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Qadry Ismail talks about Cris Carter’s “extreme selfishness”

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In five days, former NFL receiver Cris Carter will join the Hall of Fame in Canton.  And if, as John Madden believes, the busts talk to each other at night, they’re about to get an earful from Carter’s bronze likeness.   (Not to mention Warren Sapp’s.)

While the protocol for the week will be to say nice things about the inductees, former Vikings teammate Qadry Ismail went off script Sunday, telling it like it is (or at least like he saw it) regarding Carter.

“To be perfectly honest with you, Cris was a bona fide diva,” Ismail told SiriusXM Mad Dog Radio.  “That dude would make, as far as his play, some outstanding one-handed grabs in practice to the point where when we got to the game we were just like, people would be like, ‘Oh, no!’  And we were like, ‘Yeah, and?  Well, that’s just kind of Cris Carter.’  However, to me, when I say the greatest guy that I played with was Shannon Sharpe, because he raised the game up for me as a player. I know there would be times when we’d get in the huddle and he’d look over at me and go, ‘Q, we need to make a play.’ Or whatever it might have been in that moment. And I swear to you it would be like, ‘Oh my god, I’m going to make a play because Shannon just called me out.’ And sure enough, boom, it would be there. Shannon was that kind of a guy that you just knew that he was in your corner. You couldn’t say the same thing for Cris Carter.  You couldn’t say the same thing as far as his attitude towards his teammates. You couldn’t say the same thing as far as his attitude as far as the coaching staff. You knew that he had a selfishness to him that was an extreme selfishness.”

The characterization won’t really shock anyone.  Carter wanted the ball, and he wasn’t afraid to say so — even if it meant berating anyone who was keeping him from getting it.

“Could he flat out make catches? Absolutely. Could he flat out make plays? Absolutely. But there’s a reason why they didn’t go all the way and win Super Bowls,” Ismail said.  “There’s a reason why, that his talent was good, but when you talk about Jerry Rice talent you also talk about that team elevating it to the next level to win championships.  When you talk about Shannon’s talent you are talking about that team elevating and winning championships.  When you are talking about talent, there’s one thing to have talent but, to me, if you’re a complete, amazing football player, others around you rise up to whatever their level of talent is.”

Ismail emphasized that he believes Carter belongs in the Hall of Fame.  The point is that Carter’s style kept him from lifting the rest of his teammates to Carter’s level.

It won’t matter on Saturday, when Carter receives the highest individual honor any sport can provide.  We wonder whether he’d trade that for one Super Bowl ring.

Based on Ismail’s comments, the honest answer apparently would be, “Hell no.”

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84 Responses to “Qadry Ismail talks about Cris Carter’s “extreme selfishness””
  1. autumnwind999 says: Jul 29, 2013 7:32 AM

    Still can’t believe the clowns on the committee voted Sapp and Carter in before Timmy Brown.

  2. guruvious says: Jul 29, 2013 7:34 AM

    How many teams was Qadry on over his career?

  3. 13fitzj says: Jul 29, 2013 7:42 AM

    News flash: he was an elite wideout. How many of them are not selfish/divas?

  4. dobberdubinsky says: Jul 29, 2013 7:43 AM

    Blah blah blah from Quadry who? Congrats once again Cris Carter, you are truly one of the best ever who made circus catches look easy time after time. Have fun in Canton, it deserves you!

  5. scrapingthefloorioforstorios says: Jul 29, 2013 7:47 AM

    when you wear that purple, something happens to you..

  6. mnmarine0351 says: Jul 29, 2013 7:47 AM

    Carter absolutely deserves his place in Canton. He was incredible to watch and even with his diva attitude he is still one of the NFLs great redemption stories. Theres a reason the Eagles threw him away. Also, if you are one of the best in the world at what you do, you deserve the right to be a lil arrogant. That being said, its unfortunate he couldnt have been a better team player.

  7. blackstrat says: Jul 29, 2013 7:48 AM

    I believe it!
    Remember how he mopped around and sulked when he was on The Mike and Mike Show?

