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Minnesota governor wants one final review of stadium deal after fraud verdict

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The NFL doesn’t plan to take action in the wake of the civil fraud verdict against Vikings owners Zygi and Mark Wilf.  But Minnesota governor Mark Dayton apparently will.

According to KSTP-TV, Dayton is “deeply concerned” about a New Jersey judge’s findings of fraud committed by the Wilfs in a business transaction.  The 21-year-old lawsuit arose from allegedly inaccurate financial accounting in connection with a partnership that built and maintained an apartment complex in New Jersey.

In the wake of the ruling, Dayton has urged a final review of the Vikings stadium deal to ensure that there was no fraud or other inappropriate business dealings.

“I would urge the [Stadium Authority] to have its legal counsel assure them and the people of Minnesota that all the representations made by the team and its owners are truthful and accurate,” Dayton said.

The final paperwork regarding the stadium construction has still not been signed.

The Vikings continue to characterize the situation as a “private business matter,” but it could become a very public business crisis in Minnesota, if a final review is conducted, and if anything improper is discovered.

Dayton said he wasn’t aware of the New Jersey litigation when the stadium deal was reached with the Vikings.

While we’ve got no issue with folks in Minnesota ensuring that they weren’t the victims of fraud or any other corporate chicanery, it would be unwise to use the verdict as cover to undo or sweeten a deal about which Dayton or others in government may now have remorse.  Amid news that airport-based electronic gambling that was expected to raise $3 million in 2013 has resulted in $33,586 through six months, there’s a chance that the politicians made bad assumptions about the public funding mechanisms.

If so, that’s not something that can fairly be blamed on the Wilfs.That reality may not stop Dayton or other politicians from trying.

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  1. ravenmuscle says: Aug 8, 2013 11:05 AM

    No surprise that NEW YORK ZIGGY had some crooked dealings in his past.

    Just like the NEW YORK LERNER’S were a bad choice of owners of the Cleveland Browns and now the ..out of town HASLAM’s are found to be crooked cheats.

  2. youarejealousof6rings says: Aug 8, 2013 11:05 AM

    The LA Vikings.

  3. kacimlangford says: Aug 8, 2013 11:06 AM

    I think the lawyers would have found something “fraudulent” when it was all written up. Can’t hurt to take a second look but I am sure there will be nothing found.

    I don’t see any way of Gov. “let’s tax them some more” is getting this stadium deal voided.

  4. taintedsaints2009 says: Aug 8, 2013 11:08 AM

    Durrrrrrrr I’m a trust fund child who gets elected on the premise of taxing the rich, and then I use tax payer money to give to billionaires. Did somebody say terror threat? Better hide under my desk.

  5. vkngs77 says: Aug 8, 2013 11:09 AM

    How is it possible Dayton didn’t know about the New Jersey litigation. Every purple rube in MN knew about it. Politicians suck.

  6. godofwine330 says: Aug 8, 2013 11:09 AM

    The worst thing you can be in business is a liar and that’s the truth.

  7. ruvelligwebuike says: Aug 8, 2013 11:10 AM

    No surprise that the gambling isn’t making any money. The culture of Minnesota is not conducive to having any sort of expendable cash whatsoever.

    You must have a $600,000 mortgage on a cookie cutter suburban house, $90,000 in car loans, and $20,000 in CC debt to be a true Minnesotan. The image of sophistication MUST be preserved!

    That said, there are some good things about this story for the Viking fans. After review, they will find that they have drastically overestimated the cost of demolition on the Dome. New evidence and historical study suggests that 3″ of wet snow usually makes it fall down. The power of nature, harnessed. That’s how they do it in their progressive, elite world that is superior to all other states.

  8. jrmbadger says: Aug 8, 2013 11:11 AM

    Wilf should be in jail based on that verdict instead of a new luxury box, but once again corporate big wigs evade justice. The rest of us would be in jail if we pulled that stuff.

