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Raiders call Kingdon, Kebric age discrimination claims “meritless”

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The NFL’s Summer of Law, Part II got a relatively late start.  But the sequel is picking up steam.

Last month, former Raiders scouts Jon Kingdon and Bruce Kebric sued the team for age discrimination.  Both were relieved of their duties in the days following the 2012 draft.  The lawsuit was filed in Alameda County Superior Court.

Kingdon spent 33 years with the Raiders.  He held the position of college scouting director at the time of his termination.

“The Oakland Raiders have a long history of being an equal opportunity employer, without regard to race, gender, or age,” the Raiders said in a statement issued to PFT.  “These claims of age discrimination are meritless.”

Federal and state law protects employees over the age of 40 from adverse employment action.  Employers rarely admit to discriminatory motivations; when it comes to age discrimination, the proof often comes from public or private comments reflecting a desire to go younger, which in many instances also means going cheaper.

When it comes to coaching and front-office jobs in the NFL, those types of statements emerge from time to time, but lawsuits rarely are filed — primarily because those who would file suit become concerned about their ability to be hired by one of the other 31 teams.

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37 Responses to “Raiders call Kingdon, Kebric age discrimination claims “meritless””
  1. ukraiders says: Jul 8, 2013 8:59 PM

    Seriously. just look at all the Raiders picks……but I’m sure it the age. because the game clearly past them by.

  2. tacowrecker says: Jul 8, 2013 9:10 PM

    Any judge with half a brain should be able to look back at the Raiders’ draft picks, free agent signings and trades over the past 5 years or so and agree that these firings were a direct result of sheer incompetence. Anyone who’s watched the Raiders play since 2007 or so could tell you those scouts weren’t doing a good job of identifying good football players. These clowns should realize its actually a miracle they lasted this long.

  3. tinsk says: Jul 8, 2013 9:12 PM

    The other 30 teams? Or the other 31 teams?

  4. justwinbaby29 says: Jul 8, 2013 9:15 PM

    Ridiculous. And what’s wrong with bringing in new blood anyway? Age is one of the few things that SHOULD matter lets face it. Would you want an 80 year old President?

  5. sickoe47 says: Jul 8, 2013 9:19 PM

    They got fired with just cause,half of the players drafted in the last 5 years are no longer in the nfl.

  6. enlightenedskeptic says: Jul 8, 2013 9:19 PM

    An age discrimination claim carries the high “but for” causation requirement. Very tough to prove. This will likely end very quietly with a nominal settlement amount.

  7. nomoreseasontix says: Jul 8, 2013 9:26 PM

    Apparently, they aren’t hearing the phone ringing off the hook with offers.
    I doubt there would be a lawsuit if they had any reasonable prospects.

  8. 49faithful says: Jul 8, 2013 9:27 PM

    Um I think you can make a strong case to fire at least 32 years ago.

  9. bcgreg says: Jul 8, 2013 9:30 PM

    Ironic when front office people don’t like getting cut!

  10. raiderinva says: Jul 8, 2013 9:36 PM

    This story is pointless….

    1) The Raiders have long been the first to break grounds on equality. To include the first black coach, Hispanic Coach, seek black players, black and Indian QB’s, and lets not forget the first lady of football Amy Trask.

    2) The last ten years of draft classes have been publicly made a joke by the media. Picks like Robert Gallery, Stuart Schweigert, Fabin Washington, stanford Routt, Michael Huff, JaMarcus Russell, Mike Mitchell, and Rolando McClain have kept sites like this alive.

    3) The Raiders draft was so predictable about speed and position that guys like Mel Kipper actually started to look smart.

    4) The Raiders have been systematically cleaning house with the staff, players, front office, contracts, and legal department from the moment Reggie McKenzie walked through the front door.

    “The greatness of the Raiders is in their future.” Al Davis

  11. youarejealousof6rings says: Jul 8, 2013 9:38 PM

    Look, you’re old. Just go away.

  12. onbucky96 says: Jul 8, 2013 9:41 PM

    The Raiders also employee fatties who just cash checks. I’m sure the ghost of Al still thinks” JaMarcus Russell is a great quarterback”.

  13. ballergac says: Jul 8, 2013 9:42 PM

    I dont get it…. management can decide to go younger/cheaper etc if they want.. just the same if they wanted older/more expensive. . This is ridiculous… so what’s next, does this mean players over 30 can sue for being cut because a team wants to go younger?

  14. aldavisisthenfl says: Jul 8, 2013 9:44 PM

    So an old doctor who totally suxs can still operate on me because that might be discrimination…..I love the new American…..change!

