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Marcus Vick compares Zimmerman case to Mike Vick’s legal troubles

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Marcus Vick had plenty of football talent; his NFL career nevertheless was extremely limited.

But Marcus, via his off-field issues and his connection to Eagles quarterback Mike Vick, remains on the fringes of pro football.  Especially when Marcus says or does something noteworthy.

Marcus did it again today, during the prosecution’s closing arguments in the George Zimmerman murder trial.

“Zimmerman better get 30+ years in prison,” Marcus Vick said via Twitter.  “If my brother had to do 2 years it’s a must.  Not self defense when u chase down an innocent kid.”

A fair point.  Not too outlandish.  Then came the next one.

“He could’ve fired warning shots!!! I hope the homies in the BIG house go bananas on his racist ass.”

Warning shots would have still put bullets in to the air; who knows where they would have ended up?  And hoping that Zimmerman, who claims he killed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in self defense, suffers violence if he’s in prison strays well beyond the limits of the criminal justice system.

Marcus had one more:  “A dogs life means more than a humans? Or a black person life huh?”

Somewhere, Mike Vick is cringing at that one.  As he should.  Though Mike Vick has done a good job of keeping Marcus at arm’s length, the last thing Mike Vick needs as he prepares to try to keep what could be his last NFL starting job is Marcus stirring up topics and issues that won’t do anything to help Mike Vick accomplish his current goals.

The broader point is that plenty of people who think they know everything there is to know about the case but who haven’t studied it or watched the trial will react to the verdict, whatever it may be.  Indeed, people like Marcus Vick are reacting even before the verdict has been reached.

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144 Responses to “Marcus Vick compares Zimmerman case to Mike Vick’s legal troubles”
  1. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Jul 11, 2013 3:08 PM

    Maybe Marcus should try watching the details of the trial instead of listening to Al Sharpton. Zimmerman will not be convicted, nor should he have even been charged.

  2. stlunatik says: Jul 11, 2013 3:08 PM

    FREE ZIMMERMAN! prosecute the uneducated morons that caused the whole fiasco.

    “THE TRUTH”

  3. ijahru says: Jul 11, 2013 3:09 PM

    Marcus Vick is a piece of garbage. His brother took part in the sadistic killing of dogs with no remorse until he got caught. Mike Vick served his time but I feel the NFL should have banned him for life. I don’t know what happened during the confrontation between Zimmerman and Martin but if Martin was white then Vick would not be defending him. Who is the racist ass Marcus?

  4. philyeagles5 says: Jul 11, 2013 3:09 PM

    You can’t and never will be able to fix stupid.

  5. blackandbluedivision says: Jul 11, 2013 3:12 PM

    Stop giving this guy publicity. He clearly has no idea what he’s talking about.

  6. offthelows says: Jul 11, 2013 3:13 PM

    a warning shot when you’re getting your head bashed into the pavement probably isn’t a good idea. Once the gun is made visible you better use it quick or the person overpowering you will likely use it on you.

  7. gpete1962 says: Jul 11, 2013 3:14 PM

    hey Marcus!! you sound like you speak from experience with words like Prison, bananas and A$$ES.

    U gots alotta class MV, To bad its all low!

  8. joshp85 says: Jul 11, 2013 3:14 PM

    Marcus Vick is one of the biggest idiots ever.

  9. acosltl says: Jul 11, 2013 3:14 PM

    Is Marcus tweeting from the pen??

  10. expertop says: Jul 11, 2013 3:14 PM

    Zimmerman is to handgun as Marcus Vick is to Twitter.

  11. @Cereal_22 says: Jul 11, 2013 3:16 PM

    Marcus may be more talented than Michael,,,crazy athlete, literally dumb as a rock.

  12. mike32303 says: Jul 11, 2013 3:18 PM

    Its comments like this that make me realize why this country is still racist. What a moron

  13. jacunn2000 says: Jul 11, 2013 3:18 PM

    Uuuggghhhh… The poor Vick brothers.. VOMIT!

  14. raidadon says: Jul 11, 2013 3:19 PM

    Wow! No comments on this one. Can’t wait til they put the pads on. These guys need to get to doin what they do

  15. stumpzzz says: Jul 11, 2013 3:20 PM

    *Facepalm*

    Really Marcus…nothing you say anymore surprises me. :/

  16. patriotenvy says: Jul 11, 2013 3:21 PM

    It’s not against the law to follow someone. But I’m sure there are a lot of other criminals that are upset that a citizen defended themself when assualted for simply following someone.

  17. philsphan34 says: Jul 11, 2013 3:21 PM

    Bah bah black sheep

  18. larryfinfan says: Jul 11, 2013 3:23 PM

    Talk about the pot calling the kettle black….Mr. Vick, you are as big a racist as Zimmerman. Zimmerman, justified or not took a life, and that’s sad, but y0u’ve convicted the man before his trial is even over ?? Your brother was tried by a jury of his peers, just as this overzealous idiot is being tried…When, if he’s convicted then you can worry about his status after prison life begins… Just because he was chasing a black kid in his backyard does not make him a racist…I’m pretty sure, given what we actually know about Zimmerman, he’d have done the same with anyone running around his house and neighborhood. Whether he was right or wrong is NOT for you or I to judge…that’s up to the jury…

  19. cardiovascularendurance says: Jul 11, 2013 3:24 PM

    I wonder what Donovan McNabb thinks of Marcus Vick. There’s a headline for ya.

  20. thestrategyexpert says: Jul 11, 2013 3:24 PM

    Sorry Marcus, he’s going to walk on all charges tomorrow. There’s a difference between a black person’s life, and a black person engaged in attempted murder’s life. One has an entitlement to life, and the other not necessarily.

  21. bubbasmithguy says: Jul 11, 2013 3:24 PM

    Another idot talking out his a$$. He must have have been there the night the kid was shot. Since the evidence doesn’t point to that being the case.

  22. raideralex99 says: Jul 11, 2013 3:25 PM

    This is why racism exist … the black card is always played.
    It’s a good thing Marcus wasn’t a redskin because the Washington Redskins name would not exist.

  23. daburgher says: Jul 11, 2013 3:28 PM

    the Vicks are scum

  24. ken0west says: Jul 11, 2013 3:29 PM

    That reminds me, how is it that you only get 2 years for the calculated, sadistic murder of defenseless animals?

    Was Marcus citing racism when Mr. Pointdexter was trying to give Mike a pass?

  25. officialmiamidolphinsspokesperson says: Jul 11, 2013 3:30 PM

    Marcus Vick is a piece of garbage. His brother took part in the sadistic killing of dogs with no remorse until he got caught. Mike Vick served his time but I feel the NFL should have banned him for life. I don’t know what happened during the confrontation between Zimmerman and Martin but if Martin was white then Vick would not be defending him. Who is the racist ass Marcus?

    ———————————
    way to flip it around ijahru. the whole “but if Martin was white then Vick would not be defending him. Who is the racist ass Marcus?”

    So your saying Marcus Vick (a young black male), who is speaking about what may or may not be the wrongful/ unnecessary death of another young black male, is racist because he wouldnt defend if it was a young white male?

    wow.

  26. 69finfan says: Jul 11, 2013 3:32 PM

    Warning shots, really? Marcus, leave the adult conversations/topics to well, adults.

  27. mrtreyseven says: Jul 11, 2013 3:32 PM

    outlandish statements by him but if you all watch the case as y’all suggest for him you would see if Zimmerman never left his vehicle this situation would never had happened. You believe a grown puggy man can get penned down by a 5’11 158 lbs. boy what its not logical everyone blames the kid but what human wouldn’t be a little distressed if a strange man is following him at night

  28. fdugrad says: Jul 11, 2013 3:34 PM

    Marcus is as dumb as it gets. Warning shots!! The fact the missiles could have gone anywhere INCLUDING into an innocent victim doesn’t appear to register with this jerk! For MANY reasons, I surely hope Marcus lives somewhere where there are VERY few proximate neighbors!