  9. contra74 says: Aug 8, 2013 11:12 AM

    Nice try Governor. Try to flex when there is no flexing needed.

  10. 7ransponder says: Aug 8, 2013 11:14 AM

    taintedsaints2009 says:
    Aug 8, 2013 11:08 AM
    Durrrrrrrr I’m a trust fund child who gets elected on the premise of taxing the rich, and then I use tax payer money to give to billionaires. Did somebody say terror threat? Better hide under my desk.

    ————————

    I agree with this sentiment, but hey, it could be worse – we could have Scott Walker as our gov.

  11. vikings2102 says: Aug 8, 2013 11:16 AM

    How about team license plates?! Other NFL teams do it and it seems to work well. Hell, it can’t do worse then electronic pull tabs!!!

  12. purpleguy says: Aug 8, 2013 11:26 AM

    Granted, the Wilfs probably screwed some guy in a NY business deal; however, does our Governor seriously think the Wilfs were able to defraud the House, Senate, the City of Minneapolis, Hennepin County and the Governor’s office? While they may have duped the public into a stadium subsidy like every other team in the NFL stadium, the legislative deal terms were set out publicly and reviewed/hashed over by about a million separate eyes. The legislation is passed and now law — stop the political grandstanding.

  13. mountaindont says: Aug 8, 2013 11:26 AM

    I keep programming my dvr to record “The Biggest Loser” and it keeps recording Viking games.

  14. contra74 says: Aug 8, 2013 11:28 AM

    Not a big deal at all. Stadium has been approved. Construction papers have not. Stadium will move on as planned. Let the spinning by the usual trolls begin.

  15. jaykray says: Aug 8, 2013 11:29 AM

    This coming from the guy who didnt know builder’s licenses were a “key component” of the stadium deal.

    Not sure how the Wilfs would be pulling one over on him, if it was his people that actually…ya know… wrote the bill. Not to mention, it was him to “supposedly” read it.

    Sounds like he just wants to jump on a chance to actually read it this time so it looks like he is not as dumb as he actually is.

    And this is coming from someone who supported the stadium and supported Dayton’s involvement in the stadium agreement.

  16. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Aug 8, 2013 11:31 AM

    I’d like to do a final review of Mark Dayton’s term as governor, because I think he may have committed fraud when he portrayed himself as competent.

  17. gbpshareholder says: Aug 8, 2013 11:35 AM

    Even when something good finally happens to this team… their state wants to mess with it… Lets just hope they never host games under that balloon again…

  18. otis52gsh says: Aug 8, 2013 11:36 AM

    ……and the laughing continues at the 0 Super Bowl win Vikings.

  19. contra74 says: Aug 8, 2013 11:37 AM

    mountaindont says:
    Aug 8, 2013 11:26 AM
    I keep programming my dvr to record “The Biggest Loser” and it keeps recording Viking games.
    —–
    Maybe your DVR is trying to tell you to lose some weight fatty.

  20. skoobyfl says: Aug 8, 2013 11:39 AM

    It’s pretty naïve to think that most of the new owners didn’t take advantage of someone to get the money to buy a team, it’s not like the money was donated to them.

  21. hrmlss says: Aug 8, 2013 11:39 AM

    lol! Maybe playing outdoors for more than 2 years after all!

  22. granadafan says: Aug 8, 2013 11:42 AM

    The Wilfs demanded and threatened that the taxpayers in Minnesota pay for their lavish palace of work. They bribed, gave campaign “donations”, to lobby legislators to make sure the crooked politicians gave taxpayer money to these multibillionaires.

    The governor has every right to investigate these crooks since the Wilfs used taxpayer money for their luxury stadium.

  23. Carl Gerbschmidt says: Aug 8, 2013 11:42 AM

    I wonder how many bodies will be encased in the concrete footings of metrodump 2.0…

  24. chillyball says: Aug 8, 2013 11:44 AM

    C’mon, man! Ziggy IS J e w ish AND from NY!

