Ortiz said “other football players” used the Hernandez apartment

AP

The affidavit that details Carlos Ortiz’s comments to police regarding the murder of Odin Lloyd touches on another important fact.

Ortiz told police about the separate apartment Aaron Hernandez kept, in the general vicinity of his $1.3 million home.  In the affidavit, Ortiz is characterized as telling investigators “other football players” used the apartment.

Our buddy Tom Curran of CSN New England wonders whether these “other football players” could include Patriots players, who could be questioned about their possible use of the apartment, and their knowledge about the things that were stored there.

Given that police found ammunition in the apartment, things could get awkward quickly for the organization (or, as the case may be, more awkward) if one or more other members of the team knew about Hernandez possessing ammunition and, necessarily, guns.

That’s not to say that, if they knew, they should have told the team or anyone else about it.  The point is that, if there’s any evidence players other than Hernandez knew about ammunition being stored at a previously unknown apartment, it’s just not a good look for the organization.

68 responses to “Ortiz said “other football players” used the Hernandez apartment

  1. I’m pretty sure they were using the apartment to “entertain” young ladies other than their wives/girlfriends. Difficult to connect the dots from Hernandez back to the Patriots for the use of a love-shack.

  2. What’s the problem with owning guns? Guns are legal. I don’t see how that is a bad look for the organization. There are pictures of Jared Allen holding rifles among dead animals. Presumably, he owns these guns. Does that mean it is a bad look for the Vikings that they have a player who owns guns? I think this is another case of Florio trying to stir up controversy when there isn’t any. The problem here isn’t that Aaron Hernandez is a gun owner, the problem is that Aaron Hernandez is a murderer. Why should we expect football players to automatically assume any teammate who owns a gun is a criminal?

  3. Florio – what kind of “culture” are the New England Patriots fostering? Isn’t that the kind of question the NFL should be asking Kraft and Belichick? Maybe even the media could ask that question, just once?

  4. that last bit about players possibly knowing about ammo is just the more recent example of ridiculousness from this site about this case. Stick to the facts please. There is NOTHING wrong with having ammo in an apartment.

  5. Tom Brady and Wes Welker used to apartment as their own personal Brokeback Mountain?

    Gronk used the place to dance shirtless with hookers?

    Albert Haynesworth used the couch to sit around and get fatter?

    Inquiring minds need to know.

  6. Ai yi yi this has gone from its raining to its pouring to a freaking monsoon.

    Next they’re going to go looking for Hoffa’s body in Hernandez’ back yard.

  7. eddard,

    It looks bad no matter what gun nuts say about it. Do you think Hernandez and Co. were duck hunting? Or looking for New England quail? Gimme a break, moron.

  8. On top of that, the only reason the gun charges are filed against Hernandez is because A) He didn’t have an FID card and B) He had high capacity mags. In most other states, none of those would be charges against him. You don’t need any kind of Firearm Owners ID card to possess nor are high cap mags illegal. Those charges really aren’t that big of a deal. MA is just a liberal state infringing citizens rights.

  9. @eddardofthehousestark

    It’s not as simple as saying “guns are legal”. In Minnesota you can purchase and own a hunting rifle without registering it with the state. Therefore, Jared Allen is within his rights (and the law) to own those rifles.

    In Maryland to legally purchase a handgun you must approve it with the state police as well as take a safety training course. To carry a handgun you must also have a “good and substantial” reason. Did Aaron Hernandez legally own that handgun? I can’t say for sure, but I’d guess no.

  10. Translation: Gronk used the place to bang damaged, white trash skanks with daddy issues that clung to him at the strip club. I don’t see how this is an image problem for the Patriots.

  11. I don’t see a legal issue here, but, this is about to get very uncomfortable for a lot of Patriots…who just happen to be married.

  12. Ffor all those saying this guy wont hold up in court or wont be believed I got bad news he will. Only on TV are prosecution witnesses clean cut and wholesome. In the real world guys go away every day because some two bit crook ratted. But hey no one wanted to believe me when I said that them not surving the obstruction warrant right away ment they were putting together a murder case.

  13. Just a reminder that “other football players” doesn’t clearly indicate NFL, let alone the Patriots. Odin Lloyd was an amateur football player. Let’s not just to every conceivable conclusion at once.

