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Tom Brady a full participant in practice, with no problems

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What a difference 24 hours makes.

At this time yesterday, people were freaking out about the knee injury suffered by Patriots quarterback Tom Brady in a joint practice with the Buccaneers. Today, Brady has completed a practice with absolutely no problems.

Brady was moving without a limp and taking part fully in practice, Tom Curran reported on Pro Football Talk on NBCSN. Brady didn’t speak to reporters afterward, but teammates said Brady was fine and leading the team as usual.

He felt great back there, making all the throws, not hobbling around,” guard Logan Mankins told Mike Reiss of ESPN. “That’s always a good sign.”

Brady is expected to play in Friday night’s preseason game against the Buccaneers.

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83 Responses to “Tom Brady a full participant in practice, with no problems”
  1. Steeley McBeam says: Aug 15, 2013 5:42 PM

    He was just practicing his ‘diving and acting injured to draw a flag’ play. Wasn’t in mid-season form yet.

  2. arrowrock1976 says: Aug 15, 2013 5:44 PM

    Well there we go, it was just a bump. Probably a surface bruise and that’s it at most. Back to the task of building the this years’ champions without a hiccup.

    Go Pats!

  3. 12444uggg says: Aug 15, 2013 5:54 PM

    I had no concern that he had sustained a serious injury. He didn’t. Now the Pats can get a 3 or 4 seed and bounced in the second round again.

  4. captainwisdom8888 says: Aug 15, 2013 5:55 PM

    This isn’t exactly related to Brady’s injury, but I think if you were to ask 100 Patriots fans to name 1 quarterback(or even 1 player outside of Drew Bledsoe) that played before the Tom Brady era…you would be VERY surprised at just how few fans could actually do it. I bet closer to 60-70% of their fan base has only been a REAL fan since Brady came along. For those of you New Englanders who disagree with this…just try me. Ask your fellow fans to name 1 player who is not Drew Bledsoe and you will see exactly what I mean.

  5. forsbergler says: Aug 15, 2013 5:58 PM

    0 – 2 in Super Bowls since Spygate. 0 – 3 in first 3 playoff games after Spy Gate. 2 of those 3 losses were with #1 seed. Ol Tom Brady sure doesn’t seem as clutch as he did when the defensive calls were coming into his helmet pre snap. Is anyone else think that when this team losses its 3rd SB after Spygate that everyone will finnaly call this the most over rated team in NFL history? or the biggest chokers of all time going 18-1? Karma maybe?. What do you guys think?

  6. strokeytheclown says: Aug 15, 2013 5:58 PM

    Now how many stories are gonna be written about Hairdo’s knee?

  7. raydahhs75 says: Aug 15, 2013 5:59 PM

    As a lifelong Raiders fan, I will say this – I was relieved to hear he’s ok. Football needs guys like Brady, it’s what makes our game so great. The game suffers when guys like him are sidelined.

  8. eclipsingbinary says: Aug 15, 2013 6:02 PM

    It’s nice Brady’s old and will be out of the league in a few. Sheesh.

  9. blackngold4life says: Aug 15, 2013 6:03 PM

    And they say Big Ben’s a Drama Queen…

  10. citiciti says: Aug 15, 2013 6:06 PM

    12 /4—13/3

  11. mightysimi says: Aug 15, 2013 6:11 PM

    forsbergler, totally agree. It’s easy to play when you know the D.

  12. fissels says: Aug 15, 2013 6:17 PM

    Wow the media really freaked out over nothing! That’s a new one!

  13. mikel1981 says: Aug 15, 2013 6:17 PM

    hey captain “wisdom” Brady and Bledsoe are the only qb’s the Pats have had in the last 20 years. Nobody under the age of 30 would even remember football before that.

  14. gvizcarra209gviz121 says: Aug 15, 2013 6:18 PM

    In response to —CAPTAINWISDOM8888— a lot of patriots fans cant name the quarterback before Bledsoe because he and tom brady have been the only two starting Quarterbacks for the Patriots since 93′…… ! lol. not knowing that doesn’t mean anything. #GoPats

  15. forsbergler says: Aug 15, 2013 6:18 PM

    @ citiciti – I totaly agree, then 1 and done in the playoffs as per ushhh.

  16. gdeli says: Aug 15, 2013 6:19 PM

    amazing what luck and ice can do huh? good deal, now we can watch him and his gang play.

  17. mattwalshvideo says: Aug 15, 2013 6:21 PM

    I’d say Brady is a much better actor than the owner of his football team, looking forward to Bob’s next cameo.

