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Lions lose their cool in loss to Browns

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The Lions aren’t getting arrested at the rate they used to, but they’re still running afoul of the on-field law.

They were hit with three 15-yard penalties in last night’s loss to the Browns, and they were clearly struggling with their inability to keep their cool.

“Any time you have personal foul penalties, that’s a mental thing you have to do a better job of controlling yourself, controlling your emotions,” quarterback Matthew Stafford said, via Justin Rogers of MLive.com.

The first came when running back Reggie Bush shoved Browns linebacker D’Qwell Jackson (who Bush thought was guilty of a late hit), setting up a third-and-24.

“I know better,” Bush said. “I’ve been in this league long enough, and have enough experience, to know that those type of penalties can completely change a game, completely change the momentum of a game. It starts with me. I know better than to do things like that.”

Usual suspect Ndamukong Suh also was flagged for a late hit on Browns quarterback Brandon Weeden, and defensive end Willie Young for shoving a Browns player after the whistle.

Fair or not, Suh and the Lions have developed a reputation for an aggressive style, and their margin of error is not such that they can give up 45 yards a week without  it costing them.

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58 Responses to “Lions lose their cool in loss to Browns”
  1. sosuhme says: Aug 16, 2013 9:44 AM

    If Schwartz can’t put an end to this crap the Lions need to put an end to his tenure as head coach

  2. pl4tinum514 says: Aug 16, 2013 9:46 AM

    you know you’re bad when the Browns piss you off.

  3. GenXJay says: Aug 16, 2013 9:48 AM

    The Pistons were the original ‘Bad Boys’.
    The Lions are simply loose cannons

  4. floratiotime says: Aug 16, 2013 9:49 AM

    Cheap shots after the whistle are not an ‘aggressive style’. It’s just dirty football.

  5. theslex says: Aug 16, 2013 9:49 AM

    It all starts with their man-child head coach. As an NFC North fan, I hope he keeps his job for decades to come.

    I used to pity Lions fans, but as soon as they got a taste of plus .500 football they became unbearable.

  6. realfootballfan says: Aug 16, 2013 9:51 AM

    All of it starts with the head coach who developed the same kind of culture when he was with Jeff Fisher. Don’t hold your breath waiting for this to change until Schwartz is fired.

  7. wtfchiefs says: Aug 16, 2013 9:51 AM

    Shoving is a 15 yard penalty now?

  8. mikewhorio says: Aug 16, 2013 9:56 AM

    The Suh one wasn’t a big deal. Not saying it didn’t deserve the flag, but it was one of those bang-bang plays that just happens. Bush should know better, but wouldn’t be too worried about it. Willie Young is an idiot.

  9. ccrc55 says: Aug 16, 2013 9:57 AM

    Gotta clean this crap up before the season starts. All falls on the coach.

  10. polegojim says: Aug 16, 2013 9:59 AM

    It’s one thing to be ‘tough guys’… and WIN

    But trying to be all ‘bad boy’… and getting your butts kicked? That’s just silly and foolish.

    And also earlier in the week to say ‘I’ve matured as a player’… evidently NOT.

    C’mon guys…what the heck??? Just perform as you’re expected and forget the rest of the crap.

    You didn’t do your jobs and helped the Browns look good… go shove YOURSELVES around for THAT!

  11. bluemonstaz says: Aug 16, 2013 10:00 AM

    D’Qwell easily one of the best LBs in the game way way underrated

  12. irvin12589 says: Aug 16, 2013 10:01 AM

    This is for sure going to be hmmmm whats the word I am looking for….lets go with INTRIGUING. It is going to be an intriguing year for Lions football

  13. eatitfanboy says: Aug 16, 2013 10:05 AM

    This shouldn’t surprise anybody.

    Obviously, cleaning this up is not important to Schwartz or he would have done it by now.

    The fact that Bush, who has never been known to start trouble on the field, is getting into the act tells me that this is simply part of the culture Schwartz has installed with the Lions for one reason or another.

    Not sure why he feels that his team’s reputation of being easily goaded into committing stupid penalties is a good thing, or at least not something he needs to correct, but there you have it.

  14. golynxgo says: Aug 16, 2013 10:07 AM

    Criminals on and off the field.
    Gut losing Kim to a wimp like Kanye will make anyone irrational

  15. darkneptune73 says: Aug 16, 2013 10:07 AM

    It’s quite clear the Lions coaches still don’t know how to teach discipline.