  14. jdhein22 says:
    Jul 10, 2013 3:28 PM
    Florio – what kind of “culture” are the New England Patriots fostering? Isn’t that the kind of question the NFL should be asking Kraft and Belichick? Maybe even the media could ask that question, just once?
    _________________________________
    Sigh…the Patriots aren’t FOSTERING anything, they CUT HIM when they found out what he was involved in. They are potentially taking on a huge cap hit for a guy they aren’t going to have on their team when they desperately need receiving options. Do people really think they would have extended his contract if they’d known he was involved in murders etc? Even if you think they are a bunch of low lifes for whatever reason, no team would want to extend someone for that kind of money who they thought could be missing time to go to prison.

    A better complaint might be why aren’t the media badgering Jerry Jones about keeping a drunk driving murderer on their payroll (and no Donte Stallworth is not the same situation in any way shape or form so don’t even go there). THAT could be considering FOSTERING bad behavior becuase they are PAYING HIM.

  15. eddardofthehousestark:
    What’s the problem with owning guns? Guns are legal. I don’t see how that is a bad look for the organization. There are pictures of Jared Allen holding rifles among dead animals. Presumably, he owns these guns. Does that mean it is a bad look for the Vikings that they have a player who owns guns? I think this is another case of Florio trying to stir up controversy when there isn’t any. The problem here isn’t that Aaron Hernandez is a gun owner, the problem is that Aaron Hernandez is a murderer. Why should we expect football players to automatically assume any teammate who owns a gun is a criminal?
    /
    So glad you posted this. To further put this in perspective, say AH murdered them with a hammer. Would anyone be trying to restrict hammers, or indicating that owning them is a bad thing?

    The fact is, the instrument used to commit homicide is irrelevant. That people have enough malice in them to commit murder is the problem

  16. Married player. Wife at home. Needs a place to bring a stripper/groupie for a quickie…Hernendez has your back.

  17. If/when other Patriot players are questioned about hanging out at the apartment, are you going to blame that one on Urban Meyer also?

  18. What kind of football players and with what team?
    Not necessarily Patriots. Could have been teammates of Odin Lloyd from the semi- pro team. Could have been from the Pop Warner League too.

  19. The “other football players” could have been Lloyd’s teammates but since baseless speculation and yellow journalism is a good way to get page hits let’s just assume that Patriots players were there.

  20. Everyone calling Ortiz a snitch is hilarious. I assume all of you would have your “buddies” back and keep it locked it, regardless of the threat to charge you with the murder if you do not cooperate? I mean you wouldn’t possibly let a man who you know shot Lloyd take the fall for his own actions would you? No, I’m sure a life sentence would be much better for you as long as you have your dignity for keeping your mouth shut as opposed to a plea bargain an getting a substantially shorter sentence. Clearly friendship of a man on the other side of the bars matters more that your freedom and justice. Morons.

  21. touchdown83 says:Jul 10, 2013 3:41 PM

    I can’t WAIT for this to become a Lifetime Movie of the week!!!!!!!!!!!
    ~~~~~~~~~
    Not **Lifetime** pleeze…..everythong they do is awful. A movie, yes, but not Lifetime.

  22. Lets see now, if another Patriot player knew Hernandez owned a gun, then what? Are they supposed to ask him if he has a permit for it? Something tells me there are more guns owned by members of the NFL than by members of the general population, by percentage. And where exactly would he keep the ammo for this gun? In his daughter’s doll house?
    Talk about searching for another “issue”.

  23. Of course Roethlisberger could have been bringing his coed girlfriends to the apartment for a little privacy. Nobody said it was a Patriots player using the apartment.
    We’re all about speculation and throwing around accusations on this thread, right?

  24. Pats will not be Super Bowl team this year. Too much of this case will cause a distraction. I don’t care how good the coach is, there is no way to get around it.

  25. This is making Viking love boat look like a children’s book. I’m popping popcorn and sit by the fire place reading pft all night. This is getting good

  26. This could impact the Patriots in three distinct ways:

    1. No impact: The circus doesn’t help or hurt the team on the field

    2. Negative impact: The Patriots are distracted from the task at hand and other teams see them as vulnerable

    3. Positive impact: As was the case after spygate, the team comes together in an us versus the world mindset and punishes their opponents

    I know which one I expect is most likely.

  27. Patriots are supposed to have ammunition. Didn’t you watch that Mel Gibson movie?

  28. USA today has a story today that quotes 3 neighbors in Franklin, including “neighborhood watch dog” where “they say I never saw any other players around here.”