  29. deltaoracle says: Jul 11, 2013 3:35 PM

    Zimmerman like many had a Dirty Harry fantasy of himself. He did an incredibly stupid thing by following Martin. But I haven’t heard anything that makes me think he will be convicted of murder. And manslaughter or even aggravated assault are real longshots. Zimmerman was a fool who deserved to get his butt kicked, but he was a fool who deserved to get his butt kicked who had a gun. And in America, unfortunately, that hardly makes him stand out. The case for murder was very weak.

  30. lllllalaskajack says: Jul 11, 2013 3:37 PM

    There are two types of commenters on the Zimmerman case.

    (1) Those, like Vick, who have a general impression of the case and think Zimmerman is guilty

    (2) Those who have actually been following the facts of the case.

    The first commenter, “Rick Spielman is a magician,” is correct. The state really has no case. The entire prosecution rests on the hypothesis that “Zimmerman is a horrible racist wannabe cop who shot Martin because he wanted to.” There is no evidence to support this, and there never was.

    lllll Alaska Jack

  31. cwill99 says: Jul 11, 2013 3:38 PM

    Everyone knows the Vick brothers are P.O.S. and I don’t say that just b/c I’m a Giants fan. It’s true. It’s funny how you’d be hard pressed to find one black person to find Zimmerman innocent yet it’s never about race. It’s also like the almost perfect 100 percent of blacks that voted for Obama each time he ran. You see how that’s working out for us. This country, media, and groups of people white or black that are either uneducated, uninformed, or just don’t care is what will continue to set us back until it’s too late. Keep singing Kumbayah, I rather speak the truth.

  32. bgrillz says: Jul 11, 2013 3:40 PM

    To the guys who think Zimmerman should walk, and shouldn’t even be charged, I pose this question…Why did he get out of his car when he was admonished not to, and then pursue the kid? Get his a$$ handed to him by a 17 year old, who he then has to shoot? Murder, probably not, manslaughter, most definitely.

  33. irishgary says: Jul 11, 2013 3:40 PM

    I would be embarrassed to be part of Virginia Tech.

  34. truthfactory says: Jul 11, 2013 3:41 PM

    Simple minded people say things like “he followed an innocent kid so he must be guilty”.

    Reasonable and objective people waited to hear the facts and evidence before they jumped to conclusions.

    That being said- no way Zimmerman should be convicted. “Following someone” is not a crime- but beating their heads into concrete is.

  35. truthfactory says: Jul 11, 2013 3:48 PM

    outlandish statements by him but if you all watch the case as y’all suggest for him you would see if Zimmerman never left his vehicle this situation would never had happened. You believe a grown puggy man can get penned down by a 5’11 158 lbs. boy what its not logical everyone blames the kid but what human wouldn’t be a little distressed if a strange man is following him at night.
    ——–

    Being a “little distressed” is a far cry from jumping someone and beatig the crap out of them. Martin was a fighter- and the text messages on his phone prove it. He even said one regret that he had in one of his fights was that his opponent “didnt bleed enough”. The kid jumped a guy who was legally carrying a gun and had a legal right to defend himself. Not sayin he deserved to die, but this exact case is why we have self defense laws and rights to carry a concealed weapon. You should t have to wait 15 min for the cops while getting ur brains beat in by a fight hungry kid who gets a kick out of beating people up.

  36. lllllalaskajack says: Jul 11, 2013 3:48 PM

    Case in point: mrtreyseven.

    “if Zimmerman never left his vehicle this situation would never had happened. ”

    It is not illegal to leave your vehicle. Zimmerman was a well-regarded neighborhood watch officer. He saw someone wandering somewhat aimlessly around in the rain in his community, which had recently had a rash of break-ins. What did he do? HE CALLED THE POLICE. When he lost sight of the person, he got out of his vehicle in an attempt to maintain visual contact. There is zero evidence that he intended to initiate any kind of confrontation.

    “You believe a grown puggy man can get penned down by a 5’11 158 lbs. boy”

    Martin was lighter, but taller. At the time of the incident Zimmerman only outweighed him by 20 pounds. Martin was a 17yo athlete; Zimmerman was decidedly unathletic (on a scale of 1-10, his gym instructor described his fighting ability as less than one). Martin had a history of fighting, and bragging about it in texts (which the judge did not allow to be introduced as evidence in the trial).

    As far as the “penned down” part, the state has now CONCEDED that Martin was in fact on top, as described by the trial’s gunshot expert and the only witness (John Good) to actually see part of the fight.

    “what human wouldn’t be a little distressed if a strange man is following him at night”

    Being distressed is legal. What is not legal is doubling back to physically assault someone (a “creepy-ass cracker” as Martin described him) who is following you.

    lllll Alaska Jack

  37. officialmiamidolphinsspokesperson says: Jul 11, 2013 3:49 PM

    cwill99 says: Jul 11, 2013 3:38 PM

    Everyone knows the Vick brothers are P.O.S. and I don’t say that just b/c I’m a Giants fan. It’s true. It’s funny how you’d be hard pressed to find one black person to find Zimmerman innocent yet it’s never about race. It’s also like the almost perfect 100 percent of blacks that voted for Obama each time he ran. You see how that’s working out for us. This country, media, and groups of people white or black that are either uneducated, uninformed, or just don’t care is what will continue to set us back until it’s too late. Keep singing Kumbayah, I rather speak the truth.

    ———————————————————–

    Cwill it seems like you are using the fact the many african americans believe zimmerman is guilty of ‘some’ crime (which is reasonable-i mean they ARE in court after all) to boost your misguided opinion that 100% of blacks voted for our Obama and is ruining our country. According to the US Census, blacks only make up 13.1% of the country. A good portion of that cant even vote for various reasons.
    Obama didnt win off of 13.1% of the votes,apparently others wanted him too.

  38. stevent92 says: Jul 11, 2013 3:49 PM

    Anyone remember Daniel Cicciaro on Long Island?

    Didn’t think so….

  39. westlaw1 says: Jul 11, 2013 3:50 PM

    Good to know that America feels that it is unreasonable for a child to feel afraid of an individual following them on a rainy night, for 10 minutes, through two 90 degree turn, and through another 90 degree turn that forced the individual to get out of his vehicle to continue the pursuit.

  40. lilman2834 says: Jul 11, 2013 3:50 PM

    Im embarrased to be a eagle fan by the comments yall made, yall really think Zimmerman should be free, SMDH

  41. westlaw1 says: Jul 11, 2013 3:55 PM

    Foot meet mouth.

  42. sarcasm says: Jul 11, 2013 3:57 PM

    The Vick brothers. The shallow end of the gene pool aka, the cesspool.

    These morons are in a competition to see which one is dumber.

    Worthless.

    Both of these jokes should both be in the big house being worked over by the homies and rubes… In more ways than one.

  43. maiphatdong says: Jul 11, 2013 3:58 PM

    “dogs life means more than a humans”

    i know plenty that do actually, my dog> Vick

  44. illmatic8582 says: Jul 11, 2013 3:58 PM

    I don’t agree with Marcus but he’s right. Zimmerman should go to prison. There was no reason he should have been following him, he was the clear aggressor in this case. And yes there are people in the world who were more gung ho to see Mike Vick go to jail (which he should have) than seeing Zimmerman punished for his crime. At the end of the day bc of zimmerman’s actions there is a family who will never see their son graduate high school or college, get married, become a father. He stole that from trayvon’s parents and someone has to pay for that. The only person who can pay is the defendant.