  8. slizzyslizz says: Jul 29, 2013 7:52 AM

    At least he put his name on it.

  9. greenmeattruck says: Jul 29, 2013 8:05 AM

    “Somethin’ just seems to happen when they put on that purple.”- Mike McCarthy

  10. sampsonswag01 says: Jul 29, 2013 8:05 AM

    “… to the point where when we got to the game we were just like, people would be like, ‘Oh, no!’ And we were like, ‘Yeah, and? Well, that’s just kind of Cris Carter.’ “…………….

    Perhaps I need more coffee but I have no clue what he was saying there.

  11. truthfactory says: Jul 29, 2013 8:08 AM

    Sorry Carter, can’t escape your past…

  12. puckthefatriots says: Jul 29, 2013 8:12 AM

    When you make Shannon Sharp seem humble, it’s time for a little self evaluation.

  13. draftrobot says: Jul 29, 2013 8:12 AM

    Once again, Cris Carter never finished in the top 5 for receiving yards in a season.

  14. touchdownroddywhite says: Jul 29, 2013 8:15 AM

    Of course he wouldn’t. How many times has Carter said the words “I really wish we could have gotten that elusive title” compared to “Honestly, I belong in the HOF and it’s bias keeping me out?”

  15. 2dollarpbrs says: Jul 29, 2013 8:19 AM

    Please flush Chris Carter down the toilet

  16. wwwmattcom says: Jul 29, 2013 8:22 AM

    Ismail was always a go to target for me, in Madden. This is an interesting POV. young talent being mentored and viewing Chris Carter as a me guy. A TO before there was TO.

    Still waiting for Andre Reed to get in.

  17. greenandyellowarebabypoopcolorsiwouldrathrwearpink says: Jul 29, 2013 8:25 AM

    i find it kinda funny the rocket has any opinion on this at all that being said, alot of times people that are exceptional want the ball, its a characteristic of a great player…Jordon..Kobe..rice, but really dude if you cant get up for a game yourself then you shouldnt have been out there, its not carters job to get you up for a game or a certain play, and the reason he didnt win a super bowl wasnt because of his play or style that he went about his business, more or less bad luck ( Anderson missing the field goal in 98)…thanks for your 2 cents now go back to obscurity

  18. govikes82 says: Jul 29, 2013 8:25 AM

    Not surprising. I wonder if Moss would have turned out differently had he had a better mentor when he came in the league.

  19. expertop says: Jul 29, 2013 8:32 AM

    Qadrey had flippers for hands.

  20. youngs79 says: Jul 29, 2013 8:32 AM

    It must have been tough on Qadry living in his brother’s shadow his whole life, then becoming an NFL player, looking around, and figuring out I’m not talented enough to be here.

  21. dcviking says: Jul 29, 2013 8:33 AM

    Not really news….he was always a selfish jerk. When they were winning and he was doing well, all problems got brushed aside.

    But let’s be clear, Rocket’s little brother was never that good, so this is a bit of sour grapes — not saying it wasn’t true though.

    And why didn’t the Vikings make it to the Superbowl while Carter was on the team, ask Dennis Green, Robert Smith, and Gary Anderson before you ask Cris Carter.

  22. 44mpo says: Jul 29, 2013 8:34 AM

    Chris Carter, not a team player? Now who woudda thunk that?

  23. tres79 says: Jul 29, 2013 8:35 AM

    Ismail describes Carter perfectly. But no one could elevate the game of Qadry “hands of stone” Ismail.

  24. melikefootball says: Jul 29, 2013 8:36 AM

    ESPN will not like this comment since CC and his buddies promoted on the shows for CC to be in the HOF every chance they got.

  25. GenoAtkinswillnotbestopped says: Jul 29, 2013 8:40 AM

    Sounds like sour grapes to me Qadry… Your demeaning his contribution to the game because he didn’t make you better? Who is the selfish one again?

  26. lks311 says: Jul 29, 2013 8:45 AM

    Shocker.

    Truth be told, the same was said about Rice.

