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Ochocinco merits a spot on Bengals’ Mt. Rushmore

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The Bengals, despite plenty of bad years and worse teams, have had plenty of good players.  Four of them earned spots on the team’s Mt. Rushmore.

Unveiled on Tuesday’s Pro Football Talk on NBCSN, the four men on the mountain include Ken Anderson, Anthony Muñoz, Corey Dillon, and (yes) Chad Johnson/Ochocinco.

Though he took the playfulness and frivolity a bit too far later in his career, Johnson had a great career with the Bengals, as explained in the segment from the show posted below.

Shaun King agreed with me.  But PFT Planet didn’t.  Ochocinco and Dillon were replaced by Boomer Esiason and Paul Brown.

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47 Responses to “Ochocinco merits a spot on Bengals’ Mt. Rushmore”
  1. fafaflunky says: Jun 26, 2013 10:34 PM

    more like a stain

  2. socatra says: Jun 26, 2013 10:34 PM

    I guess Boomer will be happy for Chad.

  3. brownsalwaysrebuilding says: Jun 26, 2013 10:37 PM

    You gotta have Esiason.

  4. markcarroll85 says: Jun 26, 2013 10:43 PM

    As a Bengal fan, I completely agree with chad being on our Rushmore. Anyone outside of Cincinnati doesn’t understand what that man single handedly did to cincy football. He made it fun again for our fans and gave us hope. Something we hadn’t had in a long time. It wasn’t always pretty or perfect but we knew it was worth a watch.

  5. Sackville Rc says: Jun 26, 2013 10:44 PM

    I hate to admit it, but you have a valid argument.

  6. whodeyforever1982 says: Jun 26, 2013 10:47 PM

    Chad Johnson was a cancer and Boomer is a Bengals hater. Neither deserve to be on this list. Both talked their way out of town.

  7. wilsonmjii says: Jun 26, 2013 10:49 PM

    Seriously? Chad or no, how can you not have Paul Brown? CD was big for the Bengals, but Brown started the franchise and was responsible in part for their SB appearances.

  8. nflofficeadmin says: Jun 26, 2013 11:01 PM

    Chad is too entertaining not to be on TV. Someone give this man a contract.

  9. stigman2012 says: Jun 26, 2013 11:05 PM

    Like hell he does. He wasn’t even the best Bengal to wear number 85.

  10. quizguy66 says: Jun 26, 2013 11:12 PM

    No Paul Brown. Awful. A travesty.

    Probably should’ve left the 4th spot reserved for A.J. Green

    -QG

  11. thestrategyexpert says: Jun 26, 2013 11:13 PM

    Esiason is still contributing to the game more than the younger Chad.

  12. quizguy66 says: Jun 26, 2013 11:14 PM

    And having the picture with the “Ochocinco” nameplate is the worst argument you could make for his inclusion. Once he did his silly name change his career went straight down the tubes.

    -QG

  13. davemishsr says: Jun 26, 2013 11:14 PM

    Carl Pickens, Chris Collinsworth or Isaac Curtis were all better WR’s than Chad Johnson. People forget that Johnson had a terrible time running precision routes and QB’s simply did not trust him to be where he was supposed to be on timing routes. he also had sporadic issues with the dropsies early in his career. In fact, he was always pretty much a one-trick pony who excelled at go routes and little else. If you consider TE’s than Bob Trumpy or Dan Ross are also better selections than Johnson.

  14. bobzilla1001 says: Jun 26, 2013 11:22 PM

    Chad Johnson should not be rewarded in any way for attempting to market himself via ESPN within a team concept. He was a laughable character who would have been completely irrelevant if not for TJ Whosyourmama, who was far and away the Bengals’ best receiver.

  15. ndnut says: Jun 26, 2013 11:24 PM

    I vote Brown, Dillon and 85.

  16. Canyonero says: Jun 26, 2013 11:28 PM

    You do know the Bengals STADIUM is named after Paul Brown, right?

  17. raysfan1 says: Jun 26, 2013 11:36 PM

    “PFT Planet” got it right. Esiason and Paul Brown are both better choices than #85…and it isn’t close.

  18. forty9asty says: Jun 26, 2013 11:39 PM

    In the few year stretch of outrageous and ridiculous touchdown celebrations, Chad “eight-five” Johnson (I still to this day wonder why he didn’t go by Ochenta Cinco, for “eighty-five”) still has the best of all of them in my view, with his CPR rendition on the ball in the endzone. I even like it better than the celebration which started that craze… T.O. and his Sharpie

  19. jwbelt says: Jun 26, 2013 11:49 PM

    How can you even have a Mt. Rushmore without Paul Freakin’ Brown?! And where’s Ken Riley? There’s no defensive representation at all.

    Dillon and Johnson played fine – they had nice careers, but they were not particularly significant – neither had even the impact of Boomer, and I’d make him a distant 5th choice. These are fanboy picks and don’t measure up even under mild scrutiny.

