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Patriots decided last week to cut Hernandez if he was arrested

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While the move came as a surprise, the Patriots had a plan.

They remained quiet, as they always do.  But they knew all along what they would do when the time came.

Per a league source, the Patriots decided early in the process that, if Hernandez is arrested for crime allegedly occurring in connection with a murder or an investigation of a murder, he will be released.

While it’s possible the Patriots know more about the facts, circumstances, and allegations than the general public, it doesn’t matter.  If/when Hernandez would be arrested, he would be getting cut.

And what a contrast that creates when compared to the way the Ravens treated linebacker Ray Lewis, who was charged with murder and then pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice 13 years ago.  The Ravens unconditionally supported and defended Lewis, culminating in coach Brian Billick angrily telling reporters in the days preceding Super Bowl XXXV that they’re “not qualified” to even ask questions about the situation.

The Patriots, alternatively, have decided quickly and summarily that Hernandez is not qualified to continue working for them.  It’s a decision that was made, we’re told, at the top of the organization, and it’s a standard that the team would apply to any other player or employee facing similar circumstances.

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  1. fryeways says: Jun 26, 2013 1:09 PM

    I understand arresting him, but did they have to cut off his arms?

  2. patriotsdefense says: Jun 26, 2013 1:10 PM

    Which is why he should have begged them for the Kyle Love deal. Heck, he should have assumed the risk of losing his bonus money and forced it upon the team and announce his retirement.

  3. Nofoolnodrool says: Jun 26, 2013 1:11 PM

    To all Raven fans this is how you handle someone involved with murder. Pats did the right thing to stop the bleeding.

  4. rextraordinaire says: Jun 26, 2013 1:12 PM

    Hernandez still has the opportunity to be a receiving tight end. There a lot of demand for it in prison

  5. remok9 says: Jun 26, 2013 1:12 PM

    As an Eagles fan I HATE the Pat especially since there MAY have been ‘shady bo-bo’ in that SB win. However I commend them on booting this grade a ‘gangester’ turd from their ranks. Good job Kraft.

  6. randolph32 says: Jun 26, 2013 1:12 PM

    Kudos….sometimes the folks in power disregard the bottom line

  7. moagecu says: Jun 26, 2013 1:12 PM

    BS on last statement. they do not cut Brady if he’s in this situation.

  8. vondoom92 says: Jun 26, 2013 1:12 PM

    Say what you will about the Patriots, but I think it was a classy move to distance them self from this. Even with the chance their season could suffer.

  9. kingokra says: Jun 26, 2013 1:12 PM

    Wonder how many draft picks the Pats will lose for this? Oh, wait, it’s not the Saints. Nevermind.

  10. beckzhere says: Jun 26, 2013 1:13 PM

    And that’s the difference between those two organizations. The way the Ray Lewis incident was handled is unacceptable.

  11. YouMadCauseImStylingOnYou says: Jun 26, 2013 1:13 PM

    Patriots absolutely know exactly what’s going to happen, every NFL team has insight with their local law enforcement. No one should be shocked if a murder 2 or accessory charge comes down today in addition to the obstruction.

    Doesn’t hurt that PFF has a negative grade on Hernandez last year, Pats probably want out of that contract ASAP.

  12. bigbrad184 says: Jun 26, 2013 1:14 PM

    I hate the Patriots, but I am impressed with their decision. Good work not putting football first in this situation.

  13. thesteelers says: Jun 26, 2013 1:14 PM

    Most teams in the same position would have done the same thing. I can think of a few exceptions. I’m sure you could too.

  14. jswheeler says: Jun 26, 2013 1:14 PM

    Billick + Ravens= lacking in morals.

  15. gammynomnom says: Jun 26, 2013 1:15 PM

    fryeways says:
    Jun 26, 2013 1:09 PM
    I understand arresting him, but did they have to cut off his arms?
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    The internet. You win it.

  16. steviemo says: Jun 26, 2013 1:15 PM

    He’s going to be charged with murder. I have no doubt.

  17. myspaceyourface says: Jun 26, 2013 1:15 PM

    Welker – GONE
    Lloyd – GONE
    Hern. – GONE
    Gronk – OUT FOR A WHILE

    Pats aren’t looking so hot. Gazelle was just quoted as saying, “do you want my husband catch the ball too”

  18. Stiller43 says: Jun 26, 2013 1:16 PM

    Well, its nice that at least one team has enough class to cut a prominent player who’s charged in connection with a murder.

    Meanwhile, the team from baltimore and their fans continud to celebrate their version even to this day.

