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Gregg Williams finally gets sued over bounties

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When the NFL first disclosed that a bounty program had been implemented and maintained by former Saints defensive coordinator Greg Williams, it was widely assumed that multiple lawsuits would be filed in connection with the program that gave cash incentives to players who inflicted injury on opponents.

While some of the concussion lawsuits had cited the bounty program, Williams had not directly been sued by any player who allegedly was injured by a bounty.

Via Tulane sports law professor Gabe Feldman, former NFL linebacker Barrett Green has sued the Redskins, Williams, and tight end Robert Royal for a knee injury Green suffered in 2004, when Green played for the Giants.

Per Feldman, the lawsuit alleges that “Redskins coaches directed their players to disregard criminal and civil laws, as well as NFL rules, to intentionally injure opponents.”  Green also contends that he was “suspicious” Royal may have specifically targeted Green.

Joe Gibbs served as head coach of the Redskins in 2004, and Williams was the defensive coordinator.  Green contends that Royal played defense at times, which would have brought him under the umbrella of Gregg Willliams.

Still, absent evidence that the Redskins had a bounty program that rewarded offensive players for knocking defensive opponents out of games, it will be hard to prove that Royal had any reason to try to injure Green — apart from the obvious but largely unspoken incentive to win what amounts to a game of attrition.

After the league announced the discovery of a bounty program with the Saints, players coached elsewhere by Williams claimed that Williams used a bounty system in places other than New Orleans.  The NFL opted not to investigate the use of bounties by other teams that employed Williams, possibly because the NFL realized that it was a much broader cultural reality of NFL football.

In our view, the NFL had no desire to venture down that rabbit hole, because the NFL would have realized that imposing crippling punishment on the Saints for doing what many other teams had done would have been grossly unfair.  As former Commissioner Paul Tagliabue reasoned in the decision striking down the suspensions of various Saints players, culture change should happen more gradually, with all offenders having a chance to cease the now-frowned-upon practice before anyone is disciplined for it.

Now, the Green lawsuit could drag the NFL into that rabbit hole, with players and coaches inevitably questioned regarding the extent to which bounties were used in Washington, the Giants, the Saints, and perhaps other teams.

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47 Responses to “Gregg Williams finally gets sued over bounties”
  1. whatnojets says: Jul 8, 2013 3:51 PM

    Isn’t this football? Or have they changed it to KCL , “Knitting and Crocheting League”??

  2. skinsfanwill says: Jul 8, 2013 3:52 PM

    This bum linebacker is actually suing because he got hit and hurt by a tight end? What is football coming to? That should be an embarrassment, not evidence.

  3. unbiasfan says: Jul 8, 2013 3:54 PM

    Cheaters never prosper…unless you’re the 2009 New Orleans Saints

  4. sarcasm says: Jul 8, 2013 3:58 PM

    Williams should have never been reinstated. He doesn’t deserve to be around the game of football.

    At any level!

  5. mrbigass says: Jul 8, 2013 3:59 PM

    I am suing the NFL because as I got up to go to the kitchen for a sandwich (while watching an NFL game) I caught my big toenail on the rug and it really hurt.

    Subsequently I am now fearful of leaving an NFL game to get a sandwich (or any consumables) and it has ruined my gameday experience. Had they not provided such an exciting game I would have not tried to rush to the kitchen (so as not to miss any of the action) thereby injuring my big toenail and causing said fear, agitation and general anxiety.

    My lawyer will contact your lawyer……..

  6. basballguy says: Jul 8, 2013 4:01 PM

    Money Grab

  7. unbiasfan says: Jul 8, 2013 4:05 PM

    Vikings should have been in the Superbowl in 2009 but they were cheated out by the New Orleans Bounty Saints

  8. thegreatgabbert says: Jul 8, 2013 4:07 PM

    At this time Gregg wishes he had adopted the personal style of a trial lawyer rather than a visiting scholar of academia.

  9. tommysaint1 says: Jul 8, 2013 4:08 PM

    So if he wins this lawsuit then the skins had a bounty program right?

    Does Goodell levy the same penalties that he did against the Saints?

    Or do bounties really not matter and do exist all over the league but you were just trying to look good for concussion lawsuits?

    Any consistency coming from this?

  10. kingcarlbanks says: Jul 8, 2013 4:10 PM

    The Giants should be suing Barrett Green for impersonation of a linebacker..

  11. thejohnsmith1122 says: Jul 8, 2013 4:10 PM

    Cry me a river. Now every ex-player whoever played againt Willam’s defense is going to sue him.

    Just man up and say face the facts that regardless if money was involved or not, football players go out there to hit hard hoping to knockout someone, anyone on the opposing team. Money just adds a little more ‘fun factor’ to it.

