Globe: Lloyd’s death could be tied to July 12 double murder

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More and more media outlets have confirmed the jaw-dropping news from FOX  25 that police are investigating Aaron Hernandez in connection with a July 2012 double murder that occurred in Boston.

The latest detail from the Boston Globe will make jaws drop even farther.  According to Maria Cramer of the Globe, an unnamed law-enforcement official has said there’s a possible link between the crimes.

“The motive [for killing Odin Lloyd] might have been that [Lloyd] knew [Hernandez] might have been involved” in the July 2012 homicides, the unnamed law-enforcement official told Cramer.

If true, this would help explain why Hernandez allegedly was upset with Lloyd for something he had said to others on Friday, July 14.  As prosecutor Bill McCauley explained it in court on Wednesday, “The victim had spoken to a couple of people and the defendant told him he was upset about that because he had essentially troubles with those people.”

While McCauley didn’t elaborate, it doesn’t require a huge leap in logic to wonder whether Lloyd had given a friendly warning to the people with whom Hernandez had “troubles” regarding the way Hernandez had dealt with other people with whom he had “troubles” in the past.  Though we’re speculating, the motive to kill Lloyd surely came from something that gave Hernandez serious concern.  Concern doesn’t get much more serious than Hernandez fearing Lloyd would say something that would result in Hernandez being arrested or prosecuted for the July 2012 murders.

If, at is appears, at least one or both of the other two men who were in the car with Hernandez and Lloyd on the night of Lloyd’s death have cooperated with police, it’s possible that one or both of the other two men told the authorities about the events of July 16, 2012.

Regardless of how this all plays out, look for Hernandez’s lawyer to complain at today’s bail hearing about the apparent violation of the gag order that the presiding judge imposed on Wednesday.  It’s hardly a coincidence that news of the other investigation has emerged the day after Hernandez was charged with killing Lloyd.  To the extent the unsolved murders of July 2012 enhance the motive for killing Lloyd, the leak hurts Hernandez even more in the court of public opinion.

Please keep in mind that Hernandez has not been charged with any other crimes beyond the events surrounding the death of Odin Lloyd.

140 responses to “Globe: Lloyd’s death could be tied to July 12 double murder

  1. “Please keep in mind that Hernandez has not been charged with any other crimes beyond the events surrounding the death of Odin Lloyd.”

    That ship might have already sailed.

  2. I suppose a killer must silence any potential witnesses:)

    Looks like AH’s two partners in crime are now singing like a canary.

    Way to go, Pats!

  3. The information discussed (that Lloyd provided people at the club) wouldnt have gotten Hernandez “arrested or prosecuted.” It probably would have gotten him killed…

  4. So rubbing the guy out was going to ensure that you don’t get pinched for those homicides last year? And now you will have even more years tacked on?

    Brilliant.

  5. Looks like the Ortiz guy was in jail during last summers incident, so I’m guessing the info isn’t coming from him. All of it probably coming from the mystery guy #3.

  6. There could be a link with the. 22 they found in the woods near his house and the double homicide from what I read. They had found .22 caliber shells in his house but no gun.

  7. *Puts on good ole Sinatra record*

    ♫ And now, the end is near. And so I face the final curtain ♫

  8. His life would have been much easier if, instead of killing Lloyd, he had just pulled a Snowden and fled to Russia. In exchange for safe haven, he could give Putin an official Pats jersey to go with the Superbowl ring.

  9. That explains it. It was hard to imagine anything more infantile than killing somebody because you didn’t like what they said about you. But Hernandez killed him to cover up a couple more murders.

  10. As ridiculous as the details sound from Mr. Lloyd’s murder, I have a difficult time believing that AH is also responsible for the murders in 2012. It’s been almost a year and there haven’t been any reports AH was linked to that crime until yesterday. As stupid as AH appears in carrying out Lloyd’s murder, I cannot see him being so clever as to be able to avoid suspicion for a year.

  11. I posted this an hour ago.

    Lloyd probably threatened to go public with the 2012 killings and that’s why Hernandez was sweating it.