  16. razzlejag says: Aug 16, 2013 10:08 AM

    Does Coach Schwartz even have control of his team? This undisciplined approach to games (and even to life with respect to all the arrests) would suggest otherwise.

    Throw in last year’s record (4-12 or 5-11?) and that guy is in the crosshairs.

  17. str8up12 says: Aug 16, 2013 10:09 AM

    When players continue to make the same mistakes, that’s a coaching thing not a mental thing.

  18. izlez says: Aug 16, 2013 10:09 AM

    “Usual suspect” Suh didn’t have a penalty off any variety through the 1st 15 weeks or so of last season

  19. acdc84 says: Aug 16, 2013 10:14 AM

    Suh is a chump.

  20. crownofthehelmet says: Aug 16, 2013 10:15 AM

    So much for the new, improved, matured Suh.

  21. bmorepositive123 says: Aug 16, 2013 10:15 AM

    In business they call that the ‘top down approach’…

  22. hehateme2 says: Aug 16, 2013 10:15 AM

    Poor coaching and management of their players. They will never be taken seriously until they grow up.

  23. ilovefoolsball says: Aug 16, 2013 10:18 AM

    Crap floats downstream. The coach is upstream

  24. warhammer420 says: Aug 16, 2013 10:22 AM

    Might as well get the personal fouls out of your system during the preseason!

  25. jimmysee says: Aug 16, 2013 10:28 AM

    If they could play the game better, it wouldn’t come to that.

  26. ballsoharduniversity52 says: Aug 16, 2013 10:31 AM

    Must be something in the water in Detroit.

  27. joeslacco says: Aug 16, 2013 10:32 AM

    Damn, you must be a Browns fan. So hostile toward the aggressive Leo’s.

  28. mn1288 says: Aug 16, 2013 10:39 AM

    Anyone surprised? Their coach is a brawler! It’s like the XFL with these clowns.

  29. zo121179 says: Aug 16, 2013 10:39 AM

    Oh this is going to be a fun year in NFC North.

  30. packy305 says: Aug 16, 2013 10:40 AM

    The lack of discipline comes from the head coach . Same old Lions.

  31. ososrule says: Aug 16, 2013 10:44 AM

    Typical…..and this after an article 2 days about Suh saying, “its not about Brute Strength”. Dirtiest player ever!

  32. dbennett65 says: Aug 16, 2013 10:44 AM

    Bush’s penalty was in retaliation of a BS hit from the Browns LB. The LB should have been flagged.

  33. lionsplayoffs says: Aug 16, 2013 10:51 AM

    At least the defense is getting recognized for SOMETHING. Gonna be another long season of watching opponents consistently convert on 3rd and 12.

  34. r8rsfan says: Aug 16, 2013 10:52 AM

    Watched this same stuff go on in Oakland from the time Chucky left until McKenzie took over. It might be entertaining for a while, but the show gets old fast and like Rich Gannon said, the only way to fix it is to “blow the whole thing up”. Raiders are still clearing away the rubble and beginning to rebuild the foundation.

  35. whatjusthapped says: Aug 16, 2013 10:57 AM

    Schwartz is clearly one of those coaches who can’t seem to control himself so why would anyone be surprised that his team follows this poor example of sportsmanship?

    Schwartz is a joke and after a decade of Matt Millen, you would think the owners could recognize incompetence by now.

  36. takemytalentstosoutheuclid says: Aug 16, 2013 10:58 AM

    Suh should have had a second one for a late hit out of bounds on T-Rich.

  37. pbastille says: Aug 16, 2013 10:59 AM

    If they were “struggling with their inability to keep their cool”, wouldn’t that mean that they were keeping their cool?

  38. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Aug 16, 2013 11:47 AM

    Fantasy football team name: My Jim Schwartz are Dirty.

  39. blackhawks2010 says: Aug 16, 2013 11:55 AM

    Typical Lions behavior, embarrassing.

  40. nananatman says: Aug 16, 2013 12:00 PM

    They sucked in that game and the Browns especially Weedon looked amazing. That dude had some serious zip on the ball, nice tight spiral.

  41. primetime0552 says: Aug 16, 2013 12:05 PM

    takemytalentstosoutheuclid says: Aug 16, 2013 10:58 AM

    Suh should have had a second one for a late hit out of bounds on T-Rich.

    ============================

    He wasn’t out of bounds, he was running up the sideline. If Suh didn’t have the angle on him he probably would’ve had another 15-20 yards…..