  18. tedmurph says: Aug 15, 2013 6:24 PM

    Hey captain, they went to the Super Bowl in ’85 and ’96. It is hard for fans to keep track with all the championships in the 4 major sports, but you don’t know what you’re talking about.

    Yeah forsbergler, got to all those SBs and Championship games. Bet you payed close attention, since your team was out of it by Thanksgiving.

  19. mikel1981 says: Aug 15, 2013 6:26 PM

    forsbergler- I think your confusing legends. The king of the 1 n dones plays in mile high. #18 is his name. This legend played in 7 afc title games. and has only went 1 n done twice.

  20. leftyman says: Aug 15, 2013 6:28 PM

    This post and all future posts concerning Tom Brady should be accompanied with an obligatory pre-bred bikini pic of Gisele.

  21. moerawn says: Aug 15, 2013 6:30 PM

    Wow he’s got a Leroy Jethro Gibbs haircut.

  22. bradygoat says: Aug 15, 2013 6:32 PM

    With this “injury” – Brady and the Pats said nothing, did nothing, never complained about the Bucs, and are carrying on life as normal. The media know Brady generates interest in stories – because he’s so loved and also hated by many outside of New England…for whatever reason. I don’t get the “diva’ perception – every QB in the NFL calls for flags. Past research has shown that Brady and Manning are hardly ever flagged for roughing the passer penalties because they get rid of the ball so quickly.

    Don’t get the hate.

  23. pastabelly101 says: Aug 15, 2013 6:33 PM

    Tom Brady- best winning percentage of any QB in the history of the nfl by far. Tom Brady the greatest of all time!

  24. bradygoat says: Aug 15, 2013 6:36 PM

    Scott Zolak, Marc Wilson, Tommy Hodson, Steve Grogan, Hugh Millen, Tony Eason….these are all the crappy QB’s we got to watch before Brady (Grogan I guess and exception). Ya think there might be a reason people flock to Brady??? Or should fans just not go to games because one of the greatest to ever play the game is on the field and the team used to be terrible.

    EVERY TEAM HAS BANDWAGON FANS!!!!!

  25. ampats says: Aug 15, 2013 6:38 PM

    Bad news for Dolphins, Jets, Bills, Broncos and other AFC fans and our general haters.

    Patriots always a perennial Super Bowl contender.

    Haven’t won the big one blah blah blah from fans of teams that occasionally get a sniff of the playoffs.

    @capitonwisdom, Pats fan since 1974 and I take you TB & Bledsoe and raise you Steve Grogan. I’m forgetting Tony Eason considering we could have drafted Dan Marino. If you read many comments on PFT, there are a lot of bandwagon fans

  26. CKL says: Aug 15, 2013 6:41 PM

    Honestly, very few of my fellow Pats fans were that freaked out once we read that he returned to the field after it and finished the series then went to the training room only after he huddled with BB and JMD and the trainers.

    @ blackngold,
    If TB were to speak ad nauseum to the media about his real or exaggerated owies (that his HC has to deny), you’d have a good comparison. But he doesn’t . You can’t blame a player for being a drama queen due to vast media coverage of his life unless he participates in it.

    It’s heartening to see the usual contigent of mental midgets are here though. Bad teams and players seldom have such a coterie. :D

  27. billhicks666 says: Aug 15, 2013 6:58 PM

    That’s a shame.

  28. ronaldmexico7 says: Aug 15, 2013 7:01 PM

    Time to lock the door and grab the lotion and tissues.

  29. marima07 says: Aug 15, 2013 7:02 PM

    Don’t forget Doug Flutie!

  30. thetooloftools says: Aug 15, 2013 7:09 PM

    Thank Heavens he is ok. You can hate the Pats for their success, and yada yada… but this guy is fun to watch. This is that dog that doesn’t sit. I hope he goes into coaching (if he can climb off his wife) when he is done with the game. Part of me wants to hate him, but the bigger part says… wow… to walk a day in that guys shoes. Nobody ever GAVE him anything. He took what was his.
    My kinda guy.
    He knows when to be a ladies man, and when to rip your F’IN heart out and show it to you and make you like it.
    I hope his nick name is BAM BAM.
    Like after Barney Ruble’s kid in the Flintstones who just blew everything up with a smile on his face and we liked watching it.

  31. bighurt228 says: Aug 15, 2013 7:15 PM

    All the haters can hate. We will enjoy and admire another Super Bowl run led by one of the greatest and toughest quarterbacks to ever take the field.!!