    MOTIVE

  12. Just a cold blooded sociopath that wanted to cover his tracks. I’m glad he has below average ia or this guy could have done serious things. My respects to the victims families.

  13. Sources also point to Hernandez as the man who ordered Sean Taylor murdered.

    Hurricane vs. Gators.

    END THIS WAR.

  14. wow this is insane. He very well could have been invlolved but I am very weary of “unnamed law enforcement sources”. Much of the information that came out from unnamed law enforcement officials prior to Aarons court appearance proved to be basically false according to the district attorney. For example all of the reports that his cell phone and home security system were smashed or destroyed. According to the DA the men turned off the home security system and his cell phone was “recovered”. Basically all of the accurate information we have has come from the DA and the unnamed sources have been very inaccurate. Still wouldn’t put it past him though.

  15. “Aaron, Aaron, Aaron, you have to learn how to properly destroy the evidence my boy”

    -Bill Belichick

  16. If Hernandez was so afraid that someone would find out about the earlier murders, he shouldn’t have done such a sloppy job on the Lloyd murder. Now everyone knows about all three murders. I guess that’s irony.

  17. So two days before Lloyd is killed, Hernandez texts two guys from out of state and says come on down, presumably to kill Lloyd. Why would they do that? Because they were all together in the car when they killed the two guys in Boston. If one of those guys lives in Rhode Island and drives a grey SUV, case closed.

  18. His boys definitely snitched on him about last year’s double homicide. That info didn’t just appear to authorities. The whole case is shaping up pretty well. This isn’t like OJ’s day when there was no cell phones and home surveillance on wealthy individuals’ home. You can’t get away with anything these days. There is always an electronic link

  19. Unreal. I remember when that 2012 incident happened on the news, how no one was ever caught. Cant believe AHern could be the one that did it, and now killed another person to help keep that buried.. This gets crazier by the minute. What a scumbag. You were so good to. Idiot.

  20. If the homicide dept is as dilligent on the 2012 murders as they were on the Lloyd case, it’ll only be a matter of time before Hernandez has 3 counts of murder 1.

  21. Doesn’t the gag order only apply to the specific details of the Hernandez-Lloyd murder investigation?

  22. This is like a soap opera for grown ass men. I’m fascinated. It’s like my hand works independently of my brain and must click on every Aaron Hernandez story that I see.

  23. Hernandez may be a serial killer!

    Who knows what that guy had going on outside of football…A very sordid life.

    I was thinking it was a drug deal gone bad but this latest twist to the story makes a whole lot more sense.

  24. HOLY MOSES!! I thought the NFL, and or the individual teams, or BOTH checked potential draftees extremely carefully.

  25. It is easier to destroy evidence down in Florida where there are hungry gators to eat it.

  26. Hernandez rented a silver or gray SUV with Rhode Island License plate back in 2012.

    Same MO for both murders, so far!

  27. ctiggs says:
    Jun 27, 2013 1:42 PM
    If this is true, to bad he didnt commit these crime in a death penalty state.

    ______________

    Life in prison is way worse. You’re not living, you’re waiting to die. What do you have to look forward too? Everyday you have the same nothing.

  28. When Tebow and Aaron Hernandez are on the same team Aaron always gets into trouble.
    @ Florida and NE.
    Tebow is trouble!

  29. I imagine officials in Florida are rifling through unsolved murder cases as we speak.

  30. Admire the Pats for cutting this piece of crap loose, but I also wonder how much research they did on this punk prior to drafting him. His shady character was pretty well established and not a secret when he left Florida. If I live in the Boston area, Belicheck’s typical one and two sentence answers won’t quite be enough on this matter.

  31. If true, this would help explain why Hernandez allegedly was upset with Lloyd for something he had said to others on Friday, July 14.

    WHAT?

    I guess Lloyd will be talking to Hernandez
    in the future even though he is DEAD.

  32. This is why Hernandez was talking about not being able to trust certain ppl. Dbl murder, execution of Odin Lloyd and the guy he shot in theface. If it all adds up, death penalty if they allow that in MASSACHUSETTS will definitely be a possibility. Wow.