  45. remyje says: Jul 11, 2013 3:59 PM

    A lot of you are more mad about Vick’s comments than Vick really is about the trial…..retards

  46. farvite says: Jul 11, 2013 4:00 PM

    Just can’t fix stupid, can you?!

    If I ever hear anything thing fr this dope, it will be too soon.

  47. ravens4lifeudig says: Jul 11, 2013 4:10 PM

    Since every one know the facts about murder case. Can u explain why are most of ya ll defending Zimmerman say he will get off the whole point is he killed a young innocent teen after being told not to chase him !!!!!!!!!!! 2 while your defending the guy think if some guy was chasing you what would? Trayvon fought the guy who was chasing him and beats him up than because zimm could take a butt whiping for chasing a guy who belong where he was at ( walking to stepmom house) he shoots and he dies . now it self defense . most still defends this guy . Can any1 tell me what did trayvon do wrong . But I guess it ok to kill any you think that’s up to no good

  48. officialmiamidolphinsspokesperson says: Jul 11, 2013 4:11 PM

    Hey America what ever happened to catching a good old fashioned, passionate a$$ whipping? You follow someone —get your butt kicked—-kill them and claim self defense.

    Trayvon was 5’11 158. THE SIZE OF DESEAN JACKSON R U KIDDING ME?

  49. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Jul 11, 2013 4:13 PM

    illmatic8582 says:Jul 11, 2013 3:58 PM

    I don’t agree with Marcus but he’s right. Zimmerman should go to prison. There was no reason he should have been following him, he was the clear aggressor in this case. And yes there are people in the world who were more gung ho to see Mike Vick go to jail (which he should have) than seeing Zimmerman punished for his crime. At the end of the day bc of zimmerman’s actions there is a family who will never see their son graduate high school or college, get married, become a father. He stole that from trayvon’s parents and someone has to pay for that. The only person who can pay is the defendant.
    ________

    The facts don’t support the idea that Zimmerman was the clear aggressor. He was following Martin because he was part of a neighborhood watch and there had been a lot of break-ins and burglaries in the neighborhood. The 911 operator told Zimmerman he didn’t have to follow Martin, and Zimmerman said “OK.” It was Martin who then confronted Zimmerman. Zimmerman may very well have wound up dead if he hadn’t defended himself against his attacker. If Martin just goes home, nothing happens.

  50. lions81slappy says: Jul 11, 2013 4:14 PM

    call me naive but I don’t see how referring to an incident that happened over 5 years ago diminishes “what he (mike vick) is trying to accomplish”. the guy did his time has been repetant about his actions and was forgiven and reinstated by the league. these comments have absolutely no bearing on vick as it pertains to his performance on the field and therefore means nothing to anybody who matters

  51. kmack831 says: Jul 11, 2013 4:14 PM

    I havent followed much of the case or the Charges now? or prosecution trying to change the charges?

    Zimmerman on manslaughter would not face 30+ years.

    Also if Martin would have shown respect / submitted / Chill’d / Relaxed / Put his hands up / identified himself as the son of a resident…any number of things to not in Zimms mind put Zimms in fear. Then Martin would still be here.

    Again i dont know all the facts and why Zimms chase this guy down. But theres a reason they have a neighborhood watch. Theres issues there. And its more about safety than Martin being black… if he was brown or white and acted defiant then he could have been shot too…

    Marcus…. What about OJ!!! He should be in prison 30+ for Nicole!!!

    Florida and other states have a Shoot first ask questions later laws (Stand your ground, etc) And based on what Zimms job was as Neighborhood Watch, and what ever transpired, then attack, fight, Martin reaching for the gun…

    You need to know and be aware of what could happen. If you run in the street you need to be aware that a car could hit you…. If your in FL and in an area were there is crime, and someone tried to check why you are in their Hood… you need to be aware that they might shoot you if they believe you will put their life at risk. Not be defiant. Or aggressive.

    I know when i go to a bad part of town, i make sure im not wearing anything someone might mistake me as being in a gang. And that you dont stare at someone or disrespect them, you mind your P’s & Q’s…. if not you could get blasted….

  52. truthfactory says: Jul 11, 2013 4:18 PM

    Since every one know the facts about murder case. Can u explain why are most of ya ll defending Zimmerman say he will get off the whole point is he killed a young innocent teen after being told not to chase him !!!!!!!!!!! 2 while your defending the guy think if some guy was chasing you what would? Trayvon fought the guy who was chasing him and beats him up than because zimm could take a butt whiping for chasing a guy who belong where he was at ( walking to stepmom house) he shoots and he dies . now it self defense . most still defends this guy . Can any1 tell me what did trayvon do wrong . But I guess it ok to kill any you think that’s up to no good
    ——

    You clearly havent paid any attention to this case other than what you’ve heard on MSNBC.

    #1. He was never told “dont follow him”. He was told “you dont have to do that”. Big difference.

    2. Where is here proof or any evidence to suggest he aggressively “chased” him as you implied? He got out of his car (not illegal) and the fight happened fairly close to his car.

    3. Even if Travon was being followed, its not illegal to follow or walk behind someone. You dont just get to beat someone up for “following you”. Its called “assault” if you do that and the other guy can defend himself.

  53. ravens4lifeudig says: Jul 11, 2013 4:18 PM

    It’s a lot of sick minds on here sad world .this world won’t ever change how can u not want justice. If it was y’all love one that got kill every1 of y’all would want them to go to jail but because it some kid you don’t know u don’t care. Smh

  54. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Jul 11, 2013 4:19 PM

    ravens4lifeudig says:Jul 11, 2013 4:10 PM

    Since every one know the facts about murder case. Can u explain why are most of ya ll defending Zimmerman say he will get off the whole point is he killed a young innocent teen after being told not to chase him !!!!!!!!!!! 2 while your defending the guy think if some guy was chasing you what would? Trayvon fought the guy who was chasing him and beats him up than because zimm could take a butt whiping for chasing a guy who belong where he was at ( walking to stepmom house) he shoots and he dies . now it self defense . most still defends this guy . Can any1 tell me what did trayvon do wrong . But I guess it ok to kill any you think that’s up to no good
    ________

    Zimmerman wasn’t chasing Martin. He followed him for a while, then stopped. That’s not chasing somebody. If Martin continues walking to his stepmom’s house, or wherever he was headed, nothing happens. What Trayvon did wrong was deciding he was going to beat up a guy for no good reason. It’s a tragedy that didn’t have to happen.

  55. FinFan68 says: Jul 11, 2013 4:19 PM

    He obviously has not watched much of the trial. Every one of the prosecution’s witnesses wound up supporting the defense more than the prosecution and most of them did it before the defense lawyer said a word. This should have never been charged and originally wasn’t until some people and the media manipulated this case into some sort of racial Valhalla. In the course of the trial, they have proven absolutely nothing of contention. In fact, the prosecutor’s have been able to do a heck of a job providing multiple theories as to what actually happened. (Think about that for a second) The prosecution has essentially provided “reasonable doubt” for the defense. If Zimmerman is convicted, it will likely be due to the fear of outbursts or riots by those looking to convict due to the race of the victim.

  56. thestrategyexpert says: Jul 11, 2013 4:20 PM

    brillz:

    I don’t think you recall the facts of the non-emergency call. That guy wasn’t even a cop and he gave no orders to Zimmerman because he wasn’t allowed to due to his work liability rules.

