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Another high school ditches the Redskins name

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In a courtroom, it’s called “opening the door.”  It happens when an otherwise irrelevant issue is brought up by one lawyer, who then objects when the other lawyer delves in to the same topic.

The Washington Redskins opened the door earlier this year by pointing to the many high schools that still use the same name for their sports teams.  Now, when any high school abandons the name, it’s news.

News arose in Washington state on Monday, when the Port Townsend School Board decided to drop Redskins as the official nickname for Port Townsend High School.  The name had been in place since 1926, seven years before the NFL team assumed it.

“No one believes the Redskins name and symbol are intentionally hurtful or disrespectful toward Native Americans,” School Board member Ann Burkhart said, via the Peninsula Daily News.  “But I fail to see how a symbol, even a revered symbol, that is generally acknowledged to be divisive can be helpful in preparing students for success in the increasingly connected and collaborative 21st Century.”

It was a controversial decision, obviously.  Per the report, 275 people attended the meeting, cheering those who spoke in favor of keeping the name and booing those who argued for change.

The effort began in June 2012, when Port Townsend resident Andrew Sheldon wrote a letter to the School Board explaining that he is “offended, embarrassed and ashamed by our school mascot.”

Opponents of the change included John Stroeder, a graduate who later played for the NBA’s Milwaukee Bucks.

“If you change the name, I’m done here,” Stroeder said.  “I will take my jersey out of the [trophy] cabinet.  I’m very passionate about this, and I’m not passionate about a lot of things.”

Said Sheldon of Stoeder:  “He was a professional athlete and should be setting a better example for the kids.  This is all about the kids and their education, which can’t happen while there is a racist symbol representing the team.”

The news comes at a time when a Washington Post poll indicates that eight of 10 Redskins fans in D.C. believe the name should not be changed.  That’s not a surprise; for fans of the team, the name has only one meaning, and the connotation is only positive.

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  1. pooflingingmonkey says: Jun 25, 2013 11:23 AM

    Full disclosure: I’m one quarter Cherokee, so naturally I have a lot of Native American blood in my family. Most of us are football fans, and NONE of us have (or have ever had) a problem with the name Redskins.

    This is just a money grab on behalf of the supposedly offended. Someone is making money off this campaign against the name.

  2. puntonfirstdown says: Jun 25, 2013 11:25 AM

    Why don’t they take a vote on who is or isn’t “offended”? The majority wins and the issue is prohibited from ever coming up again.

  3. tjacks7 says: Jun 25, 2013 11:28 AM

    People are so sensitive. I would think people would have better/more important things to do than write letters to the local school board about a high schools name.

  4. mediasloppy says: Jun 25, 2013 11:28 AM

    I can see the Redskins being in the NFL as a major name for the last several decades in the public perception, but any high school or lower ranking team should find a better name.

  5. jaxbeachjagfan says: Jun 25, 2013 11:28 AM

    If you happen to be driving through Oklahoma or New Mexico or wherever, and pulled up to a roadside store where several men who are obviously Native Americans were sitting…

    Would you feel comfortable calling them Redskins to their faces?

    You wouldn’t, would you.

  6. halasfan says: Jun 25, 2013 11:29 AM

    any word on the Fighting Irish, Browns, or Blackhawks changing their names?

  7. manilarizzo says: Jun 25, 2013 11:30 AM

    Enough al

  8. rickywatts80 says: Jun 25, 2013 11:31 AM

    There is absolutely no logical reason to continue to use this team name that is so hurtful to so many. It is difficult to fathom how grown people have allowed themselves to grow so attached to an image that they refuse to consider how offensive it is to others.

    Redskin lovers… get over it. It is past time to change this demeaning image. You will go on. I promise.

  9. mz1394 says: Jun 25, 2013 11:31 AM

    Just shows what a garbage low class organization the Washington redskins are. #biggestpileofcrapteaminthenfl # substandard

  10. funkels says: Jun 25, 2013 11:32 AM

    It is so sad what this country is turning in to. This useless waste of time is what makes progressives feel good about themselves.

  11. rickywatts80 says: Jun 25, 2013 11:34 AM

    Why don’t they take a vote on who is or isn’t “offended”? The majority wins and the issue is prohibited from ever coming up again.
    —————————————————

    How about instead, the NFL team in Washington selects a team name that isn’t racist or offensive to anyone?

  12. evilbilly3 says: Jun 25, 2013 11:34 AM

    It’s amazing how people use politics to gain popularity. I can see this 5 years from now……..

    If the Redskins change their name, and every little squirrel that came out to get their nut can’t even remember. They just move on to the next battle that they believe elevates their stature, doing absolutely nothing productive for anyone else. Aren’t there enough problems with our country that they could be solving? I guess there’s no glory in that, so let’s pick on the Redskins (sigh).

