Broker says Manziel received $7,500 for autographs


The closest Johnny Manziel may come to football in 2013 is his nickname.

According to, a broker says that Manziel received $7,500 for signing approximately 300 helmets in January.  It happened at the Walter Camp Football Foundation event, making it different from the paid autograph session in Miami, where Manziel allegedly engaged prior to the BCS National Championship game.

The broker showed ESPN videos of Manziel signing the helmets, which were shot for authentication purposes.  Manziel reportedly can be heard on the video saying “you never did a signing with me.”

With two separate incidents, Manziel could be facing more than the five-game suspensions imposed on various Ohio State players in 2011 for receiving compensation for memorabilia.

While the broader question continues to be whether college football players should be allowed to receive compensation for autographs (even those like Manziel, whose family already has plenty of money), the rules won’t be changing before they are applied to Manziel.

Which means that Manziel ultimately could have an extended opportunity to prepare for the 2014 draft.

At least he wouldn’t end up with a bunch of bad 2013 game film to undermine a performance that was good enough last year to get him the Heisman Trophy.

88 responses to “Broker says Manziel received $7,500 for autographs

  1. This kid seems like all hype. From what I’ve seen nothing special an above average QB in college who will be exposed in the pros. He doesn’t have that rocket arm or super speed but his pocket presence seems pretty good. Kid will be exposed in the pros.

  2. At least Ryan Leaf made millions before his life unraveled. This guy might not even be able to have the bust label.

  3. Anybody else think he’s going to pull a “Terrell Pryor” by joining the supplemental draft? I think it could be a possibility if he faces an extended suspension.

  4. What an a__hole scumbag that broker is to sell Manziel out like this, obviously an agenda driving that. And what a pure Idiot Manziel is for even going down this road, more than once apparently. Hopefully with him done for this year we should be hearing (mercifully) a lot less in the press about Johnny Football until next Feb.

  5. Well, now he’ll get his wish of not having all this “pressure” on him anymore and just being able to be a regular guy as he goes back to irrelevance because he’s not an NFL caliber talent.

    Hate the NCAA exploitation of these young men, but he has to be smarter than this.

  6. The funny part is I could see some players capitolizing on revenue that won’t be there one day but he is literally the lone example of a current player who will never lose his signature’s marketability and I can sum it up with one word…Heisman.

    There are at least thousands of people out there that have balls and helmets passed down over the years with every Heisman trophy winner’s signature on it. That revenue was going nowhere for Manziel.

    If he didn’t need cash then why act like such a fool?

    This really blows my mind.

  7. I’m getting sick of this kid.. hes mad annoying, he acts like a big shot, and now hes making profit off a signature even though he should know that it is against the NCAA rules. All the A&M fans can go ahead and say “Oh hes just a 20 year old kid” I can name a handful of 20 year old QBs in CFB that are the same age and conduct themselves maturely and in a classy way so that is not an excuse anymore. Also lets stop acting like this kid is a top draft prospect, his game will not translate. He is smaller version of Tim Tebow without the muscle and he has the ugliest throwing motion known to mankind. If he does make it and shows flashes then that’s great but if he can’t even handle getting recognized in college then whats he gonna do if he goes to a big market team? hmm..I smell bust if this kid makes it into the first round.

  8. He doesn’t seem bright unless he got paid good money for a ticket out of College Station. He’s been begging for a getoutof town card all year.
    We’ve all heard it. Some weren’t listening.

  9. Is 7,500 worth your eligibility? Especially when your family is well off? He is stupid for taking the money, but the NCAA needs to change it’s rules. Stuff like this happens all the time and will continue to happen.

  10. Why does a kid that comes from money need $7,500 to sign autographs? This makes no sense at all.

  11. i wonder if the NCAA will allow him to play the entire year and any postseason games as long as he makes a “promise” to his coaches that he’ll return for the 2014 season. it would only be fair now that they opened up that can of worms with OSU.

