So where are the other two guys who were with Hernandez?

AP

It’s now clear that Aaron Hernandez faces murder charges.  It’s not clear who was with him that night, and where they now are.

The presentation of evidence from prosecutor Bill McCauley at Wednesday’s arraignment was confusing on at least one point:  The whereabouts of the two men who allegedly were in the car on the evening in question with Hernandez and Odin Lloyd.

At one point, it seemed that the authorities had obtained cooperation from one or both men, given McCauley’s summary of the conversation that occurred in the car, when Hernandez said he couldn’t “trust” anyone.  At another point, it seemed that the two other men are still at large.

Meanwhile, we still don’t know who they are, and their names were not disclosed in court.

So they’re either cooperating with police, which is very bad for Hernandez.  Or they are on the loose, which could be very bad for everyone else.

136 responses to “So where are the other two guys who were with Hernandez?

  1. They are most likely cooperating and their names will not be released for their own safety.

  2. Nice catch on the conversation. I was wondering the same thing myself. They’ve gotta have the cooperation of at least one of em, otherwise how could they know what was talked about? I’m betting they’re trying to keep the names under wraps to keep the media and/or people who would threaten them/their families at bay.

  3. Give the Media a few hours, they will find them! They were too focused on Hernandez. Now that he is behind bars, it won’t be too much longer now …

  4. Maybe not bad for everybody. It could spike a boost in gun and ammunition sales. Those companies would stand to profit from them being on the loose if they became a serious danger to society.

  5. That’s the million dollar question. Although, if they were on the loose, you’d think police would be soliciting the public to help in the search, as they did with the Boston Marathon bombers.

  6. >”So they’re either cooperating with police, which is very bad for Hernandez. Or they are on the loose, which could be very bad for everyone else.”

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    Makes you wonder why it took so long to start arresting people. If all you do is clear some potential killers off the streets, it’s worth it to round them up early and give them orange jumpsuits and their daily portion of green jello.

  7. Did the prosecutor not says during the bail portion that Hernandez helped them flee the jurisdiction?

  8. Just wondering. If Hernadez beats the murder rap and does 2 or 3 years for evidence destruction or something like that would he be welcomed back into the NFL like Ray Lewis was?

  9. Seems clear that they cooperated with the police. Save those testimonies for the trial.

  10. They won’t stay out of the limelight for long either way. Wish he was facing murder in a state that puts murderers ‘to rest’ though.

  11. Hernandez’ lawyer claiming the case to be “circumstantial at best” is a complete insult to the detectives, judge and Odin’s family…no bail!

  12. When the two others attempted to leave when police first showed up had me thinking it was one or both of them that had committed this crime…but now im inclined to think they were trying to get away from AH. If this guy will kill over someone talking, and not to the cops, what would he have done to those two if they did? This will be a movie! On the big screen or Lifetime, this has Hollywood written all over it.

  13. My take was the motive evidence actually came from, in part, his girlfriend. I think she’s a very important witness. I believe the prosecutor said he was seen leaving the house with a gun, but surveillance video captured him returning with a gun. Could have been simply a verbal foible or one piece of evidence is from a video and another is the witness.

    The pros clearly said at the end that Hernandez made it possible for his two buddies to escape the jurisdiction. Who knows what that means (I.e. they crossed into Rhode Island for dinner?).

    My .02.

  14. I’ll say it again here for all to see: stop comparing this situation to Ray Lewis & Atlanta…no one was “murdered” in Atlanta. Murder is homicide without justification or excuse. Georgia charged 3 different people with that crime & none was convicted. The decedent’s in that case ended up dead after initiating a brawl by smashing a champagne bottle over someone’s head…and shots were fired toward Lewis’ group as well. No one has ever proven that the two decedents were “murdered.”

    And another inconvenient FACT for all you haters…Ray Lewis was NEVER alleged to have killed anyone…he was charged under a Georgia statute that allows a murder conviction for simply being there & part of the incident that ended in murder…akin to the felony murder rule…if he wasn’t Ray Lewis, he never would have been charged…just like no one else in his group was charged, except those accused of actually killing the dead guys.

    So stop the madness, and stop the ludicrous comparisons between these two cases!!!

  15. The “other two guys” may now be in some type of witness protection program given the rumors of gang ties.

  16. Maybe Hernandez is starting a new fashion statement with his arms inside his shirt. Kinda like those “pants on the ground” dudes.