  27. gurnblanstonreturns says: Jul 29, 2013 8:46 AM

    Qadry Ismail tells the truth about cris carter. Jerry Rice is a Hall of Famer because of talent, work ethic and character as a teammate and a man. On the other hand, cris carter is a punk who put up video game numbers while defenses focused on Randy Moss, was a selfish teammate and exhibited abhorrent character.

    cris carter cheapens every organization he joins. The Hall of Fame will be permanently degraded this weekend by polluting its halls with cris carter.

  28. rayguyreturns says: Jul 29, 2013 8:53 AM

    This revelation won’t shock many people.

  29. jerrykill4pres says: Jul 29, 2013 8:56 AM

    Why does this not surprise me? I could very easily CC having that sort of attitude. Although, Q… You might want to actually contribute to a team before you spout off. I’m pretty sure CC did more in one game than you did in your career.

  30. richardbruklis says: Jul 29, 2013 9:00 AM

    I knew a girl at Ohio State and she claimed that she was studying at the one of the buildings and Cris Carter walked up to and said, “Buy me a coke”. I guess he assumed his Big Man on Campus status warranted rude behavior.

  31. onlysane1intheroom says: Jul 29, 2013 9:03 AM

    Ismail is a liar. No way he understood a single word Shannon Sharpe said!

  32. Neftali Ramos says: Jul 29, 2013 9:18 AM

    Tiki is flabbergasted!

  33. elliottcovert says: Jul 29, 2013 9:19 AM

    A wide receiver wanted the football a lot? Stop the freaking presses, this is front page news.

    Why is it that we talk about championships when we talk about Shannon Sharpe or Jerry Rice? Hmmm, well maybe we could start with the fact that Jerry Rice played the vast majority of his career with two of the top ten greatest quarterbacks of all time and rounded it out with Rich Gannon and Jeff Garcia during excellent stretches of their careers. Shannon Sharpe played with John Elway and Terrell Davis, and had the good fortune to be along for the ride with the 2000 Ravens defense.

    Cris Carter did not have consistently excellent quarterback play throughout his career. He had brief periods of good QB play and a whole lot of Jeff George and Brad Johnson in between. Yet he still managed to catch over 1,100 passes and 130 touchdowns.

    The fact of the matter is that wide receivers can only effect the outcome of their team’s fortunes so much. Shame on Q, who is well-aware of this, for giving more bait to the hateful anti-Carter trolls.

  34. toothfairyretributionmanifesto says: Jul 29, 2013 9:23 AM

    To say that the Vikes didn’t win a superbowl because of Cris Carter is absurd. Last time I checked Carter didn’t have Joe Montana, Steve Young, or John Elway tossing him passes. Also, to my memory I don’t remember Qadry really elevating his game with another team.

  35. pillowporkers says: Jul 29, 2013 9:30 AM

    I no doubt believe what Q is saying is true, similar to what Greg Jennings was saying about Rodgers, but let Chris Carter have his week. Sometimes its best to just let things go because in the end, you end up being the one that looks like the jerk when you’re the one spouting off to the media.

  36. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Jul 29, 2013 9:32 AM

    I don’t think this surprises anyone who was paying attention during Carter’s playing days. His #1 goal was to make the Hall of Fame. I don’t think Cris Carter is the primary reason why the Vikings never won a Super Bowl, though.

  37. aa1829 says: Jul 29, 2013 9:42 AM

    I am vindicated. I hated the diva from day one, yes and that is not too harsh a word. It is awful listening to this guy as a talking head, all about himself still.

  38. filthymcnasty1 says: Jul 29, 2013 9:51 AM

    Like the fatally flawed Chris Carter, it looks like Greg Jennings is going the diva route on the Vikings already, and was called into the principal’s office on just the 2nd day of training camp for a scolding from a very disappointed coach Frazier.

    Something does happen when you put that purple on.

  39. anarchopurplism says: Jul 29, 2013 9:56 AM

    The Missile Takes Aim at Chris Carter!

