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NFL security chief: Criticizing Patriots is 20/20 hindsight

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The Patriots have taken some criticism in the last couple weeks, as stories about Aaron Hernandez’s checkered past have led to questions about why New England drafted him, and why the team gave him a $40 million contract extension last year. But the man who oversees the NFL’s security department says that criticism of the Patriots is unfair.

NFL security director Jeff Miller told Alex Marvez of FOX Sports that no issues the league or the teams knew of with Hernandez suggested that he could be a murderer.

That’s a difficult criticism to make of any club,” Miller said. “It’s hard to predict how a young man is going to perform and mature. Certainly there are players who have been drafted where teams know they are taking a calculated risk. Sometimes, the risk is greater than others. Hindsight is always 20/20 in a situation where a player gets into serious trouble and people say, ‘See, I knew this was going to happen.’ Even though I’m sure there are a lot of clubs that have concerns about certain players going into the draft, if those players are drafted, the teams try to work with them through their player engagement and security personnel to take the steps necessary to prevent the kinds of things that can cause big problems to a player and a team.”

Teams always want to take the steps necessary to prevent big problems off the field, but in the case of Hernandez, Miller thinks a first-degree murder charge is something no one could have seen coming.

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119 Responses to “NFL security chief: Criticizing Patriots is 20/20 hindsight”
  1. ridingwithnohandlebars says: Jun 28, 2013 7:02 AM

    Belichick is friends with Urban Meyer so he probably trusted him when he vouched for his players.

  2. jetsclaps says: Jun 28, 2013 7:02 AM

    Yet the Jets get criticized for picking up Mike Goodson even though he had no prior criminal history.

  3. officialgame says: Jun 28, 2013 7:07 AM

    Haven’t new reports surfaced involving serious warning signs and Hernandez still received a SECOND contract worth 45M from the Pats? Unless maybe someone put a gun to their head.

  4. golfsox78 says: Jun 28, 2013 7:07 AM

    There isn’t anyone out there who can predict if someone will blatantly plan and murder another person. Even while in court he has a smug, arrogant look on his face. I have a feeling that players in the locker room knew of some activity that he was a part of. I like to believe I know the people in my family and the people at my work as well, but if you think about it do we “REALLY” know them? Anyone is capable of anything at any time. I would like to think that most of us are decent humans who would run into a burning building to save another person, not deliberately plan and execute someone.

  5. Akula says: Jun 28, 2013 7:09 AM

    Hernandez was not going to go undrafted. Any fan who thinks their team would not have drafted him if the Pats passed are kidding themselves.

  6. hehateme2 says: Jun 28, 2013 7:13 AM

    They deserve some criticism. The arrogance of always thinking they can “convert” all of these malcontents has clearly backfired in several cases.

    Truth be told, the pats aren’t as smart as they think they are. ;-)

  7. nesuperfan says: Jun 28, 2013 7:19 AM

    I agree. Teams take a risk with every player: Character, health, ability, etc. Many teams have taken chances on players with character issues of varying degrees since professional football is about winning. Of course, they are willing to overlook things up to a point if a player shows great potential, but the reality is that who can really tell when someone will turn out to be a murderer? You cannot plan your signings based on that worst case scenario, or you might not sign anyone ever. We simply cannot read minds.

  8. footballfan58 says: Jun 28, 2013 7:19 AM

    To blame the Patriots organizaation, Robert Kraft or Bill Belichick is the most asinine thing that has come up in this horrible situation. No team’s management has to babysit it’s players and hold their hands 24/7. These men are supposed to be adults. To treat them any different would be a slap in the face to a majority of them. By all appearances, AH was turning his life around. Who knew this was going to happen?? To criticize BB or RK is completely wrong. These men try to give troubled players a chance to shine with their talents and give them a reason to become productive members of society. They also do their best to take away the media’s ability to hound thier players.

    Aaron Hernandez is a monster. He’s ruined a number of people’s lives and he needs to pay dearly for that. He’s a disgrace to his family, his former team and to all of New England. This is in no way the fault of the Patriots organization.

  9. jpb12 says: Jun 28, 2013 7:20 AM

    Jets fan

  10. youngs79 says: Jun 28, 2013 7:21 AM

    Maybe they didn’t know Hernandez was a murderer, but it goes to a pattern of picks. Haynesworth, Moss, Ochocinco, Tebow, and the jury is still out on Gronk, not talent wise, but off the field and injuries. He had back problems in college. Belicheck has shown recently ” the Patriot way” is not working. The hoodie needs to be held accountable.

  11. wrenches2pipes says: Jun 28, 2013 7:23 AM

    There is no way the Pats could ever know he was going to be accused of murder. Ever.

  12. moreringsthanyou says: Jun 28, 2013 7:26 AM

    True

  13. jagsfan1 says: Jun 28, 2013 7:26 AM

    Cue the ” We have NEVER seen Brady and Belichick so FOCUSED” in training camp stories….

    Yeah right – whatever…it will be a real pleasure watching hoodie standing helpless on the sidelines watching his 8-8 team with the same dumb, “I’m overwhelmed and look anything BUT genius like” look as every other coach….with nothing more to add but gems like “Just do your job”.

    While at the same time – Marcia is throwing temper tantrums, stomping her feet, and trying to girl kick her opponents as they lose another game.