    It doesn’t matter why or what Zimmerman did anyhow, as the Defense Attorney pointed out, Zimmerman could have done much worse and still not broken the law. He could have walked right up to Trayvon and got in his face and mouthed off and it would have still been self defense. The moment that the gun went off is the spot when you have to analyze who was in compliance of the law, and at that moment all of the facts support that Zimmerman was and Trayvon was in violation. He was the instigator of aggression and conflict at the moment that legally counted.

    If you don’t like the law, then complain about it as you should. The laws are poorly written for complex cases like this and if there’s anything to learn about this case is that the legal system in the state of Florida and in this country and the entire system of Law and Order need to be improved. That’s what this case is about, and it should not be at Zimmeran’s inconvenience. He is a hero for how he has handled himself during this tough matter as society’s scapegoat to make excuses for what’s really wrong in this country.

    And it’s not manslaughter either under self-defense laws either. So not even that. He should walk and then he should sue the state of Florida and target in excess of a $10MM judgment to send a message and punish the people who did all this unjust harm to him and violated society’s trust and Mr. Zimmerman’s rights.

    The state of Florida deserves to pay through the nose on this one, and they will.

  57. footballfanatic666 says: Jul 11, 2013 4:24 PM

    If Martin were not killed… would he have been arrested for assault??? It is clear that he would have been. His actions were criminal and he was shot because of his assault actions… It is a clear cut example that the unfortunate death was a result of Martin’s own criminal behavior…

  58. ravens4lifeudig says: Jul 11, 2013 4:27 PM

    Also if Martin would have shown respect / submitted / Chill’d / Relaxed / Put his hands up / identified himself as the son of a resident…any number of things to not in Zimms mind put Zimms in fear. Then Martin would still be here.

    @kmack831 since when are you suppose to answer to any not in a uniform!!!!! Last I check the watcher are watchers not chaser not questionnaire . Zimmerman should have identified him self instead of chasing him. And since when do watchers carry guns. His intentions wasn’t good

  59. k9krap says: Jul 11, 2013 4:29 PM

    Please. Marcus doesn’t even realize that the time that Michael served was for gambling, not animal cruelty.

  60. damcmp says: Jul 11, 2013 4:30 PM

    Why do they let that ignorant criminal racist fool have a twitter account….does he scribble in crayon and one of his smarter homies types it in for him?????? Marcus is such a brother’s coattail riding ignoramus !!!!!!!

  61. mancave001 says: Jul 11, 2013 4:30 PM

    Any educated person watching the trial and studying the facts knows there is NO WAY the prosecution has proven even manslaughter much less murder 2. Reasonable doubt is everywhere, and virtually all witnesses were a total disaster for the prosecution.

  62. bleedeaglegreen says: Jul 11, 2013 4:36 PM

    Brenda Vick-Boddie should be sooo proud of her two sons. One is an animal torturing, herpes spreading scumbag & the other is a statutory raping, constantly in trouble fool.

    Forget how much their incidental athletic ability has gotten them money wise; the true measure of a man is what he’s made up of mentally & his values.

    Her sons are rotten lousy scum. She really did a great job instilling a sense of right & wrong to these two dim-wits.

    Dogs have more values & smarts than both of these “human beings”. Yes Marcus, in the case of your family (and race has nothing to do with it), dog’s lives are worth more!

  63. kmack831 says: Jul 11, 2013 4:37 PM

    @Ravens4life….

    Just the way i was raised… if im not doing anything wrong. Why run. Why double back to Attack someone?

    If you show respect, and you stop and say “excuse me, Who are you? Why are you Following me?” I have 911 on the Phone…

    Maybe you dont end up 6 feet under….

    But thats what i would have done, not try to attack someone that is following you. Try to Stop them by Yelling at them. Asking them Why. Calling 5-0

    especially in an area were someone could Rob or Kill you… You keep your distance, you call the cop, you try to figure out Who-What-Where-Why… You be ready to defend yourself…

  64. footballfanatic666 says: Jul 11, 2013 4:39 PM

    @ravens4lifeudig… Zimmerman’s action of carrying a gun was not criminal… was Martin’s assault of Zimmerman criminal??? That is the question…. there was no evidence presented that he was chasing Martin… he at times was following him… which is not against the law neither.

  65. miletogo88 says: Jul 11, 2013 4:39 PM

    I usually enjoy reading posts on this site, but this topic has brought out some virulently racist commentary. For a child to be profiled, stalked and murdered for merely walking down the street is horrifically tragic. And to submit posts in support of that is really sad and disturbing; more sad and disturbing than the usual ridiculousness of Marcus Vick!

  66. dexterismyhero says: Jul 11, 2013 4:39 PM

    @officialSanfordspokesperson says:Jul 11, 2013 4:11 PM
    Hey America what ever happened to catching a good old fashioned, passionate a$$ whipping? You follow someone —get your butt kicked—-kill them and claim self defense.
    Trayvon was 5’11 158. THE SIZE OF DESEAN JACKSON R U KIDDING ME?
    ==================================

    He won’t be guilty of 2nd degree murder. If he does get convicted of the lesser charge it will be turned over on appeal I believe. Then you can go get your big screeen TV from the local store. Idiot!

  67. thestrategyexpert says: Jul 11, 2013 4:45 PM

    mancave001:

    And actually I think it was possible for the prosecution to win on something if they had a better strategy. There was a guy on Nancy Grace or one of the other shows that had broken down how he would have not used the Zimmerman tapes which basically helped Zimmerman testify without getting cross-examined. He suggested they could have nearly forced the Defense’s hand to put him up there and then have a much better position to work from.

    The Prosecution team has made all kinds of mistakes in this trial, including that really embarrassing moment when Bernie didn’t know how Twitter worked and thought he stumbled on the Holy Grail. That was really pathetic. That Richard Mantei seemed like the only good attorney that they have. He’s a feisty son of a gun, I hear he is new.

  68. lawchick35 says: Jul 11, 2013 4:46 PM

    Marcus Vick is correct. Zimmerman cannot follow or persue someone then claim self defense. Zimmerman wouldn’t have gotten his ass whooped if hed left Trayvon Martin alone. Hed already called the police. You biased Zimmerman supporters would be up in arms if Trayvon Martin shot & killed him, you would be up in arms. Trayvon didn’t have to respond to a stranger, that DIDN’T identify himself to him. You’re the same ppl that claim Ray Lewis was guilty.

  69. officialmiamidolphinsspokesperson says: Jul 11, 2013 4:47 PM

    lol and just so y’all know…black people are also confused as to how OJ walked. That one stumped EVERYONE

  70. reesesteel23 says: Jul 11, 2013 4:50 PM

    Its simple really.
    Black folks scream racism every time something happens to a black person(Sometimes understandable) . AT THE SAME TIME, White folks HATE HATE HATE when people (mostly of color) stand up to what they believe in and not just lie down(Again, somewhat understandable). THIS is when White folks start that very strong support system to help, free or clear the name of the supposed “racist” person.

    See: Zim Case
    See: Washington Redskin case

    Last fact. If the Media would have never called Zim a White Hispanic, hardly any white folks would have supported Zimmerman, let alone defend him, let alone even Click on the story when everything first happened. If they had just called him Hispanic….this here article would not even exist. Somone please argue these things with me. (specifically someone unbiased and realizes they have nothing to gain by supporting 1 side over the other)

  71. southpaw79 says: Jul 11, 2013 4:52 PM

    Hey Marcus, lets us give you a ride to the trial so you can learn some of the facts, I heard Hernandez has a seat open in his car for you.

  72. jacunn2000 says: Jul 11, 2013 4:52 PM

    That picture speaks 1000 words.