  19. touchdownroddywhite says: Jun 26, 2013 1:17 PM

    Good for them. I’m sure they would have cut him sooner if they didn’t need the arrest to solidify the notion of “conduct detrimental”.

  20. faithful209er says: Jun 26, 2013 1:17 PM

    fryeways says: Jun 26, 2013 1:09 PM

    I understand arresting him, but did they have to cut off his arms?

    ————————

    Best. Comment. Ever.
    Thanks for the laugh. We needed that.

    Signed,
    Football Fans

  21. mdagnew1 says: Jun 26, 2013 1:18 PM

    HAHAHA…so funny you continue to bring up Lewis as an example. The Ravens knew from the start that while Lewis was there, he wasn’t involved in the murder. He may have not wanted to rat out his “friends”, but that doesn’t make you a killer… Atlanta PD botched that case from day one and now no one is paying the price for killing those two kids.

    Patriots know more than we do and i can assure you Hernandez was involved. His history shows he carries guns and he just shot someone two weeks prior in Palm Beach County and is being sued in civil court over it…

    Lewis was never in trouble before his situation and never in trouble again..

  22. ravensterpsarmystrong says: Jun 26, 2013 1:18 PM

    I applaud the Patriots!

  23. crunchyclam says: Jun 26, 2013 1:18 PM

    Kudos to the Patriots’ organization. It takes a lot of guts to release a player involved in a murder. The Patriots have been the classiest organization in the NFL ever since they paid their Spygate fine on time and in full.

  24. Stiller43 says: Jun 26, 2013 1:18 PM

    Moagecu,

    Actually, i think they would. Its pretty clear at this point that hernandez wont play for probably a couple years at least (if he comes back at all). At bradys age, that would take him to retirement.

  25. seanb20124 says: Jun 26, 2013 1:18 PM

    I thought the CBA prevented teams from cutting players based on an arrest

  26. rayvens says: Jun 26, 2013 1:19 PM

    To all Raven fans this is how you handle someone involved with murder. Pats did the right thing to stop the bleeding.
    ——————–
    as a Ravens fan i agree 100%

  27. jimbo75025 says: Jun 26, 2013 1:19 PM

    I do wonder if this was passed on to Hernandez. Seems if he knew this and knew some info, it would have been a good push to get him to tell what he knew unless he was directly involved. All of this just makes me think there is deeper involvement here than just obstruction.

  28. whoisferg says: Jun 26, 2013 1:20 PM

    Didn’t Tom Brady’s security people shoot some paparazzi when he got married? I don’t think they died, otherwise the Pats would’ve had to cut Brady too…right?

  29. nyangl23 says: Jun 26, 2013 1:20 PM

    Respect to the pats. Sending a message that being an NFL player does not mean you are invincible. Maybe some other players will get the memo

  30. ridingwithnohandlebars says: Jun 26, 2013 1:21 PM

    In both cases the teams probably do know more than the fans and the reporters.

    The Ravens felt that they knew enough facts where they would be willing to stick by Lewis, with Modell being a character witness for him. The Patriots feel that they know enough to make the decision to release Hernandez and not stand with him.

  31. daubs17 says: Jun 26, 2013 1:21 PM

    we should do the same thing to hernandez that he either did or participated in. drop him on his knees and blast him execution style since its no big deal aaron

  32. raidadon says: Jun 26, 2013 1:22 PM

    Got the feelin he isn’t gonna retire as a tight end.

  33. harrisonhits2 says: Jun 26, 2013 1:22 PM

    kingokra says:

    Wonder how many draft picks the Pats will lose for this? Oh, wait, it’s not the Saints. Nevermind.
    _________________

    What an asinine comment.

    The Saints orchestrated a defense wide illegal scheme to injure other players.

    That Pats as a team have nothing to do with this murder and released the player without prejudice to cap hits, roster effect, not going to even bother trying to recover any money from him etc.

  34. dg0122 says: Jun 26, 2013 1:22 PM

    what does this have to do with Desmond Bishop???

  35. jnbnet says: Jun 26, 2013 1:22 PM

    fryeways says:
    Jun 26, 2013 1:09 PM
    I understand arresting him, but did they have to cut off his arms?

    = – = – = – = – = – = – = – = – = – = – = – = – = -
    I think he is hiding something under his shirt

  36. nickster31 says: Jun 26, 2013 1:22 PM

    patriotsdefense says:
    Jun 26, 2013 1:10 PM
    Which is why he should have begged them for the Kyle Love deal. Heck, he should have assumed the risk of losing his bonus money and forced it upon the team and announce his retirement.