    In the words of Bart Scott “Can’t Wait!”

  14. ColtsWinColtsWin!! says: Jun 28, 2013 7:26 AM

    Yea, this was a shocker.

  15. petehemlock says: Jun 28, 2013 7:32 AM

    Tell that to the teams who didn’t pick him.

  16. jetfan28 says: Jun 28, 2013 7:33 AM

    Let me start with saying I tend to agree. NFL teams should give guys a shot at a career so I don’t criticize them when they occasionally turn up with a bad apple. That will happen from time to time.
    However, I find it funny that when the Jets signed a guy who’s never broken the law before (Goodson) and he gets in trouble with the Jets, the narrative is that the GM failed and the Jets are a joke for signing him and not doing background checks.
    Yet the Pats drafted a gut with gang ties and all of these other issues AND re-ups by giving him $40 mil, the narrative is that you can’t blame them.

    How exactly does that work?

  17. spideysdog says: Jun 28, 2013 7:39 AM

    yeah, and the dudes right. psychos show up in every industry and every walk of life. criticism is kind of ridiculous.

    on the flip side….. it’s BB. one is almost morally required to criticize the devil at each and every opportunity no matter how big the stretch is…..

  18. niner13 says: Jun 28, 2013 7:40 AM

    Typical NFL apologist for Robt. Kraft, a Goodell favorite.

  19. thesteelers says: Jun 28, 2013 7:42 AM

    They should have had better insight than anyone into his character. Yet, they sign him to a $40 million contract with two years left on his rookie deal? You have to question that decision.

  20. skoobyfl says: Jun 28, 2013 7:44 AM

    If it was any other team, there would be a loss of draft picks.

  21. Iknoweverything says: Jun 28, 2013 7:45 AM

    Then what excuse does Jerry Jones and the Cowboys have for keeping the drunk driving killer, who has tested positive for weed while out on bail…..TWICE

    Seriously, Goodell should strip ownership away from Jones because he has been tarnishing the shield, ripping off the fans, and running that team into the ground wit boneheaded decisions

  22. blackball407 says: Jun 28, 2013 7:46 AM

    If teams knew he was going to drive drunk or hit a woman then AH would be a Bengal. If teams knew he was going to rape a woman then he would be a Steeler. If teams knew that AH was going to kill someone then he would be a Raven.

  23. Walter Sobchak says: Jun 28, 2013 7:49 AM

    I dont think drafting Hernandez was a mistake at all. How many 4th round picks last 3 seasons in the NFL? Of the few that stick around, how many of them play at a Pro Bowl level during those 3 years? I think the Pats drafted based on value ( a 1st round talent falling to round 4), and the production on the field has justified the pick. How could anyone know that he was a friggin serial shooter…

    Plus, by all accounts, it seemed like after his daughter was born he was making an effort to leave the past behind him, apparently behind the scenes he wasnt making too much effort.

    Best thing for him would have probably been getting drafted by a west coast team, to keep him as far away from Florida and Connecticut as possible, rather than giving him millions of dollars and making him feel like Tony Montana on his home turf

  24. posmoo says: Jun 28, 2013 7:50 AM

    protect the shield.

  25. titansbro says: Jun 28, 2013 7:53 AM

    It’s one thing to draft him, but a totally different thing to give him $41 M when he still had 2 years on his rookie deal. If course, you cannot have though he would be out killing people. However, there were plenty if issues hiding in plain sight that should’ve given them an idea that he was bad news. The Pats players seemed to know it, why not management?

  26. gpete1962 says: Jun 28, 2013 7:58 AM

    Leave Bill alone!!!

  27. kelz1966kelz1966 says: Jun 28, 2013 8:00 AM

    Is this the same security chief who had no problems with drugs and steroids found in the Eagles taining camp last year, in the same room as a dead body?
    Amounts way more than just for personnal use?
    Not one eye batted at someone Over Dosing in an NFL training camp facility.

  28. nyg201 says: Jun 28, 2013 8:05 AM

    How about forcing potential 2/3-year college players to play out all four years of college ball. It won’t put an end to bad player conduct. However, it will force young players to hopefully mature in college and focus on education. Seems like some of these guys are coming out too early for their own good.

  29. southcarolinamike says: Jun 28, 2013 8:05 AM

    It’s obvious the NFL needs more babysitters and fewer Security Chiefs.

  30. nxsteven says: Jun 28, 2013 8:07 AM

    Albert Haynesworth, Ochocinco, Dante Stallworth, Aaron Hernandez….

    I think a better catch phrase would be Murders Row.

    “The Patriot Way” is a total load of crap.

  31. roadbiscuit says: Jun 28, 2013 8:08 AM

    The NFL’s security department has begun its own investigation into former Patriots TE Aaron Hernandez’s murder trial. Results of the investigation will eventually be presented to Roger Goodell, who seems sure to suspend Hernandez indefinitely. The NFL informed all 32 teams on Thursday that it would strongly discourage any club from attempting to sign Hernandez to a contract during his trial. Speaking to FOX Sports, one source described Hernandez as a “would-be gangbanger” and acknowledged the Patriots were “concerned” with his behavior before the murder(s) came to light.

  32. avrus says: Jun 28, 2013 8:09 AM

    Looks like with the signing of Tim Tebow the circus has pulled into New England.