    Brown and Munoz are HoFers and Kenny Anderson and Ken Riley should be.

    Dillon and Johnson should be out, replaced by Brown and Riley.

  20. mackcarrington says: Jun 26, 2013 11:51 PM

    No Isaac Curtis?

  21. thesteelers says: Jun 26, 2013 11:56 PM

    No.

  22. metalhead65 says: Jun 27, 2013 12:03 AM

    Issac Curtis was better and without the headaches,dillion was good but again a problem child always wanting more money.

  23. jdphx says: Jun 27, 2013 12:03 AM

    And no Reggie Williams?
    For God’s sake look at this man’s knee! (on right)

    He gave it ALL for the Bengals…

  24. matthewcarlson1 says: Jun 27, 2013 12:23 AM

    Sadly that says more about the Bengals than it does about Eight Five.

  25. natelan69 says: Jun 27, 2013 12:28 AM

    I disagreed until the show laid out the stats.

    Don’t understand how Esiason gets left off though.

  26. shotgunchipmunk says: Jun 27, 2013 12:29 AM

    I’m fine with Chad being one of the four. He had a spectacular career with the Bengals and was the face of the franchise’s resurgence.

    I cannot, however, fathom any good reason for not including Paul Brown, the father of modern football coaching.

  27. doe22us says: Jun 27, 2013 12:54 AM

    This guy was a force until his later years, I remember going to Watch two bengals games versus the Browns (different seasons) and all the Browns in stadium announcer literally said all game was pass complete to 85 Johnson, a 15 yrd run by Rudi Johnson over and over again it was a beauty to watch how he strafed that hapless secondary. He was fun to watch that’s for sure.

  28. bunglesandbears says: Jun 27, 2013 12:55 AM

    Gimme AJ every day of the week vs. Ocho

  29. realfootballfan says: Jun 27, 2013 1:08 AM

    Yea, leaving Paul Brown off the Bengals’ Rushmore is akin to leaving Al Davis off the Raiders one. Not to mention the team’s sucked since he died and was a perennial playoff/Super Bowl contender up until then.

    In that same train of thought, don’t know if two players from their worst years merit a spot there. Neither would I put Boomer there since he essentially had 3 or 4 good years much like Carson Palmer before disappointing for years. I think Munoz, Ken Anderson, and Paul Brown could get one more player from their hey day back in the 80’s that would be a better representation of that team’s best players coinciding with greatness in relation to winning.

    If Chad Johnson goes up there, why not Carl Pickens? Corey Dillon probably would make more sense for the Patriots because he actually won there and they weren’t exactly a great franchise previously outside of a handful of years before 1996.

  30. whodey83 says: Jun 27, 2013 1:10 AM

    The River Dance sealed his spot.

  31. nyfcat says: Jun 27, 2013 1:43 AM

    For the Bengals, Chad Johnson stayed out of trouble, had fun, talked trash, and backed it up. Now? He’s 0 for 4 in this area.

  32. jason49er says: Jun 27, 2013 1:47 AM

    I thought Munoz and Paul Brown were givens, and if anyone got knocked off the list for Dillon/85 it would be Ken Anderson.

    Wow, PFT planet sure messed this one up.

  33. pnut87 says: Jun 27, 2013 2:55 AM

    Why not Collinsworth?

  34. joetoronto says: Jun 27, 2013 5:59 AM

    Hang on, where’s Andy Dalton? :)

  35. cinbungler says: Jun 27, 2013 6:11 AM

    Chad Johnson was the Bengals best wide receiver ever (all due respect to Isaac Curtis). And on the subject of receivers, Chris Collinsworth? Pickens was better. Nonetheless, best shouldn’t have been good enough to get on Mt. Rushmore.

    You’ve got to start with the HOFers, which means it’s just a travesty that Paul Brown isn’t up there.

    Finally, this whole Mt. Rushmore thing proves itself to be a joke by virtue of Ken Riley not even being an option. 5th all-time in career interceptions, “the Rattler” probably has the 2nd best snubbed HOF argument after Ken Anderson (again, all due respect to Isaac Curtis).

  36. mackcarrington says: Jun 27, 2013 6:18 AM

    Paul Robinson & Essex Johnson

  37. theroc5156 says: Jun 27, 2013 6:53 AM

    While Paul Brown warrants a place on the Rushmore, let’s not forget he grew jealous of a young Bill Walsh and tried to blackball him. Instead of making Bill Walsh head coach, he chose Bill “Tiger” Johnson to succeed him. Enough said. Terrible decision just because he was jealous of Walsh’s football knowledge. Walsh and the Niners go on to win Super Bowls and the Bengals win nothing.

  38. jpb12 says: Jun 27, 2013 7:03 AM

    When you write crap like this it’s tough to take you seriously.

