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London team would have at least one major in-season logistical challenge

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The possibility of moving a team to London raises plenty of potential problems.  Free agents won’t want to go there.  High first-round draft picks may decide to pull an Elway/Eli and force a trade.

Travel time, extended road trips, exchange rates, tax rates, language barriers.  The exercise could quickly become more trouble than it’s worth.

There’s another important in-season dynamic that someone smarter than me (that doesn’t really narrow it down very much) mentioned today during an off-the-record chat about the London logistics.

Every week, many teams bring in multiple players for tryouts.  These “Gong Show” sessions are used to fill immediate needs, and to keep a current database of information in the event a need arises in the future.

For example, if the punter tears an ACL on Sunday, eight or nine punters will show up on Tuesday.  Likewise, if the third-down back has a fumbling problem, other potential third-down backs will be brought to town.

Sometimes, the tryouts are done to simply send a message to the guy(s) who play the position at which the team is taking a closer look.  Or there’s a strategic element; Vikings G.M. Rick Spielman has said that, in the weeks before facing a left-footed punter, the Vikings would bring a left-footed punter to town for a tryout, to help the punt returners get used to the different spin of the ball.

For a team headquartered in London, good luck getting a bunch of street free agents to England on a moment’s notice.  If any of them have invitations to try out for a team in the U.S. that same day, chances are they’ll take their chances with the domestic opportunity instead.

The easy solution would be to have the players try out at the practice facility the London team would use when embarking on a three-or-four-week road trip to America.  But that means the team would have to keep front-office personnel in the U.S. location, away from the London headquarters.

And if the London team is preparing for a home game, it means that the coaching staff won’t have a chance to personally eyeball the prospects.

At some point, the various logistical challenges associated with having a full-time team in London will create a significant strategic disadvantage for the team based there.  To balance things out, the London team would need to get special treatment from the league — and if/when the London team becomes successful, other teams and their fans would argue that the London team is getting too much special treatment.

Thus, while it makes plenty of sense for the NFL to expand the international presence of the sport, moving a team to London could be a mistake that would disrupt the league’s current parity and potentially undermine the game’s overall integrity.

There’s a chance it would work out.  But the chance that it wouldn’t could be big enough to compel the NFL another way to market the game to people in other countries.

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  1. glazerh8er says: Jul 8, 2013 11:12 PM

    Florio, you have obviously never operated a hot dog stand.

  2. henryjones20 says: Jul 8, 2013 11:14 PM

    I can hardly wait til the jags move there.

  3. theduuuuuuuuuude says: Jul 8, 2013 11:19 PM

    As cliche as this sounds, the NFL is America’s game and it should (and will) stay that way. The NFL is a novelty in England and there are other more deserving American cities that should get a franchise before we ship one overseas.

  4. thekiller678 says: Jul 8, 2013 11:20 PM

    Putting a team in London is the stupidest idea the NFL has had in years. And that’s saying a lot.

  5. bennyb82 says: Jul 8, 2013 11:20 PM

    Pros and Cons of having a team in London:

    Pros: $
    Cons: Everything else

  6. bender4700 says: Jul 8, 2013 11:22 PM

    London: Worst idea the NFL has floated in YEARS.

    American Football does not equal Futbol.

    He wants it to be international, makes sense, but it’s ALREADY international. Mexico City, Toronto, or Vancouver makes more sense than London.

    Didn’t NFL Europe fail? Why is that?

  7. virg1969 says: Jul 8, 2013 11:23 PM

    Language barriers? In London? I think they will be able to get by.

  8. johnelwayishorsefaced says: Jul 8, 2013 11:25 PM

    Thank you for reminding us what a d bag Elway was/is. It seems like a lot of people have forgotten.

  9. nyyjetsknicks says: Jul 8, 2013 11:25 PM

    We have blackouts all over the county every weekend, no way a London team happens. I’m not even sure a Super Bowl there will happen. Going to get a bunch of corporate executives to fly internationally for a weekend? Not very likely.

  10. forty9asty says: Jul 8, 2013 11:25 PM

    If/when a London based team emerges (and it seems the NFL is trying to do absolutely everything in its power to make it a reality), the NFL should fund to bring back the Concorde supersonic jet, and probably have at least two of them, and use them solely to transport the London team to and fro, and likewise their opponents. I was lucky enough to fly on one of them before they were retired, and jet-lag was a non-issue. That would solve one of the myriad of logistical challenges…

  11. SparkyGump says: Jul 8, 2013 11:28 PM

    Goodell and his greedy horde of billionaires need to invest in a farm system similar to baseball’s before they try more expansion. The talent pool is getting mighty thin already. Moving into Canada or Mexico (if & when it gets safe) would make more sense.