  33. Ok, let’s piece this together:

    1) Lloyd and Hernandez know each other for little over a year ( time frame fits)
    2) Vehicle for both murders- SUV ( that fits)
    3) Same two associates at both murder scene (that fits)
    4) Most probably a ballistic match between recovered bullets ( Hmmm……)
    5) Why did Lloyd text his sister three minutes before getting shot?( “NFL”, you know who I am with)

    You decide……..

  34. This now begs the question as to Hernandez’s motive in killing the two people a year ago, assuming he was the perpetrator at that time. If Lloyd was a witness and Hernandez killed him to shut him up, that would fit with everything else, but it doesn’t say much about Hernandez’s motives last year. I assume that detail is still to come.

    Hernandez is probably going to have to be put on suicide watch at the rate these new developments are coming out.

  35. thesteelers says: Jun 27, 2013 1:33 PM

    The sky is falling now, Aaron. How does it feel?
    ———————————————————
    Does it make you any better that you can gloat about a former NFL star falling from grace?
    Is your life that sordid that it gives you great pleasure to see someone in that (self-inflicted) predicament?
    When you have those moments of gloating and satisfaction and call names at the expense of others failures you invariably reveal less of them and more of you.
    But alas, stupid has never lost and argument.

  36. Assumming even all this is true, its still the most moronic way to commit a crime – few yards from his house, leave an electronic and shell casing trail,leave rental car right there to find.Just stupid.
    By the way ,Iam not condoning the act. Just dumb criminal.

  37. What a waste of talent and a human being like Hernandez.

    This is the core issue with what’s wrong with professional sports.

    Young, immature athletes given millions of dollars with no true sense of integrity and moral character. Just perpetual selfishness.

    May God have mercy on Hernandez’s soul.

    I pray and grieve the loss of Odin Lloyd and his family.

  38. Boston Police Department has located and impounded a silver SUV with Rhode Island registration that police have been trying to find for almost a year, that’s linked to the scene of a double homicide in 2012, the source said.

    Investigators believe that Hernandez was renting the SUV at the time of those killings, the source said.

  39. “jacunn2000 says: Jun 27, 2013 1:37 PM

    This guy needs to be under the jail. He would be in REALLY bad shape if he committed these crimes in Texas. They don’t mess around.”
    =============

    Yeah, because they really cracked down on Josh Brent who killed a teammate last year drunk driving. It’s not like he’s out on bail and just failed a drug test.

    OH WAIT, yes he is. But yeah, Texas is SOOO tough on football players that they’re having a hearing in 3-4 weeks about revoking his bail.

    Don’t mess with Texas! (Unless you play football.)

  40. The motive definitely makes sense now but how could they all be (especially Hernandez) so sloppy in the murder of Lloyd? They surely didn’t plan that out very well. Just goes to show how stupid Henandez really is. What a waste.

  41. elway6532 says:Jun 27, 2013 1:59 PM

    TO ALL THE TEBOW HATERS… I GUESS CHARACTER DOES MATTER AFTER ALL!!!
    ____________________________________

    No, this confirms the exact opposite. If Hernandez walks here, despite everything, he’ll be a starter again in no time because hes a top 5 talent at his position. And Tebow, despite being a saint, is likely still destined for the CFL because hes not in the top half on backups in the NFL.

  42. mr. hernandez was also linked to two people being shot while he was in college, I have a feeling his associates are in some kind of gang. he is connected to 3 homicides, and shooting a guy in his face. plus whatever else leaks out !

  43. The University of Florida is going on record to reiterate that Aaron Hernandez has never murdered exactly 2 people.

  44. O.J. and Ray Lewis shared the NFL record for a long time, but it looks like it’s finally about to be broken.

  45. It’s a good thing Hernandez wasn’t around during ”Spygate” otherwise Matt Walsh would be sitting in a car with a bullet lodged in his cranium

  46. Looks like Hernandez is a Tony Sopranos fan, like many of us. Except that he apparently took notes.

  47. (With apologies to thesteelers)

    *Puts on the good ole Alabama 3 record*

    You woke up this morning
    Got yourself a gun,
    Mama always said you’d be
    The Chosen One.