  33. ZakGilbertTributePosterVerified says: Jun 28, 2013 8:12 AM

    The Pats deserve some criticism for Hernandez. Not for drafting or even paying him. But for allowing him to continue his pattern of behavior. Most likely a pattern that started when he was in pee-wee league. There are any number of people that could have stepped in at any time, smacked him across the head and told him his behavior was unacceptable. But since he was a difference maker on the field, I’m sure his transgressions were summed up as “he’s just a kid”. Well looks like the kid grew up and got himself into something bigger that even “the Father Flanagan of the NFL” Bill Belichick can fix.

  34. ramcountry says: Jun 28, 2013 8:14 AM

    Well, that all depends.

    I still want to know how Hernandez could shoot a guy in the face and not be held accountable by the team, the league or the law.

  35. touchdownroddywhite says: Jun 28, 2013 8:16 AM

    Three first degree murders… allegedly. What is the over/under on him walking?

  36. thefiesty1 says: Jun 28, 2013 8:17 AM

    He hasn’t been convicted of murder, yet. Remember Ray Lewis? How about NO more “insight” until after he is found guilty or aqquitted.

  37. tatum064 says: Jun 28, 2013 8:23 AM

    No, its not 20/20 hindsight…its just a helluva lot of fun. Especially “The Patriot Way”

    And Tebow now?

  38. jwil007 says: Jun 28, 2013 8:23 AM

    Here is my thing…NE has drafted a player with Felonies, had players fail test for PED, now this…They havent been squeaky clean either..My point is that now you have the NFL Chief of Security speaking out in defense of the Patriots???? Where was he with the Bengals, Oakland, Detroit, Seattle, Bmore, Pitt, Jacksonville… Yea….Protect ya model franchise all you want.. But they made a BAD decision keep it fair across the board!

  39. thraiderskin says: Jun 28, 2013 8:25 AM

    “Criticizing Patriots is 20/20 hindsight.” Yeah, not really… there was a reason he slipped to the 4th round with all that talent. I don’t think the Patriots are morons, but a little criticism is due… Even if NFL security is in protection mode (which looks really sad).

  40. maynardstool says: Jun 28, 2013 8:26 AM

    It wasn’t that hard to predict. There’s a reason a first round talent wasn’t drafted until the 4th round.

  41. whatjusthapped says: Jun 28, 2013 8:28 AM

    He’s right, it is 20/20 hindsight. I attribute more to karma, the team that cheats will eventually pay a price for its moral bankruptcy.

  42. Kaz says: Jun 28, 2013 8:28 AM

    Do they come out and say that about all clubs? Interesting. I’ve never heard the NFL security chief come out and protect all the other clubs who take heat for signing/drafting bad characters. In fact I thought the League threatened to fine clubs.

  43. tonyugoh says: Jun 28, 2013 8:35 AM

    He’s right, there’s a big difference between smoking weed in college and being a potential sociopathic murderer.

  44. ahostiletakeover says: Jun 28, 2013 8:35 AM

    No one is criticizing his drafting, every single draft pick, even down to Mr. Irrelevant have a degree of risk to the organization. But paying him that much for two productive seasons in a system that caters to his skill set? Most teams would have let him play out that rookie contract first. At worst, the Patriots could have been on the hook for a 2-3 million dollar cap hit for a high RFA tender and that would have been it while they initiated long term contract talks. The Ravens’ Dennis Pitta who was selected one pick after Hernandez in the same draft is currently a RFA in the exact same manner i just described so it was certainly an option for the Pats before they threw 40 million at Hernandez.

  45. charleythedinosaur says: Jun 28, 2013 8:39 AM

    Urban Meyer calls up Belichick-
    “Hey I thought he was a good kid. Sure there was the weed and gangs and being questioned about a another shooting down here. I’m blindsided.”

  46. deadeye says: Jun 28, 2013 8:40 AM

    New England may not deserve criticism, but they also don’t deserve to be called “classy” either. I think the teams that had AH removed from their draft boards altogether are classier than the Patriots.

  47. mungman69 says: Jun 28, 2013 8:40 AM

    Hernandez will spend the rest of his life in prison. Boy o Boy.

  48. thelastwordyaheard says: Jun 28, 2013 8:46 AM

    maybe during the Combine interviews, instead of asking “Do you like women?” they should start asking “How many people have you killed?”

  49. mikebrownfaux says: Jun 28, 2013 8:49 AM

    “Albert Haynesworth, Ochocinco, Dante Stallworth, Aaron Hernandez….

    I think a better catch phrase would be Murders Row.

    “The Patriot Way” is a total load of crap.”
    ————-
    I agree completely… Franchises that are often considered “world class” like New England and Pittsburgh… Are exactly who teams like Cincinnati’s and Cleveland try to emulate.. The way they operate really isn’t as far apart as a lot of fans would like to have you think… The NFL is like McDonalds, when you buy in to a franchise you get the same plastic mold as everyone else..

  50. sicklnick121 says: Jun 28, 2013 8:49 AM

    I like Belichick, I do.. But maybe I just like him cause he was a part of Parcels coaching tree.

    Ever since he took over this team, its been one controversy after the next. At some point this team and Kraft need to step up. If I was in charge of the NFL I would seriously consider fining Kraft or asking him to get a football mind in charge, someone that can straighten out this organization. Really been some classless events that has hindered the shield.. From the tuck rule, to spy gate, and on and on to this event..