  13. ColtsWinColtsWin!! says: Jun 25, 2013 11:35 AM

    The High School should change its name to the COLTS! They are the best team ever. I would not want my mascot to be the Redskins, they are a terrible franchise with horrible fans and a asteroid turf field.

  14. gadzod says: Jun 25, 2013 11:39 AM

    High Schools = Public school funded by the Govt.

    Washington Redskins = Privately funded by a business owner.

    The two cannot be even more different or farther apart. The PC Liberals can get to the High Schools, but its up to Snyder to change the name for his franchise.

  15. taxlaw26 says: Jun 25, 2013 11:40 AM

    So the standard is – if a person or group finds a word or symbol to be offensive, then even if there is no intent to offend, that word or symbol needs to be banned from the public arena?

    Or, as seems to be the case here, if a person of group finds a word or symbol to be offensive toward another person or group, then even if there is no intent to offend and the target group is not on whole offended, then that word or symbol needs to be banned from the public arena?

  16. bradtoughy says: Jun 25, 2013 11:40 AM

    Andrew Sheldon doesn’t seem like the swiftest student.

    “This is all about the kids and their education, which can’t happen while there is a racist symbol representing the team.”

    Pretty sure that’s false, considering the school has produced graduates since 1926.

    I actually really like the school board’s quote on the matter, claiming no one claims that the name is intentionally hurtful or disrespectful.

  17. august589 says: Jun 25, 2013 11:40 AM

    School Board member Ann Burkhart said, “But I fail to see how a symbol, even a revered symbol, that is generally acknowledged to be divisive can be helpful in preparing students for success in the increasingly connected and collaborative 21st Century.”

    Wrong, Ms. Burkhart! The nickname is NOT generally acknowledged to be divisive at all. Remember, all recent surveys indicate that an overwhelming majority of Native Americans ARE NOT offended by the Washington NFL Club calling itself the “Redskins.” It’s a shame that this nation is falling victim and capitulating to political correctness fueled by people who are NOT Native and know nothing about Native culture and tradition.

    In addition, I will always refuse to support a name change for the Washington NFL Club until Red Mesa High School–located deep in the Navajo Reservation in Arizona–changes its mascot name from the Redskins!

    BTW, my Cherokee wife is so looking forward to wearing the Redskins T-Shirt that I got for her birthday. Her birthday is in two weeks….

  18. dontasemebro says: Jun 25, 2013 11:40 AM

    I am amazed everyday that I read about ONE left wing idiot that somehow garners this much attention and ultimately gets his/her way about something so trivial. Can you imagine Mr. Sheldon ever playing the game of football? SMH

  19. reesesteel23 says: Jun 25, 2013 11:42 AM

    What gets me is Even if there IS legitimate reason to change or not, if the ‘man’ doesnt agree with your protest,then its “screw you”. All the boo’ing is evidence of that.

    Most people dont honestly care whether these schools, teams of whoever change the name, but what they dont like is the fact that everything the ‘man’ chooses to do isnt given a pass any longer. Yes they are going to discuss it and yes it will be up for debate and possibly a vote.

  20. outlaw2377788 says: Jun 25, 2013 11:44 AM

    And yes im all for a vote please. Heck do one on PFT. Make a poll and see who is for the name changing and who is against it. Instead of all these reports of vague out of the way highschools in the norteast changing there name. Lets see how many people are trully offended???

    PFT any takers??

  21. b3nz0z says: Jun 25, 2013 11:45 AM

    if it’s stupid to make a big deal out of the name, then John Stroeder is being very stupid at the moment.

  22. harrisonhits2 says: Jun 25, 2013 11:45 AM

    untonfirstdown says:

    Why don’t they take a vote on who is or isn’t “offended”? The majority wins and the issue is prohibited from ever coming up again.
    ______________________________

    How about because a minority such as Native Americans are so small in numbers that they could never win such a vote.

    Imagine if African Americans had been offered the same option for the N-word back in the 60s or 70s. It would still be in common use as it would have been voted down at the time and could not be brought up again after that the way you want to structure things.

  23. Waxxx4321 says: Jun 25, 2013 11:45 AM

    Thats ok because their is Only 1, ONLY 1 real redskin team and thats the Washington Redskins. HTTR!

  24. pflynn20 says: Jun 25, 2013 11:46 AM

    The wussafacation of America continues. You can’t sneeze without someone getting butt hurt.

  25. acinsd says: Jun 25, 2013 11:46 AM

    Or another headline could read: “NFL team keeps the Redskins name”

  26. nesportsfan0428 says: Jun 25, 2013 11:47 AM

    If I said “I hate the Redskins”, would you

    1) Assume I’m racist
    or
    2) Assume I’m a Dallas Cowboys fan. (Or other NFC east team…)

    Saying it is like other racial slurs is an invalid arguement as the Team itself has superceded all other meanings of the word.

  27. micklethepickle says: Jun 25, 2013 11:48 AM

    Yea, let’s just take a vote. I mean, isn’t that how segregation and Jim Crow ended? Can’t wait until the Segregation Generation is rotting in the ground. World will be a much better place.