    She said: You’re one in a million
    You’ve got to burn to shine,
    But you were born under a bad sign,
    With a blue moon in your eyes.

  48. I keep seeing editorials replaying the message that these players just can’t dump their friends and that’s why they get in trouble. Um, no. Looks like AH is the bad apple here. There’s a few mothers out there wishing their little Johnny didn’t spend so much time running with Aaron.

  49. What did I tell you!!!

    “What is known is that the Boston Police Department has located and impounded a silver SUV with Rhode Island registration that police have been trying to find for almost a year, that’s linked to the scene of a double homicide in 2012, the source said.

    Investigators believe that Hernandez was renting the SUV at the time of those killings, the source said.”

    That idiot…..now twice he rented a SUV for his murdering spree!!

  50. The only people who rent cars on a longish term basis and continually swap them out are perps and the cops chasing said perps.

    A two year lease is about 20 times cheaper.

    HUGE red flag as to his social habits…

  51. TO ALL THE TEBOW HATERS… I GUESS CHARACTER DOES MATTER AFTER ALL!!!
    ____________________________________

    No, this confirms the exact opposite. If Hernandez walks here, despite everything, he’ll be a starter again in no time because hes a top 5 talent at his position. And Tebow, despite being a saint, is likely still destined for the CFL because hes not in the top half on backups in the NFL.

    ————————-

    Ike Taylor might not agree with Tebow being a loser.

    You’re telling me that you wouldnt mind your kid wearing a Hernandez jersey? I’ll take Tebow over Hernandez any day on any team I would manage.

    Get used to it. Next time toothpick legs Brady gets a hangnail Tebow will lead your team past a first round knockout- and he wont be throwing to any gang members either.

    Brady can pout on the sidelines in his furry Ughs.

  52. Ok let’s say he’s for certain in a gang based on reported facts…Do gang members need a whole lot of reason for doing someone in?

    The thing is each day this puzzle seems to get easier to put together, and it’s not looking good for Hernandez…

    On a final note it might be wise for NFL teams to stay away from players with the initials A.H. Aaron Hernandez and Albert Haynesworth albeit Haynesworth didn’t kill anyone just felt their bums and boobs and slapped another motorist and robbed the Redskins and Patriots among some of his transcressions…

  53. This guy should just start wearing a hooded robe and carrying around a giant scythe. He even scares the crap out of the “amateurs” like Ray, Rae and Titus to name a few. If PFT did a Mt. Rushmore for all-time NFL deviants, Aaron is at the head of the class. Dude is freakin scary. Lastly, Mr. Hernandez, I’m sorry I’ve said such mean things about you. Please don’t come looking for me.

  54. What an animal. Just sad that he was still walking around all this time, free to murder Odin Lloyd. Hernandez clearly thought he could do anything he wanted to and get away with it. It’s 2013 pal….enjoy the rest of your awful life in jail.

  55. Ok. Confirmed. He is now “officially a serial killer”
    ———————

    Is this story real or some crazy viral plug that got out of hand for season 8 of Dexter?

  56. Man two of the biggest trials across the country this year possibly could be in Boston…that’s if it doesn’t get prolonged like in Florida where it’s been 6 years and Sean Taylors killers have still yet gone to trial…but anyhow the Boston Marathon bombers trial and Hernandez boy court tv will be spending a lot of time in beantown…

  57. I guarantee that this case will completely uproot the way teams evaluate players. This goes back to the whole Jeff Ireland fiasco where he was accused of asking questions to potential players which seemed (at least on the surface) to cross the line. You know what? tough……… When a team is investing millions of dollars into these players, they better be able to ask whatever questions they need in order to feel confident that their investment will pay off. If that means the player will feel a little uncomfortable, so be it.

  58. Wow. All these murders (OJ/Carruth/Hernandez/Belcher) just make you wish for the good old 70’s, when out of control NFLers just took potshots at helicopters!

