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Santana Moss agrees with Shanahan on RG3

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Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III continued his passive-aggressive campaign for preseason snaps this week, and coach Mike Shanahan continued to play bad-cop by saying no.

And at least one player is with Shanahan on this one.

Veteran wideout Santana Moss was asked by Jarrett Bell of USA Today what he’d do if he were the coach, and Moss said he wouldn’t let Griffin play either.

I wouldn’t do it,” Moss said. “No matter what he means to the team, I wouldn’t do it. Being a guy that’s all about players and the player that I’m considering, I’d have to talk to him because I know deep down inside that he wants to play.

“But he’d have to respect my authority for that decision.”

Moss said he understood and respected Griffin’s desire to come back, but as a guy who’s going into his 13th year, he understands that after all the criticism Shanahan took this offseason, the firm hand was understandable.

“As football players, we’ve got to abide by what the coaches want,” Moss said. “As competitive players, we want to do a whole lot. And I know where Robert is. He’s rare. I know it’s hard, because he wants to go out there and get into that rhythm and flow. He wants to be sharp and phenomenal like he’s going to be, anyway.

“He’s special, but Coach has to be hard on him. You don’t want that to be the cause of our season [falling apart] because you took one chance and let him play in the preseason because he wanted to.”

Perhaps more players need to be saying similar things, because for whatever reason, Griffin’s been unwilling thus far to let it go.

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62 Responses to “Santana Moss agrees with Shanahan on RG3”
  1. jwcarlson says: Aug 13, 2013 3:15 PM

    Could you imagine if Shanahan let him play and some third string LB blew up RG3 and his knee?

    They would hang him from the Washington Monument.

  2. unbiasfan says: Aug 13, 2013 3:17 PM

    Can’t wait to watch the Vikings destroy the Redskins this year…#RG3isafluke

  3. h1ndrix says: Aug 13, 2013 3:18 PM

    Both players want nothing more to win, but the perspective Moss displays is the difference between a 2nd year player media darling and a 13 yr veteran who knows this might be his last chance to win the Super Bowl.

  4. youarejealousof6rings says: Aug 13, 2013 3:20 PM

    No one cares about your opinion, Santana.

  5. ravanator says: Aug 13, 2013 3:23 PM

    Why is Santana Moss’ opinion worth writing an article about? I forgot this chump was even still playing in the league. He does have one thing right, Griffin is special, he can rehab, get married, and cheat on his wife all in the same day.

  6. 52lightsxout52 says: Aug 13, 2013 3:24 PM

    Can’t blame him, it’s hard to turn off the urge to compete, but in the long run, it’s best that he remain patient and come back 100% before returning to the field of battle…

  7. whatnojets says: Aug 13, 2013 3:24 PM

    That’s nice! Moss and Shanahan play so well together, like buddy and pal!

  8. gloryfromheaven says: Aug 13, 2013 3:25 PM

    @ravantor

    And that’s why your fan base doesn’t deserve to win another super bowl ever again….

  9. jlmd17 says: Aug 13, 2013 3:26 PM

    Somebody shoot me already. Little bobby Griffen is easily the most overhyped athlete of all time. Strike that Muhammad Ali wears that punch drunk crown, with his impressive losses to Norton and spinks. Ha. Would anyone except for redskin fans draft him above luck at this point?

  10. skeebo80 says: Aug 13, 2013 3:27 PM

    DRAMA QUEEN

  11. painsyndicate says: Aug 13, 2013 3:28 PM

    “Perhaps more players need to be saying similar things, because for whatever reason, Griffin’s been unwilling thus far to let it go.”
    ———
    The media hasn’t helped in this regard either. Keep on banging that RGIII cowbell.

    Overexposed.

  12. peytonsneck18 says: Aug 13, 2013 3:30 PM

    moss is just kissing butt, if skins cut him, nobody else would pick him up………..FAIL. HTTR-horrible team the redskins

  13. jbaxt says: Aug 13, 2013 3:31 PM

    Hey, try finding someone who disagrees.

  14. vibesid says: Aug 13, 2013 3:34 PM

    RGIII is not being smart. He’ll always have injury problems with this attitude and the way he plays.

  15. bux1022 says: Aug 13, 2013 3:34 PM

    Maybe if Shanahan took the same approach during last years playoffs this is a non-issue….just maybe!

  16. skinsfanwill says: Aug 13, 2013 3:38 PM

    Why is ravanator on EVERY Washington post with his garbage. did he forget that Washington beat the Ravens last year? Is he still sour about that? Yeah they won the superbowl, but they don’t run Maryland. That’s Skin’s town buddy.