  28. raiderlyfe510 says: Jun 25, 2013 11:48 AM

    A high school changing its name is not in the same spectrum of a professional organization changing its brand especially when that brand rhymes with excellence and glory.

  29. micknangold says: Jun 25, 2013 11:49 AM

    So these kids can’t get an education because of their mascot? That’s it, we’ve all gone crazy.

  30. therealsmiley says: Jun 25, 2013 11:49 AM

    NEVER. Hail!!

  31. PeterKingLovesCoqAVin says: Jun 25, 2013 11:51 AM

    It’s pretty easy for folks in the majority to misunderstand how the use of the word “redskin” could be offensive after hearing it in relation to football for their entire lives.

    But there are other people out there that don’t look like you, and some of the stuff you think is normal has been making them feel marginalized for their entire lives.

    Just because it’s been going on forever doesn’t make it right, or mean that it’s OK to continue.

    And just because you can’t or won’t look at an issue from a frame of reference other than your own doesn’t mean political correctness has run amok.

    Some of the good old days were pretty bad for other people. It’s a fact, and it will frustrate you until you are open to listening.

    In the meantime, the rest of us are going to try to treat each other with a bit more dignity.

  32. dryzzt23 says: Jun 25, 2013 11:52 AM

    These are government schools so they will follow the liberals politically correct plan and change the name.

    I am OFFENDED by those who are “offended” by the name. Does the name impact their life, liberty, or happiness? No it doesn’t BUT liberals “feel” better when they do this kind of thing and it gives them some sort of moral superiority and they get off on that.
    But dammit if anyone is “offended” by the many state that they’ve created then they try to silence you.

    Long live the Redskins!

  33. getyourownname says: Jun 25, 2013 11:53 AM

    I agree they should change the name because it is demeaning and that the people who profit by using the name don’t get to decide what is demeaning to others.

    But citing an obscure high school is silly. According to Wikipedia, 28 high schools have dropped the name, but there are 62 curent high schools still using it, so a couple chnages on the fringe are hardly some sort of sea change. This is a common lawyer’s tactic of pounding the desk and trying to elevate the most trivial “example” into overwhelming precedent for dramatic effect.

  34. saintjohnwhodat says: Jun 25, 2013 11:53 AM

    What about Norwegian Americans offended by the name Vikings who historically rape and pillaged villagers, or Irish Americans offended by the fighting Irish with the origin of a “Donny brook” a drunkin bar fighting Irishman, political correctness gone wild

  35. damcmp says: Jun 25, 2013 11:53 AM

    High schools are funded thru taxes and can be pressured by the Liberals…..this whole thing is stupid and these PEOPLE just want things THEIR way!!!

  36. outlaw2377788 says: Jun 25, 2013 11:53 AM

    I hardly think taking a vote on changing a football team name is in any way equal to Jim Crow. But thanks for the complete overeaction. You might need a hug sir.

  37. cajunaise says: Jun 25, 2013 11:54 AM

    “The name had been in place since 1926, seven years before the NFL team assumed it.”

    **

    There goes the, “We’ve had the name longer than these institutions who are ditching it” argument.

  38. fwippel says: Jun 25, 2013 11:54 AM

    Why don’t we just blame the city of Boston. Y’all do realize that the Washington Redskins actually began as the Boston Redskins, I hope.

    So if the Redskins are going to be pressured to change their name, I think we should also pressure the city of Boston for a public apology for coming up with this name in the first place.

  39. jayniner says: Jun 25, 2013 11:54 AM

    So, in 1933 George Preston Marshall renamed the team the “Boston Redskins” in honor of their head coach William “Lone Star” Dietz, an American Indian, and later moved to Washington

    Neither of them found this name disparaging…..only those who don’t know football or the history of the team find this name offensive.

    Wouldn’t it be a slap in the face to these guys if the name were changed?

  40. eagles512 says: Jun 25, 2013 11:56 AM

    Stroeder is my new hero.

  41. crush1128 says: Jun 25, 2013 11:56 AM

    why isn’t there any uproar over the blackhawks and their logo. same “red skinned” logo but its hockey and less people watch?

  42. ozymandias121 says: Jun 25, 2013 11:57 AM

    When are the Yankees changing their name and the Metros?

  43. dryzzt23 says: Jun 25, 2013 11:57 AM

    If there are any private schools with the name “Redskins”, I hope they don’t change it. I doubt they would because these kind of schools are not beholden to liberal thought and government mandates.

    It must be noted that the vast majority of liberals have their kids in private schools, but if YOUR kid is in a government school then those same liberals will be all about denigrating your kids school until the name is changed.

  44. camdenyard says: Jun 25, 2013 11:57 AM

    More screws turning on Danny Snyder can’t be a bad thing.