    NO, it doesn’t work that way. By the rules of the CBA, if Hernandez would have retired, the Pats would have been able to go after all of his prorated signing bonus. If he would not have reported (since being in jail would keep him from reporting) they could have gone after his bonus money.

    I believe now, the Pats are on the hook for the remaining money of the signing bonus, spread over this year and next (June 1st rule).

  37. crunchyclam says: Jun 26, 2013 1:22 PM

    Hernandez’s release had nothing to do with the arrest. He was released because of a type 2 diabetes diagnosis.

  38. turdfurgerson68 says: Jun 26, 2013 1:23 PM

    Typical classy act by the Patriots…

    …as opposed to the typical classless Raven organization by keeping the murderous Ray Lewis (where’s the white suit Ray?)

  39. scott28078 says: Jun 26, 2013 1:23 PM

    You can’t equate these two situations until you know the charge and evidence against him.. There was never any credible evidence against Ray Lewis for the murder. Come on….

  40. cryceratops says: Jun 26, 2013 1:23 PM

    No one cut his arms off. He did it to himself. I hear it was because he wanted to destroy more evidence.

  41. lowerprovidencewarriors says: Jun 26, 2013 1:23 PM

    Too bad the Eagles do not apply the same standard of decency in relation to convicted felonious dog-killers.

  42. AngryHumanoid says: Jun 26, 2013 1:23 PM

    Let’s hear someone else talk about the Patriots being a classless organization. They did the right thing and dropped a KEY player, because he was arrested for, at minimum, obstruction. He is obviously guilty of at least that. Good for the Patriots for setting an example, that no one on their team is above the rules.

  43. bat42boy says: Jun 26, 2013 1:23 PM

    I support the Patriots organization for this outstanding decision. Other major league teams should do the same. Maybe it will get the message to these idiot ball players they better straighten up and live their lives the right way.

  44. sschmiggles says: Jun 26, 2013 1:23 PM

    Pats aren’t looking so hot. Gazelle was just quoted as saying, “do you want my husband catch the ball too”
    ________________________

    Pats barely lost the AFC championship to Peyton Manning with Reche Caldwell and Jabar Gaffney as their #1 and #2.

    We don’t have Mark Sanchez out there, this is Tom Brady we’re talking about, and the Pats still have one of the best O-lines in the league.

  45. raji1824 says: Jun 26, 2013 1:24 PM

    Lets stick with innocent till proven guilty.
    Since the consequences are horrendous.
    Hopefully the right judgement will be made.
    God bless America.

  46. justintuckrule says: Jun 26, 2013 1:25 PM

    It’s a decision that was made, we’re told, at the top of the organization, and it’s a standard that the team would apply to any other player or employee facing similar circumstances.
    ————
    I’m calling B to the S on this one. Basketball players turned tight ends are becoming a dime a dozen. If this were Tom Brady, you bet your rear end that the team would be giving him the “Ray Lewis treatment”.

  47. mattwalshvideo says: Jun 26, 2013 1:26 PM

    And yet they’ve kept their cheating lying scumbag coach for how long?

    Stay Classy NE.

  48. davikes says: Jun 26, 2013 1:27 PM

    They knew what they were going to do last week because they already knew Hernandez.

  49. bchapman2011 says: Jun 26, 2013 1:27 PM

    bigbrad184 says:
    Jun 26, 2013 1:14 PM
    I hate the Patriots, but I am impressed with their decision. Good work not putting football first in this situation
    —————————————————————
    The Pats had no choice. This guy is going to be charged with murder within the hour and his life is over. The Patriots probably already received this info because of their ties to the community. If this was a lesser charge and they thought he could still help the team then they would have 100 percent kept him.

  50. fdugrad says: Jun 26, 2013 1:28 PM

    The salient difference in the Ray-Ray “hands off” treatment by the Ravens vs the Pat’s thumping of AH is the man who sits in the Comish”s chair at this time, is NOT Mr. T.

  51. mikeythelectrician says: Jun 26, 2013 1:28 PM

    as a giants fan I don’t care what the pats do but this just makes the ravens and ray lewis look terrible how did they support a man like that?! good job of the pats to cut this low class guy, I wouldn’t even want to share a locker room with either one

  52. timmons94 says: Jun 26, 2013 1:28 PM

    And the one team is building a statue of the criminal. Only in Baltimore

  53. daaabears says: Jun 26, 2013 1:29 PM

    He was dressed for the occasion, orange pants and t-shirt. Always act like you’ve been there before!