  73. santolonius says: Jul 11, 2013 4:53 PM

    Not to support Marcus Vick because I don’t. But one small point of order… it is possible to fire warning shots into the ground, they do not have to be fired into the air.

  74. westlaw1 says: Jul 11, 2013 4:53 PM

    Thestrategyexpert – you do not start the analysis for self-defense at the time the shot occurred. Self-defense is an analysis of reasonable actions. The analysis starts as soon as these two individuals cross paths. They are required to act reasonably, and can use reasonably force when faces with threats.

    The prosecution wants to convince the jury that events started long before the shot, while the defense wants to focus only on what happens immediately before the shot.

    It is reasonably to shoot someone bashing your head into concrete. It is also reasonable to throw a punch at someone who has followed you for 10 minutes, through three 90 degree turns, and after getting out of a car to follow you down between building on a rainy night.

    Martin had a right to self defense first, only when his actions become unreasonable did Zimmerman have a right to self defense.

    Hint. Zimmerman wasn’t getting his head smashed into concrete when he shot, and you can’t yell bloody murder if your nose and mouth are full of blood, and some is covering your nose and mouth with a hand.

  75. cospgsmadman says: Jul 11, 2013 4:55 PM

    I feel bad for Michael (well, now I do).
    He screwed up royally but paid his debt to society. Cost him millions of bucks.Missed time on the field in his prime. I think he just wants his dumb brother to shut up. That’s why I feel bad for him

  76. reesesteel23 says: Jul 11, 2013 4:56 PM

    The fact of the matter is: People of color have to have a support system. If they do not, the support will come from nowhere.

    BUT

    Black folks need to stop crying racism so much. period.
    White folks need to stop getting so angry just because people’s voices, opinions and complaints are heard more nowadays. period.

    As soon as this happened, people started picking sides like elementary kickball teams JUST because they know/can relate more to one side than the other

  77. thestrategyexpert says: Jul 11, 2013 5:05 PM

    westlaw1:

    Oh indeed good point and I do agree. Sorry my post here I only consider to be unofficial forum comment banter, and it is not formatted to represent a full and complete opinion for use in a courtroom. I was just trying to zero in on one key point and took some shortcuts to keep my post brief, sorry for the short-sighted analysis.

  78. westlaw1 says: Jul 11, 2013 5:05 PM

    One witness testified that Martin had reasonable apprehension of harm, and that he was confronted by someone, that he responded verbally, and asked for someone to “get off.”

    Multiple witnesses testified that Zimmerman followed Martin throw three change of directions, armed, on a rainy night, and got out of his car to follow.

    Another witness testified that she heard an argument on the left side of her house, that the argument moved to the right of her house where Martin died, and that the screams of help began on the right side of her house. That is away from the sidewalk and after the confrontation allegedly began.

    Zimmerman admitted that Martin said that Zimmerman was going to die after the fight reached a point where Zimmerman believes that Martin found Zimmerman’s gun.

    If Martin had a right to reasonable self-defense that is limited to punching, the level if reasonable self-defense can escalate after determining that Zimmerman was armed with a gun.

    Zimmerman is only in the right if you think that Martin had no right of self-defense. If Martin had a right to self-defense – the question is did he use reasonable force.

    Martin should not have been arrested or charged with assault if you think he had reasonable grounds to believe he was in a position to be harmed by Zimmerman and you believe the level of force was reasonable.

  79. stlunatik says: Jul 11, 2013 5:05 PM

    he got what he deserved, flat out.

  80. w0rkh0lic1 says: Jul 11, 2013 5:12 PM

    Anyone who talks about this case being about a black kid being shot to death is racist. This is about the death of a human being, the race or ethnicity of the person is irrelevant. Whether Zimmerman is convicted or not doesn’t change that this is a sad story that came to a tragic and unfortunatly end.

    I’m sick and tired of people trying to make this a race issue. IF Zimmermam was a racist and it motivated his shooting, that is a sad thing. But everyone who wants to move past racist thinking and keeps talking about this from a racist standpoint is merely reinforcing those lines of thinking… Sounds to me like Marcus Vick is the racist one. He also sounds like a sadistic and cruel individual for wanting physical harm to come to another person. I’m understand that the justice system will issue whatever punishment is deserving based on the facts if the case…. Sounds like Marcus Vick is a crazy Sadistic Racist individual to me.

  81. patriotenvy says: Jul 11, 2013 5:16 PM

    To the guys who think Zimmerman should walk, and shouldn’t even be charged, I pose this question…Why did he get out of his car when he was admonished not to, and then pursue the kid? Get his a$$ handed to him by a 17 year old, who he then has to shoot? Murder, probably not, manslaughter, most definitely.

    ——————-
    The report I heard was that he was walking back to his car when the kid attacked him.
    Self Defense. He shouldn’t even be up on these charges, but Obama wants to continue to divide the nation, so he chimed in on this select case and forced it to go to court.

    Which side of this debate is more likely to riot if they don’t get their way?
    That speaks volumes alone.

  82. sbdt says: Jul 11, 2013 5:22 PM

    I wasn’t emotionally prepared to hear from Marcus Vick today.

  83. silotech says: Jul 11, 2013 5:23 PM

    refer to the young lady who on the stand didn’t think “crazzy ass cracker” was a racist term. black people are by far the most bias racists and in Marcus’s case he’s a racist, bitter and one really stupid individual. Michael will be out of the league soon and we won’t hear anything about Marcus until he breaks the law and gets thrown in the….and I will be glad.

  84. westlaw1 says: Jul 11, 2013 5:24 PM

    Race was interjected in this for one reason one reason only. Nobody can understand why Zimmerman did what he did. If you don’t understand someone’s actions, people come out with their own reason for it.

    If Zimmerman had just said, “I don’t trust teenagers.” It’s not illegal to discriminate against children under the age of 18. Then race would never come into this. But he can’t articulate that reason. And that’s not why you follow this kid.

  85. thestrategyexpert says: Jul 11, 2013 5:26 PM

    workholic1:

    There are race issues in play, but only because Trayvon Martin and the State of Florida brought them into play. It was their racist choices and influences that created this trial in the first place. And when it comes time to sue the state, I think you will have those 2 detectives willing to testify further about the racism they saw and the pressures they were faced with to ignore their sense of the law and force a case onto Mr. Zimmerman.

    When injustices like this occur, and racism is used in the process, then the only noble thing to do is stand up against the racism and fight back and deter it from rearing it’s ugly head in the future.

  86. irishdodger says: Jul 11, 2013 5:29 PM

    @bgrillz:

    Fair question. Here’s another one: Zimmerman’s first call was to 911 but Trayvon’s first call was to his girlfriend. Why wouldn’t Trayvon call 911 if he felt as much as in danger as Zimmerman?

  87. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Jul 11, 2013 5:39 PM

    miletogo88 says:Jul 11, 2013 4:39 PM

    I usually enjoy reading posts on this site, but this topic has brought out some virulently racist commentary. For a child to be profiled, stalked and murdered for merely walking down the street is horrifically tragic. And to submit posts in support of that is really sad and disturbing; more sad and disturbing than the usual ridiculousness of Marcus Vick!
    ____

    Nobody supports profiling, stalking, and murdering a child. Some people support sending a man to prison who defended himself with deadly force when he was being attacked. There’s nothing racist about wanting the legal system to work the way it should, but there might be something racist about ignoring all details about a case because the person who was shot happened to be black. Who’s side are you on if a white kid gets shot by a hispanic guy?

  88. honkerdawg says: Jul 11, 2013 5:45 PM

    Why does anybody even care what Marcus Vick thinks. If you ignore him he’ll slowly fade away. What a LOSER!