  45. Pimpin' aint easy unless you are Chuck Norris says: Jun 25, 2013 11:58 AM

    puntonfirstdown says:
    Jun 25, 2013 11:25 AM
    Why don’t they take a vote on who is or isn’t “offended”? The majority wins and the issue is prohibited from ever coming up again.

    _________________________

    Here is the problem with your argument, generally speaking, America is no longer ruled by the majority (except for elections).

    -The majority doesnt want Obamacare, but what happened with that?

    -The majority are not offended by the word Christmas, but now “Christmas” plays and music have become holiday plays and holiday music

    There are countless examples, but America bends over backwards to appease the minority at every turn, even it harms the majority (I dont mean that in terms of race, I mean that in terms of the groups for versus the groups against). I am an atheist, I dont believe in magical beings that created the earth etc, but I certainly dont bother those that have different beliefs. I hate all of these clowns that want to get rid of “under god” from everything. The majority believe in god, and if you dont, you dont. Why do you have to ruin it for everyone else who does believe? America frustrates me at times…

  46. bigbenh8tr says: Jun 25, 2013 12:01 PM

    raiderlyfe510 says:
    Jun 25, 2013 11:48 AM
    A high school changing its name is not in the same spectrum of a professional organization changing its brand especially when that brand rhymes with excellence and glory.
    ___________________________________
    It does matter when the Washington Redskins backed themselves into a corner trying to imply because highschools do it, they shouldn’t be criticized for keeping the name. I guess you didn’t read this whole article, they brought it on themselves by citing highschool. Read the whole article and don’t just get on here with an ignorant comment because of your emotions.

  47. ialwayswantedtobeabanker says: Jun 25, 2013 12:01 PM

    I realize that this kind of “development” is technically newsworthy — but can these people just LET IT GO???

    The high-powered racists are all long dead. And those oppressed by the high-powered racists have also long passed.

    No one intends that team name to demean ANYbody in ANY way.

    People lining up signing petitions and screaming Bloody Murder over crap like this — really can devalue issues that import some actual legitimitacy.

  48. bigbenh8tr says: Jun 25, 2013 12:03 PM

    Pimpin’ aint easy unless you are Chuck Norris says:
    Jun 25, 2013 11:58 AM
    puntonfirstdown says:
    Jun 25, 2013 11:25 AM
    Why don’t they take a vote on who is or isn’t “offended”? The majority wins and the issue is prohibited from ever coming up again.

    _________________________

    Here is the problem with your argument, generally speaking, America is no longer ruled by the majority (except for elections).

    -The majority doesnt want Obamacare, but what happened with that?

    -The majority are not offended by the word Christmas, but now “Christmas” plays and music have become holiday plays and holiday music

    There are countless examples, but America bends over backwards to appease the minority at every turn, even it harms the majority (I dont mean that in terms of race, I mean that in terms of the groups for versus the groups against). I am an atheist, I dont believe in magical beings that created the earth etc, but I certainly dont bother those that have different beliefs. I hate all of these clowns that want to get rid of “under god” from everything. The majority believe in god, and if you dont, you dont. Why do you have to ruin it for everyone else who does believe? America frustrates me at times…
    ___________________________________
    Wow, I am stunned by how offensive this comment can be. You are a great example the entitlement so Americans have today, that the rest of the world resents in our country. Read the constitution, declaration of independence and then come back here and comment again.

  49. knautika2004 says: Jun 25, 2013 12:04 PM

    Yet another example of how this country is no longer run by a majority but by the minority. One person complains and the school caves.
    One person thinks Tom Sawyer or Huck Finn is racist, and millions of school kids are not allowed to read the book.
    This is not the beginning of the fall but about a third of the way down in the fall of what was once a great country.
    The Greatest Generation would not recognize this place.
    Very troubling times we live in………….

  50. ColtsWinColtsWin!! says: Jun 25, 2013 12:04 PM

    I think they should rename the team to the fuzzy bunnies. That would be sooooo cool, I wonder if PETA would be offended though? Maybe not since we are calling them fuzzy bunnies instead of yummy wabbits. Anyways, hows that? It solves everyones problems right? The Redskins would finally have a name that is befitting and the oversensitive crowd could start wearing RGKnee fuzzy bunny t-Shirts.
    Hail to the Fuzzy Bunnies!
    Hail Victory!
    Wabbits on the Warpath!
    Fight for old D.C.

  51. btellington says: Jun 25, 2013 12:04 PM

    So when will people decide that the Panthers are racist too?

  52. therealtrenches says: Jun 25, 2013 12:05 PM

    The people claiming to know (or be) native Americans who aren’t offended by the name need to be quiet. They’re polluting the conversation with lies.

    Redskins fans who can’t see past the *game* of football to real cultural issues, however, are even worse, because they’re polluting the conversation with a total lack of perspective.

    Perhaps they’d like feel differently if the team had been named the Washington Honkeys for all these years.