  12. This kid is quickly becoming my least favorite college football star. He seems quite dumb…beyond the typical naivete of a college underclassman. He is also arrogant and has a bad sense of entitlement. That said, the kid will draw ratings. The NCAA will start an “investigation” that will last through the first couple weeks in January. Manziel will remain eligible and then declare his intention for the 2014 draft as the NCAA suspends him for a junior year he never intended on playing.

  13. So his own name is not his according to the NCAA? I am sorry, but if someone wants to pay him for his own name – who cares? There are kids starving in America – someone get a clue.

  14. Was the autograph broker named Harvey Updyke? This is an elaborate ploy to prevent Manziel from playing against Alabama week 3. College Football Fans, lets not lose sight of who we all really hate here, NICK SATAN!!!

  15. So we all knew that he is an undersized QB. But we now know that he is not that bright either. He might be drafted next year. But only if he doesn’t humiliate himself anymore than he already has. If I were a GM, I wouldn’t touch this guy. He obviously has internal issues , and now a year away from football isn’t gonna help the little fella.

  16. Atleast he’s not a good guy that is nothing but polite to everyone, goes on trips to help people less fortunate than him, and is the hardest worker in the building. The media would never hate on a guy like that. TT would have never done this, but got scrutinized for “crying” on the field.

  17. He knew the rules, and did it any ways, the guy is dumb.

    As for the argument of paying college football players, please. Most of these kids get part or all of their school paid for, unlike most of us who are riddled with debt for at least 10 years (usually a lot more) leaving school with a degree.

    Playing NCAA football is like an internship for any other job. I worked for free at my first internship (yes I know some pay, see my previous paragraph) for a year and half. Yeah it sucked, but what it did was polish my skills, put me in real life situations to better myself in my profession. Not to mention that it allowed me to network and meet potential employers.

    Sound familiar?

    Even if a college football player’s goal is not to enter the NFL, its still a great way to get some kind of funding for your education and/or some sweet perks of living the college life. Those dorms/gyms etc. are pretty nice, would have loved to use those while I was at college.

    Sorry for the rant, but having went to college with only the help of myself, I don’t feel bad for college football players and their inability to be paid for playing.

  18. jacobknicks says:
    Aug 6, 2013 3:42 PM
    how does it benefit the”the broker” by spilling his guts?


    That’s a question I’ve been asking myself all week.

  19. Yep, “you never did a signing with me” will surely trump meeting this guy in a very public airport and signing 300 helmets while people snapped pictures. That’ll cover all is bases right there.

  20. Regardless of the NCAA rules being fair or not, they are still the rules.

    This kid needs someone to knock some sense into him. The ONLY prayer this kid has is to be drafted in ghe 5th round or later by a team with a no questioned starter (Green Bay, Atlanta, Pittsburgh, Baltimore) that isnt so old he could retire in the next year or two (Denver, New England).

    He needs to sit for 3-4 years and grow up if he wants to have ANY shot at making it in the NFL.

  21. How much money has Texas A&M made off of a player like Manziel? He is a college kid like any other, he needs spending money. Between school and football, how can a kid like him have time for a part time job to earn some extra money? These rules are bs… signing a couple autographs sure beats him selling dime bags for a little extra spending money. This kid has been crucified for every little thing he has done, when in reality he is not that bad of a kid. Just a product of these bs rules.

  22. how does it benefit the”the broker” by spilling his guts?

    That’s a question I’ve been asking myself all week.

    Cuz he had proof and when you have proof of it, you sell that proof to the higher bidder in the media world. In this case, looks like it was ESPN.

  23. Shows us what you have NCAA, this guy feels he is above it all so show him where he stands, OUT.

  24. dopekidz83 says:Aug 6, 2013 3:37 PM

    Anybody else think he’s going to pull a “Terrell Pryor” by joining the supplemental draft? I think it could be a possibility if he faces an extended suspension.
    Other than the fact is a bit too late for that?
    Pryor did his switcharoo after Tressel got the boot in late May. It is now August and the NFL season starts in 4 weeks.