  12. whatnojets says: Jul 8, 2013 4:11 PM

    I am sing the NFL for “mental disorders and anguish”” caused by watching New York Jets football games between the months of September through December from 1963 to 2012

  13. whatnojets says: Jul 8, 2013 4:11 PM

    I am suing the NFL for “mental disorders and anguish”” caused by watching New York Jets football games between the months of September through December from 1963 to 2012

  14. sb44champs says: Jul 8, 2013 4:12 PM

    Verybiasfan says:
    Vikings should have been in the Superbowl in 2009 but they were cheated out by the New Orleans Bounty Saints
    ==========================
    Yeah, the 5 turnovers had nothing to do with it lol

  15. twilson962 says: Jul 8, 2013 4:13 PM

    Video please

  16. redeemerac says: Jul 8, 2013 4:15 PM

    This looks like nothing more than someone finding whatever means necessary to get a pay day.

  17. jfanale says: Jul 8, 2013 4:15 PM

    Obviously this guy is broke and blames everyone else for his problems. No one forced you to play football, ASS CLOWN! BTW- Robert Royal was a tight end; Gregg Williams never coached him.

  18. wayupsouth says: Jul 8, 2013 4:15 PM

    Tommysaint1- Williams is back in the league already, which means the suspensions were an act. This stuff has been going on for years. About six minutes ago, I posted a Youtube video to this page from 1996, an ESPN report on the Green Bay Packers smash for cash program. It got taken down for some reason, but I would invite anyone to look it up on Youtube.

  19. unbiasfan says: Jul 8, 2013 4:19 PM

    Vikings are the best franchise in NFL history

  20. broncobrewer says: Jul 8, 2013 4:19 PM

    This is just dumb. This guy spent all his money now he’s looking for more. Is he also part of the concussion lawsuit?

  21. mattw70 says: Jul 8, 2013 4:23 PM

    “Green contends that Royal played defense at times, which would have brought him under the umbrella of Gregg Willliams.”

    I don’t remember Royal getting any plays on defense.He rarely played on offense.

  22. noring4youstill says: Jul 8, 2013 4:26 PM

    Oh my God. You Vikings fans will never surprise me and stop whining. You had a chance to win and didn’t. The Saints won and went on to win the Super Bowl. Something that your franchise had tried to do 4 previous times. Now go to your empty trophy case and get the box of Kleenex out. You bunch of pansies.

  23. n0hopeleft says: Jul 8, 2013 4:29 PM

    No surprise that the Redskins are named in this one. We’re talking about a franchise that honors grown men dressed up in women’s clothing. Shocker.

    Another non-surprise?
    LogicailVoiceSays is one of those “men”.

  24. tacowrecker says: Jul 8, 2013 4:30 PM

    Yeah this seems like a shameless money grab to me….especially the way he’s roped Royal into the lawsuit because he was “suspicious” of him…Makes you wonder if maybe Royal banged his wife or something and that’s what he’s really mad about

  25. aintasinner says: Jul 8, 2013 4:34 PM

    unbiasfan, your screen name is definitely a misnomer. You are definitely biased against the Saints. The Vikings lost because Brett Favre threw an ill-advised pass across his body that was intercepted. The Saints acknowledged having a pay for performance program not a bounty program and Goodell, in spite of claiming he had 50,000 pages of “proof” that the Saints ran a bounty program, never was able to produce even one page of evidence that proved his accusations, thus the reversal of the suspensions. Even Brett Favre has come forward to say that he did not feel like the target of a bounty program when he played against the Saints in the NFCCG. So deal with it. The Saints won, the Vikings were eliminated and a Saints bounty program was never proven.

  26. rpkllc says: Jul 8, 2013 4:35 PM

    Come on Florio. Put your lawyer cap on and tell us about the statute of limitations on this one.

  27. groundhoggday says: Jul 8, 2013 4:43 PM

    This is more a case of – maybe they will pay me what their lawyer fees would be and settle before it gets public. Just a money grab and obviously Green doesn’t care… figures well any money is good money…. geesh….

  28. fancylanguage says: Jul 8, 2013 4:46 PM

    “After the league announced the discovery of a bounty program with the Saints, players coached elsewhere by Williams claimed that Williams used a bounty system in places other than New Orleans. The NFL opted not to investigate the use of bounties by other teams that employed Williams, possibly because the NFL realized that it was a much broader cultural reality of NFL football.”

    But the league went ahead and royally screwed the Saints anyway.

  29. gb4mn0 says: Jul 8, 2013 4:48 PM

    unbiasfan says:
    Jul 8, 2013 4:05 PM
    Vikings should have been in the Superbowl in 2009 but they were cheated out by the New Orleans Bounty Saints

    —————————————–
    More evidence of endemic delusional disorder in the land of 10k trailer park cesspools. What a bunch of cry babies. And by the way dumbiasfan, the game was in 2010…………fool!