  53. Pimpin' aint easy unless you are Chuck Norris says: Jun 25, 2013 12:14 PM

    Big Ben hater, WTF are you talking about? My point is, why do we bend over back words for the minority at every turn? Should the Redskins change their name? In my opinion they should, but my point is that sooooo many people are just dreaming up things to be offended about. So exactly how is that sentiment soooo offensive to you?

  54. mrbigg59 says: Jun 25, 2013 12:15 PM

    Would anyone ever choose the name “redskins” in this day and age for the name of their team? No they wouldn’t. It is demeaning. A Vote where the majority views on what is respectful and what is not is exactly what Jim Crow was.
    Saying ” I am not a bigot” when I use language that is bigoted doesn’t work people.

  55. eaglesphan79 says: Jun 25, 2013 12:15 PM

    “puntsonfirstdown: Why don’t they take a vote on who is or isn’t “offended”? The majority wins and the issue is prohibited from ever coming up again.”

    Just because the majority thinks something is okay, doesn’t make it any less offensive.

    At one point, the majority of people in this country probably felt like it was okay to use the N-word. Does that mean it was not offensive at that time?

    Is there any other situation where you personally would feel comfortable w/ calling a Native American a “Redskin”???

  56. bigdaddyraven says: Jun 25, 2013 12:16 PM

    Pimpin’ aint easy unless you are Chuck Norris says:
    Jun 25, 2013 11:58 AM
    puntonfirstdown says:
    Jun 25, 2013 11:25 AM
    Why don’t they take a vote on who is or isn’t “offended”? The majority wins and the issue is prohibited from ever coming up again.

    _________________________

    Here is the problem with your argument, generally speaking, America is no longer ruled by the majority (except for elections).

    -The majority doesnt want Obamacare, but what happened with that?

    -The majority are not offended by the word Christmas, but now “Christmas” plays and music have become holiday plays and holiday music

    There are countless examples, but America bends over backwards to appease the minority at every turn, even it harms the majority (I dont mean that in terms of race, I mean that in terms of the groups for versus the groups against). I am an atheist, I dont believe in magical beings that created the earth etc, but I certainly dont bother those that have different beliefs. I hate all of these clowns that want to get rid of “under god” from everything. The majority believe in god, and if you dont, you dont. Why do you have to ruin it for everyone else who does believe? America frustrates me at times…

    ==========================
    Are you serious? Look at the demographics of the House of Representatives, the Senate, the Board of Directors of the Fortune 500, and the CEO’s of those same companies and tell me again how the majority don’t still rule.

  57. boyd54 says: Jun 25, 2013 12:17 PM

    For those of you that aren’t versed in this matter. The Blackhawks, Seminoles, Chippewas, Huron are Names of Tribes. Redskins, Red Raiders, Indians, RedMen are different terms used (by others) to refer to the Native People.

    Talk with the people on the Reservations, not the people who have never stepped foot onto a reservation and claim to be one quarter Native.

    This isn’t about being PC! This is about one race of people who have had to endure a tremedous amount. If we truly want to “Honor” this group of people, being a mascot is NOT the way to do it. Retire those names without being asked, THAT is how you can truly Honor them.

  58. chillyball says: Jun 25, 2013 12:22 PM

    This happened at my high school in 1991. Grand Forks Central Redskins. The city was CRAZY up in arms about changing the name. People made tshirts that said “Redskins Forever”.

    Two years later, no one ever remember the name change or the hubbub it causes.

  59. bmoreravens1012013 says: Jun 25, 2013 12:23 PM

    While their at it, change those hideous colors. Burgundy and gold is so outdated….

  60. blackchief29 says: Jun 25, 2013 12:24 PM

    Go Redskins!!!
    The name is now and has always been aimed at honoring the fighting perserverant spirit of Native Americans as representative of football athletes.
    If someone is offended get over it. I’m really starting to miss my country and the common sense it was built on.

  61. bobleblah says: Jun 25, 2013 12:24 PM

    Change the name to RedNecks and find out how offended a vocal minority can become.

    Racism is wrong, even if you don’t mean to be offensive and don’t know anyone who is.

  62. eaglesphan79 says: Jun 25, 2013 12:25 PM

    “jayniner says: Jun 25, 2013 11:54 AM

    So, in 1933 George Preston Marshall renamed the team the “Boston Redskins” in honor of their head coach William “Lone Star” Dietz, an American Indian, and later moved to Washington

    Neither of them found this name disparaging…..only those who don’t know football or the history of the team find this name offensive.

    Wouldn’t it be a slap in the face to these guys if the name were changed?”

    Wait, so George Marshall, the owner who refused to integrate his team for 16 years after other teams started signing African American players, didn’t find the name disparaging? I’m shocked.