  25. rbirving says: Aug 8, 2013 11:44 AM

    I think its the smart thing to do, plenty of Minnesotans are wondering the same thing after hearing the verdict, it only makes sense to look it over to be able to tell the tax payers that its all on the up and up.

  26. themike31 says: Aug 8, 2013 11:53 AM

    Must be horrible to play in a city where your fans aren’t willing to financially support the team’s efforts to grow.

  27. burrito12 says: Aug 8, 2013 11:57 AM

    I agree with this sentiment, but hey, it could be worse – we could have Scott Walker as our gov.
    ———————————————————————————–

    Yeah, having a true conservative with a pair who can balance a budget, create a surplus, cut out unnecessary spending and fraud, freeze tuition hikes, bust corrupt money grabbing unions and lower taxes sure does suck. You can keep your Libby governor, ours is doing a fantastic job!

  28. couple1314 says: Aug 8, 2013 12:00 PM

    Mark Dayton is an idiotic, trust fund spending, tax and spend, pill popping, moron who has no clue how the private sector works.

  29. wipackman1265 says: Aug 8, 2013 12:06 PM

    I gotta laugh at Sotans who can’t recognize their owner is a criminal, their RB is a steroid cheater and their new receiver is an idiot…… Disaster looms …… Again !!!!

  30. firestarter0728 says: Aug 8, 2013 12:07 PM

    Not only do the Vikings suck, but their owner is a crook! Hahahahaha!!!!

  31. whatjusthapped says: Aug 8, 2013 12:12 PM

    This is rich. Politicians are among the biggest liars, frauds, and cheats and I can only imagine that Dayton ordered the audit to see if there is an angle that he missed that he might use later on down the road.

    The Vikings have historically been one of the most morally bankrupt franchises in the NFL. Head coaches sexually harassing their employees, they invented the whizanator and no to mention one of the most humiliating black eyes in all of football (Love boat).

    Seems like the Ziggy is the perfect owner for the Vikings, a fraud.

  32. truehoosier62 says: Aug 8, 2013 12:19 PM

    What I don’t agree with, is Dayton coming out publicly with this nonsense. If he really wanted to insure that the Wilfs hadn’t pulled a fast one on the state of Minnesota’s taxpayers, he could just as easily have said something behind closed doors to his allies in the House and Senate. This way, it looks like nothing more than grandstanding and window dressing. Trouble is, the vehicles for creating revenue for the stadium construction aren’t as robust as he’d hoped, so he’s trying to now look like the ultimate protector of the people. Too late.

    Whatever happened 21 years ago, between the Wilfs and someone in New Jersey, is nothing more than filler material for newspapers.

  33. drich1960 says: Aug 8, 2013 12:20 PM

    I’ve been a Vikings fan sense 1964 and even I know those jagoff liberals in Minnesota don’t deserve a team. Move em to LA (more Jagoff liberals)so I can drive over from Phoenix to see the games. Minnesota can better use (waste) the money by handing it out to their ever increasing swarm of third world immigrant welfare trash.

  34. mrlaloosh says: Aug 8, 2013 12:28 PM

    Scott Walker? Didn’t you Vikqueens elect Jesse Ventura? Bwaaabwaaahaaa…..

  35. brobokil says: Aug 8, 2013 12:32 PM

    Also, burrito12, most of your state HATES your lying, cheating, corrupt COMMUNITY COLLEGE DROPOUT of a Governor.

    1 “cut out unnecessary spending and fraud”. Yeah, those damn teachers! How dare they TEACH!

    2. “freeze tuition hikes”, I think you mean “Make it difficult to impossible for college students to vote”. My girlfriend has been a Wisconsin resident all her life prior to Scott Walker, and she wasn’t allowed to vote in the Walker recall because he created laws making it impossible for her to vote just because she switched to Duluth to finish her college education because there were no feasible colleges in northern Wisconsin that she could go to to finish her major.