  89. thestrategyexpert says: Jul 11, 2013 5:50 PM

    Rick Spielman is a Magician:

    If it was a white kid getting shot then this case wouldn’t exist because there wouldn’t be a WAACP pulling political strings to advance the matter and further fuel the fires of race debate for purposes of acquiring more power for their organization. You’ll hear more about the details of the conspiracy a little further down the road. This case is just a stepping stone to much activity in the Florida legal system in more ways than one in the near future.

  90. reesesteel23 says: Jul 11, 2013 5:51 PM

    Apparently not a lot of people here have daughters or wives.

    If I am following your daughter, or wife through a neighborhood in my car,(remember this is perfectly legal!) get out and start following them on foot(remember this is perfectly legal!) carrying a licensed firearm(remember this is perfectly legal!) in the dark, on a rainy night, and asking questions(remember this is perfectly legal!) What in Sam Hill would you want her to do?…Run? (Sorry not getting away)…Try to plead with someone you have no idea about? ( Not sure how that would work) or turn and Kick Him in the Junk when they have the chance? Or do nothing and end up on the front page of CNN?

    But wait, I could even sue!!! I did nothing wrong!!! She assaulted Me!!!

  91. bookofelisha10 says: Jul 11, 2013 6:01 PM

    Zimmerman deserves jail..how would you feel had you been walking home from the store..to have a guy follow you around then get out and look for you.. i would of beat him up to.

    but noone cares for marcus vicks opinion..if he wasnt such a piece of sh!t in society already maybe people would of took his opinion seriously.

  92. thestrategyexpert says: Jul 11, 2013 6:07 PM

    reesesteel23:

    Well what I would NOT want her to do would be some of things that Trayon Martin might have done, such as walk up and say threatening words, or indicate a violent intent or posture, and physically attempt to strike or cause harm to the person. I would want my daughter to avoid doing anything illegal or potentially confrontational while assessing which of those other options she should pick.

    But those options don’t matter if you forfeit them with an illegal and dangerous and illogical action first. And I would do everything in my power to raise my daughter to follow logical and lawful decision making throughout her lifetime.

  93. silotech says: Jul 11, 2013 6:10 PM

    it’s posted as a neighborhood watch area. if you aren’t doing anything wrong then continue walking but be mindful of the distance of the person following you. if you have concerns and you are a youthful person who has the ability to run then do. other options would be to call 911 or confront the person following you and deal with the consequences. Zimmerman was a neighborhood watchman, he by definition will follow strangers in his watch area. Trayvon attacked Zimmerman for following him, poorest of the choices he could have made. he could have called his dad to come to his aid but instead he called a friend cause a crazy ass cracker was following him in a neighborhood watcg area where he didn’t live.

  94. j0esixpack says: Jul 11, 2013 6:11 PM

    In all fairness, Vick’s sentence was 14 years in dog years.

  95. westlaw1 says: Jul 11, 2013 6:19 PM

    Self defense doesn’t begin after the first time some is physically touched. Their is zero evidence that Martin acted threatening towards Zimmerman. The evidence is that Zimmerman called out to Martin, Martin responded…then his phone hit the grass and some type of physical altercation occurred because Martin said “get off.”

    Martin’s first call wasn’t to his girlfriend, he was already on the phone with her before Zimmerman started to follow him.

  96. phillycass says: Jul 11, 2013 6:36 PM

    First off, I’m not a Mike Vick fan, but I do feel bad that he has to deal with his idiot brother stirring things up on twitter.

    Second, I never understood why a fight was necessary. What happened to people just talking things out? Couldn’t they have handled this is a different manner instead of fighting or calling anyone a racial slur on the phone?

    I point my finger at the parenting first.

  97. lllllalaskajack says: Jul 11, 2013 6:39 PM

    WESTLAW1:

    YOUR WORDS: “It is reasonable to throw a punch at someone who has followed you for 10 minutes, through three 90 degree turns, and after getting out of a car to follow you down between building on a rainy night.”

    With a name like Westlaw, you should be aware that there is a legal term for exactly this kind of situation.

    It is called Assault.

    lllll Alaska Jack

  98. westlaw1 says: Jul 11, 2013 6:57 PM

    Um…no that is potentially battery. So throwing a punch is “assault,” but shooting an unarmed kid is merely self-defense.

    I understand where you are coming from.

  99. westlaw1 says: Jul 11, 2013 6:59 PM

    I guess you think that you can talk your way out of a mugging or a rape.

    In Florida is you reasonably believe you are in danger you have the right to respond reasonably. You do not have to wait if them to touch you as long as you have tried to retreat. I would say Martin tried to retreat, and Zimmerman just kept coming.

  100. saintsfan83 says: Jul 11, 2013 7:01 PM

    If Zimmerman was black and Travon was white it a be a done deal he would be sitting on deathrow. And you wouldnt be saying hes innocent than than again you barbarian ancestors of europe dont care if it wasn for the moors you still a be in the medeival times.

  101. westlaw1 says: Jul 11, 2013 7:02 PM

    Assault has a lower threshold than a battery. So it is more reasonable to commit an assault than a battery.

  102. dallascowboysdishingthereal says: Jul 11, 2013 7:14 PM

    This case has a Rodney King feel to it for sure and we know what happened after that verdict. Hoping for justice and no repeat of that protest.

  103. lllllalaskajack says: Jul 11, 2013 7:24 PM

    I will repeat what I said earlier in the thread. There are two types of commenters:

    1. Peoplel like saintsfan83 and westlaw1, who have a general feel for what they think happened and feel SURE Zimmerman must be guilty.

    2. People who have actually followed and understand the nitty-gritty facts of the case, on sites such as legalinsurrection.com and talkleft.com.

    Westlaw, your comments in particular have shown appalling ignorance. For example, you sarcastically write:

    “So throwing a punch is “assault,” but shooting an unarmed kid is merely self-defense.”

    Shooting an unarmed kid absolutely IS self-defense, if this “kid” (your term) is a 17-yo athlete who has publicly bragged about his fighting prowess, and who is currently sitting on your chest raining punches down upon your head in a ground-and-pound. (As testified by impartial eyewitness John Good.)

    Please tell me you’re not a law student.

    lllll Alaska Jack

  104. boyshole25 says: Jul 11, 2013 7:24 PM

    Find your brother ad tell him to shut it or you’ll stop funding the phone that he tweets on! Simple

  105. wtfchiefs says: Jul 11, 2013 7:28 PM

    Does he think Aaron Hernandez is a racist too?

  106. orangecisco says: Jul 11, 2013 7:56 PM

    Ha i see right through you fools trying to distract us with the race card. This is nothing more than this country’s obsession with this “good guy with a gun” myth. He showed a history of paranoia, frequently called 911, and was tired of, what was in his mind, cops not doing enough. So he took matters into his own hands, tried to intimidate trayvon and it backfired on him. Will the jury equate that with premeditated murder? Probably not but manslaughter is certainly on the table.

  107. ganja4all says: Jul 11, 2013 7:59 PM

    Mr. Vick, sir, you behave as if you are profoundly ignorant. People will think better of you if you do not speak.
    If you need to speak out about social injustice, please comment on the never ending parade of black people shooting and killing black people in Chicago. Approximately 60 people were shot over the July 4th, holiday weekend. Will you recommend that 30+ years for all the Chicago shooters is needed? Will you recommend the same hate and violence for those individuals? There is a difference between self defence and just plain stupid behavior. Your brother will benefit if you just go away.