    Also reminds us all that you’re a lawyer

  39. bloodisred says: Jun 27, 2013 10:40 AM

    10 years in Cincy – 751 receptions for 10783 yds and 66 TDs.

    You may not like him or his antics, and none of us approve of his legal troubles of the past year but no logical person can deny Chad belongs.

  40. cincity7378 says: Jun 27, 2013 11:03 AM

    once again Ken Riley, just like with the hall of fame, has been forgotten. Riley recorded a total of 65 interceptions, 596 return yards, 5 touchdowns, 18 fumble recoveries, 96 fumble return yards, 334 kickoff return yards, and 15 receiving yards. His interceptions, interception return yards, and interceptions returned for touchdowns are all Bengals records.
    corey dillon was a great individual player, not a team player by any stretch of the imagination. i worked security for the team and one memory of CD comes to mind. after breaking the single game rushing record and on his way to the locker room, i said “good game mr. dillon”. his response was “mr. dillon dont need your f ing opinion”. that encounter always sticks out in my mind when it comes to CD.

  41. davemishsr says: Jun 27, 2013 12:51 PM

    The stats are deceiving. If Isaac Curtis had played under the rules Johnson did he would have put up monster numbers, bigger than anyone than perhaps Jerry Rice. But if we do look at his stats in 12 seasons, all with the Bengals, Curtis had 416 catches for 7101 yards, a 17.1 yard per catch average, and 53 touchdowns. Had he played under the rules Johnson did, cornerbacks could mug receivers all over the field for most of Curtis’ career and they did everything to Curtis to throw him off of his routes except shoot him, Curtis would have easily equaled or bested Johnson’s numbers. Collinsworth had 417 catches in eight seasons for 6698 yards, a 16.1 average and 36 touchdowns. Pickens, in eight seasons with the Bengals, had 530 catches for 7129 yards, a 13.2 yard average, and 63 touchdowns. But the real story is that all three of these guys ran better routes than Chad Johnson. Johnson was a fast, post/go route specialist who couldn’t run a timing route to save his life and he had a penchant for dropping the ball early in his career.

  42. 1phillyphan says: Jun 27, 2013 1:38 PM

    Its crazy to see actual Bengal fans ( all 5 of them) write that Chad Johnson wasn’t even the best WR to wear 85..even for those who didn’t approve of his celebrations, talk ect..he was a very good WR..and IMO could still play in the NFL.

  43. shadowrider2005 says: Jun 27, 2013 4:17 PM

    If you think Chad merits a place, then where does that leave the most forgotten man in the NFL, Ken Riley? Fifth in NFL history in interceptions and still not in the HOF. AND he wasn’t even a CB when the Bengals drafted him.

  44. mwindle1973 says: Jun 28, 2013 1:01 AM

    How can you leave Paul Brown off? He’s considered a top 5 coach of all time (top 1 by Bill Walsh & Bill Belichick) in most circles. What about Isaac Curtis? Ken Riley? Don’t get me wrong Ocho is an important figure in Bengal history. And for 4 to 5 years was probably the best WR in the NFL. But putting him as a top 4 figure in Bengal’s history is just wrong.

  45. whodeyforever1982 says: Jun 28, 2013 7:58 PM

    I didn’t realize this was the final list. Dear god- how in the hell do you leave off Paul Brown? Did you forget about January of 2006? Chad freaks out at halftime of a playoff game that we are winning, takes a swing at a coach? The dude never went over the middle, alienated himself amongst teammates, constantly complained about his contract, pouted when he didn’t get the ball, didn’t block. He couldn’t take over a game like Andre Johnson, give me a break. If you’re going to put him on Mt Rushmore, his face should be on all 4 spots to reflect how he acted as a teammate…me,me,me.

  46. mikebrownistheworstownerinprosports says: Jun 29, 2013 1:58 PM

    davemishr’s post is full of ignorance. At some point in Chad’s career, he started getting blamed for the decline of Carson Palmer. All the Palmer apologists started claiming Chad couldn’t run precise routes or that he freelanced etc, which is total BS. You don’t lead the conference in receiving 4 years in a row by being a “one-trick-pony”.

    Chad was an outstanding WR and easily the best in Bengals history. And for those claiming Collinsworth belongs, please research his career. Just because you’ve heard of him (thanks to his broadcasting career) doesn’t mean he had a better career than Chad, or Carl Pickens for that matter.

  47. west458 says: Jul 3, 2013 9:23 PM

    Ken Anderson – No issues with this choice

    Anthony Munoz – Hall of Fame Player so no issue

    Corey Dillon – got his Super Bowl ring with New England but he’s not the best running back in the team’s history that would be James Brooks at least to me

    Chad Johnson – borderline at best to me – Issac Curtis would be my choice over him

    And Paul Brown not on the list?

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