  17. jamaltimore says: Aug 13, 2013 3:38 PM

    gloryfromheaven says: Aug 13, 2013 3:25 PM

    @ravantor

    And that’s why your fan base doesn’t deserve to win another super bowl ever again….
    ———————————
    the Ravantor is proved to be right and IRG3 is divorced and looking for work as a back-up aka. kyle boller will the Ravens then again be allowed to win a superbowl?

    I guess it stinks playing in the same state as the reigning superbowl champs while the slurs have been struggling for respectability for the past 20 years.

  18. iceburgskin202 says: Aug 13, 2013 3:38 PM

    We all agree with Shanahan ( this time) so he will play when it counts!!! HTTR

  19. baddegg says: Aug 13, 2013 3:38 PM

    OK, now let’s interview the waterboy and see what he thinks, then write another article about it so the trolls can come out to eat…

  20. teek77 says: Aug 13, 2013 3:39 PM

    Looks like RGIII isn’t as mature as people thought he was. To cross his coach in front of the media! Can you imagine what all the Cam Haters would say if he acted the way RGIII did? If he doesn’t understand Shanahan’s position, he’s an idiot! To challenge his Coach in front of the whole NFL public was a bonehead move.

  21. undraftedstar says: Aug 13, 2013 3:41 PM

    Anybody with common knowledge know he’s not playing in the preseason , he know he’s not playing, but some ppl like to play with the media.

  22. cgravyboat says: Aug 13, 2013 3:42 PM

    @gloryfromheaven

    Get used to watching our team win Super Bowls. MDs B team, who can’t even keep their own name, are still decades from relevancy.

  23. throwedoff1 says: Aug 13, 2013 3:44 PM

    Who cares WTF Santana Moss has to say really dude you’re done. PIERRRRRRREEEEE GGGAAARRRSSSOOONNN is a god wideout. Anyway who cares what any deadskin or deadskin fan thinks for that matter go O’DOYLE

  24. nyg201 says: Aug 13, 2013 3:46 PM

    unbiasfan says:Aug 13, 2013 3:17 PM

    Can’t wait to watch the Vikings destroy the Redskins this year…#RG3isafluke

    Yeah, with Ponder behind center right? Good luck with that one. Kirk Cousins would tear up that swiss cheese defense

  25. thirdistheworrd says: Aug 13, 2013 3:50 PM

    vibesid says: Aug 13, 2013 3:34 PM

    RGIII is not being smart. He’ll always have injury problems with this attitude and the way he plays.
    __________________
    Actually playing would not be smart, but paying a quarterback who did not want to be back on the field as soon as possible would be even dumber. Griffin’s is the fiery, competitive attitude every successful NFL player has.

    I agree with Shanahan and Moss that Griffin should not take an in-game snap until September, but I would be vastly more concerned if Griffin was not fighting to get out and play.

  26. ravensterps says: Aug 13, 2013 3:50 PM

    Classy guy, sexting his mistress on the day of his wedding.

  27. channer81 says: Aug 13, 2013 3:55 PM

    Can’t wait to watch the Vikings destroy the Redskins this year…#RG3isafluke

    ——————————————————-

    Your that pissed your stuck with Ponder huh?

  28. dcsween says: Aug 13, 2013 3:58 PM

    Santana Moss is long time peeps with Clinton Portis, who blew out his shoulder in a preseason game … trying to make a tackle to stop a pick six … because Portis is really really a competitor … like Griffin.

    Moss is the smart one here. Preseason is an unnecessary risk for a team’s franchise player, and it doesn’t matter who that franchise player is.

    I don’t know what Griffin is doing with all this. Its not helping maintain his “brand”, esp. if he DOES get preseason snaps. The myth/man/legend that is Griffin is as a competitor, not as an injured player.

  29. scrp2 says: Aug 13, 2013 3:58 PM

    Hopefully Coach sits him out Game 1 of the regular season. Better safe than sorry.

  30. garrisjs says: Aug 13, 2013 3:59 PM

    Can’t wait to watch the Vikings destroy the Redskins this year…

    Ummm, do you recall the top NFL highlight of 2012? you know, the one where RG3 sprints 76 yards past every Vikings defender to seal the game?