    3. “bust corrupt money grabbing unions”. Yeah, because only corrupt Governors with millionaires with private agendas to back them should be allowed to have any power.

  36. tokyosandblaster says: Aug 8, 2013 12:36 PM

    Come on, politicians!

    This fan base deserves a new stadium. One that mirrors their devotion, and the team’s dedication to winning.

    Which is why it should be built in Los Angeles. This team and fan base are the worst in sports history, and it’s not close.

  37. kacimlangford says: Aug 8, 2013 12:36 PM

    I still find it funny that people think the Wilfs are taking the state for a ride.

    The Vikings will use the stadium 10 days a year. The State can use it for any other thing they want. They will get all the revenue from those events.

    People who think it is only a Vikings stadium are uninformed and ignorant. Or they just like to complain about anything that doesn’t give them something for doing nothing.

  38. brobokil says: Aug 8, 2013 12:38 PM

    All you two-faced Dayton haters that are complaining about a friggin FINAL REVIEW have YET to actually state any reason for Dayton NOT to do due diligence in light of this news, especially since the court ruling included allegations that there were also unlawful business practices involved with the football side of the Wilf’s business.

    I’m a big Wilf fan, I don’t know what happened 20 years ago, and honestly, I don’t care. Rich people squabbling with other rich people. All I care is that Zygi has been great to our team, but if he did do anything illegal involving my team, I want to know about it, and there’s NO reason not to just review and make sure everything is correct and legal.

  39. ruvelligwebuike says: Aug 8, 2013 12:42 PM

    Look at that picture…

    The power of Minnesota personified.

  40. contra74 says: Aug 8, 2013 12:42 PM

    themike31 says:
    Aug 8, 2013 11:53 AM
    Must be horrible to play in a city where your fans aren’t willing to financially support the team’s efforts to grow.

    Not really. The players care about the salary paid by the team. Last I checked, the taxpayers went paying the players their salary.

  41. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Aug 8, 2013 12:43 PM

    Zygi is from New Jersey. Not New York. He gets things done Jersey-style.

  42. icecubeusedtobeangry says: Aug 8, 2013 12:47 PM

    Not a big deal

  43. contra74 says: Aug 8, 2013 12:55 PM

    mrlaloosh says:
    Aug 8, 2013 12:28 PM
    Scott Walker? Didn’t you Vikqueens elect Jesse Ventura? Bwaaabwaaahaaa…..
    —–
    Ventura>Scott Walker any day!

    Keep trying. Work harder at those comebacks!

  44. thestrategyexpert says: Aug 8, 2013 1:03 PM

    If I was the Mayor I would say there is no possible way of dealing with Wilf. Maybe if he’s willing to go through a personal inspection and pay up for any other injustices he has committed in his life, but not before then, he’s damaged goods and should be kicked to the curb and not trusted with a high profile business deal. Absolutely not.

  45. purplengold says: Aug 8, 2013 1:13 PM

    Thanks to the the unions we have a five day work week; they care about the common working people. Not drunken fascists like Mark Dayton.

  46. bigbluefan1 says: Aug 8, 2013 1:15 PM

    Guess what folks I can promise that Ziggy is screwing you.

    Big time business man takes on the rubes of MN
    I am sure that it is a win for Ziggy and loss for the taxpayers

  47. icecubeusedtobeangry says: Aug 8, 2013 1:31 PM

    The nice thing about living in Minnesota, if the Vikings leave its not that big of a loss. I can afford the TV packages and the nice TV to watch them no matter where they move to. If I lived east of my location, I would not have much other than football to live for…may present a problem if the team left, as I can imagine that it would be hard to afford the Sunday Ticket on a blue collar salary.

  48. burrito12 says: Aug 8, 2013 1:44 PM

    Also, burrito12, most of your state HATES your lying, cheating, corrupt COMMUNITY COLLEGE DROPOUT of a Governor.

    ———————————————————————————-

    Most huh? Well, where were all these haters when he won 2 elections in 2 years? Did they all transfer to Duluth for school and not know how to obtain an absentee ballot?