  40. jethrie says: Jul 29, 2013 10:04 AM

    Ismail has a Superbowl ring. Carter does not. Those of you saying Ismail has no right to speak must be ignoring the fact that QI has more receptions, yards and wins in the SB than Carter does.

  41. GenXJay says: Jul 29, 2013 10:09 AM

    “…something happens when you put on purple…”, repeatedly multiple GB trollls state.

    Yeah, gb trolls. You become green w/envy.
    Also, this situation sounds too familiar. Look for that première qb of GB to never win the big one again since the team’s current & ex-players speak so blatantly bad about #12.

  42. truthserum4u says: Jul 29, 2013 10:12 AM

    While Carter most assuredly had his moments as a diva, Qadry should probably ask Jake Reed & Randy Moss if Cris helped them in their careers. Both were far more successful than Ismail and both have said Carter was a part of that.

    draftrobot says: Jul 29, 2013 8:12 AM

    Once again, Cris Carter never finished in the top 5 for receiving yards in a season.
    __________________________

    Yes, but he finished in the top five in touchdowns EIGHT times (and another one in the top six). Last time I checked, you win games by scoring points, not accumulating yardage.

  43. kurmudge says: Jul 29, 2013 10:21 AM

    If you watched Qadry play, you saw that he was very nervous when the ball was coming to him- he was a “body catcher” with board hands who got the yips when the ball got there.

    Carter would needle teammates who had issues catching the ball, but he would also work on the problem. Jake Reed was the third receiver with Carter and Moss, and came into the league with the same kind of issues dropping passes as Ismael had. Undoubtedly, Carter pinged him about it- but also worked with him, and you never see bad words from Reed about Cris Carter. Why?

    I submit that it is because Qadry himself has issues, not that Carter is a bad guy. I’ll take a mouthy guy whose goal is winning any day of the week- if he backs it up on the field as Carter did, and as Qadry Ismael did not.

    There is some envy at work here.

  44. larrydavid7000 says: Jul 29, 2013 10:45 AM

    This guy was and is still a PUNK.!!!! With that said I have no idea what he is doing at the Hall. Tim Brown was a better WR on and off the field. Also how in the hell is ogden in the Hall over a 3 time champion Joe Jacoby.???? The writers that vote people in are on another world sometimes.

  45. dgt178 says: Jul 29, 2013 10:54 AM

    ….absolutely…hands down….THE….most overrated wr in nfl history….just watch the films fools….carter was the “push-off” king….practically every play…he wasn’t athletic enough to get open…so he’d push off right before the ball got to him….total offensive pass interference…..RARELY called….purple puke PUNK……

  46. filthymcnasty1 says: Jul 29, 2013 11:31 AM

    Have you ever noticed that every article about Carter (and the Vikings) is always qualified by “never was able to win it all”?

  47. wikipediasaidso says: Jul 29, 2013 11:42 AM

    Totally believe everything Qadry said about Carter, who’s always had that annoying diva aura. Also totally agree that it doesn’t mean Carter wasn’t still a HoF-worthy annoying diva. Just more fun as a fan when the guys getting inducted don’t make me want to turn off the TV whenever they open their mouths.

  48. donpisto says: Jul 29, 2013 11:46 AM

    The already, overused, lame, desperate comment, that is beyond old:

    “Duh, something happens when you wear that purple”

    Yes, you’ll find out what happens when your team gets steamrolled by purple.

  49. greenandyellowarebabypoopcolorsiwouldrathrwearpink says: Jul 29, 2013 12:15 PM

    jethrie says:
    Jul 29, 2013 10:04 AM
    Ismail has a Superbowl ring. Carter does not. Those of you saying Ismail has no right to speak must be ignoring the fact that QI has more receptions, yards and wins in the SB than Carter does.

    *******************************************
    listen fella, you are sadly and sorely mistaken if you think QI had more receiving yards, and receptions the c.c, hell combined with his brother they dont even equal c.c stats….so QI has a ring, geez they give one to players on the practice squad, trainers, ect. just because you have a ring doesnt make or break you as a professional…hell lets take/keep marino, barry sanders, thurman thomas, andre reed, randy moss out of the hall of fame because he doesnt have a ring….