    Im sorry but Belichick should be fired!

  51. FoozieGrooler says: Jun 28, 2013 8:51 AM

    Is it just me, or does it seem like every offseason of late, one team is selected to be raked over the coals for months…?

  52. dudermcrbohan says: Jun 28, 2013 8:59 AM

    whatjusthapped says:
    Jun 28, 2013 8:28 AM
    He’s right, it is 20/20 hindsight. I attribute more to karma, the team that cheats will eventually pay a price for its moral bankruptcy.

    yet another person without the faintest idea of what karma actually is.

  53. drinkydie says: Jun 28, 2013 9:02 AM

    They would have noticed he was armed if he showed up to his draft day interviews with a clear gallon bag.

  54. bullcharger says: Jun 28, 2013 9:02 AM

    ramcountry says:
    Jun 28, 2013 8:14 AM
    Well, that all depends.

    I still want to know how Hernandez could shoot a guy in the face and not be held accountable by the team, the league or the law.

    ——————–

    The Patriots had no idea I would assume. It already came out that the victim in that case was uncooperative with police at the time of the incident and wouldn’t identify who did it, and actually led police to believe it was a black man. Only when the civil case was submitted recently would anyone have known.

  55. vozki says: Jun 28, 2013 9:02 AM

    Releasing him and eating his contract for now because he was not cooperating with the police? Classy move that other teams would not have done.

    To the ones that think drafting him was a bad idea. Your team would have jumped all over him if we offered him for a 4th round draft pick last year.

  56. lflib69 says: Jun 28, 2013 9:04 AM

    It’s pretty funny when people on here say the Patriots have “known” that Hernandez has been involved in criminal behavior and have been quiet about it. So basically you are saying that after shooting someone in the arm with the bullet going through to his face, Aaron went to the Patriots Locker room and “bragged” about what he did and all the Pats did was say “Shhhh Aaron…you did not do that now go catch a ball”! Get real…..sure Aaron didn’t participate with any Pats players off the field and had an attitude problem but that isn’t the only thing that makes one a murderer. If an attitude problem makes one a murderer than I know many people who are murderers based on their attitude alone. Point fingers where they should be pointed…at Aaron Hernandez.

  57. ravens4lifeudig says: Jun 28, 2013 9:04 AM

    How Can A Team know a Guy is out Killing people . He had Problems But nobody knew he was murdering ppl. moron!!!!!!!

  58. it's all bs says: Jun 28, 2013 9:04 AM

    it’s a sad situation for the NFL and for the Pat’s. BUT the Pat’s aren’t responsible for this guy’s behavior anyway……is it wrong for me to so GLAD that it’s not my team this nutter played for???

  59. webofbelief says: Jun 28, 2013 9:14 AM

    “youngs79 says:
    Jun 28, 2013 7:21 AM

    Maybe they didn’t know Hernandez was a murderer, but it goes to a pattern of picks. Haynesworth, Moss, Ochocinco, Tebow, and the jury is still out on Gronk, not talent wise, but off the field and injuries. ”

    ————————————

    How did you manage to lump Tim Tebow in with those other guys? Also, aside from Gronk, none of the players you mentioned were even drafted by the Patriots.

  60. relggigeht says: Jun 28, 2013 9:17 AM

    Maybe now my Steelers can start whipping this team:)

  61. maverick2560 says: Jun 28, 2013 9:22 AM

    Remember in the NFL talent rules! Coaches always believe they can control or modify player behavior. Where a coach draws the line is the issue. Talent vs distraction. The answer is never easy. However if a current Patriot player was permitted to talk to media and actually tell the truth a great number would tell you that Hernandez was a problem. Late for meetings, late for treatment, essentially no friends on the team. He was not a well liked teammate. I would be willing to bet that when the initial news about Hernandez possibly being involved ….most teammates and ex- teammates believed that he was involved more than the average fan.
    Roger Goodell talks about discipline and accountability but until a college athlete is excluded because of his past behavior clubs will still take chances where they see talent giving them an edge. I realize that this is difficult but the NFL could exclude with an agreement with the union and the union gives in all the time ….if given some small concession. Maybe the union will allow the NFL to exclude players like Hernandez coming out of college if the NFL gives the union proceeds from the sale of Bubblicious gum!

  62. emma333 says: Jun 28, 2013 9:22 AM

    The Patriots are teflon. For those defending them, there was plenty of evidence of behavior problems with Hernandez. However, when mistakes are made, they are still heralded as doing things “the Patriot way”. A less popular team would be skewered for this, and then have articles about needing to move to LA, London or Moscow. This might be the year that the Patriot way finally proves to be just as average as the next team.

  63. b3nz0z says: Jun 28, 2013 9:22 AM

    They should have picked him up in the sixth round.

  64. glazerh8er says: Jun 28, 2013 9:23 AM

    Totally agree with him, the media like to swoop in with 20-20 hindsight all the time and pretend like their heroes with their criticism. Living in Florida you wouldn’t believe it, talk show hosts talking about how Florida “enabled” him and all of this BS. When do we flat out put responsibility on the people who do wrong instead of blaming society??