    Typical liberal though, blame your problems On someone else.

  49. pcoisma says: Aug 8, 2013 1:52 PM

    The land of a thousand lies or lakes? Vikings to LA BABY !! Whoo Whoo,

  50. arnoldziffel says: Aug 8, 2013 2:00 PM

    Coming this fall at Gopher Hole Stadium:

    Vikings enter the field … to the theme of The Godfather ….

  51. bzillaz says: Aug 8, 2013 2:04 PM

    “Deeply concerned”? Really? Don’t be a douche! What multimillionaire hasn’t ever been sued?….and……..21 freakin’ years ago! Silly!

  52. glac1 says: Aug 8, 2013 2:04 PM

    now they need a “Plan B”…This deal is dead.

  53. boothlustig says: Aug 8, 2013 2:04 PM

    Looks like Mark Dayton and Greg Jennings have been ‘brainwashed.’ Both better get their acts together to keep the team in Minn.

  54. gbmickey says: Aug 8, 2013 2:14 PM

    33K in 6 months what a joke. This shows the difference between a fan base that helps donate money in the form of stocks to keep a team viable vs a bandwagon fan base who is on the verge of losing a 3rd franchise because of lack of support. To top it off they have a crook for an owner. You call yourselves fans.

  55. couple1314 says: Aug 8, 2013 2:15 PM

    purplengold says: Aug 8, 2013 1:13 PM

    Thanks to the the unions we have a five day work week; they care about the common working people. Not drunken fascists like Mark Dayton.

    ——————————————————–

    Then why do they donate so much to Dayton’s, and every other liberal’s campaigns? Unions are a drain on the taxpayers and the productivity of the country.

    OSHA protects your right to work, unions are antiquated entities.

  56. 7ransponder says: Aug 8, 2013 2:18 PM

    burrito12 says:
    Aug 8, 2013 11:57 AM
    I agree with this sentiment, but hey, it could be worse – we could have Scott Walker as our gov.
    ———————————————————————————–

    Yeah, having a true conservative with a pair who can balance a budget, create a surplus, cut out unnecessary spending and fraud, freeze tuition hikes, bust corrupt money grabbing unions and lower taxes sure does suck. You can keep your Libby governor, ours is doing a fantastic job!

    —————————–

    While at the same time sending WI to the depths of economic performance, jobs, and best states for businesses (small and large corps) ranking in the 40′s of 50 on each of these indicators. Meanwhile, MN has nearly the most fortune 500 companies per capita, is almost leading the nation in job creation and unemployment.

    All your ultra-conservative gov’s efforts to sell the state’s services to hoarder business interests mean nothing if consumers aren’t spending because there’s no jobs.

    Anyway, this is all political lip service. Next spring the new stadium project will break ground as planned and Valhalla will rise from the Metrodump’s ashes, to the envy of all who enter its hallowed gates. Those who don’t see it with their own eyes will be resigned to make fun of the stadium from behind their internet anonymity because they can’t afford to go to the games due to being across the border to the east and jobless (unless of course they sought employment in the land of 10,00 lakes).

  57. pack13queens0 says: Aug 8, 2013 2:21 PM

    Ladies & Gentlemen, your Los Angeles Vikings. Look at it this way, they’ll be playing to REAL Sellout crowds in LA & Minnesota can watch their favorite team (Green Bay Packers) play every week without needing NFL Sunday Ticket.

  58. vikingfan1971 says: Aug 8, 2013 2:23 PM

    the vikings are not moving to LA they are staying IN MN so get over it people, who want them to move.

  59. filthymcnasty1 says: Aug 8, 2013 2:32 PM

    Just when Viking fans were starting to feel a little better about themselves.

  60. vikingfan1971 says: Aug 8, 2013 2:37 PM

    greenbay will never be my fav team get over yourself packer fan, they are not moving.