  50. thegonz13 says: Jul 29, 2013 12:18 PM

    Qadry who? Oh yeah, Rocket’s little brother.

    So Carter may have been a diva. So the hell what? For openers, he turned his mess of a life around and he helped others elevate their games. The fact he wasn’t able to do it with Qadry isn’t a knock on Carter but it says something about Rocket’s Li’l Brother.

    So Qadry, your nickname was “The Missile”, right? Sounds to me like your career was more like a SCUD missile: it took off but no one knows where it was going.

  51. rajbais says: Jul 29, 2013 12:20 PM

    Again, why teammate quality shouldn’t be used in the Hall of Fame voting process.

    It is not a playing attribute and takes behavior into account when voters allege that behavior doesn’t.

    Emotions displaying selfishness or teamwork are literally behavioral and that truly means that the voters are willing to be unethical and violate their own standards to put guys in or out.

    Does any other sports hall of fame voting process use teammate qualities? No.

    Not even basketball.

    Football evaluation is already subjective. Why let unethical and inept people make it more subjective and create more gray area?

    After all in an all-22 camera era you don’t need to be hypocritical and use literal behavioral reasons to put people in or out. You can evaluate players based on playing and on-field attributes to not look hypocritical, unworthy, and unintellegent to deserve a vote.

    After all a player is one who plays a sport and displaying behavior isn’t literally playing. It’s just an unethical and unnecessary scoring system to upgrade or downgrade players when it as a way to define one who plays a game or sport makes no sense.

  52. ruvelligwebuike says: Jul 29, 2013 12:29 PM

    The guy would honestly flop to the ground and flail around like a three year old after every ball that he didn’t catch. That, or come back to the huddle with tears in his eyes and yell at his quarterback.

    Best hands I’ve ever seen, but truly just a disgrace of a man.

  53. filthymcnasty1 says: Jul 29, 2013 12:33 PM

    Carter’s induction is clearly tainted by his lack of a Superbowl ring, and his legacy as a crappy teammate. Hopefully Carter will address these failures during his induction speech.

  54. rajbais says: Jul 29, 2013 12:36 PM

    Words or expression to motivate, improve, or downgrade a team is not provable.

    Voters are relying on another man’s word when it can’t be proven by the voters themselves.

    If you’re a voter do you really want to put teammate quality into the equation by needing to trust guys who have too much selective amnesia for you to trust them in a process that is alleged to have the intent to be objective?

    Again, who cares about teammate quality in a process to define playing greatness. Being a good teammate doesn’t always involve playing and has too many off-field attributes to be legitimate for evaluating playing greatness; particularly when Ray Lewis, the ultimate motivator, had his two worst seasons in his last.

    I am not incorrect. Those who feel the opposite aren’t thinking straight.

  55. realfootballfan says: Jul 29, 2013 1:08 PM

    Basically, this guy just said that he wanted another player to encourage him so he could do his job. No wonder nobody remembers who you are because if you were a professional, you wouldn’t have carried around that loser attitude.

  56. jmak79 says: Jul 29, 2013 1:13 PM

    It would be refreshing to hear from other Carter Team Mates, escecially Moss. But to say he was a selfish team mate is absurd at the wide reciever position. Notice he didn’t say Carter took off plays or didn’t block on running downs, cause he always did everything to a t.
    I guess Carter needed to tell the other recievers in the huddle to catch the ball more…yeah thats a bad team mate who doesnt tell them to do their job!

  57. dre3713 says: Jul 29, 2013 2:02 PM

    Ismail never got encouraged by Carter because, let’s face it, even though Ismail was the a #3WR/KR, Carter might have felt like I do. Ismail was a KR only who couldn’t be counted on to make plays

  58. pandebailey says: Jul 29, 2013 2:03 PM

    I read the story twice and still can’t see what Ismail is saying – Carter was selfish and caught a lot of passes, so the Vikings missed a Superbowl? Exactly what is a #1 WR supposed to do differently, say “Hey guys, let’s throw the next one to little Ismail over there – he’s got less than 20 catches this year!”? THAT gets you to a Superbowl? Really?