  32. bighurt228 says: Aug 15, 2013 7:20 PM

    Don’t forget Babe Parilli.!! Seems like the captain was wrong!! Guess he’s just another butt hurt fan still smarting from the last time Brady tore his team a new one…lol

  33. forsbergler says: Aug 15, 2013 7:27 PM

    Whoa whoa whoa, don’t get so mad guys I was just pointing out that the only in Brady has done well since Spygate was choke. Settle down guys it’s called a discussion board for a reason. Nobody said you couldn’t go around saying that Brady is the best QB of all time. The problem is you pats fans want to deny that all you have done well since being exposed for cheating is lay the biggest choke job in history against the Giants in 08. This is not opinion. It is fact. Success isn’t determined by anything else but SB right? Like the 3 SB you won in 4 years with Brady getting the defensive play calls in his ear and probably who he should throw to as well. This is not opinion it is fact. It’s called Spygate, you should read about it. Thanks to patriot fans we all now know success is measured in championships and not stats. How many championships you got since 08? Zero – fact. 0 – 2 actually. I am fully enjoying watching your wonder boy Brady crumble under the pressure of fair competition.

  34. lostsok says: Aug 15, 2013 7:31 PM

    The end is neigh.

  35. u4iadman says: Aug 15, 2013 7:37 PM

    Tuck Rule will save him.

  36. dwhcic says: Aug 15, 2013 7:39 PM

    forsbergle:

    How many superbowls has your team been to since 07? It takes consistency, a good team, and some luck to win the big game. Just getting there is a big accomplishment in my eyes.

  37. nflpoker says: Aug 15, 2013 7:40 PM

    So he practiced with bruise on his knee. Big deal. I’ll bet the media will still be talking about his “injury” for next couple of weeks. I wonder when the movie comes out.

  38. rushmatic says: Aug 15, 2013 7:42 PM

    Steeley McBeam says:
    He was just practicing his ‘diving and acting injured to draw a flag’ play. Wasn’t in mid-season form yet.

    ____________

    While Pig Ben Rapelisberger was rapily shoving helpless women into bathroom stalls, right? These jokes sure don’t get old!

  39. mikel1981 says: Aug 15, 2013 7:46 PM

    The only FACTS are the banners are still in the rafters and the rings are still on the fingers. Tom Brady is the only member of 03 team left on the Pats roster. That means they rebuilt almost the ENTIRE team and remained contenders. Unprecedented. The spygate cop out is pretty weak. It had no effect on the game. When the opponents coach called in the play we couldnt stop the game and go review the tape. You have been whining about nothing for 6 years. Go ahead and whine another 6. The banners will still be in the rafters and the rings will still be on the fingers.

  40. forsbergler says: Aug 15, 2013 7:48 PM

    Oh ya Brady wears a wrist band and he’s been in the league since 00. LoL
    wristbands = your being told what to do
    Being told what do = your coach doesn’t trust you to run the offence
    Your coach doesn’t trust you to run the offence = because your not that good

    You know why Brees, Rogers, both Mannings, don’t wear wrist bands? Because there good enough to run the offence by themselves. Your QB is a robot that is told what play to call and who to throw too. If his guy isn’t open in the 1 sec of the route he looks for the second safest throw or panics about the pass rush and throws it 50 yds down the centre of the field while in the end zone for a safety costing his team the Super Bowl on his 1st play from scrimmage. LoL. Sound familiar? Man those 2 points could of been useful at the end of that game huh? Your guy won 3 Super Bowl by an avg of 3 points against 2 chump teams and 1 good one. And that was with knowing all the defensive play calls. Sorry to break it to you. Your team wasn’t even good when it was cheating.

  41. rushmatic says: Aug 15, 2013 7:50 PM

    @forsbergler – You should probably switch to golf or shuffleboard. I don’t think you understand how football works.

    1. Matt Walsh never filmed any practices of the Rams Super Bowl practice. Period. The newspaper misrepresented what Walsh said and retracted the story. Matt Walsh himself confirms it never happened.

    2. The Patriots broke a 2006 rule clarifying that signal filming can take place in the stands (as it continues today), but not from the sidelines. The memo stated that it could not take place from the sidelines “for game day purposes” – and Belichick took that to mean he could still film for post-game reference. Say what you will about his lawyering skills, but for this, he paid a 1st-round draft pick. And he wasn’t the only team doing it, either.

    3. AFTER Spygate the Patriots went 16-0 in the regular season – something no other team has done.

    Going undefeated is NOT proof that the team “can’t win without cheating” that some apparently think it is.

    Since “Spygate” no team in the NFL has a better record than the Patriots. Again, having the best record in the NFL is not “proof” they “can’t win without cheating.”

    Think before posting. Or go read. Where you get that Brady had the exact plays teams were running in his ear, I have no idea. I do understand you hate the fact that the Patriots have been the best team in the NFL for over a decade – but you can’t change the facts.