  54. h0c2000 says: Jun 26, 2013 1:29 PM

    Next stop cincinnati bengals

  55. clavette says: Jun 26, 2013 1:31 PM

    the thing is why didn’t they cut him last week before he got arrested? They could have taken a chance with another team picking him up and being on the hook for his money

    I think kraft found something out last night or today more about this whole thing that led them to cut him today

  56. mungman69 says: Jun 26, 2013 1:33 PM

    Some NFL players are so stupid that the Hernandez arrest will have no effect on them at all. Who’s next?

  57. skimeister1967 says: Jun 26, 2013 1:33 PM

    I hear the Ravens and Raiders have already expressed interest in Hernandez now that he’s been released by the Patriots. :-)

  58. harrycanyon says: Jun 26, 2013 1:33 PM

    I’m not a Pats homer by any means, but they will be just fine. They won championships before Hernandez, Gronkowski, or Welker were even around. They will win with that they have, like they always have. Brady makes recievers better than they are.

  59. CKL says: Jun 26, 2013 1:33 PM

    moagecu says:
    Jun 26, 2013 1:12 PM
    BS on last statement. they do not cut Brady if he’s in this situation.
    ____________________________
    I love TB and he’s one of the best ever, but if he did this I’d want him cut too.
    I root for laundry, and I’d prefer if it were clean laundry, even if it was once a favorite outfit.

    No bail, no allowance to skip the perp walk, yeah AH is going down for murder.

  60. zeebounds says: Jun 26, 2013 1:33 PM

    I like to think that bellichek actually instructed Hernandez to take the measures he did to clean up after this murder (i.e. break the phone, scrub the house, destroy the security cameras, wipe the hardrives).

  61. bigdaddy44 says: Jun 26, 2013 1:35 PM

    The rich just get richer. All Ozzie has to do is wait it out for a few months. He will then have a new Pro bowl TE, and a new face of the franchise to replace Ray Lewis.

  62. crunchyclam says: Jun 26, 2013 1:36 PM

    Kudos to the Patriots’ organization. It takes a lot of guts to release a player involved in a murder. That’s why they’ve been the classiest organization in the NFL ever since they paid their Spygate fine on time and in full.

  63. tsuscrumhalf says: Jun 26, 2013 1:37 PM

    And, kudos Patriots!

    They know more than we do & it’s good to see them do what they think the right thing is here.

  64. PriorKnowledge says: Jun 26, 2013 1:38 PM

    The difference between Brent and Lewis and the Hernandez case, is that Lewis and Brent cooperated with the authorities (Lewis initially did not, but relented and testified against his friends). From what we’ve seen so far, Hernandez is actively obstructing justice and is not cooperating at all.

  65. patriots123456 says: Jun 26, 2013 1:38 PM

    Boston Sport’s Radio just announced that he is going to Bristol County Jail after arraignment. Because the charges do not allow bail.

    So IMO if there is NO BAIL he must be going to be charged with MURDER.

  66. golonger says: Jun 26, 2013 1:39 PM

    LOL,all Patriots fans comparing this to the Ray Lewis issue are idiots. 1) Nobody knows the evidence backing up each case and how they compare and might differ and 2) If this was Tom Brady being arrested, do you really think they would be cutting ties this quickly???NOT

  67. u4iadman says: Jun 26, 2013 1:43 PM

    But covering up and supporting the cheating scandal is ok for “top management” to do?

  68. rhett16 says: Jun 26, 2013 1:45 PM

    I am shocked there has been no “Pats Moving Tebow to Tight End” story posted yet. :(

  69. scott28078 says: Jun 26, 2013 1:45 PM

    It’s not the Patriots that are classless – it’s many of their fans, who feel they are just entitled to move to the Super Bowl every year..

  70. antalicus says: Jun 26, 2013 1:45 PM

    I bet you he never said a word to the team about him being innocent. He probably assumed if he shut his mouth and destroyed all the evidence it would be all good.

  71. coachcj01 says: Jun 26, 2013 1:46 PM

    I am not a fan of the Pat’s. Not even close. What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty. While his actions seem to point to the actions of a guilty man, he has been proven guilty of nothing. Looks like the fans have already convicted him. You only know what the media wants you to know. The media wanted everyone to think that Ray Lewis was guilty of murder so that’s the way they presented the case to the public. The prosecutor in Atlanta dropped the murder charges saying that they had no evidence that he committed that terrible crime. The media did not report that however. They only reported that Ray pled guilty to obstruction. Hernandez may be guilty of many things and in the end, murder may be one of them. Just remember that being charged and convicted are two very different things.