  12. charlescub80 says: Jul 8, 2013 11:30 PM

    Couldn’t eyeball the competition? England doesn’t get face time, Skype, YouTube? No technology on thee old island?

  13. barbeaux says: Jul 8, 2013 11:37 PM

    Geez, it sounds like no businesses can go international.

  14. squared80 says: Jul 8, 2013 11:39 PM

    Nobody said their base of operations had to be in London. They could do their business here, and players could then be sent across the pond. Kind of like a satellite center. Pretty simple.

  15. frankdatank23 says: Jul 8, 2013 11:41 PM

    Goodell is going to spoil the league to the point another one could emerge and actually succeed. Let him start his own WFL full of European floppers, and we’ll keep American football they way we the fans prefer it. We’re the customers here. Not one of us is interested in a team moving to England.

  16. finfan87 says: Jul 8, 2013 11:43 PM

    I knew before clicking the link that it would be a reference to Channing Crowder. Honestly though, I think the people of London were just as surprised that what comes out of Channing Crowder’s mouth is considered to be English.

  17. irishking says: Jul 8, 2013 11:46 PM

    Forget about a London team. Simply out of the question.

  18. johnnyb216 says: Jul 8, 2013 11:56 PM

    I really don’t understand what is so important about putting an NFL franchise in Europe. American football is played by barely a handful of countries and the interest just isn’t there. Look at baseball and basketball. Two sports that are far more popular around the globe and not even they have a professional team overseas. The Nfl is soooo f’n stupid sometimes.

  19. al40110 says: Jul 8, 2013 11:57 PM

    Big mistake.

  20. joemontanaflaccid says: Jul 8, 2013 11:58 PM

    Keep American football teams in America!

  21. bizzyb559 says: Jul 9, 2013 12:00 AM

    Football is American and the NFL shouldn’t be so greedy. This is all about money. Frankly, they make enough and we have outsourced enough of America. Should this happen and they’ll have the superbowl moved overseas too as the NFL previously proposed. Absolutely against this.

  22. dtlb58 says: Jul 9, 2013 12:01 AM

    Thus, while it makes plenty of sense for the NFL to expand the international presence of the sport.

    Why does it make plenty of sense for the NFL to expand internationally?

    In fact it makes no sense at all, especially for all the reasons you stated above and so many more especially in London!
    I can’t even ever see them doing it to Canada because of the CFL and that would be the most reasonable logistical answer.

    Just stop it. The AFC is the American Football Conference for a reason.
    Leave it alone.

  23. butchhickory says: Jul 9, 2013 12:05 AM

    I think a bigger problem would be felons getting a passport.

  24. anarchopurplism says: Jul 9, 2013 12:10 AM

    PFT is Florio’s hot dog stand.

    Pass the mustard.

    D*amn I’m getting fat

  25. dnolan888 says: Jul 9, 2013 12:11 AM

    I know there are 30 teams between NYC and SD, but its the same flight time between NYC and London. With a jet these teams could be gone after breakfast and back by dinner with a thorough evaluation done.

  26. granadafan says: Jul 9, 2013 12:16 AM

    Goodell’s greed knows no bounds. This is the deluded fool who thought that football belongs in the Olympics.

  27. trevor123698 says: Jul 9, 2013 12:55 AM

    If I was able to force my way out I’d never live in that socialist stinkhole they call london. there is literally no worse place on earth. its full of illuminists. literally overflowing with secret societies.

  28. greenmeattruck says: Jul 9, 2013 12:58 AM

    After the NFL Europe failed miserably… let’s keep the NFL in America. The limmeys had their chance and the blew it.

    Go play some cricket or some footy, you crumpet-eating idiots!

  29. larrydavid7000 says: Jul 9, 2013 1:05 AM

    as a player in the NFL I would not play for a team overseas. main reason is the travel involved. HELL NO goddell.!!!