  63. FinFan68 says: Jun 25, 2013 12:26 PM

    “But I fail to see how a symbol, even a revered symbol, that is generally acknowledged to be divisive can be helpful in preparing students for success in the increasingly connected and collaborative 21st Century.”
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    What?! How has any high school nickname or mascot been helpful in preparing students? This is just stupid people caving to the whiners of the PC world. Does this school board actually think that potential colleges or employers will deny these kids anything because their high school nickname is “Redskins”. Stupid people can be convinced that anything is good or bad.

    Ask those offended WHY they are offended. Then, check out their reasoning for accuracy. Most are offended because they believe they “should feel” offended or because someone else is offended. If they try to give you a history lesson on the term as a basis for their being offended, then they are completely wrong and have not researched it themselves.

  64. t8ertot says: Jun 25, 2013 12:32 PM

    Anyone remember the movie, Demolition Man, with Sylvester Stallone and Wesley Snipes?

    Our current society is turning into that setting. In the future it will be illegal to curse. Nation if wimps

  65. briang123 says: Jun 25, 2013 12:36 PM

    Hey, why don’t you start complaining about the Chiefs name as being offensive? How about the Cowboys name as being supportive of white supremacy over the native indigenous peoples? What about the Raiders and Buccaneers, names that glorify criminality? What about the Giants and Titans, names that are offensive to the height-challenged? Or the Patriots, which is offensive to immigrants and makes them feel like they are less welcome in this country? Or what about the Saints, which is offensive to atheists and agnostics? Let’s change them all now!

  66. loubearkane says: Jun 25, 2013 12:46 PM

    puntonfirstdown says: Jun 25, 2013 11:25 AM

    Why don’t they take a vote on who is or isn’t “offended”? The majority wins and the issue is prohibited from ever coming up again./////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

    This is America we don’t accept majority decisions it’s whoever swings the bigger hammer.

  67. btellington says: Jun 25, 2013 12:53 PM

    ——————————————-
    Change the name to RedNecks and find out how offended a vocal minority can become.

    Racism is wrong, even if you don’t mean to be offensive and don’t know anyone who is.
    ——————————————-

    I know a lot of RedNecks, and just about all of them would be all “Hell-YEAH!” about it.

  68. puntonfirstdown says: Jun 25, 2013 12:54 PM

    I’d wager that his whole issue has very little to do with Native Americans.

  69. hedleykow says: Jun 25, 2013 12:54 PM

    It’s probably not the end of the world that a high school changed the name of its sports team. There will be plenty of time after graduating high school for the students to act as the good stewards of racial divisiveness that their uneducated parents raised them to be.

  70. hvoigt21 says: Jun 25, 2013 12:55 PM

    Snyder better not give in to these government a$$ holes who while our country is crumbling to pieces, worry about sh$t like this…

  71. glac1 says: Jun 25, 2013 12:59 PM

    I wish this world would focus on its real problems… Who cares about nick names…

  72. loubearkane says: Jun 25, 2013 1:04 PM

    crush1128 says: Jun 25, 2013 11:56 AM

    why isn’t there any uproar over the blackhawks and their logo. same “red skinned” logo but its hockey and less people watch?////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

    The Blackhawks were named after Chief Blackhawk of the Sauk Indian tribe an individual not named after a term to describe a ethnicity

  73. flannlv says: Jun 25, 2013 1:12 PM

    Paula Deen doesn’t see a problem with the name.

  74. normaneinstein7 says: Jun 25, 2013 1:17 PM

    jaxbeachjagfan says: Jun 25, 2013 11:28 AM

    If you happen to be driving through Oklahoma or New Mexico or wherever, and pulled up to a roadside store where several men who are obviously Native Americans were sitting…

    Would you feel comfortable calling them Redskins to their faces?

    You wouldn’t, would you.

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    Would you feel comfortable going up to the face of a native of New Yorker and call them a Yankee? You’ll probably end up in a confrontation. Would you feel comfortable going to a neighborhood of Irish immigrants, get up in their face and call them the fighting Irish?

    Getting up in anyone’s face you don’t know is going to lead to an uncomfortable situation.

  75. dsoapes says: Jun 25, 2013 1:17 PM

    I’m a graduate of Port Townsend High School. This change was the result of people like Mr. Shelton and the school superintendent who moved to the community and then wanted to force their ethos on the community. I haven’t heard from anyone who attended PTHS (including local Native Americans) who were in favor of the change. Once again the agenda of the “politically correct” supersedes the will of the people. The school board name-change committee was stacked with members who were in favor of the name change. This was fait accompli when the superintendent decided they should “study the matter.”

  76. peytonsneck18 says: Jun 25, 2013 1:19 PM

    Can the NFL just ditch the whole redskins franchise

  77. jimbo75025 says: Jun 25, 2013 1:20 PM

    rickywatts80 says:
    Jun 25, 2013 11:34 AM

    How about instead, the NFL team in Washington selects a team name that isn’t racist or offensive to anyone?
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    Thats the problem. Some will get offended at any name which is used if you realy stop to think about it.