  42. footballchic777 says: Aug 16, 2013 12:07 PM

    Such should have had one on a helmet to helmet late hit on T-Rich in the 1st qtr. too.

  43. formyministy says: Aug 16, 2013 12:15 PM

    point of reference, in last nights baltimore/atlanta game, BOTH THE RAVENS AND THE FALCONS COMMITTED THREE PERSONAL FOUL PENALTIES.

  44. jeromepc01 says: Aug 16, 2013 12:19 PM

    Unwanted penalties in a PRESEASON GAME??? OH MY GOD! NO FREAKING WAY! That’s never happened before.

  45. metalhead65 says: Aug 16, 2013 12:22 PM

    there is nothing unfair avout about it,the lions have proven they are good at only 1 thing and that is being cheap shot artists. until they stop running their mouths about how tough they are and prove it on the field then they deserve their reputation.

  46. thestrategyexpert says: Aug 16, 2013 12:22 PM

    They didn’t lose their cool, they never had any. We have had issues with penalties and discipline every season. This is the culture and the performance that our GM has come up with and it’s not going to change until he changes or he is replaced by somebody that has a vision for something cooler.

  47. vwbrown19 says: Aug 16, 2013 12:47 PM

    The Lions are horrible especially their defense.

  48. primetime0552 says: Aug 16, 2013 1:01 PM

    footballchic777 says:
    Aug 16, 2013 12:07 PM
    Such should have had one on a helmet to helmet late hit on T-Rich in the 1st qtr. too.

    —————

    Well since Richardson was in bounds, not sure how the hit was late. Helmet to helmet is okay on the ball carrier as long as its not with the crown of the helmet. Either way Suh hit him in the shoulder……….

  49. theboondoggles says: Aug 16, 2013 1:27 PM

    Settle down, ladies. It’s just the preseason. At least Suh didn’t pull a Delhomme on Weeden this year and for that, you’re welcome.

  50. oimakkamio says: Aug 16, 2013 1:49 PM

    suhs penalty was bang bang he just pushed him. but still a penalty. the hit on richardson was 100% legal. you see people when a guy that big runs that hard big hits happen. if richardson didnt want to get hit should have just ran out of bounds 3 yards sooner. I do agree though Schwartz needs to change things or it will be a short season for him and a long one for the D

  51. granadafan says: Aug 16, 2013 1:56 PM

    A zebra doesn’t change its stripes

  52. rockinron2 says: Aug 16, 2013 1:58 PM

    “Lions lose their cool in loss to Browns”
    Wait, when were the Lions cool?

    And how about Stafford without Calvin? 3 straight 3 and outs before a 4 and out. Not so easy to find open WR without 1 guy getting triple covered.

    Then 2nd string D comes in and he gets some yards and a FG. I’m sure if they would have left him in against the 3rd string D he really could have put up the FANTASY points!

  53. joewilliesshnoz says: Aug 16, 2013 2:12 PM

    A bunch of bums, coached by a bum.

  54. mack2x says: Aug 16, 2013 2:12 PM

    D’Qwell Jackson WAS guilty of a late hit.

  55. staffordsyear says: Aug 16, 2013 2:14 PM

    Meh, its preseason.

  56. seanpbeck says: Aug 16, 2013 2:16 PM

    I’m a Browns fan and Suh’s hit on Weeden is the bang-bang type play that was never illegal 10 years ago. Kind of a ticky-tacky call.

  57. originalsteelcurtain says: Aug 16, 2013 3:05 PM

    “Fair or not, Suh and the Lions have developed a reputation for an aggressive style, and their margin of error is not such that they can give up 45 yards a week without it costing them”

    …this type of creative commentary keeps me coming back to PFT. Nice work!

  58. oimakkamio says: Aug 16, 2013 3:06 PM

    rockinron2 says:
    Aug 16, 2013 1:58 PM
    “Lions lose their cool in loss to Browns”
    Wait, when were the Lions cool?

    And how about Stafford without Calvin? 3 straight 3 and outs before a 4 and out. Not so easy to find open WR without 1 guy getting triple covered.

    Then 2nd string D comes in and he gets some yards and a FG. I’m sure if they would have left him in against the 3rd string D he really could have put up the FANTASY points!

    ——————————————-
    its was still the first string, stupid. But yes Calvin Johnson is the most important person for that offense. he takes away coverage from the other recievers.

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