  59. fogislifted says: Jul 29, 2013 2:15 PM

    In my opinion, not everyone has the make up to elevate people around them. Some guys are average players, some are role players and some guys are guys that other guys believe in and want to follow. Qadry wasn’t someone who elevated the play of those around him either, and just because he’s not going to make the HOF, he shouldn’t slight Carter for making it, when they share that same disability. It sounds like jealousy when you break it down to that level. He grew up in the large shadow that the Rocket created, so I’m not too surprised that Qadry has a jealousy issue. He was a serviceable player, at best. He played a lot of games at the NFL level and that’s enought to be proud of. He should be satisfied with his own accomplishments, and set some new goals for himself. And saying Carter is a Diva and he’s arrogant is like saying the sky is blue. That’s apparent to everyone who has followed the league closely.

  60. atepper001 says: Jul 29, 2013 2:18 PM

    The lasting memory I have of Carter is when he was a host on Inside the NFL and they were debating McNabb’s legacy and not having a ring. Carter said, the only number that matters is what’s in his bank account, not rings. Marino, Collinsworth and the crew looked at him like he was a fungus. Carter, showing his true shellfish colors. Hell of a play maker though, just not a locker room type to help get you to a Super Bowl. something to be said about the Tim Brown’s and John Taylor’s who had less talent but understood the whole could be greater than the sum of it’s parts in a team sport.

  61. basedrum777 says: Jul 29, 2013 2:27 PM

    There was something said not too long ago about how CC was NEVER the no. 1 receiver on a great team. He was either forced to play second to a better receiver or was the only receiver on a bad team. The stats seem to bear that out. I would say the 2nd best on any team is not a HOF unless the best is JR or the like. If you can’t ever elevate your game or that of your teammates as Quadry notes above then you’re not a HOFer.

  62. tokyosandblaster says: Jul 29, 2013 3:23 PM

    Carter personifies the Vikings organization and fans.

    Never won a ring. Never truly one of the best.

    Talks like he’s the best ever.

  63. thegonz13 says: Jul 29, 2013 3:34 PM

    @filthymcnasty… Dan Marino never won a Super Bowl. Barry Sanders never won a Super Bowl either? Eric Dickerson? O. J. Simpson? No. The list goes on and on and on and… well, you get the idea.

    If winning a Super Bowl is your sole criteria for entering the HOF, over half the players in there never would have gone in in the first place.

  64. ruvelligwebuike says: Jul 29, 2013 3:54 PM

    “Dad, why is that man doing “The Worm” and having spasms on the field? Is he having a seizure?”

    “No, son, that’s just Cris Carter. It’s his way of letting the refs know that a d back broke up a pass headed his way and it should automatically be a flag. He does that in the huddle if Cunningham doesn’t look his way every three plays, too. He’s got great hands though!”

  65. atepper001 says: Jul 29, 2013 4:18 PM

    omg, some people are way to rigid on here. it isn’t about whether or not he won a SB it’s about the fact that he didn’t play to help his team win a SB. he played for himself, period. he said it himself when asked about his legacy. winning a SB doesn’t bother me because there are only 2 people in my class. Jerry and Me. He played for himself, for stats and for money. Nothing wrong with that i guess. it just doesn’t make you a good teammate. deserves the HOF though because he was excellent at what he did on the field. i just wouldn’t want him tainting my team if i were a GM with SB aspirations.

  66. kennypowersays says: Jul 29, 2013 5:54 PM

    Does every ex NFLer, who ends up being a network commentator , get an automatic place in the HOF? Seems that way.

  67. theytukrjobs says: Jul 29, 2013 7:45 PM

    So Carter was a selfish diva or whatever. You know what though the guy showed up every day and gave maximum effort. Nobody questions that.

    I also disagree with the “Carter being the reason they didn’t win a superbowl” nonsense. Jerry Rice had two HOF QB’s and some incredible defenses playing the other side of the ball.

    The Vikings needed more players like Carter, not less of them.