  42. forsbergler says: Aug 15, 2013 7:57 PM

    2nd place is 1st loser. Pats fans have been talking about how championships are everything. The worst possible thing to do is go to the Super Bowl and lose. So don’t start talking about getting to the Super Bowl 5 years ago getting to the Super Bowl meant nothing to you guys. Are you guys actually satisfied with getting to the Super Bowl? Maybe you guys arnt as delusional as I thought. So if Brady goes to 3 more Super Bowls and loses them all and he passes Elway for most Super Bowl appearances but finishes with a record of 3 – 5. You guys will be satisfied with that? No you won’t. He’s already known for the biggest choke in nfl history. He finishes his career with no more SB victories after Spygate he doesn’t even deserve to be a hall of famer in my eyes. You cheat in the Olympics guess what they do. They take away your accomplishments. How the pats got away with keeping their rings is beyond me.

  43. flash1283 says: Aug 15, 2013 7:58 PM

    forsbergler says: Aug 15, 2013 7:27 PM

    Whoa whoa whoa, don’t get so mad guys I was just pointing out that the only in Brady has done well since Spygate was choke. Settle down guys it’s called a discussion board for a reason. Nobody said you couldn’t go around saying that Brady is the best QB of all time. The problem is you pats fans want to deny that all you have done well since being exposed for cheating is lay the biggest choke job in history against the Giants in 08. This is not opinion. It is fact. Success isn’t determined by anything else but SB right? Like the 3 SB you won in 4 years with Brady getting the defensive play calls in his ear and probably who he should throw to as well. This is not opinion it is fact. It’s called Spygate, you should read about it. Thanks to patriot fans we all now know success is measured in championships and not stats. How many championships you got since 08? Zero – fact. 0 – 2 actually. I am fully enjoying watching your wonder boy Brady crumble under the pressure of fair competition.
    —–

    always such a stupid argument.

    First you lose all credibility by “karma”

    You do know it is STILL legal to film today?
    Not sure were the haters got the “he was getting the defensive signals in his helmet” that’s just ridicules.

  44. forsbergler says: Aug 15, 2013 8:11 PM

    @ Rushmatic……Oh the whole pats didn’t do anything wrong argument. I suggest you read Spygate the untold story you might be enlighten by how elabrorate their little spying scheme actually was. Gives this NSa scandals a good run for its money actually. So don’t come on here claiming your team didn’t cheat. They knowinly did, all evidence was destroyed so the public and other teams would never find out the exact extent of how badly they were actually cheating. Eric Mangini finally got fed up with it cause he new exactly what was going on because he was part of it on the staff. Why do you think bill was so pissed of when he went to the jets. Normally your happy for your pupils to get head coaching jobs….hmmmmm. Your augments are wrong…sorry. And again don’t come to me and tell me your team has been successful since you got caught cheating because you haven’t. The only thing that matters is championships right? Isn’t this your argument for why Brady is the best all time?…..until you win another championship come talk to me….and with the players you now have….have fun with that

  45. metitometin says: Aug 15, 2013 8:28 PM

    Losers posting about Spygate really need to get a clue. Videotaping was LEGAL. EVERY team was doing it. Roger Goodell sent that memo about videotaping to EVERY team in the NFL. If the Pats were the only team videotaping, then why did Goodell send that memo to EVERY team in the NFL?? Because EVERY team was videotaping.

    I think the Patriot record speaks for itself since that bogus Spygate scandal. 2 Superbowl appearances, playoff appearances every year since then, 17-0 that year AFTER the bogus Spygate scandal.

    I just think people are jealous of Tom Brady and jealous of all the success the Patriots have had while thinking how bad their own teams have been. Always trying to knock off # 1.

  46. footballfan58 says: Aug 15, 2013 8:30 PM

    Hey Captain Wisdom – Tony Franklin, Mosi Tatupu, Irving Fryer, shall I go on? You probably have no idea who they are, huh? Look it up.

  47. forsbergler says: Aug 15, 2013 8:31 PM

    It’s very easy how to know the exact play actually its called having someone tape signals by video camera, microphone, then analyze the data and determine that after giving certain symbols, the D ran a cover 6, a 2 man under, a zone blitz, all out blitz, so on and so forth. Don’t feel to bad though because bill Walsh did this as well in the 80s. It’s very simple actually. I know my our going to zone blitz me. So I tell my QB hey…call this wr screen should be wide open…all you have to do is homework and your offence can’t be stopped. Or how about jamming communication signals to the opponents QB helmet in your own building? Ever notice at the helmet problems in key situations when playing against the pats?…..hmmmmm……unlucky bugs in the gear I guess huh?……the pats are a disgrace to the fair competition of the league through those years and there rings should be confiscated.