  25. I thought this was pro football talk? Not college? Anyways, this is so stupid. Why can’t he make a few extra bucks signing autograph’s? It has absolutely nothing to do with playing football. Its the off season. He’s worked hard to make himself who he is, he’s making money off himself. Just shows how selfish the NCAA is. Making millions off these kids who go out and risk their lives with concussions and possibly breaking a neck, and they won’t even let them make a few thousand signing autographs!? Absolutely ridiculous. Why cause it isn’t fair to other college athletes? Not Johnny’s problem no one wants their autograph. Smh

  26. Another Texas(A&M this time). Who could have
    been so great but he seems to believe the Texas
    style hype, like Vince, and will never attain the
    heights that he could have attained.

  27. The rule should be, we the college won’t pay you anything, but if you can make money in any other way like autographs or selling rings or if you can get perks like free tats, more power to you. I just don’t get why its a big deal and how it has an affect on anyone. Money makes the world go round. Our economy could benefit lol…..

  28. He will get a look in the pros. He will no doubt have to answer all the “character” questions, but then he will remind all the pro scoutthat “he’s just 21 year old jerk who made a stupid mistake and I will always live my life the way I want to!”


  29. jaykray says:
    Aug 6, 2013 4:17 PM
    how does it benefit the”the broker” by spilling his guts?

    That’s a question I’ve been asking myself all week.

    Cuz he had proof and when you have proof of it, you sell that proof to the higher bidder in the media world. In this case, looks like it was ESPN.

    Except ESPN didn’t pay him.

    Did he plan the entire time to sell Manziel out? He knew just as Manziel did that what they were doing was against the rules. The broker was probably WELL compensated as Manziel signed for only $25 per signature which is FAR less than market value, as a full sized Manziel signed helmet is on Ebay right now for $1500. The mini is between $150-$600. They are making their money back 10 times over.

    I guarantee that Manziel is not the first to do this. Julio Jones did it at Bama but retained his eligibility because they couldn’t prove the compensation. These brokers will probably never get another college athlete to sign for them again.

  30. If the details are true, Johnny Manziel may have just closed the door on ever playing college football again.

    But, I am confused as to why so many people are giving him a verbal shellacking. Manziel is being pimped out by every single outlet, including his college and the “institution” that is supposed to educate and protect him.

    Texas A & M auctioned a seat with Manziel at dinner for $20k. NCAA continues to show his highlight films while ESPN airs Manziel-related news every hour.

    Everyone is making money off his abilities except for himself, how is that ok?

    If he decided to make money off his name I don’t blame him. Why is it fair for the rest of the world to collect cash for his services while he has to watch and not collect a single penny.

    The NCAA is a bunch of scumbags, they are a billion dollar industry that refuses to pay its athletes anything.

    Manziel should be allowed to cash in on his services, everyone else in the world is able to.

    I was a college manager of a men’s D1 basketball team and I was provided services the “average” student wasn’t.

    Athletes have their own lunch halls, classes, and even dorms. However, if they decide to accept benefits to make them wealthier than shame on them.

    The NCAA can prevent Manziel from playing but it doesn’t remove the simple fact that money is being passed around to everyone but the ones responsible for generating the $.

  31. His folks must have known about these autograph meetings and deals. Perhaps his parents’ interview with ESPN was an attempt to garner sympathy for Johnny knowing this kind of trouble was coming down the pipe.

    This NCAA action could’ve been what his dad was hinting at when he said “it could come unraveled, and when it does, it’s going to be bad. Real bad.”

    “Real Bad” is the telltale note.

  32. The question right now is not “whether college football players should be allowed to receive compensation”.

    There is a rule, whether you like it nor not. If you don’t, challenge it. This guy is just plain stupid because:
    1. he doesn’t need the money – his folks are well-off (not rich, but definitely not strapped for money).
    2. he has grown larger than the football program at A&M. There is a large alumni base here in Houston and it seems to be unanimous – people want him kicked off the team.
    3. This sheds a negative light on A&M and NCAA.
    4. How can you really be a student and learn if you are in Indianapolis today, Oklahoma city tomorrow and Austin, TX the day after that?
    5. the more pressing question is how is he NOT failing considering that he has not being to class in almost 6 months? Can you take online classes and graduate at A&M?