  61. 7ransponder says: Aug 8, 2013 2:41 PM

    couple1314 says:
    Aug 8, 2013 2:15 PM
    purplengold says: Aug 8, 2013 1:13 PM

    Thanks to the the unions we have a five day work week; they care about the common working people. Not drunken fascists like Mark Dayton.

    ——————————————————–

    Then why do they donate so much to Dayton’s, and every other liberal’s campaigns? Unions are a drain on the taxpayers and the productivity of the country.

    OSHA protects your right to work, unions are antiquated entities.

    ——————————————————–

    OSHA does not, however, protect your right to fair wages. You should know a lot about that in WI, where economic security is about two fingers away from losing its tenuous grip on the cliff that will send you snuggling up to your friends across the lake in Michigan, and next door in Illinois.

  62. northstarsmitty says: Aug 8, 2013 2:44 PM

    Mark Dayton is an idiot. I love the state of Minneosta, but all its citizens are blinded by social propoganda, thinking our state is somehow special now for being trendy. “brobokil”- you make a solid point. Dayton is the ONLY reason this stadium bill has been dragging by the feet. No one thought the gambling would work, there were far better options (such as ACTUALLY taxing every citizen of the state, or at least Hennepin County- a few dollars a person is actually plenty towards the total cost) but no, Dayton had to look tough and in power and botched this entire thing. It is glued together by those who actually know they are doing. The Wilfs aren’t forking over a huge pie of the cost, now it seems obvious as to why. Dayton and Franken have helped set MN backwards for too long now. Lots of patch work to be done once they are finally out of office!

  63. northstarsmitty says: Aug 8, 2013 2:47 PM

    7ransponder- you nailed it! DO people not realize unions basically just take your money, promise pensions, but use all of thier profit to fund the gov’t and liberal campaigns. constant exchange of pat on the back favors that always lose sight of the working man they supposedly are fighting for. Look at Detroit, do you think they like unions anymore, think those employees that were promised pensions are content with getting nothing after all?!

  64. 7ransponder says: Aug 8, 2013 2:51 PM

    That should have been 10,000 lakes :P

  65. vikings2102 says: Aug 8, 2013 3:00 PM

    Still, the biggest failure of this whole situation is the new stadium being put in MPLS (with little to no tailgating) instead of being pu tin Arden Hills (where it should have been put). Look at Jacksoville, Arizona, Green Bay…..they all have stadiums with ample tailgating (probably more then needed) and their fans love it (well, except for Jacksonville). They built around those stadiums. That’s what we should have done here!!

  66. ruvelligwebuike says: Aug 8, 2013 3:07 PM

    @northstarsmitty

    Sorry bud, but that was someone else. 7ransponder is the socially propagandized pinko that you pointed out as the problem. Re-read the thread.

  67. purplengold says: Aug 8, 2013 3:11 PM

    OSHA does not protect your right to work. It helps keep your workplace safe. Unions are the only entity that cares about fair wages. Our government spends over half of our tax dollars on “defense” and then cries about how unions hurt business. This myth started with Reagan as he broke the air traffic controllers union; they struck to have obsolete equipment replaced. Stop our endless wars and we won’t have to tax small businesses to death.

  68. valhallarising says: Aug 8, 2013 3:14 PM

    I never understand why some football “fans” would want or root for another team to move to a different location. I love the Vikings and never want them to move, and I would never wish that another city’s fans would lose their team. You’re a sad person if you get off on other people’s sadness. Stop with the stupid LA Vikings comments!

  69. Dogsweat says: Aug 8, 2013 3:15 PM

    The Rams hold the NFC spot for L.A. in 2015.

    The only spot open for the Vikings is San Antonio or Des Moines or Portland.

  70. 52lightsxout52 says: Aug 8, 2013 3:57 PM

    Amid news that airport-based electronic gambling that was expected to raise $3 million in 2013 has resulted in $33,586 through six months, there’s a chance that the politicians made bad assumptions about the public funding mechanisms.