  68. bpurd says: Jul 29, 2013 7:56 PM

    He raised his game by saying Q you need to make a play. How about you just make a play. Why do a grown man need a pep talk to do his job. Chris Carter is not the reason why they didn’t win a super bowl. Sounds like sorry grapes. Jerry Rice was jist as selfish as any other WR. Coaches and former teammates will tell you so. The majority of great WR are divas.

  69. 4ever9er says: Jul 29, 2013 9:03 PM

    @autumnwind999 says:Jul 29, 2013 7:32 AM

    Still can’t believe the clowns on the committee voted Sapp and Carter in before Timmy Brown.
    ———————————————————
    It’s because they deservesd it!!!
    Tim Brown will get in and so will Andre Reed.

  70. 4ever9er says: Jul 29, 2013 9:06 PM

    draftrobot says:Jul 29, 2013 8:12 AM

    Once again, Cris Carter never finished in the top 5 for receiving yards in a season.
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    True, but he finished in the the top 10 cosistently! He was also in the top 5 in Receptions and TDs frequently!!!
    Deserves to be in the HOF

  71. 4ever9er says: Jul 29, 2013 9:11 PM

    govikes82 says:Jul 29, 2013 8:25 AM

    Not surprising. I wonder if Moss would have turned out differently had he had a better mentor when he came in the league.
    ——————————————————–
    Cris Carter was Moss’s crutch! How great was Moss after Carter left? Moss was his own worst enemy, say what you will about Carter but he didn’t a mentor or need to be motivated to play the game!

  72. 4ever9er says: Jul 29, 2013 9:32 PM

    @gurnblanstonreturns says:Jul 29, 2013 8:46 AM

    On the other hand, cris carter is a punk who put up video game numbers while defenses focused on Randy Moss, was a selfish teammate and exhibited abhorrent character.
    ———————————————————
    Check your facts!!!
    Cris Carter before Moss
    (756 Rec/9436 Yrds/89 TDs)

    Cris Carter after Moss
    (345 Rec/4463 Yrds/41 TDs)

  73. 4ever9er says: Jul 29, 2013 9:41 PM

    @larrydavid7000 says:Jul 29, 2013 10:45 AM

    With that said I have no idea what he is doing at the Hall. Tim Brown was a better WR on and off the field. Also how in the hell is ogden in the Hall over a 3 time champion Joe Jacoby.???? The writers that vote people in are on another world sometimes.
    ———————————————————
    1. Off the field issues have nothing to do with the voting and never should.
    It’s the Pro Football HOF, not the Good Citizen award
    2. 1101 Rec/13899 Yrds/130 TDs

  74. 4ever9er says: Jul 29, 2013 9:45 PM

    @dgt178 says:Jul 29, 2013 10:54 AM

    ….absolutely…hands down….THE….most overrated wr in nfl history….just watch the films fools….carter was the “push-off” king….practically every play…he wasn’t athletic enough to get open…so he’d push off right before the ball got to him….total offensive pass interference…..RARELY called….
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    Yeah Right, he pushed off 1101 times and stumbled bumbled slipped and fell into 130 TDs.
    You are delusional!!!

  75. 4ever9er says: Jul 29, 2013 9:59 PM

    @filthymcnasty1 says:Jul 29, 2013 12:33 PM

    Carter’s induction is clearly tainted by his lack of a Superbowl ring, and his legacy as a crappy teammate. Hopefully Carter will address these failures during his induction speech.
    ———————————————————
    You are aware of the fact that a number of HOF members don’t have SB rings?
    Marino, Tarkenton, B. Sanders, Fouts, Winslow,
    Largent, etc. HOFers, no rings.
    I don’t recall any of them being required to address their failures!!!

