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Bears had talked Cutler deal pre-Trestman hire

Marc Trestman, Jay Cutler AP

The Bears kicked the can down the road a year with Henry Melton, failing to reach a long-term contract with their franchise-tagged defensive tackle.

Likewise, they elected to wait to do a deal with quarterback Jay Cutler after some degree of talks.

According to Vaughn McClure of the Chicago Tribune, the Bears had previously discussed a deal that would have paid Cutler around $15 million per year. But those discussions were before they hired coach Marc Trestman.

While it’s hard to argue that Matt Stafford deserves that kind of money and Cutler doesn’t (though Cutler doesn’t have the Bears over the same financial barrel), it does create an interesting dynamic for the Bears.

Their quarterback’s in a prove-it year financially, with a coach he has no background with, who may be deciding if they can work together well.

Cutler’s due to make $8.97 million this year, the final year of his contract. To his credit, he hasn’t created a stink about his contract situation, saying in April “You’ve got to win games to earn those contracts.”

And apparently, you have to impress the new boss.

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36 Responses to “Bears had talked Cutler deal pre-Trestman hire”
  1. briang123 says: Jul 16, 2013 11:44 AM

    Don’t worry. When he struggles and throws more dumb INTs, his agent will be front and center blaming his bad play on his contract situation.

  2. gbmickey says: Jul 16, 2013 11:46 AM

    With a new coach and Cutler acting like an impetulant child at times I can understand why they would want to wait as a coaching staff. As much potential as Cutler has he thusfar has been unable be consistant or just take over a game and when things dont go his way he regresses mentally.

  3. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Jul 16, 2013 11:46 AM

    Apparently you don’t have to win games to earn those contracts, since Stafford got one.

  4. vdogg says: Jul 16, 2013 12:04 PM

    Megatron would make Sanchez look like a real QB too…..Stafford has talent but he’s not winning games, his stats got padded by the unbelievable season Megatron put together. Cutler had 1 more TD and quite a few more wins with Marshall. But it took Stafford about 1000 more yards to get that one TD and 8 fewer wins.

  5. rawbbqsauce says: Jul 16, 2013 12:09 PM

    It’s frustrating to see people react by saying they shouldn’t pay him. He has superior arm talent. It’s not like QBs are a dime-a-dozen. Give Cutler a decent O-line and good scheme and he’s a different player.

  6. stevejjones says: Jul 16, 2013 12:24 PM

    They only imaginable reason that the Bears wouldn’t resign Cutler is someone else beats them to it.

  7. CKL says: Jul 16, 2013 12:28 PM

    If they want to keep him, they are going to be paying him (IMO) too much money as far as the ranks of his position anyway. Other Qbs have gotten the same benefit. That’s the nature of having a decent aged talented QB whether they’ve shown their talent with stellar play or not. So it’s hard to blame the Bears for waiting.

    People may forget, in Denver, Cutler had one of the best playcallers and designers of offense in the whole NFL in Shanahan, a great OL, and a very nice group of skill players and he still tossed INTS like beads at mardi gras. At this point, I think that’s just who he is. If Trestman is wise, he will work around that high INT tendency to maximize his talents (much like Payton with Brees). We’ll see.

    To me, Cutler is a talented QB, not a great one. The money paid them seldom shows that distinction though. and I’m not slamming Cutler, believe me. I think a decent amount of QBs are capable of helping a team win a SB and he could be one of them. To this point, he hasn’t shown it though because of his tendency at times to make bad situations on the field worse with bad decision making.

  8. hatesycophants says: Jul 16, 2013 12:30 PM

    I am no longer stunned by fans who lack basic cognitive skills.

    Take away Cutler’s #1 WR and what are his stats? See how that works?

  9. formyministy says: Jul 16, 2013 12:43 PM

    take away megatron from stafford’s stats, and matthew threw for 3000 yards and 15 touchdowns.
    take away brandon marshall from cutler’s stats, and jay is left with 1525 yards and 8 touchdowns.
    -so tell me again which quarterback is made by his star wide receiver and would be nothing without him?

  10. maddbearfan says: Jul 16, 2013 12:45 PM

    Especially when the offensive line is offensive in their playing abilities.

  11. joemontanaflaccid says: Jul 16, 2013 12:52 PM

    8 Megatrons

  12. joemontanaflaccid says: Jul 16, 2013 12:53 PM

    4 Megatrons wouldn’t make Sanchez look good !

  13. vdogg says: Jul 16, 2013 12:53 PM

    @formyministy

    Stafford also had 300 more passing attempts….is this really an argument?