  65. joteri says: Jun 28, 2013 9:24 AM

    Bill Belichik is the most overrated coach in the history of sports. He would have ZERO super bowls without Tom Brady.

  66. chi01town says: Jun 28, 2013 9:24 AM

    Belicheck did what he always do. fine good players at the positions he need and plug them in his system. Belicheck dont care about doing background checks. He cares about winning Superbowls and he is willing to cheat just like he done before

  67. SAV says: Jun 28, 2013 9:29 AM

    Face facts: Belichek was desperate for TE`s because Brady can’t throw an accurate deep ball and can’t buy time with his feet. Randy Moss made him look good, but any other WR other then him Calvin Johnson would be a waste because Brady is trash beyond 20 yards. That’s why pats have a multitude of short targets and have been obsessed with getting two good TE s for years. Brady strengths: accuracy with 15 yards, going through progressions, reading defenses. Brady weaknesses: deep passing accuracy, poor under pressure

    Same skill set as p. Manning.

  68. ridingwithnohandlebars says: Jun 28, 2013 9:30 AM

    The Patriots decided he was worth taking a chance and it did not end well.

  69. sschmiggles says: Jun 28, 2013 9:33 AM

    > I think the teams that had AH removed from their draft boards altogether

    $100 says there isn’t a team in the NFL that had Hernandez completely off their draft board.

    And no, the Patriots aren’t being given special treatment.

    The Browns aren’t getting fined for signing an attempted murderer. The Steelers weren’t fined for Roethlisberger. The Ravens weren’t fined for Ray Lewis. People are unbelievably delusional when it comes to the Pats.

    The real truth is, if this were any other team, none of you would be trying to blame ownership or management for murder.

  70. beerndrums says: Jun 28, 2013 9:36 AM

    It’s fun to blame the Patriots because of their arrogance
    I’m surprised they’re hasn’t been any comments on here saying ”Every team has a gang banger playing for them”…just like they said about spygate..every team does it

  71. greyhawk9 says: Jun 28, 2013 9:38 AM

    impossible to know for sure but the facts that were known at the time of the draft were that he lived in an area overwhelmed by latino gangs and had numerous gang ties (member) drugs …anger issues no respect for authority ….hmmmm. every team passed on him for round after round so im sure plenty of telling info was available…sometimes the desire to win outweighs logic. sometimes that can blow up in your face

  72. fc187 says: Jun 28, 2013 9:44 AM

    No one could have seen this coming. From the actions of Gronk I was thinking that he was the problem child of the two.

  73. azarkhan says: Jun 28, 2013 9:49 AM

    Patriot haters are like LeBron James haters–irrational, stupid, and not changing anytime soon.

  74. FoozieGrooler says: Jun 28, 2013 9:50 AM

    joteri says:

    “..Bill Belichik is the most overrated coach in the history of sports. He would have ZERO super bowls without Tom Brady…”

    You mean Adam Vinatieri don’t you?
    All 3 of their SB’s were won by a FG, and they haven’t won another since they cut him, but Vinatieri went on to win another with the Colts after they cut him…

  75. craigmaitland says: Jun 28, 2013 9:51 AM

    Sure, but can we stop pumping the Patriots tires every time they bring a scumbag type player in? Every time they sign a Chad Johnson or draft an Aaron Hernandez the media goes out of its way too talk about how such a great fit it will be and blah blah blah… Stop the nonsense.

  76. rolltide510 says: Jun 28, 2013 9:51 AM

    Important to remember that prior to this, “character risk” meant teams feared a player might be smoking dope in between strip club visits.

    I don’t think any scouting reports on Hernandez read like “Questionable work ethic. Sometimes jogs through routes. Tends to rent cars and murder folks. Needs to improve blocking”.

  77. rolltide510 says: Jun 28, 2013 9:52 AM

    “azarkhan says:
    Jun 28, 2013 9:49 AM
    Patriot haters are like LeBron James haters–irrational, stupid, and not changing anytime soon.”

    As a Patriot hater, I’ll co-sign here. I don’t pretend to have a good reason for it.

  78. chemical360 says: Jun 28, 2013 9:53 AM

    I am sorry but some of you people are morons. Fine Kraft for what? Because one of his players that is supposed to be an adult, that is supposed to carry himself professionally, that was supposed to be a decent human being turned out to be a homicidal maniac?

    Sure, perhaps he fell to number 4 because of what was at the time, conjecture. There was no proof that he was a murderous animal when he was drafted. No criminal record that we know of.

    His college coach and his mother gave press interviews in 2009 saying that he was a changed kid, that he was back to the “old Aaron” as they put it. His mom saying: “I have my Aaron back.”

    So given the fact that he had trouble in his youth, BEFORE college, Kraft and BB are supposed to be fortune tellers and see that as soon as they sign him to a long term deal he was going to go and kill 3 people? Give me a break.

    Forgetting for a moment that our society is based on innocent until proven guilty and you people are already hanging him. (I am not oblivious to the reported facts, all the evidence says he is a murderous scum bag). But I implore everyone to leave that to people that are much smarter and more qualified than any of us to judge and punish him accordingly.

    But blaming the organization? Absurd, ludicrous, insanity. I will even take this one step further. It was the Ravens fault either nor were the Panthers to blame that their players are dirt bags.