  59. He had a few days to think about and plan this murder and the best he could come up with was to pick the guy up at his house, drive him directly to the kill site. But not before stopping to pick up some bubble gum that he will chew and leave at the crime scene, then drive directly home while video taping himself coming and going with a gun.

    And we’re supposed to believe he did all of this while not being high. If he failed another marijuana drug test while with the Pats that might be his best defense.

  60. Goodell’s worst nightmare:

    Hernandez pleads insanity and blames the concussions for making him do it.

    Don’t laugh. I could totally see this happening.

  61. Beyond the basic – thou shall not kill fact – I think we all find it unbelievable that someone with his life and opportunity could screw things up so much. When a crack-head living on the street with no education and no future does something like this, its bad enough.

    When someone with Hernandez’s education, potential, and realized opportunity commits this type of crime it really is baffling. What does this say about society?

  62. News flash. Hernandez upset with attorney shoots and kills him, reloads, kills all his school mates he didn’t like, the maid, a guy who served him the wrong drink, someone who looked at him wrongly, and a few others just for the heck of it. LOL

  63. You should really make a tribute post about the guy killed. Even if it’s small on details. Age, Kids, Wife? The picture above is the first time I could identify with the victim.

  64. the reason they were sloppy with killing Lloyd is because Hernandez panicked. He saw Lloyd talking to people he didn’t like and probably figured he was talking to them more beyond the club. Eliminate the problem as quick as possible. Problem is, by doing that, you get sloppy and leave tracks.

  65. If only he wasn’t corrupted by Satan in Gainsville, via the heavy hand of Timmy, his college roommate – life might have gone in a more godly direction.

  66. Just asking, but “if” he was involved in the other murders, and since they took place before he signed his new contract, does that mean the Pats are off the hook for all of the dough? Just asking. I’m not sure if I have been watching the AH story or the Whitey Bulger story – or the Sopranos!

  67. Who to cast in the “Aaron Hernandez ” Lifetime movie:

    AH: Jay Hernandez
    Tom Brady: Sam Worthington
    Bill Belichick: Tommy Lee Jones
    Gronkowski: Channing Tatum
    AH girlfriend: Tisha Campbell
    Odin Lloyd: Blair Underwood
    Ah Associate #1: Cheech Marin
    AH Associate #2: Danny Trejo
    Jeremy Schaap: Billy Crystal
    Tom Jackson: as himself

  68. I know it’s common knowledge to drive the heck outta rental cars…..but this is getting ridiculous.

  69. mediasloppy says:Jun 27, 2013 2:48 PM

    You should really make a tribute post about the guy killed. Even if it’s small on details. Age, Kids, Wife? The picture above is the first time I could identify with the victim.
    ______

    My guess is that the victim wasn’t exactly a saint himself. Not sure he deserves a tribute.

  70. Vteambringitstrong says:
    Jun 27, 2013 2:02 PM
    thesteelers says: Jun 27, 2013 1:33 PM

    The sky is falling now, Aaron. How does it feel?
    ———————————————————
    Does it make you any better that you can gloat about a former NFL star falling from grace?
    Is your life that sordid that it gives you great pleasure to see someone in that (self-inflicted) predicament?
    When you have those moments of gloating and satisfaction and call names at the expense of others failures you invariably reveal less of them and more of you.
    But alas, stupid has never lost and argument.

    —————————-

    To teambringitstrong- how do you find this person to be gloating and receiving satisfaction from Aaron Hernandez “fall from grace”?? Maybe satisfaction is coming from the angle that this is a person who killed someone’s son, someone’s brother, someone’s father and is being brought to justice despite the fact that he himself thinks he’s untouchable and above everyone else in society. And if you don’t agree with that then tell me what gives him the right to decide who lives and dies? You must be a fan of his to be speaking like you did, and if that’s true I understand being a little bit salty over this happening to someone you looked up too, but this isn’t a football player anymore. This is a cold blooded murder and possibly a serial killer.

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