    _____________________________________________

    Indeed. Not only did they get the numbers wrong on projected sales, but these types of projects NEVER come in under budget.

    “Mr. Wilf??? L.A. is on Line 1…”

  71. aldante66 says: Aug 8, 2013 4:01 PM

    Bad assumptions? Bad assumptions? Were talking freeking Minnesota, land of high taxes and dems who spend every waking moment dreaming up ways to spend money they don’t have.

    Of course Ziggy is a crook. He could have taken the LA route but steadfast. He didn’t do that out of love. A few years after the new stadium deal is done he can unload the team for a ton of money. Its all about resale baby.

    He can then use his newfound money to buy a team and put them in LA and pay cash.

  72. toolbox72 says: Aug 8, 2013 5:07 PM

    ruvelligwebuike says:
    Aug 8, 2013 11:10 AM

    You must have a $600,000 mortgage on a cookie cutter suburban house, $90,000 in car loans, and $20,000 in CC debt to be a true Minnesotan.

    When you made this statement of course you realized you are referring to the most dramatically conservative suburbs of the twin cities…Right?

  73. theuglitruth says: Aug 8, 2013 6:20 PM

    Minnesota, their governor, and residents….you don’t want to pay for a stadium….let them move! There is a city in the US that wants that “burden” you have….thanks – Los Angeles

  74. filthymcnasty1 says: Aug 8, 2013 6:37 PM

    Unlike Packer fans, Viking fans can’t really afford to have a decent stadium. They’re happy enough with the Metrodump, and their trailer homes.

  75. sterling7 says: Aug 8, 2013 7:12 PM

    As a Viking 4life since 1968 I am not worried about some white collar crime of 21 years ago. I live in St. Paul MN and have lived here my whole life. I want to know where these Minnesota politicians got 1 billion dollars to build this trolley railway system that nobody wanted. People need work (jobs), food and clothing and they wasted allllllllll this money on a railway system just to make themselves look good. Politicians love to throw the bull around but never own up to any of it!

  76. contra74 says: Aug 8, 2013 9:33 PM

    filthymcnasty1 says:
    Aug 8, 2013 6:37 PM
    Unlike Packer fans, Viking fans can’t really afford to have a decent stadium. They’re happy enough with the Metrodump, and their trailer homes.

    Lambeau has high school bleachers for seats. You lose.

  77. 52lightsxout52 says: Aug 9, 2013 10:52 AM

    @vikings2102:

    You’re right. All kidding aside, I have heard from older Viking fans about how the tailgating used to be spectacular at the old Met stadium, and they killed it with the building of the MetroDome. I was one who thought they would’ve considered fan input (along with using their common sense) and made the tailgating experience a priority in the planning of this stadium project. But as with so many other NFL cities, they’re more concerned with appeasing the 1%ers and their luxury box accomodations, rather than the peasants and their tailgating tradition…

  78. ruvelligwebuike says: Aug 9, 2013 2:41 PM

    “When you made this statement of course you realized you are referring to the most dramatically conservative suburbs of the twin cities…Right?”
    ———————

    Considering 60% of the state’s population is in the suburbs of MSP, it would make sense. Also, it is profoundly liberal according to voting, so I’m not sure what you are getting at.

  79. teamnorsecore says: Aug 10, 2013 1:36 AM

    ruvelligwebuike says:
    Aug 9, 2013 2:41 PM
    “When you made this statement of course you realized you are referring to the most dramatically conservative suburbs of the twin cities…Right?”
    ———————

    Considering 60% of the state’s population is in the suburbs of MSP, it would make sense. Also, it is profoundly liberal according to voting, so I’m not sure what you are getting at.
    ……………
    True, most of the population of the state is in MSP…….also true is the 40% that lives outside of MSP are your true, diehard Viking fans……unlike the Cidiots who come and go whenever its hip to cheer for the purple. This outstater lives and dies by the Vikes….always has, always will.

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