    I can see it now with some kid trippin’ down the street with his pants around his knees and his arms inside his shirt.

    Just remember, you heard it here first…….:)

  17. his homies turned on him like it was first 48. “you cant trust anyone anymore” should have taken your own advice and blasted all 3 those biatches!

  18. Wow!!!!! Who is this guy?!?!?!? I know everyone wants to make jokes but this isn’t that funny when someone dies. I hope at least one person cooperates and they throw the book at this guy. What a jerk!

  19. If one of them was cooperating, the pros would have explicitly said Hernandez shot Odin (the cooperator would have given that up). The fact that he didn’t say that specifically makes me think they don’t have the guys on their side.

  20. Explain this: This Clown is being charged with murder, Then ya got Gronk with problem antics off the field, not to mention all the surgeries, Kraft claiming the president of Russia stole his SB ring, and to top it off every1 still wants to know where Tebow fits into the offense!!Why is PFT & ESPN not declaring this classless organazation a circus already? Every move they make is declared “Genius” Yet when the Jets make a similar move it never makes sense, but it made plenty sesnse when these clowns in beantown brought in Ochocinco and haynesworth yet the Jets still get ripped for a Favre trade from 5 yrs ago, Im sick of the media sweating these idiots in Foxboro, ITS BEEN 10 YRS SINCE THEY WON THE SB, FACE IT BEANTOWN, THERE GARBAGE , THERE NOT EVEN GOOD!

  21. moxicity says: Jun 26, 2013 4:04 PM

    Hernandez’ lawyer claiming the case to be “circumstantial at best” is a complete insult to the detectives, judge and Odin’s family…no bail!
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    You’ve obviously never stepped foot in a law school classroom. As a JD the evidence IS circumstantial, insult or not.

  22. mswravens says:
    Jun 26, 2013 4:05 PM
    I’ll say it again here for all to see: stop comparing this situation to Ray Lewis & Atlanta…no one was “murdered” in Atlanta. Murder is homicide without justification or excuse. Georgia charged 3 different people with that crime & none was convicted. The decedent’s in that case ended up dead after initiating a brawl by smashing a champagne bottle over someone’s head…and shots were fired toward Lewis’ group as well. No one has ever proven that the two decedents were “murdered.”
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    This dude doesn’t even qualify as a jailhouse lawyer. He has no clue to what constitutes murder.

  23. You leave a shell under the rental car front seat on the driver’s side (Hernandez was driving) and you leave a dead body with keys in his pocket for a rental car under you’re name. So much for the intelligence of these football players coming out of some Moron U.

  24. It’s the Ray Lewis defense my homies won’t say a word and I won’t either and dead guys can’t talk. Simple back on the ravens…I mean …ya the ravens in a year. Lol

  25. The best explanation for the lack of clarity by the prosecutor today is that the prosecutors are still negotiating with one or both of these two guys over a plea deal. They’ve given them some evidence but haven’t yet agreed to testify against AH. It’s coming though. Presumably, unless they can show that they had no knowledge of AH’s plans whatsoever, they can be charged with homicide just for participating in the crime, whether or not they pulled the trigger. Even if they thought that AH was just going to beat the crap out of the victim, I think the felony murder rule would still allow them to be charged with murder. They’ll talk. And soon.

  26. cervetta12 says: Jun 26, 2013 4:09 PM

    Explain this: This Clown is being charged with murder, Then ya got Gronk with problem antics off the field, not to mention all the surgeries, Kraft claiming the president of Russia stole his SB ring, and to top it off every1 still wants to know where Tebow fits into the offense!!Why is PFT & ESPN not declaring this classless organazation a circus already? Every move they make is declared “Genius” Yet when the Jets make a similar move it never makes sense, but it made plenty sesnse when these clowns in beantown brought in Ochocinco and haynesworth yet the Jets still get ripped for a Favre trade from 5 yrs ago, Im sick of the media sweating these idiots in Foxboro, ITS BEEN 10 YRS SINCE THEY WON THE SB, FACE IT BEANTOWN, THERE GARBAGE , THERE NOT EVEN GOOD!