  14. jaykray says: Jul 16, 2013 12:56 PM

    Didn’t the Vikings have a couple of pick-6′s against him last year?

  15. Indybear says: Jul 16, 2013 1:05 PM

    gbmickey says:Jul 16, 2013 11:46 AM

    With a new coach and Cutler acting like an impetulant child at times I can understand why they would want to wait as a coaching staff. As much potential as Cutler has he thusfar has been unable be consistant or just take over a game and when things dont go his way he regresses mentally.
    _________________________________

    You obviously don’t watch many of the games. Those being the ones where he is running for his life and STILL manages to make a play or complete a pass. Anyone who knows someone who has diabetes would wonder how is able to even play the game, much less be competitive.

    By the way, neither “impetulant” nor “consistant” are real words.

  16. formyministy says: Jul 16, 2013 1:12 PM

    vdogg says:
    Jul 16, 2013 12:53 PM
    @formyministy

    Stafford also had 300 more passing attempts….is this really an argument?
    ————–

    i guess it could be an argument if you didn’t try changing what it’s about…
    cutler got more of his stats from throwing to one player (marshall) than stafford got from throwing to one player (megatron). without marshall, cutler’s numbers are worse than stafford without megatron. i thought that was pretty open and shut.

    now, if you want to make the case that throwing less makes you a better quarterback, go ahead…but 1500 yards and 8 touchdowns hasn’t been recognized as a “good year” for a quarterback as long as i’ve been alive.

  17. formyministy says: Jul 16, 2013 1:16 PM

    vdogg says:
    Jul 16, 2013 12:53 PM
    @formyministy

    Stafford also had 300 more passing attempts….is this really an argument?
    ——

    stafford also had 180 more completions…

  18. walkinginthewasteland says: Jul 16, 2013 1:17 PM

    Megatron would make Sanchez look like a real QB too…..
    ___________

    Not quite. There are some QBs even God can’t legitimize (see Kordell Stewart).

  19. 52lightsxout52 says: Jul 16, 2013 1:20 PM

    Cutler probably said “Get me an offensive-minded coach or I’m walking…”

  20. CKL says: Jul 16, 2013 1:22 PM

    If they want to keep him, they are going to be paying him (IMO) too much money as far as the ranks of his position anyway. Other Qbs have gotten the same benefit. That’s the nature of having a decent aged talented QB whether they’ve shown their talent with stellar play or not. So it’s hard to blame the Bears for waiting.

    People may forget, in Denver, Cutler had one of the best playcallers and designers of offense in the whole NFL in Shanahan, a great OL, and a very nice group of skill players and he still tossed INTS like beads at mardi gras. At this point, I think that’s just who he is. If Trestman is wise, he will work around that high INT tendency to maximize his talents (much like Payton with Brees). We’ll see.

    To me, Cutler is a talented QB, not a great one. The money paid them seldom shows that distinction though. and I’m not slamming Cutler, believe me. I think a decent amount of QBs are capable of helping a team win a SB and he could be one of them. To this point, he hasn’t shown it though because of his tendency at times to make bad situations on the field worse with bad decision making.

  21. ccjcsr says: Jul 16, 2013 1:27 PM

    The critical analyst in me says, Cutler will hold the Bears by the short and curlys, who else are they going to turn to?

  22. thestrategyexpert says: Jul 16, 2013 1:35 PM

    The best Cutler deal would have been the deal where they trade him to somebody else and get paid in the process of finding a great long-term QB. Next year’s draft could have been a good time to target a QB. But they have to find a way to clear out Cutler.

  23. gooch80 says: Jul 16, 2013 2:26 PM

    Which is exactly why they have him a line and are waiting to see how he does. The biggest question has been whether he has the ability given the time to throw. Now we’ll see how he does with all the new guys on the O line and they’ll be paying him even more after this season. Which is why you don’t see him complaining about the contract.

  24. blackandbluedivision says: Jul 16, 2013 2:54 PM

    While you all are comparing Stafford to Cutler…keep in mind how many more times the Bears ran the ball than the Lions. They had more of a balanced attack. Stafford nearly broke his arm throwing the ball so much because he had to when the run game was non-existent.

  25. gbmickey says: Jul 16, 2013 4:06 PM

    Indybear my bad on spelling of consistent but because impetulant is above your grade level does not mean it is not a word.