  72. bdickey33 says: Jun 26, 2013 1:46 PM

    justintuckrule says: Jun 26, 2013 1:25 PM

    ————
    I’m calling B to the S on this one. Basketball players turned tight ends are becoming a dime a dozen. If this were Tom Brady, you bet your rear end that the team would be giving him the “Ray Lewis treatment”.
    ———-

    I think you’re right, but I think there is some common sense and past history that needs to be involved in the decision too. Minus this incident if you were going to pick one of the 2 to cover up a murder I’m thinking you wouldn’t pick Brady. Whether that is politically correct or not, I don’t really care. Political correctness has gotten out of hand. Call it like you see it! The Pats obviously believe he had quite a bit to do with it. They aren’t the judge or jury, but common sense says he knows what happened. Tip of the hat to the Pats!

  73. thestrategyexpert says: Jun 26, 2013 1:47 PM

    Can you imagine if the police announced that Hernandez was totally clean and only arrested based upon their own mistakes? I can just see AH wanting to get revenge on the Pats and thus ratting out his buddies now that he has to in exchange for some kind of police-endorsed apology.

    It may be a win-win for the police to give up that face to get full closure on the case they really care about. PR for AH and justice for the people and we’ll just leave the Pats in the dust to settle questions about the lost value by being quick to jump the gun. Now that would be a whirlwind of weeks and months worth of intriguing PFT reports.

  74. azarkhan says: Jun 26, 2013 1:50 PM

    mdagnew1 says: HAHAHA…so funny you continue to bring up Lewis as an example. The Ravens knew from the start that while Lewis was there, he wasn’t involved in the murder. He may have not wanted to rat out his “friends”, but that doesn’t make you a killer…

    Wow, you so smart! Now tell that garbage to the families of the two victims.

  75. packhawk04 says: Jun 26, 2013 1:55 PM

    Kudos to patriot fans in all of these comments, and i sincerely mean that. Some are happy he was arressted, while others want hernandez to have his day in court before they make an opinion, both very fair stances.

    What they havent done, that ive seen anyway, is act like the moronic falcon fans did after vick was arrested for dogfighting, wearing free mike vick t-shirts even AFTER he plead GUILTY and proclaiming his innocence, again, AFTER he plead guilty.

    It appears from everything weve seen that its fairly obvious hernandez was involved with this murder to some extent. But, he’ll have his day in court if he pleads innocent to whatever charges are applied to him.

  76. hamiltos777 says: Jun 26, 2013 2:01 PM

    coachcj01 says:
    Jun 26, 2013 1:46 PM
    I am not a fan of the Pat’s. Not even close. What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty. While his actions seem to point to the actions of a guilty man, he has been proven guilty of nothing. Looks like the fans have already convicted him. You only know what the media wants you to know. The media wanted everyone to think that Ray Lewis was guilty of murder so that’s the way they presented the case to the public. The prosecutor in Atlanta dropped the murder charges saying that they had no evidence that he committed that terrible crime. The media did not report that however. They only reported that Ray pled guilty to obstruction. Hernandez may be guilty of many things and in the end, murder may be one of them. Just remember that being charged and convicted are two very different things.
    ———————–

    Great – so then I presume you have no problem with your team picking him up on waivers.

    I’m a Pats fan and agree with the team’s decision. Murder, accomplice to murder, obstruction in a murder case…same difference to me.

  77. trublazer says: Jun 26, 2013 2:06 PM

    I just want to give the Pats props! not saying a word and not long, cutting him! I’m a dolphins fan and it has nothing to do with football. If not for the thought that “hey they took the risk” I feel they SHOULD get their money back!!!

  78. mlbbal52 says: Jun 26, 2013 2:07 PM

    Steeler fans saying this is how the Ravens should have handled Lewis. Interesting considering you QB is a sex offender, one of your receivers did time for weapon possession and shot himself in the leg and your ex outside linebacker Harrison was in trouble countless times during his span there for assault and letting his dogs attack children…pot say hello to the kettle.

  79. sinestrojoe says: Jun 26, 2013 2:12 PM

    And that’s the difference between the Patriots organization and the Ravens.

  80. larryfinfan says: Jun 26, 2013 2:14 PM

    “It’s a decision that was made, we’re told, at the top of the organization, and it’s a standard that the team would apply to any other player or employee facing similar circumstances.”

    Too bad they didn’t think the same thing when they were caught cheating ??

  81. mugsymagpie says: Jun 26, 2013 2:18 PM

    Why do we never see this in hockey and baseball? A little in basketball but not much.