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    Well said…… I couldn’t have said better myself

  27. They snitched, and are being protected from the media and anyone who may try to shut them up. The evidence shown be circumstantial, but paints a very clear picture of what happened that night. Hernandez is going away for along time. And with all the gun charges he also faces, I’m betting they also found the firearm used. How else would they be charging him with carrying an illegal firearm, and an illegal high capacity firearm if they have no weapon. I believe they have far more evidence then we know about, I don’t see them charging Hernandez if they didn’t make sure all their bases are covered.

  28. Killing someone because you didn’t like what they said!? Infantile.

    What made this moron think he could get away with it by destroying his cellphone and the security tapes?

    Plus if Lloyd wasn’t trustworthy, how much can you trust a guy who shot another dude in the face 5 months prior.

    Murdered out of Hernandezes perceived vanity. Unfathomable.

    Scum. Garbage.

  29. Hernandez will get to Jail on Rte 128 just in time to eat and get in a basketball pick-up game at 7 and then its Metta World Peace and TO’s reality show.

    His defense attorney looks like a guy who signed a $12 Mil bonus.

  30. DA mentioned a few times that Hernandez texted his guys telling them to hurry up, etc. They have to have their phone number and through that their identities.
    I was shocked at the evidence – a lot of video and cell phone tracking. Victim knew he was getting whacked, that is why he texted his sister about “just so you know who I am with” comment. A little chilling.

  31. What is really disturbing about the details is that it sounds as if Mr. Lloyd knew his fate based on his texting his sister to let her know with whom he was traveling. He was killed because he talked with the wrong person at a club? God rest his soul.

    In all the interviews I saw of Hernandez these last few years he seemed like a decent person. He was articulate, and truly seemed appreciative of an opportunity to play in the NFL and for the Patriots. It’s really hard to understand this whole thing.

  32. First of all the gun is right next to the knife that O J used.

    secondly, Hernandez was involved with gangs in college and the two dudes who were with him also are probably gang related friends who would end up like the guy that was killed if they snitched. The cops know who they are and want to make sure they live to testify.

  33. mswravens: Just because no one was convicted of murder doesn’t mean that a murder didn’t occur. And you can console yourself with the fact that no one was charged with murder, but the fact remains that your boy is a convicted felon and the true extent of his involvement in the killing will probably never be known due to his efforts to cover it up.

  34. There is a lot of hate for the Pats. Im indifferent either way but this is a “Godsend” for Tebow. It clears up the “where will he play” now that they are short a big, fast, athletic guy that can catch the ball.

  35. buddysguys says:
    Jun 26, 2013 4:06 PM
    Does the AFC East hold the lead for most murderers

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    Nope, AFC West has that on lockdown…

    Actually, the Raider’s fans do..

  36. lasher1650 says:
    Jun 26, 2013 4:17 PM
    Jeff Fisher signed them both as street free agents right after putting in a waiver claim for Hernandez.

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    Schwartz*

    Fisher has only had 1 problem guy (Trumain Johnson) who was charged with with DUI but took a wreckless driving..

    Lions on the other hand…Titus Young, Nick Fairley,etc…need I go on?

  37. The identities of the other two men are likely being protected, but in the other frequent mention during the arraignment – that of blue Bubblicious gum – you can be sure that someone’s saliva/DNA was on that chewed piece found in the rental car stuck to a .45 shell (likely tried to use the gum to stick the shell up out of sight and the gum failed to hold).

  38. Just wondering. If Hernadez beats the murder rap and does 2 or 3 years for evidence destruction or something like that would he be welcomed back into the NFL like Ray Lewis was?
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    Uhhhh no. Ray Lewis didn’t kill anybody. Go back and read the transcripts of the trial. I used to think he did it too, but I went and read the transcripts and it was clear to me that he didn’t kill anybody. Also, they never even convicted the two guys who were suspected of it either.

  39. @ mswravens

    I totally agree with you about the Ray Lewis comparison. I used to be one of those that believed Ray did it or was involved. It’s really the lazy approach to the whole thing. When I finally went back and read what happened and read the court transcripts, I realized I had the wrong perception the whole time. Ray was trying to leave the whole time. Trying to get his group out of there. Then all hell broke loose when the other group attacked some of his group. I am not a Ray Lewis fan, never have been, but lazy people who don’t want to do the work to find out what really happened keep insisting he killed someone and paid his boys to take the rap. There was no rap, nobody was convicted of murder.