    As far as the worn out excuse of Cutler running for his life no one ran more than Rodgers. He had a porous line and no running game but managed to take over games and lead the league in passing once again. I am not mentioning Rodgers to brag about him just to back my point that given similar circumstances Cutler is more known for throwing a fit than a completion. I believe Bear management has a similar belief in that they are willing to let him play out his contract and prove himself before offering him another.

  26. jazsrt says: Jul 16, 2013 4:27 PM

    gbmickey says:
    Jul 16, 2013 4:06 PM
    Indybear my bad on spelling of consistent but because impetulant is above your grade level does not mean it is not a word.

    As far as the worn out excuse of Cutler running for his life no one ran more than Rodgers. He had a porous line and no running game but managed to take over games and lead the league in passing once again. I am not mentioning Rodgers to brag about him just to back my point that given similar circumstances Cutler is more known for throwing a fit than a completion. I believe Bear management has a similar belief in that they are willing to let him play out his contract and prove himself before offering him another.

    _____________________________

    While I will agree Green Bay has had it’s share of o-line problems, I do not think that is where the majority of the issues Cutler has had stem from.

    I would argue that having Mike Tice, and the other lack luster OC’s calling/developing plays made a bigger impact on Cutler’s lack of success than just the line.

    Contrary to what most Packers fans think, the OC/HC up north were as much of a factor to their recent success, if not more, than Aaron Rodgers’ arm and accuracy.

  27. millerhour says: Jul 16, 2013 4:30 PM

    I get what you’re saying vdogg, don’t find it very complicated either

  28. colonel4ngus says: Jul 16, 2013 4:51 PM

    @gbmickey

    “impetulant”

    so classic to read people trying to sound smart (and parrot what they thought they heard mark schlereth say about cutler), only to use words that don’t exist in the english language.

    can only assume gb is short for green bay, which is not surprising.

    me fail english? that’s unpossible.

    so, the bears pumped the brakes before issuing a huge deal? good for trestman.

  29. larryboodry says: Jul 16, 2013 6:08 PM

    jaykray says: Jul 16, 2013 12:56 PM

    “Didn’t the Vikings have a couple of pick-6′s against him last year?”

    No, just one…And before you puff out your chest too far, remember this…In his career, Jay is 6-2 against the Heidis, with 17 TDs and 9 INTs.

  30. larryboodry says: Jul 16, 2013 6:29 PM

    As for Jay’s contract status, ‘Moon’ Mullin at CSN Chicago opines that the Bears have already decided to re-sign Jay regardless, but will base his salary on how well he performs this year. This makes sense to me.

  31. chi01town says: Jul 16, 2013 7:38 PM

    this site is full of Lies and this one is
    unreasonable. Why would Emery and Cutler’s agent stop a deal that both sides agreed to? Cutler’s agent would have let this one fly as soon as Emery tried to pull out. Cutler wants to play in Chicago and he would have said something if Emery would have pulled out of a deal. Emery has made great moves every since he came to Chicago now all of a sudden he second guess him self.

  32. filthymcnasty1 says: Jul 16, 2013 8:25 PM

    This is just the first stage of the Bears admitting that they whiffed on Cutler.

  33. Waffle 2.0 says: Jul 16, 2013 9:04 PM

    dude, you’re such a tool. At least act like a guy that likes sports once in a while instead of a little chick.

  34. jimmylions says: Jul 16, 2013 9:10 PM

    When Cutler arrived, Bears fans, upset Broncos fans, and about half the NFL said that the Bears were going to the Super Bowl. That didn’t happen. Cutler has been a disappointment in Chicago.

    Cutler has to make it work this season or he’ll be looking for a backup role somewhere next season. He’s got control of his own destiny, but he needs to work harder than he’s ever worked.

    Stafford is younger and has a much bigger gun. His long-term upside is bigger than Cutler’s. That’s why securing Stafford is more important for Detroit than Cutler is to Chicago.

  35. chi01town says: Jul 16, 2013 11:44 PM

    Emery has become a great GM in Chicago. and he has the fans on his side. He wont be stupid enough to turn his back on Cutler and pull out of a deal. This time I dont belive this story. What do Cutler’s agent have to gain by letting Emery pull out of a deal? and why would he keep quiet about it?

  36. steelerben says: Jul 17, 2013 2:24 PM

    @gbmickey:

    Impetuous – of, pertaining to, or characterized by sudden or rash action, emotion, etc

    Petulant – moved to or showing sudden, impatient irritation, especially over some trifling annoyance

    While both of those words could be used to describe Cutler at times, mashing them together doesn’t make a real word.

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