  76. 4ever9er says: Jul 29, 2013 10:05 PM

    @atepper001 says:Jul 29, 2013 2:18 PM

    The lasting memory I have of Carter is when he was a host on Inside the NFL and they were debating McNabb’s legacy and not having a ring. Carter said, the only number that matters is what’s in his bank account, not rings. Marino, Collinsworth and the crew looked at him like he was a fungus. Carter, showing his true shellfish colors.
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    Of Marino, Collinsworth and therest of the crew how many had rings? And neither does Tim Brown

  77. 4ever9er says: Jul 29, 2013 10:09 PM

    @basedrum777 says:Jul 29, 2013 2:27 PM

    There was something said not too long ago about how CC was NEVER the no. 1 receiver on a great team. He was either forced to play second to a better receiver or was the only receiver on a bad team. The stats seem to bear that out. I would say the 2nd best on any team is not a HOF unless the best is JR or the like. If you can’t ever elevate your game or that of your teammates as Quadry notes above then you’re not a HOFer.
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    When was he on a Great Team? How does his stats bear that out? When he retired he was in the top 5 in every Receiving category. Where ar your facts sir?

  78. 4ever9er says: Jul 29, 2013 10:11 PM

    @kennypowersays says:Jul 29, 2013 5:54 PM

    Does every ex NFLer, who ends up being a network commentator , get an automatic place in the HOF? Seems that way.
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    Just the ones who deserve it!!!

  79. 4ever9er says: Jul 29, 2013 10:16 PM

    @bpurd says:Jul 29, 2013 7:56 PM

    Jerry Rice was jist as selfish as any other WR. Coaches and former teammates will tell you so. The majority of great WR are divas.
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    Throw me the ball so I can get stats, that’s selfish.
    Throw me the ball because I’m open and can score, that’s fact!
    It’s no different than if a great running back wanted the ball because they could gain yards and help the team win.
    You might as well say that the majority of Offensive skill players are divas, don’t just pick on the WRs!

  80. richdaddy1231 says: Jul 30, 2013 1:06 AM

    Who??? Did this guy play football? Him and his brother were scrubs.

  81. puckthefackers says: Jul 30, 2013 5:21 AM

    Nothing like a story about an NFL legend to bring out the green and yellow-wearing garbage from Green Bay.

    It’s cool. They’ve never had a receiver as talented as Cris Carter before.

  82. atepper001 says: Jul 30, 2013 11:27 AM

    not sure how you missed the point but, you did. the point is 1) that carter did not “play” for the team or for the SB, he played for himself which by definition, is selfish. it doesn’t matter who the panel on inside the nfl was or if they had rings, it could have been nascar drivers and the point remains… carter was more concerned with money and stats than helping a team get to or win the SB. and 2) he made it painfully clear to those watching that show what his priorities were / are and the results on the field support it… great athletic WR, terrible teammate, awful leader and quite possibly a roadblock to a championship given his attitude. you are being way to rigid in how you are reacting to my comment. in any case, to answer your question, i believe each player on that show either played in or had a ring… boniconti (sp?) and dawson had rings, marino, collinsworth played in one. brown played in one as well. carter played in the NFC championship once and lost i believe after moss led them there.

  83. 4ever9er says: Jul 30, 2013 2:29 PM

    @atepper001 says:Jul 30, 2013 11:27 AM

    1. I think that the majority of players in the NFL care more about what’s in their bank accounts at the end of their career more than the number of rings they have (I believe a secret poll would bear that out). That doesn’t make them selfish, it makes them practical; they all have the goal of wining a SB, but if they don’t win one at the end of the day the only numbers that matters is what’s in their bank accounts!

    2. You have no proof that he was just playing for stats.

    3. Poor defense and special teams was the Roadblock that prevented the Vikings from to a SB, not Cris Carter.

    4. I’ve never heard anyone who played with Carter call him selfish, as I recall he embraced Moss when he came into the league.

    5. My question was how many of them had won a SB ring? The answer was none because the two who had won rings (Len Dawson & Nick Buoniconti) weren’t on the show any longer when Cris Carter began.

    6. It’s the HOF! Not all of the players in the HOF were great people, leaders or saints! What they were was great football players and Cris Carter was one of them.

  84. purplehaze28 says: Aug 2, 2013 1:52 PM

    All he does is catch touchdowns!
    That is STRAIGHT CASH homeys!

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