  108. bookofelisha10 says: Jul 11, 2013 8:04 PM

    where was big tuff twitter warrior when Donte stallworth killed a husbund and father drunk driving?

    or where was this superhero when ray lewis stabbed 2 guys or how about when josh brent killed his friend driving.

    or where was supervick recently when hernandez killed a black man…

    ahh yeah mr tough mann.

  109. FinFan68 says: Jul 11, 2013 8:05 PM

    @reesesteel23:

    By changing the gender your example becomes completely irrelevant. The obvious answer to your hypothetical scenario would be for her to do what most people would do if they feel threatened in the manner you describe. She could use her cell phone and call the police…just like Zimmerman did.

    Are you not curious as to why Martin called his GF and then chose to confront Zimmerman rather than call the police? BTW, if the answer is some sort of cultural fear of the police I am calling BS. We can what if the circumstances until we turn blue but it changes nothing. For every “If Zimmerman would have stayed in his car…” There is a “If Martin would have just called the police, or just continued home, or…” After listening to the testimony of just the witnesses for the prosecution one can reasonably deduce that murder 2 was in no way proven.

    It seems to me that the murder 2 was an intentional overreach to placate the racial crowd who demanded justice. In doing so their strategy seems to be hoping for a jury decision that will settle for manslaughter in some twisted sense of justice for both sides.

  110. jackericsson says: Jul 11, 2013 8:14 PM

    Vicks are the pride of Hampton Roads and Va Tech!

  111. dontbuttslapyourlawyer says: Jul 11, 2013 8:24 PM

    I’m sorry……ummm who’s Marcus Vick?

  112. eagle4lyfe says: Jul 11, 2013 8:35 PM

    Ignorance is a bliss and apparently all u guys attend the university

  113. laserw says: Jul 11, 2013 9:37 PM

    Zimmerman did not chase down Trayvon Martin Obama.

    The younger and even dumber Vick sibling needs to get his facts correct.

    How is it that Trayvon Obama could make a phone call and utter racist remarks about crackas and NEVER call the police? Oh, wait – we all know black people and the police never mix. So let’s just let that urban racist excuse just simmer.

    How is it that Trayvon Obama did not go straight home? He actually did change direction and went after Zimmerman – the testimony proves that.

    America would be better off with the Vicks in jail for life and turned into someone’s wench.

  114. crookbythebook says: Jul 11, 2013 9:53 PM

    I agree with Marcus … Black life > Dog life

  115. thenew013 says: Jul 11, 2013 10:11 PM

    just another government setup and reason to take your guns.

  116. ken14andersonforhof says: Jul 11, 2013 10:18 PM

    any votes for O.J SIMPSON for head coach of the NFL prison team?

  117. GenXJay says: Jul 11, 2013 10:45 PM

    eagle4lyfe says:
    “Ignorance is a bliss and apparently all u guys attend the university”
    _________________________

    Yeah, an educated perspective on the matter is more right than your false opinions.

  118. realninerfan22 says: Jul 11, 2013 11:10 PM

    All the hate is unreal.. Team OJ…

  119. matt24bucs says: Jul 11, 2013 11:10 PM

    Marcus Vick—militant raciast.

  120. patriotenvy says: Jul 11, 2013 11:23 PM

    The thing is a lot of people think Zimmerman is white. If he had saved a kid from drowning or something he would be reported as a hispanic man.
    The people that are in the bliss are the ones that think conflicting reports of what happened in the leagal system means you are guilty. Guilty until proven innocent when it suits their agenda.

    “If you stare into the abyss long enough the abyss stares back at you” look up it’s meaning.

  121. silicateblue says: Jul 11, 2013 11:54 PM

    Um, for what it is worth…the jury instruction will include language that says that they are free to consider whether Zimmerman provoked the altercation by following Martin on the night of the shooting.

  122. saintsfan83 says: Jul 12, 2013 12:48 AM

    Like i said if the kid was white Zimmerman a be on deathrow right now and last time i check i can voice my opinion you hypocrit Alaska whatever your name is. Racism is alive in this country and will always be so keep patting yourself on your back about knowing the law. What i know a innocent kid got killed walking home. All parents tell there kids dont talk to strangers.Hell if a strange man chase me down tryna stop me walkn home in the dark im going to bash his head into. I have a son and i dont care what explanation was given i would put that filth to rest a do my time with a smile on my face!!!!!!

  123. goraidersgospurs says: Jul 12, 2013 3:19 AM

    I wish everyone that is sticking up for Zim would be in the kid parents shoes, what would you do seriously????

  124. joetoronto says: Jul 12, 2013 6:21 AM

    The only reason Zimmerman is even in court is because of race, what a joke.

  125. tahjay says: Jul 12, 2013 6:48 AM

    A black mother of three in FL with no criminal record was just sentenced to 30 years for firing a warning shot into a wall after feeling threatened. So a wall, and a dog, are seemingly more valuable in America than a teenager, oh excuse me, a black teenager.

  126. gatewaystud says: Jul 12, 2013 9:10 AM

    First off all u people sound STUPID, without any doubt.. A 29yr old man pursued a 17teen year old boy… After the LAW told him not to..Afterwards a kid is dead… What person with common sense feels it is no wrong in that is STUPID..and im showing dignity by saying stupid.. an adult should act as one….AMERICA has alot of history with judging people by the color of they skin and not the content of they chacacter… be 4real… and you A HOLES.. are just plain out A-HOLES…

  127. silotech says: Jul 12, 2013 9:49 AM

    most of the people I know “sticking up” for Zimmerman understand he shot and killed a young man but it wasn’t murder. he’s part of a neighborhood watch. Trayvon could have avoided the situation by continue walking to his dad’s apt. he could have called his dad to come meet him but instead he called his friend about a crazy ass cracker following him and then he jumped Zimmerman. he cornered a snake and the snake bite him. it wasn’t murder. Zimmerman failed when he crowded Trayvon after calling 911.

  128. gatewaystud says: Jul 12, 2013 10:05 AM

    Exactly neighborhood WATCH… call and report not follow and shoot.. get it right… i dont know no neighborhood watch that carry guns.. the only thing thats clear is that it would have been avoided if he had listen to the police when they said leave it alone.. what right did he have to take the law in his own hands..none… so stop being stupid with your comments because youll know what it is…. if he was a white teen he would have backed off…

  129. jman81 says: Jul 12, 2013 10:16 AM

    why is it that if a black guy gets killed by another race its always racisim? lots of races were slaves you don’t hear anyone else complaining anymore. move on already

  130. dkarras84 says: Jul 12, 2013 4:02 PM

    If u followed someone who was suspicious and he turned around and shot u that’s sounds like self defense not the other way around how does the person following someone claim self defense and I agree Marcus Vick needs to be quiet

  131. silotech says: Jul 12, 2013 4:43 PM

    Trayvon jumped Zimmerman from behind out of the dark when Zimmerman tried to see where he went. we’ll know soon. the four minutes, Travvon on top, Zimmerman’s head wounds and the crazy ass cracker comment to friend instead of calling 911 or his dad will play a big part in the verdict.

  132. FinFan68 says: Jul 12, 2013 9:20 PM

    Wow. There are a bunch of you that have no idea what the facts are (as testified to by witnesses on both sides and the recorded calls to 911). The cops never told Zimmerman to stop, cease or desist. They said “we don’t need you to do that”. That is much different than “Do not do that”. Several of you state that Martin was simply an innocent kid walking home. He was meandering through a neighborhood in the rain “looking at all the houses” according to the 911 call BEFORE the incident (not after somebody needed a story that sounded good after a shooting). Please use some common sense. Martin was no angel and has a history of violent acts drug use and disciplinary issues at school. The testimony shows Martin confronted Zimmerman initially. That is when the situation escalated and the kid wound up dead. It is tragic but the reality is Trayvon Martin had a hand in his own death. Race should not be an issue but it is the sole reason this case even went to court. They could not and did not prove murder or manslaughter and they have the added burden of DISPROVING self defense and failed to prove that as well.