  40. Good thing Hernandez committed these atrocious crimes. The world hasn’t known what to do with themselves ever since that nutjob Jodi Arias trial has been over.

  41. something tells me that they have arrested the wrong guy – how could AH have pulled the trigger? Judging by that photo, the man clearly has no arms.

  42. Put Reddit and the New Yok Post on it. They’ll find the two gangbanger friends of Hernandez and take down multiple innocent people while they’re at it.

  43. Crying shame to see such a young man, with his newborn Daughter, beautiful Fiancee, enough money for a comfortable life, and the talent to maybe one day have a bust in Canton, throw it all away so easily.

    Whether it was the negative influence of the childhood and neighborhood buddies he couldn’t shake, anger management issues, a combination of both, or another issue all together, I cannot think of one good reason for this fella Hernandez to commit such a heinous act. At a minimum, he had access to the kind of resources to resolve any such issue without having to put a bullet thru another persons head.

    Although I personally know none of the folks involved, I am saddened and a bit hurt for all of them. From the Family of Odin Lloyd, to the Family of Aaron Hernandez, this is indeed a truly sad day.

    While it is understood that this is America, where we all are afforded the right of the presumption of innocence until guilt has been proven, this incident, and the professional manner it has been investigated, sure seems to be rather cut and dry. The work of careless and inexperienced (inexperience being a good thing I suppose) individuals. Another reason Mr. Hernandez, if he is found guilty, should have stuck to what he knew, as opposed to what he is accused of having done.

    My heartfelt condolences go out to the Lloyd Family for the loss of their Son, and my best wishes and prayers go out to the young Daughter of Mr. Hernandez and his Fiancee, who it seems may not have a father for at least 20+ years.

  44. They rolled on him, isn’t that apparent? The acquaintances know who they are, but the authorities are not going to reveal their names publicly, for their safety after having cooperated with the law to implicate Hernandez.

  45. So NOW you ask where they are? as a reporter you should have been asking that from the beginning. as a lawyer you should have known better to wait till now to think about that

  46. They brought two guys in… then they went fishing for a gun in water, and went back to the house to look in several different spots. Thus… they are cooperating.

  47. Remember, Mike Vick didn’t want to roll on his boys either. He kept his mouth shut and was the last one to cooperate which is why he did time. Mike Vick also showed us that when the target is a celebrity, prosecution wants the nobodies to flip. This is a major pelt on the D.A.’s wall. it’s guaranteed re-election for all the cops involved. A signature case. It’s not, if the target is the nobodies Hernandez was with.

  48. This is why gun laws are irrelevant. Star football players who you wouldn’t ever think to commit something so horrendous, can go shoot a man in the head. Can’t trust anyone

  49. Another indicator that they’re not cooperating: No gun.

    According to “another media outlet” the comment that he couldn’t “trust anyone anymore” was made in the house (I.e. girlfriend).

    To the tape!!!

  50. Interesting picture in that Hernandez is shown leaving his residence in orange pants and a white t-shirt (t-shirt obviously put on after the cuffs). He was shown in court in a different pair of orange pants and white t-shirt. I hope he likes those colors because he will be wearing them for a very long time.

  51. Have they mentioned, or does anyone know the supposed motive for the killing? If it was mentioned, I missed it. I can’t believe someone with the kind of life he had killing anyone. What a mental midget! Was it a drug deal gone wrong, or something to do with an old grudge, or what?

  52. Two days later, McCauley said, on the night of June 16, Hernandez texted two friends from out of state and asked them to hurry back to Massachusetts.

    Surveillance footage from outside Hernandez’s home showed him leaving with a gun, and he told someone in the house that he was upset and couldn’t trust anyone anymore, the prosecutor said.

    The three men picked up Lloyd at his home around 2:30 a.m., according to authorities. As they drove around, they discussed what happened at the nightclub, and Lloyd started getting nervous, McCauley said.

    Lloyd texted his sister, “Did you see who I am with?” When she asked who, he answered, at 3:22 a.m., “NFL,” then, a minute later, “Just so you know.”

    Within a few minutes, people working the overnight shift at the industrial park reported hearing gunshots, McCauley said.

    AP

  53. These guys dont know jack about being gangsters. If they were real, the body would never be found, much less found within 8 hrs just a mile away.