  30. mogogo1 says: Jul 9, 2013 1:07 AM

    Goodell continues to rewrite history. How popular was football in London when they last had it? The Monarchs folded up shop several years before NFL Europe was closed down. They even changed the name to England Monarchs before the final season. Reality isn’t nearly as rosy as old Roger paints it.

  31. shadowcell says: Jul 9, 2013 1:20 AM

    The need to give a London team special treatment to balance out its logistical disadvantages would just hasten the failure of the London NFL experiment anyway. It’s already an unpopular move; it would be moving into a place with no real American football culture to prop it up; and everyone else would resent it and its special treatment as the new, foreign kid on the block. It will immediately be defined as outside the circle of NFL teams, the ones that don’t get special handicapping from the league, regardless of what Goodell tries to do. And the fans of the London team wouldn’t like that, because they would inevitably feel ostracized from the league. It would be a terrible marriage from day one.

  32. 1standinches says: Jul 9, 2013 1:26 AM

    if they’re going to be that ignorant by putting a football team in London, why don’t you put a football team in Pakistan? Roger Goodell and the NFL organization is full of idiots!!

  33. JSpicoli says: Jul 9, 2013 1:29 AM

    This is the NFL jumping the shark.

  34. stevent92 says: Jul 9, 2013 1:29 AM

    It would be hilarious to see a team in London, only to watch them move to San Antonio or LA five years later. I would almost rather see it happen so we cam put the whole “Global NFL” vision in its rightful grave once and for all.

  35. thestrategyexpert says: Jul 9, 2013 1:30 AM

    Yeah but the NFL is lacking in integrity in its foundation all over the place. I wouldn’t recommend that they bother trying to expand internationally unless they first clean up the infrastructure of the game concerning the economics and the rulebook and other major areas that need a lot of refining and polishing.

    This sport has so many things it could still do to increase appeal domestically. Until they can figure out how to optimize the national market, then they shouldn’t be trying to tackle something much bigger than they are prepared for. There’s a reason why high school players don’t jump straight to the NFL; they haven’t grown up yet. Well the business of the NFL hasn’t matured to the proper level of ripeness. They have a lot of work to do and need to get to it.

  36. kzoo2cali says: Jul 9, 2013 1:36 AM

    I think it’s obvious that few fans would like an NFL team in London. I personally believe it’s the worst idea the league has ever had. Just move a team to Los Angeles already and call it a day.

  37. JSpicoli says: Jul 9, 2013 1:42 AM

    I will say it does distract us from the rule changes that are killing the game.

  38. commonsensedude says: Jul 9, 2013 1:44 AM

    And there is the whole challenge with the metric system thing. Try explaining to the fans over the PA system that the Jags only have 0.25 meters to go for a first down.

  39. richiesaurus310 says: Jul 9, 2013 1:55 AM

    I actually think Los Angeles, Toronto, London, and Mexico City in that order should and can be conquered by the NFL. But admittedly so I am in the minority in this.

  40. anonymousnevermindfishdeath says: Jul 9, 2013 1:58 AM

    I’d rather see a team in Canada or Mexico before Europe–NFL Europe failed–they don’t want it, it will be a curiosity at first, but because their team WILL suck, you won’t get anyone through the gate.

  41. ee00ee says: Jul 9, 2013 2:05 AM

    I think the idea of having a team there is stupid, beyond stupid. The first step to an international presence is to get a Canadian and perhaps Central/South American team. If they really are determined to push the European market they should do something like play 16 games a season there so each team is required to play once. That would help them gauge the level of interest, and likely scrap the whole idea.

  42. zeeman911 says: Jul 9, 2013 2:16 AM

    If they even had the Super Bowl in London, I would fear it would be a major terrorist target….I would hope not but something tells me those sick SOB’s would make that a priority..

  43. ironcitydonnieiris says: Jul 9, 2013 2:22 AM

    What time do they play the London games? I’m sure I’ve watched one, but I can’t remember the time slot.
    London is 6 hrs earlier than the east coast, right? A 7 pm start in London is a 1pm start EST right? 10AM start PST.
    My thought would be London series of 4 games, then the London Lollipops play San Diego for game 1 of a 4 week American series. I know they come over early that week, but 9 hours is a bit of time to reaclimate, right?
    Being east coast, my trips to Hawaii took me a few days to make it past 7pm Hawaiian time. And that’s 6 hours difference I think.
    London, Daytona Speedway, next up Death Valley or the USS Intrepid (watch out, that space shuttle has a strong goal line defense). Next year Nimrod Goodell will be trying to get a game on the MOON!