    Nothing ceases to amaze me anymore. We are so quick to blame and point fingers with little or no understanding of the situation.

  79. holleyreginald says: Jun 28, 2013 9:54 AM

    I think its fair. Of course, no signs pointed to murder. But some strong signs were shown. You suppose to leave guys like this to The Raiders and Bengals, teams like that. They took a chance and got burned. Of course, this is not going away anytime time soon. Eventually, we all will move on from this.

  80. azarkhan says: Jun 28, 2013 9:57 AM

    joteri says:

    “..Bill Belichik is the most overrated coach in the history of sports. He would have ZERO super bowls without Tom Brady…”
    —–

    Bill Walsh is the most overrated coach in the history of sports. He would have ZERO super bowls without Joe Montana…

    Vince Lombardi is the most overrated coach in the history of sports. He would have ZERO super bowls without Bart Starr…

    Joteri, Let me know when you start to feel silly.

  81. Spencer says: Jun 28, 2013 10:03 AM

    The Patriots took the risk and other teams would have done the same – but there were a few teams that had the good sense to remove Hernandez from their boards. Remember that. There needs to be higher standards in the NFL going forward. Yes, it’s impossible to predict what might happen but Hernandez fell in the draft for a reason. Ignoring the red flags can have tragic results.

  82. bluebongzilla says: Jun 28, 2013 10:08 AM

    Just like they ignored warning signs regarding Spygate, they ignored warning signs about this guy that led to many teams completely removing him from their draft boards. It may be a pattern. That being that their entire leadership core seems devoid of character.

  83. supaman900s says: Jun 28, 2013 10:08 AM

    Does anyone remember when the Broncos used a (iirc) 3rd round pick on Maurice Clerret? So “risk” vs. reward players will continue to be drafted.

  84. donl517 says: Jun 28, 2013 10:10 AM

    Sure is quiet in Detroit! Go Lions!

  85. jeremycrowhurst says: Jun 28, 2013 10:16 AM

    azarkhan says: Jun 28, 2013 9:57 AM

    joteri says:

    “..Bill Belichik is the most overrated coach in the history of sports. He would have ZERO super bowls without Tom Brady…”
    —–

    Bill Walsh is the most overrated coach in the history of sports. He would have ZERO super bowls without Joe Montana…

    Vince Lombardi is the most overrated coach in the history of sports. He would have ZERO super bowls without Bart Starr…

    Joteri, Let me know when you start to feel silly.

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    Bill Walsh found Joe Montana, had him pegged as his guy before the draft. Lombardi won with his ground game and defense. But Brady basically fell into Belichick’s lap. They were looking at Brady and Tim Rattay, and the pick was basically a coin toss. So I don’t think Joteri’s point is too out there.

  86. jeremycrowhurst says: Jun 28, 2013 10:18 AM

    For what it’s worth, the $41M extension was as much about Wes Welker, who they were in the middle of negotiations with at the time, as it was about AH.

    Kind of all makes the decision look that much worth at this point….

  87. jeremycrowhurst says: Jun 28, 2013 10:19 AM

    “Worse”, that is.

  88. johnster67 says: Jun 28, 2013 10:23 AM

    Any player that excels at Football is a risk. You don’t get to this level without being ruthless. Especially as a tight end. That said, you would think once you get to the top, you would be smart enough to realize everyone is trying to knock you down, so keep your nose clean.

  89. flipadelphia says: Jun 28, 2013 10:32 AM

    Why not?

    Nobody has a problem criticizing the Lions. This site was filled up with endless posts about how Lions management should have known that Fairley, Leshoure and others had poor character.

    Not to mention the “Dirtiest Player” Suh…who I think had 1 or 2 penalties last year, that you guys constantly harp on.

  90. tedmurph says: Jun 28, 2013 10:37 AM

    I don’t blame the Pats for taking a chance on 1rst rnd talent in the middle of the 4th rnd. They’re a good team, and if it didn’t work out they coud cut him loose and waste a mid- rnd drarf pick.

    They absolutely dropped the ball on his extension. Now they have to eat somewhere between 9.3 and 15 million, along with the corresponding cap hit. No, you can’t predict murder, and AH obviously sold them a bill of goods, but you’ve got to do due diligence when handing out that kind of money. They gave this guy an extension after the 2nd yr of his rookie contract, so they could save money before he got close to FA. They have their own security personnel. They could have hired me to follow him around for a wk and found out he was still hanging out in the wrong places, at bad times, with a bad element. They couldn’t find out about the face shooting and waited? They couldn’t find the picture on TMZ of him holding a .45 Glock when he’s 19?,etc, etc. Someone should be held accountable for this gaffe, maybe even BB.

  91. pinion8ted says: Jun 28, 2013 10:48 AM

    in the case of Hernandez, Miller thinks a first-degree murder charge is something no one could have seen coming
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    Right … because it’s not like he posed for a picture holding a Glock while covered in tat’s, at age 19.

    Right?

    I’m a Pat’s fan, but it sure looks like someone in New England’s security department really was asleep at the switch here, with this guy.

  92. patriotenvy says: Jun 28, 2013 10:54 AM

    All criticism of Patriots is unfair. Patriots fans have gotten used to it.