  54. At least one of them dropped a dime on him or the investigators would not know what was said in the car unless the NSA shared some tricks with them. I just thought it was ironic that they went to pick him up in Squad Car #32. I suppose the 9 officers were to avoid another O.J. car chase.

  55. They snitched. But if they actually are on the run the police have a fugitive task force that will hunt them down. Guys like this rarely go to far. Reward money will also be offered and they will get dimed out by family, friends, or an informant.

  56. gloryfromheaven says:
    Jun 26, 2013 3:56 PM
    “It don’t matter, Hernandez did it”

    Uhhh yes it matters. I don’t want two guys who had any involvement walking away with no consequences.

  57. The other two guys will eventually be cutting a deal with the prosecutors as witnesses. That is probably where their at. What a sad situation for a guy to lose his life over.

  58. Hernandez should have known if you going to do something like that a dead man couldn’t talk, in other word you don’t need witnesses. They are going to throw you under the gun, so Hernandez you are going to need some prayers.

  59. They sing for their freedom. Sooner or later they will be in there too. But I bet we see them at trial. And Aaron will NOT take the stand on this one. His lawyers are good however. They may just need more than what we saw and heard today. But the prosecution will get their arsenal ready.

  60. Plea deal on other charges but the murder charge no plea

    He looked guilty he didn’t seem upset or nothing

    Why would his friends turnon him that would mean their entourage click is over no more money

    If they turned on him. Police would have gun

  61. Clearly those two men are cooperating w/the good guys to help get this animal in jail for the rest of his life. It’s an absolute disgrace. It’s so sad that a man had to lose his life because this tatted out fool was insecure as a fat girl in the middle school locker room. I’m proud of these two men for not selling out on society by taking money from this monkey and keeping him out of jail. AH should get the chair for what he did.

  62. They’re probably smoking cigars with the prosecutors right about now while competing with each other to see who can provide the most useful information against Hernandez and the rest of his crew.

  63. also, killing someone less than a mile from your home is perfect reverse psychology… back and to the left.

  64. the Patriots are such losers, cheating to barely win 3 superbowls then losing 3 and counting…

  65. “it’s guaranteed re-election for all the cops involved.”
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    Cops are elected?
    I should start voting. When did that happen?

  66. Those two are practicing running short routes over the middle. With Wes Welker and the two tight ends gone, Brady has nobody else to throw to because he can’t make a throw deep or to the outside.

  67. These guys are cutting their deals, guaranteed. It’s like Michael Vick’s partners-in-crime — those guys ran faster than Usain Bolt to the DA to save their behinds.

  68. According to reports from the arraignment, the prosecutor indicated that Hernandez drove the car to the location,told the victim to get out and “caused the murder”. Assuming the prosecutor is telling the truth, they had to get that info from someone who was there,1.e. 1 or both of his friends. During the course of the investigation the police got several search warrants, the information provided to the court for the warrants had to come from someplace and the likely person/person(s) had to be someone in the car.

  69. Anyone who’s served Jury Duty knows this is called the “Witness Protection” program. The other accomplices snitched on Hernandez, plain and simple.

  70. apkyletexas says:
    Jun 26, 2013 4:00 PM
    >”So they’re either cooperating with police, which is very bad for Hernandez. Or they are on the loose, which could be very bad for everyone else.”

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    Makes you wonder why it took so long to start arresting people. If all you do is clear some potential killers off the streets, it’s worth it to round them up early and give them orange jumpsuits and their daily portion of green jello.

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    Dude, any lawyer or law enforcement official will tell you that in order to arrest anyone for a specific crime means the law is prepared to formally charge the individual. In order to charge someone, the law has to be in possession or aware of actionable evidence connecting the individual to a crime. The police can’t go around arresting anyone they please who they think may be connected to a crime; if they did they’d be arresting a ton of innocent people for no reason. There would be an insane number of lawsuits filed against the police department if that were the case.

  71. mybrunoblog says:
    Jun 26, 2013 4:02 PM
    Just wondering. If Hernadez beats the murder rap and does 2 or 3 years for evidence destruction or something like that would he be welcomed back into the NFL like Ray Lewis was?

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    Let that go. He’s the most destructive defensive player of our generation and he’ll be a first ballot Hall of Famer.

    It’s like you knew the family personally, or something.

  72. Lets see …?? A video with him walking into his home with a gun in hand !! Has he heard of the tuck rule??

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