  15. hendeeze says: Jul 8, 2013 9:51 PM

    Look at the 1st round picks of the Raiders in the past decade. After you are done chuckling to yourself, and before you want to feel bad for them. Just remember these guys think they did a good job. Now continue laughing.

  16. murraysons says: Jul 8, 2013 10:22 PM

    Sometimes I just don’t understand labor law. So if you’re young and useless, hit the bricks. But if your older and useless, you can’t be fired?

  17. tdk24 says: Jul 8, 2013 10:27 PM

    So if you decide to rebuild your company, the minority’s, the women, and the elderly are off limits?

  18. 1964bclions says: Jul 8, 2013 10:31 PM

    Al Davis and The Raiders set the bar very high for NFL Franchises. Amy Trask, the first female executive, Art Shell the first African American head Coach.

    It is not part of the Raiders DNA to discriminate in any way shape or form.

    Case dismissed.

  19. bigredgoog says: Jul 8, 2013 10:33 PM

    Going cheaper is perfectly legitimate business practice.

    In a related matter, the union negotiated an agreement where there is minimum salaries for experienced players. They perhaps unwittingly shortened the careers of players who may be a bit above marginal but because they are five or six years vets get cut for cheaper inexperienced players.

    A safety net for one employee is a lost job opportunity for someone else. Be careful whose job you protect by laws it may be your kid that can’t get a job because of it.

    That said, there are a lot of coaches at 70 more creative than those half their age.

  20. tfbuckfutter says: Jul 8, 2013 10:33 PM

    I’m pretty sure you can’t sue for age discrimination when the guy calling the shots has a hair style that is 60 years old.

  21. 4grammarpolice says: Jul 8, 2013 11:09 PM

    ukraiders: “passed” them by not “past”.

  22. lunarpie says: Jul 8, 2013 11:13 PM

    Its called RETIRE or we fire you!??! No retire? Okay, you’re FIRED!

    Reggie McKenzie shedding more dead weight in Oakland!!!!!!

    AWESOME!!!!

    Put the money saved towards a better stadium!!!!

  23. herkulease says: Jul 8, 2013 11:18 PM

    Couldn’t the Raiders can easily point to new management.

    Raiders brought in McKenzie in January. At the point its too late to fire the scouts you have on staff with the draft in less than 3 months away. You can’t exactly start over from scratch you’d be behind everyone, who’s had a whole year to go nearly ever college player.

    Only after the draft was completed would it be the ideal time to let them go.

  24. youarejealousof6rings says: Jul 8, 2013 11:20 PM

    LOL, they are still drafting players that are suited for the 1980s NFL.

  25. kenstabler says: Jul 8, 2013 11:24 PM

    I’m sure Amy Trask will be their lawyer for free. I wonder if she gave them any advice?

  26. Oldcat says: Jul 8, 2013 11:29 PM

    Hopefully the Raiders didn’t continue and say “…those old geezers must be senile”

  27. wte1 says: Jul 8, 2013 11:31 PM

    Have any Plaintiffs actually ever won an Age Discrimination lawsuit?

  28. sc49ers says: Jul 8, 2013 11:37 PM

    The raiders will b the raiders theres no other team that makes more mistakes then the rrrrrrrraiders……

  29. raiderrob21 says: Jul 8, 2013 11:51 PM

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  30. drewzducks says: Jul 9, 2013 12:01 AM

    Had they done the same thing to that senile fool Al about 10 years ago maybe they wouldn’t have been such an embarrassment to the league for the last 10 years.

  31. irootforthecardinals says: Jul 9, 2013 12:02 AM

    You mean the other 31 teams, Florio. The Jaguars take offense.

  32. stewart09 says: Jul 9, 2013 12:25 AM

    im sure this is the guy who thought Jamarcus , Heyward-bey, mcclain, huff and robert gallery were all worth top 10 picks you got fired for gross incompetence not age, they just want a retirement payday because they know with that track record they will never be hired again.

  33. rjmoore12 says: Jul 9, 2013 1:57 AM

    All well and good, youngsters, unless the goofball son of a legend puts his foot in his mouth. Stay tuned to the trial.

  34. 4grammarpolice says: Jul 9, 2013 6:22 AM

    sc49ers: you should have put an apostrophe in “theres” and nobody makes more mistakes “than” the Raiders, not “then”. (I’m guessing the sc stands for South Carolina?)

  35. Killachap says: Jul 9, 2013 7:06 AM

    Welcome to the new ‘Merica! Hope you liberal yahoos are happy.

  36. lostsok says: Jul 9, 2013 7:11 AM

    Shakedown.

  37. djcologne says: Jul 9, 2013 8:18 AM

    Those old bastards just need to shut up and eat their prunes!

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