  48. metitometin says: Aug 15, 2013 8:32 PM

    Too bad the Pats had to take the hit for every team that was videotaping, every team that was cheating, because EVERY team did it and EVERY team does it. Anyone who doesn’t think their team is cheating really needs to get a clue.

    Not every team had a rat like Eric Mangini to rat out the Pats though because if every team had an Eric Mangini, EVERY team would have been fined for videotaping because EVERY team was doing it.

    Teams cheat, Saints commit bounties, 49ers commit salary cap violations every year, Bengals have the whole team arrested, Broncos players taking steroids, Jets tripping players, Colts and Seahawks pumping in phony crowd noise. The list goes on and on and on.

  49. forsbergler says: Aug 15, 2013 8:33 PM

    Oh it was legal huh? Why was it that only the pats lost a 1st round pick and was fined 750 000 dollars the most in nfl history btw? Ya keep tellin yourself that buddy.

  50. ampats says: Aug 15, 2013 8:36 PM

    forsbergler,

    really you are suggesting reading a book by a disgruntled fan who it has been proven had no inside information but his own vented view you accept as fact? Your fantasy of spygate is laughable. Keep hating because the Patriots keep winning !!

    Please enlighten us all as to the outstanding franchise you root for since you seem to respond to posts. If you don’t, all people on this site know who you are !

  51. forsbergler says: Aug 15, 2013 8:37 PM

    And once again your record doesn’t speak for itself. You 0-2 since being caught and were 0-3 in your first 3 playoff games after you got caught. Success is determined by championships right? Your record proves that your really good at getting really bad draft pics…hense why you need to draft gangster murders that no other teams want because the have morals.

  52. forsbergler says: Aug 15, 2013 8:39 PM

    Will you be happy if Tom goes to 3 more SB and losses All 3?I have a feeling you wouldn’t be so give up the successful since Spygate argument.

  53. forsbergler says: Aug 15, 2013 8:44 PM

    Unfortunately you have no arguments and you can’t try and end the argument with well who won the SB. Your team has been the Atlanta falcons of the AFC. Biggest choke job ever. Like when you got all pumped last year after coming back from a 28 point deficit to lose to the 9ers on a 10 yard hook route…classic NE choke job. Was probably my favourite moment of last year actually. Other than watching Baltimore stomp you again in the playoffs.

  54. forsbergler says: Aug 15, 2013 8:46 PM

    Another 17 points playoff performance by your boy Tom bradt…..lol….I love how he throws up 17 points in the playoffs after having the apparently the best offence in the league….Tom Brady = most over paid game manager of all time.

  55. flash1283 says: Aug 15, 2013 8:58 PM

    forsbergler says:
    Aug 15, 2013 8:33 PM
    Oh it was legal huh? Why was it that only the pats lost a 1st round pick and was fined 750 000 dollars the most in nfl history btw? Ya keep tellin yourself that buddy.

    0—-

    Was LEGAL and still is LEGAL today.

    The patriots were find for ignoring the memo to not do it from the sidelines that’s it.

    You can still do it today as long as you are doing it from the designated areas.

    Look it up.

  56. ampats says: Aug 15, 2013 9:05 PM

    forsbergler,

    speaking about CHOKE artists how did your QB (from your favorite team since you were 8 living in Canada) do in the game they were heavily favored against the Ravens ???

  57. pastabelly101 says: Aug 15, 2013 9:08 PM

    @forsblabberer- Uh, change your signals-not that hard, also why do coaches hold up the card to hide their face in every NFL game?Maybe other teams are trying to steal someting?

  58. forsbergler says: Aug 15, 2013 9:26 PM

    Oh my bad I didn’t know it legal to tape signals or mic you players to steal blocking assignment adjustments. How about jamming communications of your opponent? Is this legal too? This is a rediculas argument. Nothing your team did was legal hense why they got their pee pee slapped. There’s no argument to this. It’s already been proven. Documented, it even has a nick name for Pete sakes. You this this was all made up because pats were just the unlucky ones to get caught? Then why did pupils under bill bilk chick get in trouble after Spygate for trying to do the same thing? You know your offensive coordinator McDoink got fined in Denver trying to do the same thing right? Must have been just a coincidence right? Your and idiot to deny that your team wasn’t cheating. SMH

  59. flash1283 says: Aug 15, 2013 9:26 PM

    forsbergler says:
    Aug 15, 2013 8:33 PM
    Oh it was legal huh? Why was it that only the pats lost a 1st round pick and was fined 750 000 dollars the most in nfl history btw? Ya keep tellin yourself that buddy.