  31. garrisjs says: Aug 13, 2013 4:04 PM

    This is the perfect way for both sides to handle the situation. What does the media want here? (besides the chance to conjure up a “player/coach rift” story where one does NOT exist)

    As a Redskins fan, I want my QB to have that hunger to get back on the field. RG3 certainly has that covered.
    I want my Coach to be in charge and listen to the advice of the team Dr. Shannahan is doing that right now.

    The Dr. said RG3 is not cleared to play in the preseason. RG3 is a soldier and a leader who not only wants to play in the preseason, but is willing to play hurt in the preseason! He earns the respect of his teammates without having to risk injury.

    Shannahan is doing the right thing, showing that he is in charge and is making his decision based on expert doctor advice. He earns (back) the trust of his players by showing that he is not willing to risk injury to any player, no matter how important they are to the teams success.

    Both sides are playing this to perfection and that’s a great sign for our season!

  32. gfyalbert33 says: Aug 13, 2013 4:08 PM

    Griffin won’t let it go or the media won’t?

  33. peytonsneck18 says: Aug 13, 2013 4:12 PM

    IRG3-yearsandoutoftheleague, hey IRG3, keep it real bro, my bad, rg3 doesnt hang around black folks

  34. sandblastermoron says: Aug 13, 2013 4:15 PM

    who’s goona be the first troll to bring up the “fake” stock that Green bay fans purchase??

    Oh, i guess it was me!!!! “badda bing!!”

    With the 5th pick the Green Bay Packers select A.J Hawk!!! hahahahahahahahaha, can’t stop laughing at this one!!! You sure know how to pick em Ted!!!! “Badda Bing”

  35. tommyturbo1969 says: Aug 13, 2013 4:19 PM

    he will never complete a full season as a qb and cousins is already better in that system

  36. jason1980 says: Aug 13, 2013 4:23 PM

    Robert Griffin……wow, what a primadonna! Good lord, what would we hear if he lead a winning franchise. OK, why don’t we all agree, once the Redskins have proven themselves to be a powerhouse team, then we can goo-goo non-stop about how wonderful Robert is going to be, let’s allow him to prove his worth first.

  37. ravanator says: Aug 13, 2013 4:25 PM

    Big question on my mind is who will be out of the league, broke, and in the police log first, Griffin or Moss? My money is on IRG3!

  38. orakpownd says: Aug 13, 2013 4:30 PM

    you know whats funny about these Baltimore comments about Moss. He is 34 and he tied your best receivers TD total last year with 8….LOL. Stats kids…do you read them?? NFL hacks with no knowledge because Football is new for them.

  39. pongonfl says: Aug 13, 2013 4:30 PM

    RGIIIs hard count sounds funny,
    that is all

  40. vstar1us says: Aug 13, 2013 4:33 PM

    ESPN= extra stupid punk nuts

    Of course RG wants to play, he is out of the lime light right now, he like many players need the fix of being on TV. The media has destroyed the country! Asking stupid questions, rerunning stupid clips and interviewing stupid people and expecting something remarkable.

  41. jahbird says: Aug 13, 2013 4:33 PM

    Every troll post here is from a Raven’s fan.

    Ya’ll are straight pathetic. I don’t have space in my brain to rent out for the Baltimorons anymore.

    I finally understand that when Poe wrote, “Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before,” that he was talking about the Ravens heading back to Cleveland.

  42. commonsensedude says: Aug 13, 2013 4:39 PM

    Don’t mind the cranky Ravens fans who post trash talk on Skins article pages. I think they’ve been having a hard time coping since The Wire got cancelled. They have a bit of an inferiority complex from living between DC and Philly.

  43. cgravyboat says: Aug 13, 2013 4:55 PM

    “you know whats funny about these Baltimore comments about Moss. He is 34 and he tied your best receivers TD total last year with 8….LOL. Stats kids…do you read them?? NFL hacks with no knowledge because Football is new for them.”

    Here’s a stat: The Ravens won the super bowl. Here’s another stat: Ngata: 1, RGIII: 0 (or -1 depending on how you look at it…)

  44. hater79 says: Aug 13, 2013 4:56 PM

    Look at this from a reporters perspective….write a meaningless story about the third string back up cb battle or twist every utterance of every player about RG3 to fuel his haters and get 2000000 blog hits.