  93. CKL says: Jun 28, 2013 11:10 AM

    I think it’s definitely fair to question at times who BB trusts. He trusted McDaniels over Daboll on Chad Jackson. That turned out well (not). He trusted McDaniels on Lloyd (ditto). He trusts Urban Meyer…that’s not working out so well either. He trusts his own judgment on Ocho’s football ability over Marvin Lewis who thought BB wasn’t dumb enough to trade for Ocho. Boy was BB wrong there too. One thing I’ll give him is he doesn’t swallow up Saban players like I would expect and a lot of them turn out to have issues in the NFL too. Hey BB, more research, less trust please.

  94. hedleykow says: Jun 28, 2013 11:19 AM

    “NFL security chief: Criticizing Patriots is 20/20 hindsight”
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    Ok, it’s 20/20 hindsight. Now can we please get back to the criticisms.

  95. billsfan1 says: Jun 28, 2013 11:23 AM

    If any teams fans want to see the Pats collapse, its us Bills fans. That being said, in no way shape or form, could the Pats be blamed for drafting this kid. Someone above posted that he wouldn’t have gone undrafted, andhe was correct.
    If this had been an impending lifetime ban due to drug use, then you could blame them- but who in Gods green earth would ever have thought murder (multiple murder?). Its clear that AH was living almost a double life.
    I want the Pats to fail big time, but not at the cost of somebody (or some people’s) lives. This was a selfish individual who didn’t give a rats behind about others including his child and fiancée.
    as a football fan and human being, I say good riddance, the world is better off without you AH..

  96. u4iadman says: Jun 28, 2013 11:25 AM

    Well, Pats organization have a history of being caught for cheating…so no 20/20 needed here.

  97. tedmurph says: Jun 28, 2013 11:41 AM

    Chad Jackson is completely on BB and his trust for UMeyer(Cunningham/semi-bust,PED susp,Spikes/PED, sex tape, Hernandez). All the scouts hated CJ, including Daboll, and BB overruled them. McDaniels was the QB coach at the time. The Pats traded their 2nd and a 3rd to take CJ, while GB took Jennings. Not only was CJ a bust here, he couldn’t stick anywhere else in the league. Trusted Meyer instead of his draft board. Calm your agenda against McDaniels CKL, He’s gonna be the next HC of NEP

  98. skarfacci says: Jun 28, 2013 11:43 AM

    I love how people are Tebow in with Hernandez. Last I checked he has never been arrested for a thing. He doesn’t drink. He’s never even gotten a speeding ticket. But he’s mentioned in the same breadth as Moss, Ochocinco & Hernandez. Whatever! People need to check themselves…seriously.

  99. witchrunner says: Jun 28, 2013 12:02 PM

    Actually, it never dawned on me to blame the Pats or Belichick for Hernandez. The fact is that nobody has a better reputation for keeping his players in line than Bill. Obviously, some coaches are better at it than others. But, that merely applies to whether a coach can keep a player from being a destructive force to the team cohesiveness. It has nothing to do with a player going out and killing. I’d never blame any coach or team for a player going bad like this.

  100. relggigeht says: Jun 28, 2013 12:04 PM

    Hernandez may be a punk and killer. But, he is (was) many times over a better NFL football player than Tebow. I hope Pats fans don’t actually believe Timmy is going to help take them to the “Promised Land”. Both, the Broncos and the Jets made that silly assumption as well.

  101. mbljets says: Jun 28, 2013 12:06 PM

    Just don’t get this love affair MBA sports talk has with the patriots. If this happened to a jets player florio would be screaming circus. In fact he did with Goodson while goodson will probably make out ok on his charges. The fact of the matter is the patriots while maybe not knowing they had a murderer should have known or did know they they had a guy that had associations with gang members.

  102. j0esixpack says: Jun 28, 2013 12:07 PM

    The Patriots haters out there actually think that the Patriots gave him a new contract BECAUSE they knew he was a potential murderer.

    That makes about as much sense as asserting the 2001-2004 Super Bowls are tainted because they broke a 2006 rule in 2007.

  103. whatjusthapped says: Jun 28, 2013 12:10 PM

    joteri says:
    Jun 28, 2013 9:24 AM
    Bill Belichik is the most overrated coach in the history of sports. He would have ZERO super bowls without Tom Brady.

    (and Matt Walsh and the video tapes)

    There, I amended it for you.

  104. hehateme2 says: Jun 28, 2013 12:30 PM

    I’ve NEVER seen a franchise so coddled as the patriots.
    People must have short memory as to when they were the doormat of the AFC East.

    Cycles are coming round again.

  105. mbljets says: Jun 28, 2013 12:30 PM

    The Super Bowls are tainted. They were filming the other teams practices. Nfl covers it up as well by destroying the tapes.

  106. skleech22 says: Jun 28, 2013 12:44 PM

    Criticizing the Patriots is 20/20! Robert Kraft also just contributed to my sons college fund,so I had to say that! Public image is everything to Bobby! !

  107. sactogary says: Jun 28, 2013 1:08 PM

    relggigeht says:Jun 28, 2013 12:04 PM

    Hernandez may be a punk and killer. But, he is (was) many times over a better NFL football player than Tebow. I hope Pats fans don’t actually believe Timmy is going to help take them to the “Promised Land”. Both, the Broncos and the Jets made that silly assumption as well.
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    Yeah. Just because he’s 9-2 as a starter when the opponent scores less than forty points doesn’t mean he knows what he’s doing.