  133. bosspower says: Jul 12, 2013 9:46 PM

    There is no way Zimmerman walks out of this. He was a flashlight cop who had no business engaging a young boy based on a profile of ppl he thought was breaking in. The fact that he was not charged at all was a gross miscarriage of justice. He killed a minor, he should be tried on 2nd degree murder, child endangerment, child abuse, man slaughter, and assault charges. Now the Jury is deliberating on how many charges he will be found guilty on. Let this be a lesson flashlight cops, U observe and Report like a good flashlight cop is supposed to do. Dispatch tell you stay in your vehicle, you stay in your vehicle. Marcus feels like Vick was targeted and made an example of because of race, so he is gonna say things that have racial overtones. ((I mean Big Ben did rape 2 girls and was never charged)) IJS that’s how he feels. Everybody thinks its stupid until they get put in that position where they feel it is more to it than just the case. Mike Vick paid his dues and has obviously learned his lesson so far.

  134. edgerinn says: Jul 12, 2013 10:28 PM

    A lot of people seem to be taking Zimmerman and his defense team’s version of events as the gospel truth. I don’t know that I could convict him of murder, but I’m sure as hell not going to applaud the man.

  135. zn0rseman says: Jul 13, 2013 12:56 AM

    mrtreyseven says:

    if you all watch the case as y’all suggest for him you would see if Zimmerman never left his vehicle this situation would never had happened. You believe a grown puggy man can get penned down by a 5’11 158 lbs. boy what its not logical everyone blames the kid but what human wouldn’t be a little distressed if a strange man is following him at night

    ————-
    People like you are the problem. Almost everything you just said is completely false.

    The only thing you said was that if George Zimmerman had stayed in his car, this would never have happened. That is true, but is ultimately not realistic. George is a neighborhood watch volunteer. It was his duty to investigate a suspicious man in his neighborhood. Had Martin not been acting suspiciously, by wandering between and behind people’s homes in the rain, this would never have happened either. It also would never have happened if Martin had just gone home. It also would not have happened if Martin hadn’t attacked and brutally beaten George Zimmerman. In other words, Martin was the one who made multiple mistakes which led to his death. Zimmerman was just doing what was right.

    Your other facts are horribly wrong. George Zimmerman is 5’10” and over weight. Trayvon Martin was 6’2″ and in shape. He could easily overpower the smaller, older and out of shape Zimmerman.

    Trayvon Martin was also no boy. The picture the press kept showing of him (which made him look like a young and innocent youth) was from 5 years ago when he was 12. He was a 6’2″ 17 year old man with tattoos who had been kicked out of school for drugs.

    Martin attacked a man who was an upstanding citizen. A man with a job and a family who volunteered for the neighborhood watch to benefit his community. I for one would much prefer to have a man like him in my community, regardless of race.

  136. sam197418 says: Jul 13, 2013 4:26 AM

    Hey might not think before he tweets but that prick zimmerman better get convicted for something. If he’s so innocent why did he lie about little things. The recording from when he called the cops told me everything i needed to know he told on his own dumb ass. I hope if he don’t get convicted someone gets his ass. Karma is a bit*h and he will get what he deserves.

  137. silotech says: Jul 13, 2013 11:22 AM

    almost all that I have seen that favors Zimmerman has been that he didn’t murder Trayvon. he took his neighborhood watch serious cuz the complex had had lots of break-ins. Trayvon jumped and he shot him. I haven’t been convinced one way or the other if Trayvon threatened or if Zimmerman was just trigger happy cuz he was scared but I absolutely don’t believe Zimmerman stalked Trayvon to shoot and kill him.

  138. FinFan68 says: Jul 13, 2013 11:48 AM

    @bosspower,
    Nice rant but completely oblivious to the facts. Martin was not a “young boy” in the sense that he was a helpless child. He was 6’2″ and had a history of violent confrontations, drug usage and other disciplinary issues. Zimmerman NEVER confronted or engaged Martin. He did exactly what you claim “flashlight cops” are supposed to do. He observed and reported. Martin confronted him (as testified by the prosecution’s star witness/Martin’s girlfriend and Zimmerman himself in multiple statements/interviews) and punched him in the face and slammed his head on the concrete. Dispatch never told Zimmerman to stay in his vehicle either. That’s just a rewording of what actually happened in order to make it look like Zimmerman was the aggressor and ignored direct orders from the cops. That’s just not the case no matter how badly you or others want it to be so “justice” can be served. Justice would be the exoneration of Zimmerman. It is tragic that a life was lost but both Zimmerman and Martin collectively caused the confrontation. Zimmerman was attacked and defended himself. Martin lost his life in the process.

  139. dallascowboysdishingthereal says: Jul 15, 2013 12:53 AM

    Vick asked Marcus to please shut the f-u.

  140. patriots420 says: Jul 15, 2013 2:14 AM

    I want to know answers to other pressing questions such as how did Trayvon get money for his skittles? Did he a.). jack some old lady’s purse b.) sell crack to some junkie c.) just steal them the old fashion way putting them in his hoodie pocket he was wearing in southern Florida.

    I think this Zimmerman fellow is a moron but he did save the taxpayers hundred of thousands of dollars we would have to pay the future Trayvon in food stamps, welfare, public housing, this not including his likely 3+ offspring to provide for them for at least 18 years maybe longer, thus continuing the vicious cycle.

    In all serious though, for the 2 days I’ve been following this case it sickens me how the NAACP has turned this into such a racist issue. This case and the NAACP is why this country truly is not over race issues, it is 90% them keeping it alive for self benefit. The other 10% is unorganized racist rednecks.

  141. silotech says: Jul 15, 2013 12:17 PM

    the NAACP has to choose wisely their Rosa Parks. Trayvon was shot dead in a fight, he was not murdered. he was followed by a neighborhood watch foreman not stalked by a killer

  142. robgilman says: Jul 17, 2013 2:25 PM

    Zimmerman was raised as a Catholic, in a family that his father has described as “multiracial;” his father is a white American of German descent and his mother is Peruvian with some black ancestry through her Afro-Peruvian maternal grandfather. Zimmerman’s voter registration record lists him as Hispanic and a registered Democrat.

    Extremely absurd that groups like the NAACP are still searching for excuses to blame things on race.

  143. silotech says: Jul 17, 2013 4:16 PM

    it appears to me Al Sharpen and company are using this as a diversion to get something bigger cuz there’s no way they win this. the anti-gun people are piggy backing. had Zimmerman hit and killed Trayvon with a heavy flashlite we would lose 1/4 the protestors and if Trayvon was white we’d lose ~70%.

  144. ajlafrance says: Jul 18, 2013 3:39 PM

    I don’t think George Zimmerman is racist. I don’t think this was ever really about racism.

    I DO think that George Zimmerman was an idiot. As a member of the Neighborhood Watch, he had no business having a gun with him. He also had no business even approaching Travon Martin. If he didn’t have a gun, there’s no way he would’ve gotten out of his car to follow Travon Martin. Stand Your Ground laws don’t give you the right to create a situation in which you are forced to stand your ground. And getting your a** kicked is not a life threatening situation.

    The whole problem is that Zimmerman was overzealous. My dad was in the Neighborhood Watch when I was a kid. He was exactly the same way. Looking back, I could see how this situation could easily have happened to him. I think a major issue that needs to be addressed by the police is that they need to really screen people that seek out membership in groups like the Neighborhood Watch.

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