  33. Hey jaykray, I’d think you’d feel a little different if your school brought in revenue to the tune of $250,000,000 using your name, image, and accomplishments and all you got was a scholarship. I don’t think the people at your free internship got $250 million out of you. If he were a normal player, you’d have a point there maybe, but he isn’t. He is a massive revenue generator for both the school and NCAA. So the school and the NCAA can profit off of you, but this kid might not be able to play over $7,500? I don’t care if he knew the rules. The rules are wrong.

  34. If athletes have learned anything this summer, it should be that due to social media and technology, they’re seconds away from being the lead story on ESPN on any given night.

    It doesn’t even have to be a real story, based on the weekly update on which parties a college kid is attending.

    Can you imagine what twitter and youtube would have looked like back in the 80’s?

  35. dopekidz83 says:Aug 6, 2013 3:37 PM

    Anybody else think he’s going to pull a “Terrell Pryor” by joining the supplemental draft? I think it could be a possibility if he faces an extended suspension.

    First, the supplemental draft has already passed. They do that before training camps open. Second, he isn’t eligible to be drafted until after this season. Third, he’ll be eligible for the regular draft after this season.

  36. The problem this kid has is his sense of entitlement, arrogance and blatant disregard for the rules. This isn’t a case of a kid receiving an airplane ticket home or getting into a movie, getting free tattoos that may or may not have been obvious infractions. But he KNEW, obviously, the moves he was making were not legal and permissible. That makes him a complete idiot and NFL teams are going to factor that into their decisions more than anything…

  37. Has anything been proven, no. S7,500 for autographs? Yea I’m sure he’s so stupid to ruin his career for the costs of college texts books, yes they cost that much now. All he’s done is party, he didn’t use the “N” word, drive drunk, or murder anybody so why does everybody hate this guy? If you guys hate Texas tell your teams to quit taking our players.

  38. I’m no one special, but if someone out there was willing to pay me for my autograph, why should I not be allowed to do so?

    If I put one of my old collegiate hoodies with my name in the collar up for sale on eBay, no big deal. If someone like Manziel did the exact same thing, he’s receiving compensation for memorabilia.

    I don’t get it, why does playing a sport for a school mean you can’t sell things that belong to you?

  39. joesteelersfan58 says: Aug 6, 2013 4:56 PM

    Hey jaykray, I’d think you’d feel a little different if your school brought in revenue to the tune of $250,000,000 using your name, image, and accomplishments and all you got was a scholarship. I don’t think the people at your free internship got $250 million out of you. If he were a normal player, you’d have a point there maybe, but he isn’t. He is a massive revenue generator for both the school and NCAA. So the school and the NCAA can profit off of you, but this kid might not be able to play over $7,500? I don’t care if he knew the rules. The rules are wrong.


    Uhhh, no not quite that much, but it was a nice amount.

    I also work for a company that pays me a lot less than the amount of money I bring in for them. Which is… ya know… how every company works. And face it, schools are companies. They make profit, its how they survive.

    If you take the cost of a getting a degree from a major university, lets say Arkansas, which cost about $34,000 for in-state and $56,000 for out-of-state, that gives you an average of $45,000 a person spends/is in debt for when they graduate.

    The average college grad in the US is paid $44,259 (for 2012) to work for a company that brings in millions and a lot of the time, billions of dollars in profit.

    Keep in mind that each college player does not bring in $250,000,000 on their own.

    So in the end, do I feel bad for a NCAA football player who will, on average be compensated more than the average college grad and have not have a student loan debt and will possibly go on to cash in on hundreds of thousands, if not millions more.

    No. I don’t feel differently.

  40. A bunch of poor kids from Ohio State would never have the resources this guy will. The NCAA better be really careful squeezing this guy. (His family has big $).

  41. If Manziel gets away with this, the NCAA should have a class action lawsuit filed by every single athlete and their school that has ever been penalized by the NCAA for rule breaking. It’s a can of worm I love to see get opened.

    Key words “Rule Breaking”. I can’t stand the NCAA and their archaic rules, but those are their rule as of 2013. I don’t like many of them but if Maziel can spit on them and be allowed to play, then its time to employ lots of lawyers on a national level and keep the NCAA in court forever until it is rendered obsolete by the newly forming mega conferences. I nominate Shalala to lead the pack as her school is about to get hit with sanctions.