  29. bpfpft says: Jul 10, 2013 7:34 PM

    USA today has a story today that quotes 3 neighbors in Franklin, including “neighborhood watch dog” where “they say I never saw any other players around here.”
    —————————————————–
    How would they know unless they were wearing shoulder pads and a helmet.

    The problem with Ortiz’s statement is that it could induce law enforcement to question more people, possibly including “players”.

  30. You all think AH is the only punk in the league? You think “other players” can only infer Patriots and guys from Lloyds league?

    Wake up and scrutinize the three mediums in the league:

    There are the highly successful, well educated, hard-working, financial investors.
    The getting through their career, talented enough role-players with little public exposure going home to their families every night.
    And then there are the Dog killing making it rain in a white suit on the love boat with a 45 selfie before whacking the preggo girlfriend and getting caught with a drug-test-pissing-device while bustin into a bay area home and selling purple dank.

    Trust me, EVERY team out there has the same assortment of the above mentioned. So don’t be shocked if you hear one of your teams players (who happens to have plenty of coin to get around whenever and wherever), is one of the other football players hangin’ with the Pistola Puerto Rican.

  31. I don’t think a “tuck rule” is going to save the Patriots this time. Ortiz has given the police info. that is going to reach out and touch other players. All they have to do is start acquiring “other ” fingerprints from the apartment. These guys go to college for 4 years and come out idiots. I love it.

  32. @tigerlilac ..u crazy just like all pats ..buy they will b ok cus they will continue to dink n dunk cus that’s all mr michigan bench warming 6th round pick tuck rule miracle given tom lady can do..they do good against there below .500 schedule n get 6 wins off there weak ass division n waltz prance skip right into playoffs then the zebras have to help tom lady keep chains moving but then wen facing a team ova .500 n they get punched in mouth its over …we will all witness the power if spygate n brady second frequency so they can try n prove there’s ni distraction

  33. While it isn’t illegal to own guns and ammunition, here in Ma. you must have a firearms identification card or face mandatory jail sentences. If I have been following this correctly, he doesn’t have the card(s).

  34. CKL says:
    Jul 10, 2013 3:55 PM
    jdhein22 says:
    Jul 10, 2013 3:28 PM
    Florio – what kind of “culture” are the New England Patriots fostering? Isn’t that the kind of question the NFL should be asking Kraft and Belichick? Maybe even the media could ask that question, just once?
    _________________________________
    Sigh…the Patriots aren’t FOSTERING anything, they CUT HIM when they found out what he was involved in. They are potentially taking on a huge cap hit for a guy they aren’t going to have on their team when they desperately need receiving options. Do people really think they would have extended his contract if they’d known he was involved in murders etc? Even if you think they are a bunch of low lifes for whatever reason, no team would want to extend someone for that kind of money who they thought could be missing time to go to prison.

    A better complaint might be why aren’t the media badgering Jerry Jones about keeping a drunk driving murderer on their payroll (and no Donte Stallworth is not the same situation in any way shape or form so don’t even go there). THAT could be considering FOSTERING bad behavior becuase they are PAYING HIM.
    ______________________________

    Comparing the media scrutiny of the Hernandez case vs. the Brent case is lazy. Brent is a fool and deserves to go to jail, but it was still an accident where two grown, drunk adults got into a car and had the worst possible outcome. Hernandez, allegedly, shot and killed a guy and is a suspect in at least two other murders and a slew of shootings.

    Sure, the Patriots cut him, but don’t fool yourself into thinking that if it were Tom Brady instead of Aaron Hernandez the turk would have taken a few more decades to come and collect his playbook. The Patriots are starting to remind me of the Cowboys from the 1990’s though (um…sans the murder rap). And we even found out that Hernandez may have had a Patriots version of the famous Dallas “White House”. I can a few of the jokes Cowboys fans endured back then…

    What do you call a drug ring in New England?……..A huddle.

    Four Patriots in a car, who’s driving?……The police.

    What’s Robert Kraft’s biggest concern?…………………..Does Bail Money count against the Salary Cap?

    Why can’t Aquib Talib get into a huddle on the field anymore?…It is a parole violation for him to associate with known felons.

    Thank you, Thank you! I’ll be here all week…don’t forget to tip your waitress!!

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