    Keep the game in the USA.

  44. alonestartexan says: Jul 9, 2013 3:24 AM

    Expand to Canada FIRST, and if it’s successful there, THEN maybe Europe.

  45. Savage Lizard says: Jul 9, 2013 3:58 AM

    “decide to pull an Elway/Eli and force a trade.”

    You mean decide they are special, and above all other players in NFL history who went through the draft and went to whoever picked them and worked to try to make those teams better? Elway and Manning, the two biggest crybabies in NFL history, only Elisha was worse because he had to have his daddy speak for him.

  46. paredskinwarrior1985 says: Jul 9, 2013 4:25 AM

    why does every one act like its further then a EAST COAST TO WEST COAST TRIP????? Its less time to fly from the east coast or mid america to England then it is from Seattle to NYC!!!!

    its not a big deal and they will fly no matter the flight time

    A NFL TEAM IN LONDON WILL HAPPEN EITHER AN EXPANSION TEAM OR A TEAM MOVING THERE!!!!! IT WILL BE AWESOME FOR THE GAME AND THE NFL!!!!

    it WILL CREATE A WHOLE NEW TALENT LEVEL OF PLAYERS AS YOUNGSTERS IN EUROPE WILL GROW UP PLAYING AMERICAN FOOTBALL!!!! Its gonna be great drafting European college stars or semi pro stars!!!

    I hope the the NFL also expands to Latin and South America as well as europe it would be a lot more popular there and have some great athletes!!! foreign superstar NFL players!!!!!

    Thee NFL should have an expansion in a couple years expanding 8 Teams!! As well as expanding the season to 20 games and 22 weeks!!! it would create a worldwide interest that will eventually over take soccer if the game doesn’t turn any more safe and sissy!!! China would pay a lot of money to the NFL for a team!!!!!

    i see it now NFL Expansion 2020! 20 games 22 weeks long each team has 2 bye weeks one being a week for every team while the NFL holds a NFL Olympics!!!!!
    Expand 8 Teams one in each division- – AFC – east – London, south -Puerto Rico, north – Toronto Canada , west – Los Angeles USA or Brazil or Beijing, China….. NFC – east – Paris France, south – Santiago, Chile, north – Moscow Russia or Ireland , west – Mexico city , mexico !!!!!!!
    That would be awesomeeee and would grow the league all over the world and would make it so fun to watch!!!
    The NFL would start to dominate the world after it would expand further in to Latin and South America and into Asia and Russia!

    of course greatly expand active rosters to 83 players BC of the bigger season. But with new tech, planes will be traveling at record times across the world by 2018 so its not far fetched!!! I wanna see the NFL and American football take over the world as well as become an Olympic sport!!!

    if lol a cheese ball sport like basketball can be an Olympic sport then American football can definitely once it expands!!

    a farm team system in the USA and across the world should be started again! the NFL should start 6-8 farm pro leagues paying little money but giving chances to people from across the world! 3-5 in the USA and Latin and south america and Canada and 3-4 leagues in Asia , Europe, Africa, and Russia!!!

    it would greatly benefit the NFL as well as create superstar players and great coaches from all nations as well as develop american football worldwide and even create new offensive and defensive systems!!!!

    I hope it happens it should and god know the NFL and the 32 teams have more then enough spare money to risk investing in it when the payback would be so great!!!!

    just some random ideas to grow the sport and benefit in the future. thank you for reading even if think I’m a idiot

  47. ilcattivo118 says: Jul 9, 2013 4:27 AM

    By having a team located outside of the US, at least the SuperBowl winners can then be deemed more accurately ‘World Champions’ as is not really the geographical case right now….

    You never know though folks… Gridiron might soon become an Olympic sport too, maybe on a smaller scale though to begin with (7 on 7)? As is the case with Basketball, my money would always be on the USA bagging the gold though… ha ha!

  48. laramsfan4ever says: Jul 9, 2013 4:27 AM

    Next up China , They have been buying up everything else in this country. I’m sure Goodell would have no problem negotiating a deal to send several teams over there. because its for the ” good of the league” .

  49. paredskinwarrior1985 says: Jul 9, 2013 4:42 AM

    why does every one act like its further flying to england if a team moves or the nfl expands there then a EAST COAST TO WEST COAST TRIP????? Its less time to fly from the east coast or mid america to England then it is from Seattle to NYC!!!!