    Giants could be offensive to those vertically challenged.

    Bucaneers? Many maybe had long ago relatives killed by pirates.

    Patriots? Historically a percentage of people during the Revolutionary War were pro Great Britain. Could their relatives not be offended?

    I don’t even know how old I was before I realized that a Redskin was a term for anything other than a player that team in DC I hated.

  78. normaneinstein7 says: Jun 25, 2013 1:20 PM

    t8ertot says: Jun 25, 2013 12:32 PM

    Anyone remember the movie, Demolition Man, with Sylvester Stallone and Wesley Snipes?

    Our current society is turning into that setting. In the future it will be illegal to curse. Nation if wimps

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    You are correct. Will the Redskins name last another 20 years? Heck, we probably won’t have football as we know it in 20 years. In 20 years, the biggest sport will probably be like the movie “The Running Man”.

  79. mblue24 says: Jun 25, 2013 1:22 PM

    Stupid!! People need to get a life and quit complaining about team names. Dm.

  80. normaneinstein7 says: Jun 25, 2013 1:27 PM

    peytonsneck18 says: Jun 25, 2013 1:19 PM

    Can the NFL just ditch the whole redskins franchise
    ________________________________

    Still bitter about using the #1 overall pick on the 3rd best rookie QB I see. The Colts would’ve been better off trading down and taking Kirk Cousins.

  81. cuda1234 says: Jun 25, 2013 1:28 PM

    So to recap, the people are not offended but the elitists in government and the media know better and plan to impose their will on us. Great.

  82. jrmbadger says: Jun 25, 2013 1:50 PM

    Here is the problem with your argument, generally speaking, America is no longer ruled by the majority (except for elections).

    -The majority doesnt want Obamacare, but what happened with that?
    ================

    that might have been a valid argument had the “majority” not re-elected the man who championed it.

  83. humpofdc says: Jun 25, 2013 1:59 PM

    bmoreravens1012013 says:
    Jun 25, 2013 12:23 PM
    While their at it, change those hideous colors. Burgundy and gold is so outdated….

    _____________________

    They BEAT the Crows last Dec. 9th Baltimoron!!!

  84. jgedgar70 says: Jun 25, 2013 1:59 PM

    “Said Sheldon of Stoeder: “He was a professional athlete and should be setting a better example for the kids. ”

    How typical for 21st century debate. Forget about debating the issues. Just declare your opinion, then demonize anyone who dares to disagree with you. This is why nothing ever gets done in this country. Instead of both sides stating their opinions and then trying to work out the differences, we just scream that anyone that disagrees with us is evil. Sad.

  85. godofwine330 says: Jun 25, 2013 2:08 PM

    What made me laugh was Stoeder’s reaction, “If you change the name I’m done here. I will take my jersey out of the [trophy] cabinet. I’m very passionate about this, and I’m not passionate about a lot of things.”

    Then go then, Al Bundy. Take your jersey, the only thing that keeps you relevant to the generations after you. You think it hurts the school? No. You were a scrub that averaged less than 6.5 minutes per game in your short NBA career. Quit trying to push your weight around like you are somebody.

  86. shermaferger says: Jun 25, 2013 2:17 PM

    Looks like it got deleted the first time or something, so here it is again…

    The claims the “redskin” is derived from the bloody scalps from bounties against Native Americans is false and has never been properly cited. Actually the first recorded use was to describe the Delaware (mostly) for their use of red body/face paint. Not their skin color or their bloody scalps. This kind of counters anyone saying “there isn’t a team called the blackskins” as that would mean something entirely different. As Ives Goddard points out, it originally wasn’t used disrespectfully at all. Now, when have you guys ever heard the term “redskin” in an intentionally hurtful way against Native Americans? If it wasn’t used as a slur when the term was first coined, and it’s not used as a slur now, I don’t see what the big deal is.

    Anyway, if Native Americans are really offended by it’s portrayal of their ancestors (it’s referencing the people that fought in battles, not the average joe Native American today [kind of like Vikings, but there isn’t a word to describe Native Americans that way]), then how about keep the name and remove the Native American imagery. Even though Native Americans asked the Redskins to stop using the ‘R’ because they “wanted to see an Indian on the helmets”, how about change the logo to an ‘R’ and change the line “Braves on the warpath” in the song to something else (it doesn’t even rhyme with anything). Both the logo and song have changed before, so it wouldn’t be a big deal to fans, and there wouldn’t be anything tying it to Native Americans. It could be about the potatoes or something unofficially.

  87. ravensbob says: Jun 25, 2013 2:37 PM

    NFL worries about sexual preference diversity but this is ok? Talk about talking out of both sides of your mouth.

  88. istateyourname says: Jun 25, 2013 2:49 PM

    Most people think the name should be abolished. It is a thing of the past and most if not all Native American team names, mascots etc. should be retired at all levels of sport.

  89. kmartin173 says: Jun 25, 2013 3:06 PM

    Political correctness takes another step towards turning this great country into the French.

