyd compared to a bullet fired in the Florida case

    Provided any records from the Provider of Hernandez’s cell phone

    Provided evidence that places Hernandez HIMSELF – not just one of his rental vehicles – at the scene of the crime

    So far, all the police have proven is that Hernandez was one of the last people to see Lloyd alive, and he happens to live near the crime scene.

    You can’t charge someone on that, alone, or they already would have, and Hernandez knows it. He has absolutely NO REASON to talk to the police at this point.

    I’m not saying Hernandez is innocent – by ANY means – but last time I checked, the government has to provide PROOF that someone murdered someone else. Right now, they haven’t done that.

    In the infamous words of Bart Simpson: YOU CAN’T PROVE IT!

    OJ Simpson was ACQUITTED with much more evidence than this.

    If evidence doesn’t come forward, and Hernandez doesn’t get charged, there is no reason on God’s green earth for Roger Gooddell to suspend him.

    I’m not saying I support Hernandez – I don’t, I think he may well have pulled the trigger himself. But you have to have some BASIS for the suspension, and right now, there isn’t any.

  73. yourteamstinks says: Jun 25, 2013 4:12 PM

    “This is becoming a nightmare for the NFL and/or the Patriots. What happens if no charges are ever brought against AH, or charges are brought and a jury finds him not guilty?

    The league will have a hard time justifying a suspension for a player found not guilty or who is never indicted, and will have a harder time letting him play even though he is perceived as guilty in the court of public opinion.”

    This guy clearly didn’t see the NFL hose Big Ben (not even charged) with a suspension.

  74. jrcoop says: Jun 25, 2013 4:46 PM

    @pinion8ted,

    Goodell doesn’t need proof or even a convection.

    If you recall, Big Ben was suspended for 6 games (4 after appeal) based on nothing more than circumstantial evidence for something he was never convicted of. This situation may be considered just a bit more serious as well, since there’s a dead body involved.

    That said, many beleive the Pats get prefered treatment from the league office.

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