    I hope the NFL puts an expansion team in London as well as ones in Canada, Latin america, South America, Europe Asia and Russia eventuall!! I would love to see the NFL grow globally and turn american football in to a modern day gladiators across the world!!

    its not a big deal and players will fly for a job and the right money no matter the flight time

    A NFL TEAM IN LONDON WILL HAPPEN EITHER AN EXPANSION TEAM OR A TEAM MOVING THERE!!!!! IT WILL BE AWESOME FOR THE GAME AND THE NFL!!!! Eventually maybe not for 20 years but it will. I hope sooner in like 5-7 years.

    it WILL CREATE A WHOLE NEW TALENT LEVEL OF PLAYERS AS YOUNGSTERS IN EUROPE , South america , asia latin america, canada, WILL GROW UP Watching and PLAYING AMERICAN FOOTBALL!!!! Its gonna be great seeing nfl teams thtat will finally be drafting college stars or semi pro stars from countries all over the world!!!

    I hope the the NFL also expands to Latin and South America as well as europe , russia, china, japan, asia , th middle east and africa!!! it would be a lot more popular in latin and south america as well as europe and russia and will produce have some great athletes and superstars and create good coaches!!! foreign superstar NFL players coaches and foreign created schemes!!!!! IT WILL BENEFIT THE FANS THE MOST BY THE NFL AND AMERICAN FOOTBALL EXPANDING GLOBALLY AND BECOMING AN OLYMPIC sport!!!!!

    Thee NFL should have an expansion in a couple years expanding 8 Teams!! As well as expanding the season to 20 games and 22 weeks!!! it would create a worldwide interest that will eventually over take soccer if the game doesn’t turn any more safe and sissy!!! China would pay a lot of money to the NFL for a team!!!!!

    i see it now NFL Expansion 2020! 20 games 22 weeks long each team has 2 bye weeks one being a week for every team while the NFL holds a NFL Olympics!!!!!
    Expand 8 Teams one in each division- – AFC – east – London, south -Puerto Rico, north – Toronto Canada , west – Los Angeles USA or Brazil or Beijing, China….. NFC – east – Paris France, south – Santiago, Chile, north – Moscow Russia or Ireland , west – Mexico city , mexico !!!!!!!
    That would be awesomeeee and would grow the league all over the world and would make it so fun to watch!!!
    The NFL would start to dominate the world after it would expand further in to Latin and South America and into Asia and Russia!

    of course greatly expand active rosters to 83 players BC of the bigger season. But with new tech, planes will be traveling at record times across the world by 2018 so its not far fetched!!! I wanna see the NFL and American football take over the world as well as become an Olympic sport!!!

    if lol a cheese ball sport like basketball can be an Olympic sport then American football can definitely once it expands!!

    a farm team system in the USA and across the world should be started again! the NFL should start 6-8 farm pro leagues paying little money but giving chances to people from across the world! 3-5 in the USA and Latin and south america and Canada and 3-4 leagues in Asia , Europe, Africa, and Russia!!!

    it would greatly benefit the NFL as well as create superstar players and great coaches from all nations as well as develop american football worldwide and even create new offensive and defensive systems!!!!

    I hope it happens it should and god know the NFL and the 32 teams have more then enough spare money to risk investing in it when the payback would be so great!!!!

    also WITH EXPANDING ROSTERS BY 30 PLAYERS THE SALARY CAP WOULD EXPAND GREATLY AS IT SHOULD BUT VETS AND YOUNGSTERS THAT WOULDNT BE GIVEN A CHANCE WOULD GET ONE AND THIS WOULD CREATE ALOT OF GREAT PLYERS THAT NEVER WOULD OF HAD THE CHANCE!!! PLUS WITH THE EXTRA ROOM PLAYERS ON THEIR LAST YEAR CAN RETIRE WITH THE TEAM THEY LOVE!!!

    THANKS FOR READING EVEN IF YOU THINK IDEAS ARE BAD BUT PASS THEM ON TO THE OWNERS AND GOODELL WINK WINK LOL

  50. tacowrecker says: Jul 9, 2013 4:49 AM

    I’d much rather see an NFL D-League similar to the MLB minors here in the states than see the NFL try another European fiasco. There are PLENTY of cities/states with NO NFL franchise (or one even close) that would support something like a Triple-A football team, especially if it was played during the spring or summer. And for anyone worried about the quality of the games, even the practice squad guys in the NFL are better than most collegiate players yet college games are exciting and well attended. If the NFL is looking for new revenue streams they need only look to the areas of the country with no pro football teams.