  82. scoobies05 says: Jun 26, 2013 2:22 PM

    as always nofool you are clueless. hernandez has nothing to do with lewis. anxd hernandez hasnt even had his day in court yet. plus the state had so much on lewis he plead down to a misdemeanor. so learn before you speak and tell us how the mighty steelers deal with players accused of rape

  83. realfootballfan says: Jun 26, 2013 2:23 PM

    One guy with his friends having a run in with career criminals that ended up dead on one hand, the other guy going out to drink with his friends and the guy who ended up dead in the course of the night. Hmmmm, these are obviously similar circumstances in a dumb person’s world.

  84. edisbetterthantroy says: Jun 26, 2013 2:24 PM

    Art Modell and Ray Lewis had a very close relationship. There were no prior red flags in Ray’s character nor criminal background. The situation which Ray was involved happened after the Super Bowl (Jan/Feb). Meaning, there was a lot more time to let the chips fall before the season began and not a month before training camp. I’m under 30 and can’t speak for the entire league history, but I doubt there was a precedent to base these decisions either. But if you think both organizations (Ravens and Pats) didn’t do their homework before making a decision, you’re very naïve, ignorant, bitter, or all of the above.

    In the case of Hernandez, it seems like there is a lot more evidence linking Hernandez to the crime. Ray was present during a brawl. He and his entourage were the ones to escape with their lives. I’m not defending Ray in a sense that he ran with the wrong crowd and still lives with that every day of his life. But he’s done everything possible to do the right thing on and off the field since the Atlanta incident. Even after his settlement with the victim’s families and to this day, close and distant relatives continue to approach Ray with their hands out.

    My point is that each crime, much like each business transaction, relationship, etc is different. Each have a myriad of variables that make up the back story. This murder appears to be premeditated and Lewis was with the wrong people, wrong place, at the wrong time. What if Ray was of the two who lost their lives that night? What is his legacy? Murderer or Martyr?

    Go ahead and call me a homer, but for those who use the term “classless organization” are probably the type to make excuses if someone else gets the promotion over them. Face it: THEY ARE BETTER YOU! This is the same classless organization that continues to employ OJ Brigance with his illness. What a bunch of turds…

  85. Nofoolnodrool says: Jun 26, 2013 2:37 PM

    When the truth is out the ravens get mighty sensitive. Nobody died in any steelers troubles but you can’t say that with Rays. It’s ok for you to feel the way you do, but keep in mind outside of Baltimore there are a lot of people that disagree with you. For a Raven fan to call AH a criminal is comical.but hey ravens rules .

  86. scoobies05 says: Jun 26, 2013 2:39 PM

    yes…the ravens investigated the situation and realized ray wasnt guilty and stood by him and were right. the pats did what they thought was right and thats fine too. the steelers employ an accused rapist and a convicted felon.

  87. mswravens says: Jun 26, 2013 2:45 PM

    To all of you taking shots at the Ravens & Lewis, let me try to educate you real quickly about a key difference between the two cases:

    Hernandez has been implicated in an alleged murder, in which a 27 year old was shot multiple times. That’s all we know. The rest is speculation & conjecture based on 3rd hand accounts…and we don’t know what more, if anything, the Patriots know.

    On the other hand, Please tell me who was “murdered” in Atlanta in the Ray Lewis related case? Because as far as I can tell, no one was “murdered.” That’s right…”murder” is the intentional killing of another human being without justification or excuse. The authorities in Georgia have charged 3 people with murder in connection with the case, and NONE was convicted. The two dead people (I don’t recall their names), with their criminal records, ended up that way after they started a fight by smashing a champagne bottle over someone’s head. There were also gunshots fired at Lewis’ group. Has anyone established that these two miscreants ended up dead because someone killed them without justification or excuse? Fact is, no one has, and as far as the law is concerned, no one was “murdered.” So all of you who say Ray is a murdered or is connected to a murder…you simply don’t know of what you speak.

    …and FACT #2 is that no one EVER alleged that Ray Lewis killed anybody. He was never alleged to have even possessed the knife that was used to kill the two dead guys. The Ravens knew that early on & so stood by Ray. He was charged under a Georgia statute that allows one to be charged for being part of the events that led to an alleged murder. For all the statements about celebrities getting favorable treatment, Ray Lewis would never have been charged in the case if he wasn’t Ray Lewis! Truth! …and if I’m wrong, please tell me about the others in his group who did not kill the two dead guys, but was charged with murder!