  45. swaggyy says: Aug 13, 2013 5:01 PM

    Who the heck is RG3 going to throw to this year? Santana Moss is terrible. Dude retire already bruh

  46. boyshole25 says: Aug 13, 2013 5:04 PM

    Hahaha wow the haters let me know the skins are well on their way! Thanks sweethearts

  47. sbvb10 says: Aug 13, 2013 5:04 PM

    RG DIVA

  48. thermanmerman99 says: Aug 13, 2013 5:11 PM

    when will BOB ever throw more than 10-15 passes a game? easy to rack up a high completion percentage like these skins fans brag about, when you only throw 10-15 times a game, with 90% of those passes being 5 yard screen plays

  49. boyshole25 says: Aug 13, 2013 5:13 PM

    Read your owN teams news you IGnorant Good for nothing hatERS

  50. trollingforjustice says: Aug 13, 2013 5:15 PM

    there’s alot of ravens fans on here hatin against the redskins…could it be because the Redskins beat them last year without even using RGIII?….

  51. harrypairotestes says: Aug 13, 2013 5:23 PM

    garrisjs says:
    Aug 13, 2013 4:04 PM

    This is the perfect way for both sides to handle the situation. What does the media want here? (besides the chance to conjure up a “player/coach rift” story where one does NOT exist)……….

    ——————————————-

    You hit every note in there. Very nice and spot on comment. But I have to disagree with one thing. While Griffin may very well be a soldier, a LEADER, he’s not (at least, not yet). For one to be a leader, and not even a good one at that, one has to be able to realize and understand what is best for his team. And right now, him forcing himself into a playoff game with his passive/aggressive comments to the media regarding his status to play and the coach’s decision not to let him play makes him a “not-so-very-good” candidate to be a leader of that team.

    At the moment, Cousins at center IS the best situation for the team. I understand your misunderstanding of his so-called dedication and drive to play but this is really all for him and not for the best of the team. Have you heard him lately? “I want to play…..,” “I want to do this,” “I want to do that.” “If it was up to ME, I would.”

    Tell me any person out there that is looking out for the best interest of the team, as a whole, and not his own, that would talk the way he does. Part of the reason why he got injured is he played hurt because he did not want Cousins out there in the playoffs.

    He may very well be a passionate athlete who would want to play every down even if he’s hurt, but a LEADER, NO, he’s not!!!

  52. harrypairotestes says: Aug 13, 2013 5:24 PM

    I meant pre-season instead of playoff.

  53. dstep24 says: Aug 13, 2013 5:31 PM

    I love how suddenly after one season of some read-option luck, and a butt-load of stupid decisions to either run the ball or stay in the game, Griffin suddenly thinks anyone gives rip what he has to say.

    Like he has a platform.

    This all coming from a guy who wears a single arm band, screams at refs when defenders fly in to crush him on the sideline (WHILE STILL IN BOUNDS), questions Mike Shanahan, takes a picture of himself jumping over a pylon in an empty stadium with a ball in his hand and in full uniform and uses it as his twitter pic, thinks he has the clout to tell Tony Romo that winning doesn’t matter, was under the delusion against Seattle that if he stayed in the game long enough to blow out both knees, people wouldn’t pay attention to how absolutely terrible he is when forced to stay in the pocket, and that Seattle had him figured out by the end of the 2nd quarter….

    He needs to get over himself and focus on the fact that in year 2, he’s going to have to run a real NFL offense, and might want to start thinking about learning to move through progressions. One-read pass plays aren’t going to work for 2 years straight.

  54. thirdistheworrd says: Aug 13, 2013 5:38 PM

    dcsween says: Aug 13, 2013 3:58 PM

    Santana Moss is long time peeps with Clinton Portis, who blew out his shoulder in a preseason game … trying to make a tackle to stop a pick six … because Portis is really really a competitor … like Griffin.

    Moss is the smart one here. Preseason is an unnecessary risk for a team’s franchise player, and it doesn’t matter who that franchise player is.

    I don’t know what Griffin is doing with all this. Its not helping maintain his “brand”, esp. if he DOES get preseason snaps. The myth/man/legend that is Griffin is as a competitor, not as an injured player.
    __________________
    I could not agree more with your thoughts on the preseason. However “what Griffin is doing” is, as you said, being a competitor. It doesn’t matter how talented a player is, if they don’t have this kind of drive and passion for the game, they’re not a player you want on your team.

    The real question is what “all this” is. “All this” is a short series of events:
    1. Griffin responding to a couple of questions from reoprters by expressing a desire to play in the preseason and how he can’t wait to go back to football
    2. Shanahan’s response to Griffin’s remarks: “No.”
    3. The media’s need to generate 150 stories from these three lines
    4. a reporter asking Santana Moss about the media-concocted “controversy”– 151 stories.

    In short, this has nothing to do with brands, or images, or anything besides Griff being a football player, and journalists’ need to pick apart every little detail to create stories in the offseason.