  51. paredskinwarrior1985 says: Jul 9, 2013 4:51 AM

    a team in London is going to happen regardless of what one of these Republicans lol so call patriotic Americans want to think I’m American and I want a team in London growing the game globally benefit everyone the fans the most

  52. jimmylions says: Jul 9, 2013 5:03 AM

    All of the concerns raised are actually minor issues and temporary problems. Wake up! The minor logistical issues and easily solved. When Apple introduced the iPhone people thought it was ridiculous and impractical.

    When the money is there, you can’t stop the free market. It’s a force of nature. NFL London may not happen this year or next year, but clearly it is going to happen.

    20 years ago the idea of a show like NFL Red Zone, let alone putting it on stadium screens (an idea I still oppose), would have been just as ridiculous as an NFL franchise located in London.

    Transporation issues? Super sonic jets! Private jets owned by the London team. The airline and aircraft industries want the NFL in London as much as the NFL.

    And ticket prices can always go up to help accommodate all of the new costs, including the additional corruption and bribery necessary to get things done!

    You guys who think the NFL should remain a “US-only sport” are as deluded as the people who think that companies like Ford, Coke, and Federal Express are American companies. They’re multinationals … and their boards care more about stock values than about American patriotism.

    The NFL is a business. It’s a hot dog stand … a very pricey hot dog stand.

  53. blackqbwhiterb says: Jul 9, 2013 5:11 AM

    Football, like Nascar, is an American thing… NFL Europe failed, and this will be a very difficult thing to pull off as well… They like soccer and Formula One racing, because they’re international sports. They resent American stuff for its American-ishness… Soccer doesn’t sell here, and our football won’t sell there. We each like our own stuff

  54. youreallmorons says: Jul 9, 2013 6:24 AM

    This will never happen. If it does than the NFL will look like the biggest hypocrite after snubbing Vegas for all those year and will lose all credibility in its objections to sports betting.

  55. section112 says: Jul 9, 2013 6:45 AM

    @henryjones20….I guess your proud to get you Jags to London post up first. Guess your thinking “finally thought of something first”. Did you hear the Jags were getting 63 million dollars worth of scoreboards ?? I hate to bust your bubble, but you maybe waiting for a LONG time before the Jags move out of the “Ville”. Now go back to room and try to come up with another witty statement that no one has beat into the ground !!!!!!!

  56. therealtrenches says: Jul 9, 2013 6:57 AM

    All of these logistical problems are *just* occurring to people now? I’m sure most hard core fans thought of all this the first time a London team was mentioned a few years ago.

  57. swagjag says: Jul 9, 2013 7:01 AM

    What could we do to make the greatest game in the world even better? I know! Add a few more time zones!

    If they like the game so much across the pond, they can start their own league. India did. I am sure the overcrowded pseudo-expert panels on ESPN and NFLN can spare a few ex-player/coach know it alls to collect a paycheck for expanding the game abroad. If there is SUCH an interest, why does the NFL need to be constantly driving it?

  58. mikeylions says: Jul 9, 2013 7:04 AM

    There is no reason for the NFL to have teams located outside of the US…just create another league and gauge interest within that country or countries…easily one of the dumbest ideas ever

  59. section112 says: Jul 9, 2013 7:05 AM

    @henryjones20….I guess your proud to get your Jags to London post up first. Guess your thinking “finally thought of something first”. Did you hear the Jags were getting 63 million dollars worth of scoreboards ?? I hate to bust your bubble, but you maybe waiting for a LONG time before the Jags move out of the “Ville”. Now go back to your room and try to come up with another witty statement that no one has beaten into the ground !!!!!!!

  60. raiderufan says: Jul 9, 2013 7:13 AM

    I get that this is the “new world” and everything is available with the click of the button. So with that you can understand the desire to get something of this nature done….my quabble is that (like was said above) Mexico City, L.A. and Plenty of Canadian cities are all empty and much easier ways to expand the brand.