    Hate on haters, because that’s what you do…and you just can’t control your jealousy of the greatest MLB to ever play the game…but these are the FACTS! …and ain’t it funny that the Pats can’t beat us on the field, so they try to beat us at the PR game, hahhahahahahhzhahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

  88. clashpoint says: Jun 26, 2013 2:56 PM

    mlbbal52 says:
    Jun 26, 2013 2:07 PM
    Steeler fans saying this is how the Ravens should have handled Lewis.
    1. Interesting considering you QB is a sex offender,
    2. one of your receivers did time for weapon possession and shot himself in the leg and
    3. your ex outside linebacker Harrison was in trouble countless times during his span there for assault and letting his dogs attack children…pot say hello to the kettle.
    —–
    1. No, he isn’t. Never even charged, because it never happened. Seriously people, quit sticking up for gold digging women.
    2. That was with the Giants, they often go downhill after leaving Pittsburgh.
    3. …yeah, that one sticks.

  89. clashpoint says: Jun 26, 2013 3:06 PM

    It is hilarious reading the ravens fans desperately try to rationalize ray ray though. Come on people, be serious. Y’all demonize big ben for some gold digging wench’s bs. And y’all lionize ray for obstruction of a murder investigation? Did you even read anything about it? The biggest difference between ray and aaron is ray was better at getting rid of evidence.

  90. scoobies05 says: Jun 26, 2013 3:10 PM

    amazing post edisbetter. try reading it nofool. you may actually learn something

  91. vaphinfan says: Jun 26, 2013 3:10 PM

    Bellicheck may ride on coattails of parcells and cheat but i like the way he handles his team.

  92. yaod says: Jun 26, 2013 3:14 PM

    The curse…of Wes Welker!!

  93. 1rockyracoon says: Jun 26, 2013 3:14 PM

    The patriots quickly erased a potentially huge distraction. Now when they are asked about Hernandez they can just say he isn’t a member of their team and move on to the next question.

    To all the pathetic Ray-Ray defenders–He could have brought closure to the families of the two men who were murdered, but he decided to protect his buddies. maybe he learned that at his church. What he did was awful. Also, some like to say that he made one mistake and has been an upstanding citizen since his conviction. They seem to forget the most important stat about Saint Ray—6 CHILDREN by 4 WOMEN. He is such a great man!

  94. Nofoolnodrool says: Jun 26, 2013 3:19 PM

    scoobies05 | Jun 26, 2013, 3:10 PM EDT
    amazing post edisbetter. try reading it nofool. you may actually learn something

    One homer patting the other on the back how sweet and objective. I have read researched the Lewis case and can’t learn anything from someone so biased as a raven fan. I believe in miracles but not Santa and Ray Lewis . You still believe in both. In some matters I could learn something from you but not this one..

  95. Mr. Wright 212 says: Jun 26, 2013 3:29 PM

    Except you didn’t win anything with Burress. He won with US.

  96. scoobies05 says: Jun 26, 2013 3:57 PM

    ok nofool….if the pats did the right thing and the ravens did the wrong thing then please explain the steelers actions in not cutting ben when he was accused of rape…twice. and please oh please tell me that rape is not on par with murder

  97. bamboozle99 says: Jun 26, 2013 4:02 PM

    It’s not like the Pats are acting on moral grounds. They just want their money back.

  98. beholdenredngolden says: Jun 26, 2013 4:22 PM

    Nofoolnodrool says:
    Jun 26, 2013 1:11 PM
    To all Raven fans this is how you handle someone involved with murder. Pats did the right thing to stop the bleeding.

    __________

    Lewis > Hernandez

    While I agree w ur sentiment, makes decision a tad easier…

  99. Nofoolnodrool says: Jun 26, 2013 4:31 PM

    scoobies05 | Jun 26, 2013, 3:57 PM EDT
    ok nofool….if the pats did the right thing and the ravens did the wrong thing then please explain the steelers actions in not cutting ben when he was accused of rape…twice. and please oh please tell me that rape is not on par with murder

    A fair question lets go ask the two men killed that night and see if they wished they were raped and not murdered.
    And smart guy Ben was never convicted of anything which you seem to omit….selective cherry picking is the raven way which you do so very well.

  100. scoobies05 says: Jun 26, 2013 4:34 PM

    by the way folks. while the evidence against hernandez is pretty damning, he is still entitled to his day in court.

  101. upperdecker19 says: Jun 26, 2013 4:49 PM

    The Cowboys would have given him a pay raise and have him on the sidelines for this week’s game (if there was one).

    Regards,
    Josh Brent

  102. lanman11 says: Jun 26, 2013 5:07 PM

    It will be interesting to know for sure if the Patriots could have WAITED for him to not show up for training camp due to being in jail, and then been able to avoid the cap hits and reclaim the bonus money, rather than have eaten it all by cutting him TODAY. I’d think they must have known this was a no bail situation. If not, had they waited just a few more hours they would have known. I’d say they had to know that by waiting they would be able to make a better financial decision, unless they saw no way to avoid the cap hits and losing the bonus money. Still they cut him immediately. It’s gonna take a while to wash this stink out of the system but they just doused it with bleach.