  30. baddegg says: Jul 8, 2013 4:50 PM

    Plus Green is claiming that his purse was smudged up in the melee…

  31. mrlaloosh says: Jul 8, 2013 4:52 PM

    I’m flabbergasted! I need an Explanation! In sure ago dell had a personal vendetta against the Saints because Sean Payton probably told him to go F himself. Ginger a roger got his revenge. He is the most powerful dictator in sports. For now.

  32. skippynj says: Jul 8, 2013 4:55 PM

    Viking fans still whining about this? Wow. You were merely a tiny bump in the road on the way to the Saints being crowned the best team in the NFL.
    ps-your star rb should keep his ignorant mouth shut. No one cares what that uneducated dope thinks about social issues. HABD!

  33. boobsmcgoo says: Jul 8, 2013 4:58 PM

    unbiasfan says:
    Jul 8, 2013 4:05 PM
    Vikings should have been in the Superbowl in 2009 but they were cheated out by the New Orleans Bounty Saints

     ——–

    Childress and Favre cheated the Vikings out of that game. They would have lost anyway, just like the previous 4 times. Waaaaaaaaaah!

  34. melikefootball says: Jul 8, 2013 5:32 PM

    Good for them all but Godel will probably jump in front of the suits and say can’t do. Godel has been a great provider for the cheats of the NFL.

  35. MasMacho says: Jul 8, 2013 5:35 PM

    Perhaps this will force some evidence into the public via the discovery process that we can read rather than endlessly debating things that nobody has seen.

  36. docboss says: Jul 8, 2013 6:25 PM

    This could reflect poorly on attorneys. Lol

  37. timbuttrum says: Jul 8, 2013 8:34 PM

    “Cheaters never prosper…unless you’re the 2009 New Orleans Saints”

    Or Bill Belicheck

  38. hifive123 says: Jul 8, 2013 9:55 PM

    Sorry, but he doesn’t have a leg to stand on.

  39. win1soon says: Jul 8, 2013 9:58 PM

    Can Bills fans file lawsuits against him for prentending he was the coach in Buffalo for a few years!

  40. dlr4skins says: Jul 8, 2013 10:39 PM

    I assure you that Joe Gibbs would not have allowed this. Coach Gibbs can not say a sentence without mentioned religion.

    Joe Gibbs is not Bill Billicheat or Sean Paymeton!

  41. patsbrat says: Jul 8, 2013 11:32 PM

    whatnojets says: Jul 8, 2013 4:11 PM

    I am suing the NFL for “mental disorders and anguish”” caused by watching New York Jets football games between the months of September through December from 1963 to 2012

    Whatnojets, this post earns my respect.

  42. caliangel08 says: Jul 9, 2013 1:06 AM

    Love it

    Now bring on other players who were part of a bounty systems who were hurt as a result . The players who went to administer a hit and hurt themselves instead .

    I want to see the league get buried in this for NOT seeing if other teams besides the Saints , had a system going .

  43. jedidev says: Jul 9, 2013 9:36 AM

    If only the Saints had not decided to play football against the Vikings in 2010. Vikings would have advanced to the Superbowl and Peyton would have TWO rings.

  44. steelerben says: Jul 9, 2013 11:39 AM

    unbiasfan says:
    Jul 8, 2013 4:05 PM
    Vikings should have been in the Superbowl in 2009 but they were cheated out by the New Orleans Bounty Saints

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I know, right! It was way out of character for Farve to throw an interception. It had to be the bounties.

  45. wfmulder says: Jul 9, 2013 4:21 PM

    “In our view, the NFL had no desire to venture down that rabbit hole, because the NFL would have realized that imposing crippling punishment on the Saints for doing what many other teams had done would have been grossly unfair.”

    Hence why I want this to proceed, no matter how trivial it is. Then I WILL want an explanation from the NFL and every BONEHEAD commentator who painted the Saints as cheaters.

    Crow only tastes good when you’re feeding it to someone else. Open up and get ready for your mouth full.

  46. wyntyrmute says: Jul 16, 2013 1:22 PM

    The funny thing about this is that all the losers wanting to find an excuse to sue because of Williams had to go back to the Skins because no one ever got injured playing against the Saints.

    Soon the Bills will get sued as well. All because Goodell wanted to try and show he was tough on injuries (non-existent) in the case of the Saints and wanted to take Payton down a peg for telling him to mind his own business.

  47. djr151 says: Jul 26, 2013 1:00 PM

    unbiasfan says:Jul 8, 2013 3:54 PM

    Cheaters never prosper…unless you’re the 2009 New Orleans Saints

    As a Saints fan….Thank you Mr. Williams!

    Laughing out Loud …..Maniacally!

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