    I don’t get this idea lately in almost everything that the only way to do things is to jump from A to Z with out the middle. London is going to be there for a while. How about we progressively expand TOWARDS London and don’t just jump right over and hope it works?

    Also….this world has figured out so many fantastic and wonderful things that it blows the mind….who dropped the ball on advancing air travel? I mean damn. I’ve been flying since I was very little and I don’t think anything has changed other than TV’s in seats. We can fly a fighter jet to the moon and back in .08 seconds but we can’t upgrade technology to cut 2-3 hours off a flight over seas? Jeez….

  61. weneedlinemen42 says: Jul 9, 2013 7:22 AM

    Would it be harder to host a team across the Atlantic, yes, but only marginally so. There various simple ways each difficulty could be ameiliorated.

    Should there be a team in London, no. If you want to develop the international market it is an incredibly inefficient method of doing it.

    There are a lot of passionate and knowledgeable NFL fans in the UK and Europe but almost certainly there are too few to provide a sustainable fan base.

    Sure, we can fill Wembley stadium once, maybe even twice, a year, because it is still a rarity, a novelty event.

    Try staging 8-games a season, year after year and you are going to run into problems. Not least that most of then fans over here are already fans of other teams and wont just switch allegiance over to say the Jaguars just because they play in London.

    If the NFL wants to increase it international market the answer is pretty simple, stop charging extortionate fees for the broadcast rights.

    The NFL was more popular in the UK in the mid-80’s than it is now. It threw away a good start when it sold its rights to Sky, immediately cutting off the majority of its fan base. Now, Sky has done a great job, but its done it for a relatively tiny audience.

    The NFL should be giving away the international broadcast rights to free to air broadcasters. They should be dramatically reducing the price of the internet packages. They just need to make the game accessible. If they need to, they should even pay to get screen time.

    Retailers understand this, even drug dealers understand this, sometimes you have to spend money to make money. You have to give away loss leaders to develop your market. The NFL’s greatest problem is that it just can’t stop itself from trying to extract money from its fans for long enough to think logically about getting more of them.

  62. hobokenbill says: Jul 9, 2013 7:27 AM

    “that means the team would have to keep front-office personnel in the U.S. location, away from the London headquarters”

    um, if the London team hopes to have a college scouting department, they better have front-office personnel in the U.S. The challenge will be for the position coaches to evaluate the tryout players

  63. dumbhobby says: Jul 9, 2013 7:33 AM

    There’s a reason why people outside the country call it American football. Keep it that way.

  64. johndont says: Jul 9, 2013 7:40 AM

    Put a team in North Korea and call them Korean No Lights

  65. brasho says: Jul 9, 2013 7:40 AM

    There’s also one very important factor. Player passports. It might be very difficult for the London team to operate because it could very well be much more difficult for players with previous arrests to get a passport/visa etc. Visiting players on probation may very well not be allowed to enter the country.

  66. onlyonelbc says: Jul 9, 2013 7:55 AM

    I’m English and an avid nfl fan, I think getting 1/2 games in the London is plenty, just can’t see it working long term to have a nfl team based over here it makes very little sense apart from financially, there’s amatuer and semi-pro American football over here as it is (probably more teams than you guys would think) it’s not on any such level as the nfl obviously but seeing guys like Umenyiora and Sean Payton who’ve been in the uk for extended periods, watching the annual London game(s) and getting great tv coverage is good enough for most Brit fans I’d think, there’s no real pioneers over here for an nfl franchise that I’ve heard of, going to a game once or twice a year is a great event, any more and financially it’s too expensive, I think ultimately it would fail

  67. waldoampere says: Jul 9, 2013 8:02 AM

    Gotta love the “language barriers” link and the Channing Crowder reference. I guess I should stop being surprised at how many people like to brag about their ignorance. And if Crowder didn’t know they spoke English in England, is there a chance that he can figure out what they speak in Spain?

  68. root4cleveland says: Jul 9, 2013 8:24 AM

    Maybe start to develop an “international presence” with a team in Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal…something not requiring a hop across the lake. What free agent wouldn’t jump at a chance to play Tijuana? Chihuaha is a pretty big city, too. They could be the “Chihuahua Pitbulls!”

  69. pftisahalftruth says: Jul 9, 2013 8:27 AM

    This is kind of a ridiculous notion. A flight from Chicago to London is 8 hours; a flight from New York to San Diego is 6. It isn’t that big of a deal.