    —-

    In December, 2001, the Broncos were fined $968,000 and lost their ‘02 third round draft pick for delayed payments made between 1996 and 1998 in sum of $29 million made to John Elway and Terrell Davis.

    So no it wasn’t the “most in NFL history” buddy!

  60. forsbergler says: Aug 15, 2013 9:27 PM

    Ya I have looked it up. It’s illegal to this day to tape any type of signal.

  61. forsbergler says: Aug 15, 2013 9:31 PM

    What part of tapering any signals is prohibited dont you understand?

    Please read

    NFL’s no-video rule
    The “Game Operations Manual” states that “no video recording devices of any kind are permitted to be in use in the coaches’ booth, on the field, or in the locker room during the game.” The manual states that “all video shooting locations must be enclosed on all sides with a roof overhead.” NFL security officials confiscated a camera and videotape from a New England video assistant on the Patriots’ sideline when it was suspected he was recording the Jets’ defensive signals. Taping any signals is prohibited.

  62. pastabelly says: Aug 15, 2013 9:32 PM

    Tony Eason had a couple decent years in Foxboro. Here’s more for the list Plunket, Cavanaugh, Kaap, Taliferro, Zolak, Millen, Secules, Cassel.

  63. boonevol says: Aug 15, 2013 9:48 PM

    Not a Pats fan but I can name Juius Adams, Jim Plunkett, Randy Vataha, and John Hannah. Mike Haynes too, pre-Raiders.

  64. bigwii says: Aug 15, 2013 9:51 PM

    Forsbergler why don’t you do done research on spygate. Because, if you did you would know it wasn’t close to what you think. Every team films games from the top the Pats did it closer.

    What you don’t get is that every team has access to the same field with this thing called zoom, it’s on every camera. They didn’t get anymore information than other teams.

    So why don’t you find another excuse to hate. Just don’t use an old excuse and blowing it up into something that its not.

    They lost the first Super Bowl because of a lucky catch and the second one because their defense was terrible. The fact that they got there shows how great Brady is.

    Just give up there’s nothing haters can say that can carry any meaning anymore you just get proven wrong every time give up.

  65. fanasaurus says: Aug 15, 2013 10:16 PM

    forsbergler, your knowledge of football history and football rules amaze me. I don’t want to get into a long argument with you, but just want to point out two pathedic statements you spewed. You say the Pats were 0-3 in the playoffs games after spygate. The fact is the rule violation happened week two against the Jets and they won the first two playoff games that post season which with the Super Bowl loss to the Giants made them 2-1 in the post season. Also the statement that Brady got the defences’ play in his helmet holds no water. The coach to QB signal is cut off with 15 seconds left in the 40 second clock, often the defence doesn’t show it’s formation until the last second to confuse the offense. Plus many coaches stated they knew the Pats and other teams were stealing signals that’s why they changed them game to game, this practice has been going on in college and profootball for decades.

  66. kindbass says: Aug 15, 2013 10:21 PM

    Haha, it’s amazing how many people still completely misunderstand “spygate”.

  67. forsbergler says: Aug 15, 2013 11:14 PM

    What’s it matter who I cheer for? I’m speaking fact hear, these arnt opinions. I speak for raiders fans who got robbed in 02. I speak for rams fans who got screwed in 02. I speak for eagles fans who got screwed, I speak for colts fans who got screwed, I speak for every AFC team and NFC that lost to you jokes in the SB. So who really cares who I go for. Why so you can try and chirp me with because your team cheated its way to 3 SB victories? You can’t chirp anyone ! Your team is the biggest chokers of all time. And are the laughing stock of the league every time you get smoked in the playoffs. Every year you have the easiest schedules and lose to every good team you play then you lose to the 1st good defence you play in the playoffs. FACT…..the truth hurts? Doesn’t it?

  68. forsbergler says: Aug 15, 2013 11:38 PM

    Once again why do pats fans keep referring to there team as #1? Like I’ve said 100 times you haven’t been number 1 since what was it 05? So please stop referring to yourselfs as number 1 because the only thing u guys have been number 1 at is SB losses, and choke jobs…..FACT….you haven’t won a championship in like 8 years…trust me….no one is jealous.

  69. nmrdr795 says: Aug 16, 2013 12:19 AM

    Poor brady I hope his bruise heals ok….now back to jared veldheer with a torn bicep and ryan mathews coming back from two broken collar bones…and mingo with a bruised clavicle and … the real injurys go on well the fanboys feal bad for hairdo and his boring boston accent

  70. patsfan13 says: Aug 16, 2013 6:00 AM

    Forsbergler MAN UP and admit who the loser of a team you support. Bet you are afraid to admit the losers.