  108. giantssb42champs says: Jun 28, 2013 1:09 PM

    I agree. Pats totally can’t be blamed. Also, Belechick had no prior documented videotaping history before they brought him in either.

  109. thestrategyexpert says: Jun 28, 2013 1:22 PM

    But we do agree that the Patriots still failed on their Hernandez decisions right?

    That’s all I care about establishing is blasting the decision to give him that huge pay raise instead of trading him like I thought they should have done. That was a foresight decision for me. He would have been good trade bait and then they could have done something better than that 2 TE system that wasn’t as important as other needs they had.

    They could have won an extra championship if they did it my way.

  110. citizenstrange says: Jun 28, 2013 1:35 PM

    In the Patriots’ defense though Tedy Bruschi really tore Ochocinco a new one for innocently tweeting that the Patriots’ offense was “awesome.”

  111. Grulks says: Jun 28, 2013 1:50 PM

    BS.

    I don’t think the Pats should be blamed for this, as some people have suggested. But to say that no one could have forseen (or at least been concerned it was a possibility) AH’s involvement in a murder is ignorant, given the (pre draft) noted ties to gangs, gang style tats, multiple admitted failed drug test at Florida, and a complete lack of parental guidance. What, did they think throwing millions at a Kid with no discipline and structure was suddenly going to make his past go away??

    Look, the Pats took a calculated risk in the 4th round on a guy who was arguably the best predraft ranked TE, and it back fired. But given his extremely checkered past, I just don’t see how anyone couldnt have considered the possibility that someone with so many danger signs wasnt eventually going to snap.

  112. Ridley Me This says: Jun 28, 2013 2:06 PM

    oh you guys, I know you don’t mean it so its ok.

  113. Ridley Me This says: Jun 28, 2013 2:10 PM

    hehateme2, are you made because the team you root for is still a doormat?

    Just remember Patriot haters, everytime you write a comment hating on the Patriots it just reminds us Patriot fans how great our team is.

    Keep up the good works guys, we all know how awesome the Patriots are, but without you haters constantly spewing hate how would the rest of the internet?

  114. witchrunner says: Jun 28, 2013 2:39 PM

    Hate is just another word for jealousy. Belichick is hated for one reason only. And that is that he bringing his success to whatever team the hater is routing for. Kinda like the trash talking the players do. They don’t waste their breaths on the bad players because they’re going to beat them anyway. It’s the good ones they try to mess with. What’s amazing is that the players all know it’s a psych game, so why any of them get mad is beyond me. Well, it’s just that they are jealous that the other guy got to them and they didn’t get to the other guy.

  115. ranger764 says: Jun 28, 2013 2:59 PM

    I still want to know how Hernandez could shoot a guy in the face and not be held accountable by the team, the league or the law.
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    Because the guy told the police he didn’t know who shot him. Then turned up 4 months later with a civil suit against Hernandez.

  116. db105 says: Jun 28, 2013 3:49 PM

    Hernandez was drafted in the 4th round when he had 1st or 2nd round talent. This means all 32 teams passed on him multiple times. Considering his football skills it was highly unlikely he would’ve been undrafted. Although the Pats got burned with the signing bonus of the contract extension they did get good value for 3 seasons as Hernandez wasn’t paid 1st or 2nd round salary. Smarter and more sucessful people, companies, and organizations make better decisions over long run.
    It’s easy to 2nd guess after the fact than to make a prediction before something happens. There wasn’t any public info leading anyone to believe that AH had a strong possibility of doing what he is being accused of doing. As a Pats hater I hope this will contribute to their demise but it’s unlikely as they’ve proven over the past 12 years that they are better managed than most of the teams.

  117. prijak1 says: Jun 28, 2013 6:55 PM

    The Patriots cut him , enough said !

  118. prijak1 says: Jun 28, 2013 6:57 PM

    Eveyone needs to stop talking about the Patriots drafting Hernandez. To blame the Patriots organizaation, Robert Kraft or Bill Belichick is the most asinine thing that has come up in this horrible situation. No team’s management has to babysit it’s players and hold their hands 24/7. These men are supposed to be adults. To treat them any different would be a slap in the face to a majority of them. By all appearances, AH was turning his life around. Who knew this was going to happen?? To criticize BB or RK is completely wrong. These men try to give troubled players a chance to shine with their talents and give them a reason to become productive members of society. They also do their best to take away the media’s ability to hound thier players.

    Aaron Hernandez is a monster. He’s ruined a number of people’s lives and he needs to pay dearly for that. He’s a disgrace to his family, his former team and to all of New England. This is in no way the fault of the Patriots organization.

  119. swagger52 says: Jul 5, 2013 4:15 PM

    So TRUE…

    Any other franchise except the Patriots, Hernandez problems would have been well publicsized and the Patriots would have been criticized for every misstep. 3 Serial Killer murders later, nothing wrong with the Patriots, this is the first infraction. This is NOT the first infraction, it is just the first that is not HIDDEN from the public because it is the Patriots. If this were the Ravens, their player would be so scrutinized that the Referees would have the flag by the ready for every infraction. Check the tape…Hernandez boiling over at the end of the play…I guarantee was NOT called.

    Suggs was right..Different rules, different standards for the Patriots.

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