  70. hawkstradamus says: Jul 9, 2013 8:29 AM

    Exactly what language barrier would players face in London? FYI London is a city in England, rumor has it they speak English over there in England. And as for the thing about left footed punters whare to start. London has about half a dozen epl soccer teams (football clubs) so finding a guy to kick a ball shouldnt be a problem. The real obsticale for an nfl franchise will be generating a loyal following for a nfl team in a city that has already spent its sport dollars on soccer and F1

  71. pf1977 says: Jul 9, 2013 8:30 AM

    teams flying to play the team in london, as well as the team returning from a road trip in the states would have to go through customs as well. with as many people on the team, plus all the equipment they travel with, that could be an epic hassle.

    england also has some strict employment laws for people outside of the european union. i know for soccer players playing in england that are from outside of the european union (or don’t qualify as such through a grandparent) they have to have appeared in 75% of their national teams games over the previous 2 years. as we don’t have a national football team, would that mean they would use pro bowl rosters or the all pro team list as the national team pool? would the team have to be made up of mainly european and english players?

    those laws aren’t from some overseeing sporting group or anything, its from the british government and it applies to all jobs, not just sporting ones; and i don’t see them making an exception to have a team that is more than likely going to have a 100% american roster just to say they have a NFL team.

  72. gordoncarver says: Jul 9, 2013 8:37 AM

    An easy work-around as I see it – if indeed the NFL is intent on setting up a UK franchise – is this:

    Take a failing organisation (read: Jaguars) and rebrand them as this ‘London’ team. Move all major operations across the pond, and establish a stadium somewhere in the UK – Wembley perhaps, or the Olympic Park.

    Now – and here’s the crucial bit – keep everything else in the US. Training fields, tax jurisdictions, etc.

    Players would only travel to the UK for Home Games. This eliminates nearly all the issues for players and also allows the NFL to accomplish its goal – making some tidy cash by selling out home games.

    Not saying this is a good idea, but surely it is a more realistic proposal than basing an entire team in the UK.

  73. shackdelrio says: Jul 9, 2013 8:40 AM

    If a team ever called London home, they would have to have a US training facility/headquarters. It would probably be in somewhere like Orlando. They would basically only go to London for games.

    This is a reason why it is unlikely a permanent team will ever go there.

  74. fwippel says: Jul 9, 2013 8:45 AM

    A London franchise is a bad idea for all of the reasons mentioned, and then some. The reality is that most (if not all) of that franchise’s players are going to be American citizens with families in America. They’d essentially be playing all of their games on the road.

    Who wants to do that?

  75. darngoodreason says: Jul 9, 2013 8:47 AM

    let’s move cowboys to mexico city and call them north america’s team.

  76. rayguyreturns says: Jul 9, 2013 9:16 AM

    Language barrier? Don’t you think speaking “English” and “England” kind of go together?

  77. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Jul 9, 2013 9:16 AM

    Now the Vikings have a left-footed punter. Does that mean they have to bring in a right-footed punter every week so the punt returner can get used to the spin of the ball?

  78. irishking says: Jul 9, 2013 9:37 AM

    Actually the first London ‘team’ was a group of ND Law Students sent to London in 1968 and ND has kept it going for all these years. They were called the ‘London Luckies’.

  79. marvinmillersucks says: Jul 9, 2013 9:48 AM

    Above all else, the most important reason it will never work is the 60% tax rate on player and administrative salaries, and the taxation on the gate receipts that visiting teams will have to pay…. what, you’re going to make a salary cap exemption/extension just to pay your players the same net pay as a player from the texans or the jaguars now makes with no state income tax?
    Something smells very fishy, more than the dolphins…

  80. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Jul 9, 2013 11:40 AM

    For those of you pointing out that they speak English in England, click on the hyperlink and you’ll find a story about Channing Crowder being unaware of where London is or what language they speak there.

  81. footballchic777 says: Jul 9, 2013 12:02 PM

    ROGER GOODELL…….IT IS TIME TO STOP WITH THIS! Geez, what happened to protecting the shield? No one wants to go there, football already flopped there, stop pushing it!

  82. rcali says: Jul 9, 2013 12:14 PM

    The NFL is just looking for another sucker city to buy one of their owners a new stadium. I think it’s funny L.A. keeps giving the finger to this idea and the NFL would cut their nuts off to have a team there again.

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