    For Manziel’s enablers that keep with the idiotic ‘he’s only a college kid’ crap, there was no such defense with Reggie Bush, Newton, Pryor, and many others. He has now affected his team and perhaps his NFL career. He’s finally getting his wake up call.

  42. what are athletes thinking? Everybody knows that nothing that is yours (like bowl jerseys and your frigging SIGNATURE) – if the ncaa (who makes millions from the universities who are making millions off of these kids) doesn’t get their piece – why, it can’t be legal and you must be punished…that would be called extortion in the real world!

  43. There had better be a paper trail because if not it’s the brokers word against his and guess whose going to be believed? I would not just take the broker’s word for it. Would you? There is no rule against him signing helmets, only for accepting money for it. They must prove he did that. I am not sure they can.

  44. Hello. I’m an autograph broker. Part of my job as I see it is offering under-the-table payments to college football players that jeopardize their ability to play college football.

    These kids who generate billions of dollars for the NCAA’s universities by playing every year can’t get anything beyond room and board and tuition thanks to rules that were devised about oh 70 years ago before this became a billion-dollar enterprise.

    So when I offer a kid a chance to sink his entire college career for a mere $7,500, he’s likely to take it.

    What a wonderful world we live in, eh?

    [PS; i’m not really an autograph broker; I’m just explaining how the guy that approached Manziel likely views his ‘job’ ]

  45. First I’ll preface this by saying that this guy seems like an idiot.

    But still, it’s ridiculous this he can’t own his own signature. His school and the NCAA can make millions off of him, but he can’t make a dime off himself. And no, a scholarship doesn’t count, because in the real world he’d be paid a lot more, and he wouldn’t go to school in the first place. The only reason this is debatable is because the NCAA has some sort of sacred monopoly on many amateur athletes.

    I know this isn’t a popular opinion, and say what you want, but it’s still garbage. If you were a star collegiate athlete, you’d probably agree.

  46. I don’t see why that should be a problem really. It is not like he is getting paid to play (other than the few bucks the NCAA gives players). The college athlete should be able to make as much money off of their name as the NCAA does.

    Here is a question. How much money does the NCAA make off of the jerseys with these kids names on them? Where does that money go? I think it is due time the NCAA athletes all got together and threatened a stoppage over this nonsense. Someone gets rich while the players hope they can make a living while trying to get through college. It is a scam.

  47. People need to stop crying for these poor “oppressed” student athletes. Johnny Manziel’s autograph wouldn’t be worth anything if it weren’t for COLLEGE FOOTBALL. College football made him, he didn’t make college football. If there was no college football there wouldn’t be a Heisman trophy, and he would be just another bonehead 20 year old that played high school football.

    Players don’t just get tuition, room and board, books, tutoring, advising, and monthly stipends for free, they also get to train year round at world class caliber facilities for free, have access to great strength and conditioning coaches(for free), are coached by some of the best football coaches in the country(for free), if they get injured the school takes care of it. The school pays for all travel expenses.

    A bunch of players at most schools redshirt every year, and a lot of these guys never make the school any money. Some guys who have career ending injuries still get there scholarship to last their whole time in college even players who were never stars.

    People seem to always have a problem with rookies getting guaranteed millions before they ever play in the NFL, but no one ever talks about how college football is the reason these “oppressed athletes” get to be millionaires right out of school. But yeah, keep going on about how these poor kids are being taken advantage of.

  48. I don’t have a problem with him selling his autograph. My question is… Why do people buy them?

  49. This is my solution to the Johnny Manziel mess. Set up a trust fund for every college athlete. They can make money with endorsements and selling autographs, but the money goes into the trust fund. The trust fund is untouchable until all the scholarships the athlete received are reimbursed. After that, the money is free and clear to the athlete. The repaid scholarship goes to fund future scholarships. If the athlete is not popular enough to make more money than the scholarships (in a less popular sport, perhaps), they still have been “paid” by their scholarship because they don’t reimburse for it.

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