  90. outlawjerseywhales says: Jun 25, 2013 3:41 PM

    godofwine330 says:
    Jun 25, 2013 2:08 PM

    “…You were a scrub that averaged less than 6.5 minutes per game in your short NBA career.
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    ^Begs the question:
    How many minutes per game did YOU average in your scary NBA career?

  91. thirdistheworrd says: Jun 25, 2013 4:04 PM

    So high schools in Washington State and New York have dropped the name. What should we report on next? When the city councilmen in San Fransisco, Portland , and Ontario criticize the team name?

    The one place they aren’t dropping the name is in high schools on and around reservations. Coincidentally, of the 25, now 23, high schools using the Redskins team name nationwide, 19 are on and around reservations. Of the remaining six, four are located in Ohio: the state with the largest non-reservation Native population east of the Mississippi.

    Additionally, while we’re hearing all about schools that change their name, what we’re not hearing about is Teton high school in Idaho, or Red Mesa high school in Arizona, where pressure by school boards to change the name was met with massive resistance by the local Native population. Especially notable is Red Mesa high school, as the population of Teec Nos Pos, the town it serves, is 97% Native.

  92. theravenlives2 says: Jun 25, 2013 4:18 PM

    Here is the problem with your argument, generally speaking, America is no longer ruled by the majority (except for elections).

    -The majority doesnt want Obamacare, but what happened with that?

    -The majority are not offended by the word Christmas, but now “Christmas” plays and music have become holiday plays and holiday music

    There are countless examples, but America bends over backwards to appease the minority at every turn, even it harms the majority (I dont mean that in terms of race, I mean that in terms of the groups for versus the groups against). I am an atheist, I dont believe in magical beings that created the earth etc, but I certainly dont bother those that have different beliefs. I hate all of these clowns that want to get rid of “under god” from everything. The majority believe in god, and if you dont, you dont. Why do you have to ruin it for everyone else who does believe? America frustrates me at times…
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    Wow, I am stunned by how offensive this comment can be. You are a great example the entitlement so Americans have today, that the rest of the world resents in our country. Read the constitution, declaration of independence and then come back here and comment again.

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    And I am stunned by your level of victimology. Entitlement, huh? Aren’t the people who have supported that team “entitled” to root for it under the same name they have since they moved to Washington in the late 1930’s? You don’t seem to give a damn about their rights. Your “we know what’s best for you” attitude is offensive.

    I hate, and I do mean hate, the Deadskins, but let’s get real here. The dude in the above post is spot-on about how we let the minority rule the sane people. This is a liberal lynch mob again being vocal again. We conservatives are to blame, too, because we had a chance to stand up to this foolishness, but we figured we were “doing ok and it really doesn’t mean that much.” These folks will never stop until we are all praying to Lenin and married to the government.

    As far as the constitution goes, you may wanna check out the Bill of Rights…especially that pesky little part in there about freedom of speech. That always seems to get in the way of folks like you.

  93. theravenlives2 says: Jun 25, 2013 4:23 PM

    While their at it, change those hideous colors. Burgundy and gold is so outdated….

    _____________________

    They BEAT the Crows last Dec. 9th Baltimoron!!!

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    By three points on a lucky kick-off return in overtime. Oh, and the Crows (as you call them) are now the SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS. Glad that “beating” Ravens were the highlite of your season.

  94. kydkrunk says: Jun 25, 2013 4:24 PM

    hey, thirdistheworrd is dropping knowledge here. your comment made me say “nuff said” outloud. classic

    truth is this isnt something we should be concerned about. the worst part of sitting on a pedastal and making judgements is that everyone falls at some point.

  95. roverboy1949 says: Jun 25, 2013 4:25 PM

    I am an “American” and I think any group that uses any hyphenated prefix or suffix is insulting me and the rest of the “Americans”. Maybe if we could all become “one”, we wouldn’t be so sensitive to “words”. They are only freaking words. People put the meaning to them, for good or bad.

  96. peytonsneck18 says: Jun 25, 2013 6:13 PM

    normaneinstein7:

    nice try, but Luck is way better than IRG3, so u can keep trying to fool yourselves, but after a few years when IRG3 is out of the nfl and Luck is collecting records and SB wins, maybe IRG3 can wash his car for him, only way he will be close to greatness, remember, commercials dont make u great

  97. blackstrat says: Jun 25, 2013 7:24 PM

    The name “Redskins” as levied toward Native Americans was made primarily as a compliment to their bareback horse riding skills.
    That, and the war paint they often wore, while on the warpath.
    The name “Redskins” was used out of respect, and if truth be told, a bit of fear.
    Hence the ideal name for a sports mascot.

    Much ado about nothing really but, tell someone that he is being disparaged, even though he is not, and feelings arise.
    A ploy meant to divide and to weaken but not to soothe.
    Look closely and you’ll see.

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