  71. TheWizard says: Aug 16, 2013 6:45 AM

    Now the Pats can get a 3 or 4 seed and bounced in the second round again.

    Most teams would consider that to be a pretty good year.

  72. bcgreg says: Aug 16, 2013 7:56 AM

    Hey, forsbergler. There is not ONE QB in the NFL today who runs his own offense or calls his own plays. Why do you think they all have ear pieces in their helmet?

    Also, some QBs wear wristbands to SAVE TIME. Instead of the coach yelling ZXsplitYwiggleZoneOut or some other long winded play code, they can say play # 4, and the QB can read what play # 4 is off the wristband. It’s called time management, fool. And, it’s called SMART! Also, Brady has the authority to change ANY play at the line. That’s called RUNNING THE OFFENSE.

    I know it’s been said–no, not that you’re intelligent–but the Pats went 16-0, have the best record in the NFL, have been to 2 Super Bowls and 3 AFCCGs, and Brady has 2 MVPs…since the most overblown incident in sports history. Every aspect of Spygate that haters want to throw out has been disproved. Stories on this have leaked out since and will continue to leak out showing how overblown it truly was. Over the last few years, the league has slowly and subtly changed its rules regarding cameras on the sidelines. If there is a no tolerance policy for cameras on the sidelines, then there should be no cameras on the sidelines. The league has NOT taken this position. Spygate. THE MOST OVERBLOWN STORY IN THE HISTORY OF SPORTS. And, at the same time, the best built in, made up excuse for the inadequacy of haters’ own teams.

  73. bcgreg says: Aug 16, 2013 8:09 AM

    forsbergler says:
    Aug 15, 2013 8:33 PM
    Oh it was legal huh? Why was it that only the pats lost a 1st round pick and was fined 750 000 dollars the most in nfl history btw? Ya keep tellin yourself that buddy.

    ——————

    Actually, the $750K fine is NOT the highest total fine levied in NFL history. Yes, Belichick was fined $500K, which is the highest amount allowed. And, it was the first time this happened. However, that combined with the $250K fine on the team is not the most ever.

    The Denver Broncos were fined over $900K on two separate occasions for salary cap violations. And the 49ers and all parties involved (agents) were ultimately fined over $1 million.

    Regarding the first round pick, I ask you this. Why was it that if the Patriots FAILED to make the playoffs in 2007 that they would surrender a 2nd round pick, but if they MADE the playoffs in 2007, they would lose their first round pick (remember that they acquired SFs first round pick, so they had 2 of them)? The league was going to punish the Patriots MORE for success WITHOUT the so called benefit of the cameras.

    IMO, Goodell dropped the hammer because he was the “new sheriff in town”. With the new personal conduct rules he implemented on the players, he needed to show he would come down hard on management too. Because of that, we have Spygate.

  74. kate773 says: Aug 16, 2013 10:00 AM

    Please stop feeding the illiterate troll. He’s loving the attention.

  75. pftwstbshmc says: Aug 16, 2013 10:07 AM

    forsbergler comments =

    “I hate Tom Brady”

    “I hate Bill Belichick”

    “I hate the Patriots”

    “My team is nothing but an also ran”

    Your childish comments amuse me….

  76. mightysimi says: Aug 16, 2013 10:13 AM

    Until the Pats win a Superbowl after Spygate, it will always be there. The only way to prove it had no bearing is to win. 0-2 so far.

  77. cliverush says: Aug 16, 2013 10:26 AM

    Andy Johnson, Jon Morris, Gino Cappeletti, Steve Kiner, Nick Buonoconti, Jim Nance, Art Graham, Len St. Jean, Larry Eisenhauer, Jim Hunt, Ron Burton, oh the memories. Harvard Stadium, Boston College’s Alumni Stadium, Fenway Park, Shaeffer. and of course Billy”Cheapskate” Sullivan and his idiot sons.

  78. flash1283 says: Aug 16, 2013 11:18 AM

    From the NFL Game Day Operations Manual states:

    1. Page 105 of the Game Operations manual: “No video recording devices of any kind are permitted to be in use in the coaches’ booth, on the field, or in the locker room during the game.” It later says: “All video shooting locations must be enclosed on all sides with a roof overhead.”

    By the way – it’s not a rule book, it’s a manual. It also covers things like the number of footballs the home team has to provide and appropriate clothing to be worn. It seems like after several complaints from teams about opponents taping (perhaps Green Bay about the Pats) a “clarifying” memo was sent out:

    A memo from Ray Anderson, NFL head of football operations, to head coaches and GMs on Sept. 6, 2006 said: “Video taping of any type, including but not limited to taping of an opponent’s offensive or defensive signals, is prohibited on the sidelines, in the coaches’ booth, in the locker room, or at any other locations accessible to club staff members during the game.”