  55. dutchkindelberger says: Aug 13, 2013 5:38 PM

    Hey cgravyboat, here’s a few more stats for you:

    Redskins: 5 NFL Championships
    Ravens: 2 NFL Championships

    Redskins: 11 NFL Championship appearances.
    Ravens: 2 NFL Championship appearances.

    Forbes estimated value of the Washington Redskins: 1.55 billion dollars.
    Forbes estimated value of the Baltimore Ravens: 1.07 billion dollars.

    Apparently more people would rather be the owner of the Redskins….

    Oh, one more: Average length of time an NFL team stays in Baltimore: 16.7 years.

    Washington Redskins; 81 years of history and counting…

  56. delshofner says: Aug 13, 2013 5:40 PM

    Wait, RGIII is “passive-aggressive”?

    Are we sure he hasn’t talked to McNabb?

  57. thirdistheworrd says: Aug 13, 2013 5:53 PM

    cgravyboat says: Aug 13, 2013 4:55 PM

    “you know whats funny about these Baltimore comments about Moss. He is 34 and he tied your best receivers TD total last year with 8….LOL. Stats kids…do you read them?? NFL hacks with no knowledge because Football is new for them.”

    Here’s a stat: The Ravens won the super bowl. Here’s another stat: Ngata: 1, RGIII: 0 (or -1 depending on how you look at it…)
    __________________
    Here’s a stat:
    Ravens SB wins in last fifteen years: 2
    Redskins playoff wins in last fifteen years: 2

    Your team is better, you just won a Lombardi, why the inferiority complex? Redskins fans respect the Ravens team and organization; Ravens fans resent the Redskins’ existence.

    It’s AFC and NFC; go-go music and the Wire; Bertha’s Mussels and bloated, wasteful bureaucracy: it’s apples and oranges and there is no rivalry– why stir up this anger and resentment for no reason? You go win your conference, and we’ll go win ours. But until then there’s no reason for our fanbases to be at each other’s throats.

  58. thirdistheworrd says: Aug 13, 2013 6:05 PM

    thermanmerman99 says: Aug 13, 2013 5:11 PM

    when will BOB ever throw more than 10-15 passes a game? easy to rack up a high completion percentage like these skins fans brag about, when you only throw 10-15 times a game, with 90% of those passes being 5 yard screen plays
    ____________
    Excellent point. Certainly explains why he was #1 in the league in yards/completion.
    That said, Shanahan has always, and will always, run a run-first offense. Still, Griffin was 19th in the league in attempts/game (26.2), ahead of Russell Wilson (24.4) and Colin Kaepernick (16.8).

  59. jessepinkman1199 says: Aug 13, 2013 6:09 PM

    ravanator says:
    Aug 13, 2013 3:23 PM
    Why is Santana Moss’ opinion worth writing an article about? I forgot this chump was even still playing in the league. He does have one thing right, Griffin is special, he can rehab, get married, and cheat on his wife all in the same day.

    ***

    Careful, Ravantor. What you did right there is called libel. It’s illegal. Your defamatory post has been duly noted.

    Tread lightly.

  60. leevi98 says: Aug 13, 2013 7:33 PM

    “”unbiasfan says: Aug 13, 2013 3:17 PM””

    “Can’t wait to watch the Vikings destroy the Redskins this year…#RG3isafluke”

    LOL Good luck with that…I recall Rg3 pretty much tearing the Vikes up and a 60 something designed QB draw that pretty much has become the famous RG3 rookie moment that will live on forever “Rg3 has the 1st down and more…R3 down the sidelines..RG3 Electrifying” like Ponder can keep up…

  61. youcantmakemepickausername says: Aug 13, 2013 10:39 PM

    commonsensedude says: Aug 13, 2013 4:39 PM

    Don’t mind the cranky Ravens fans who post trash talk on Skins article pages. I think they’ve been having a hard time coping since The Wire got cancelled. They have a bit of an inferiority complex from living between DC and Philly.
    ———————————————————-

    Not really relevant to a football post, but I don’t think The Wire got cancelled, I think David Simon just decided five seasons was enough and ended it on his own.

    Ok, you’re now free to go back to your regularly scheduled peeing contests.

  62. skinsfansince71 says: Aug 15, 2013 10:15 AM

    ravensterps says: Aug 13, 2013 3:50 PM

    Classy guy, sexting his mistress on the day of his wedding

    Stop complaining,your girlfriend loved TALKING to him.

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