  103. democratsarestupid says: Jun 26, 2013 5:09 PM

    I’m so tired of this Patriots are holier than thou garbage. If this was Brady, he’s still on the team until he’s in jail. They cut an under performing tight end. This is a horrible situation but if it’s Brady, he’s still on the team and Bob Kraft is testifying on his behalf.

  104. scoobies05 says: Jun 26, 2013 5:32 PM

    and at this point, smart guy, neither has hernandez. yet the pats were right to cut him. and please quit while you are behind. you are asking if they would rather have been raped or murdered. very tasteless, especially since in the ray case NONE of this would have happened if the dead men hadnt instigated the whole issue. not saying they deserved to die, but they put themselves in that position by their actions. but why am i telling you this. you said you read up on it, didnt you? so to sum you up….hernandez and lewis(not steelers and not convicted as of yet) should immediately be cut. big ben(also not convicted) should have the chance to clear his name before any action is taken. talk about cherry picking

  105. denverdude7 says: Jun 26, 2013 6:01 PM

    The Patriots did do the right thing in cutting ties with Aaron Hernandez.

    That being said, am I alone in thinking someone in the police department tipped off the Patriots as to what the charges would be? The timing of the announcement by the Patriots coming BEFORE the charges were announced is just a little bit too curious.

    Common sense would seem to dictate that Hernandez would still be on the team if facing only obstruction of justice charges. Unproven charges at that.

    In other words, I get the feeling the Patriots are still operating like the KGB.

  106. Nofoolnodrool says: Jun 26, 2013 6:24 PM

    and at this point, smart guy, neither has hernandez. yet the pats were right to cut him. and please quit while you are behind. you are asking if they would rather have been raped or murdered. very tasteless, especially since in the ray case NONE of this would have happened if the dead men hadnt instigated the whole issue. not saying they deserved to die, but they put themselves in that position by their actions. but why am i telling you this. you said you read up on it, didnt you? so to sum you up….hernandez and lewis(not steelers and not convicted as of yet) should immediately be cut. big ben(also not convicted) should have the chance to clear his name before any action is taken. talk about cherry picking
    You are missing the point and avoiding the issue . You want to compare rape to murder….no comparison. You know it and I know it. Who brought a case to trial against Ben not so with Mr Lewis. Tasteless is your total disregard for the two dead men. The only thing you have going for you is your belief in Santa and Ray…have a nice day.

  107. scoobies05 says: Jun 26, 2013 7:17 PM

    you have a good day too. go worship your felonious wr. im done with you and your holier than thou attitude. you are a joke

  108. billsfan1 says: Jun 26, 2013 7:27 PM

    As much as I despise NE, (mostly because they are good, we are not), I give them props for this. Not so much for the cutting as I assumed they eventually would, but rather for the quick action. No place for this azztard in the league and I feel bad for any Pats fan that bought their son his jersey…. these are the times you realize that it is just a game…

  109. reed20fence says: Jun 26, 2013 8:11 PM

    You’re wasting your time scoobie. I’ll solve the nofool equation for you right here:

    Rape would be much worse than Obstruction of Justice had a certain HOF MLB been a Steeler, and that QB donned the purple and black.

    The color of the uniform is all that matters to the fool. All other words are just garbage, like his character.

  110. cmdrsmooth says: Jun 26, 2013 11:31 PM

    Please, stop the pats have standards nonsense, if they knew, they shouldn’t have waited.

    ” they had a good brand that was worth protecting then they would have come clean on Spygate and suspended or fired Billacheat; or not drafted Hernandez; or not signed Hernandez to a hug extension; or not signed Corey Dillon years ago, or not traded for Albert Haynesworth or Randy Moss, and so on and so on. The Pats “Brand” is a garbage/violate rules/take in players who have had numerous off field issues/win at all costs brand as it is. The Hernandez release doesn’t help, it just shows what bad guys they are willing to draft in order to try to win games. The Pats have been a shameful organization for the past 10-12 years.”

  111. mlbbal52 says: Jun 27, 2013 1:53 AM

    Reed20fence well said sir…also gotta agree with Scoobies Hernandez should have his day and will be tried by a jury of his peers.

    I find the comment hypocritical that was made that Ben was never acquitted of rape thus excusing him from the accusation of rape. Sooo if Lewis was not found guilty of murder why is he not excused of the accusation of murder. We’re any of us there? Also to say the Ravens could learn from this makes no sense as how many times have we seen a professional athlete get in trouble and the team stands by them not just the Ravens…

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