    —-

    So again it is LEGAL to video signals as long as you are doing it from the designated areas.

  79. mjgp3 says: Aug 16, 2013 11:30 AM

    @captainwisdom8888: Stupid point. I assume you mean one other Patriot’s quartback… people who have never watched a game of football in their lives could give you Dan Marino, Joe Montana, etc. Brady has been the starter (barring injury) for 13 years. Bledsoe was the same since 1993. That’s 20 years since one of them wasn’t the presumed starter… there are high school graduates who weren’t born when Bledsoe made his first start. There are legally drinking adults that were 1 year old for Bledsoe’s first start. I was 5… sorry I don’t have Steve Grogan jersey.

  80. forsbergler says: Aug 16, 2013 12:51 PM

    People with the argument that other teams are doing it…..well your absolutly right…..Denvers Josh McDoink got fined for doing it as well….oh….never mind…he works for the Pats still….my bad

  81. forsbergler says: Aug 16, 2013 1:37 PM

    If Bill Belichick innocently “misinterpreted” the video policy (after all teams received a written warning less than a year earlier), why did the “innocent” videographers (including Matt Walsh) lie to sideline security about what they were doing?

    Wasn’t it strange that the NFL decided to minimize the escapade before talking to Walsh, the star witness? Why is Walsh under a gag order now? Why was the evidence destroyed quickly, an act that defies all logic of investigative process?

    Who is Ernie Adams and why is he the most powerful football mind that no one has ever heard of?

    Belichick brought Adams to Cleveland in 1991 and after a few years, Browns owner Art Modell offered $10,000 to anyone who could tell him what Adams did! Players still to this day chuckle at the shroud of secrecy that surrounds that man.

    Belichick claimed that he didn’t use the taped signals during the games in question, his “misunderstanding” loophole. Why then did he tape games of teams he wouldn’t see again that year, including our 2004 AFC Championship Game, which Senator Arlen Spector stated on the Senate floor that Steelers players thought the Patriots knew everything that Pittsburgh was going to do?

    Why does Belichick continue to hire cardboard cutouts for coordinators – young people with no experience or older failures – or hire no coordinators at all? Is it interesting that one such young failure, Josh McDaniels, was caught video cheating soon after he moved to Denver?

    hmmmmm all interesting question arn’t they?

  82. forsbergler says: Aug 16, 2013 1:55 PM

    *cricket* *cricket*

  83. bcgreg says: Aug 16, 2013 4:46 PM

    @ forsbergler, son of Ham

    A lot of teams WERE doing this. It was a LEAGUE memo, not a memo to the Patriots. Jimmy Johnson and the Cowboys for one. Johnson said he learned from a scout on the KC Chiefs, who at the time had Schottenheimer as HC, Cowher, Dungy, and Herm Edwards as coaches. All 3 of those guys said that they didn’t get much from those tapes. When Dungy got the HC job in TB, he brought along that same scout from KC, who continued the practice in TB.

    As far as Matt Walsh is concerned, why would anyone want to talk to him now? He made his statement. There was no story. He was only a story at the time because the Boston Herald ERRONEOUSLY reported that Walsh taped the Rams SB walkthrough. The paper had to print a retraction and an apology for the RUMOR! Walsh also went on HBO to do an interview after he talked with Goodell. There was no gag order on him. He was a NON STORY after the facts came out.

    I agree. I do not understand why Goodell destroyed the tapes. Let everybody who wants to watch them , watch them. If more people saw them, they would have laughed at the supposed controversy. There’s nothing really on them that you don’t see in a normal broadcast except for the fact that the camera shows the scoreboard and then the sideline for each play. So what? You can’t hear anything really either. Fox Sports had one posted for awhile, and you could find it for some time. It wasn’t hard to find back then.

    Ernie Adams? He’s basically the Bill James of the NFL. From what I’ve read, he has a photographic memory and remembers everything. Mike Vrabel called him Google because of his memory. He’s not a coach. He’s more of a consultant, but he has worked in scouting departments and player personnel departments. He was given his first NFL job in 1975. But, I guess every team that Adams has worked for has cheated. He also went to high school and played football there with Belichick. Who is Adams? A lifelong friend who has analyzed football strategies with Belichick for about 40 years.

    Why did he tape games of opponents he wouldn’t play again? He’s on record as saying that he kept a dossier of prospective head coaching prospects for future reference. He did watch substitution patterns, but he also stated that he gathered info on the coaching prospects. How did they react to certain situations? How did they react under stress? Basically, he was looking for their tells (like in poker). You really should read Education of a Coach.

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