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Dennis Allen not happy with his starters in loss to Saints

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The Raiders fell behind 23-0 in the first half of their preseason loss to the Saints, and coach Dennis Allen was not happy with his starters, on offense, defense or special teams.

I don’t know if we played well in any one of the three phases in the first half,” Allen said.

The Saints had Drew Brees and the first-string offense going up against the Raiders’ first-string defense for five series, and New Orleans scored on all of them, with two touchdowns and three field goals. The Raiders did score a touchdown with quarterback Matt Flynn leading the starting offense, but it came at the end of the first half, when the Saints had already pulled many of their defensive starters. Allen said he was frustrated with the way the Raiders’ offensive line failed to protect Flynn.

“I think he was under duress most of the evening,” Allen said. “[The Saints] brought a lot of pressure, and they did some different stuff than they did in the first preseason game.”

The Raiders will need to protect Flynn a lot better when the regular season starts.

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  1. humb0lt says: Aug 17, 2013 10:51 AM

    I thought the Raiders couldn’t be any more embarrassing than the lows of circa 2006. But this year’s team may reach a new low. I wonder if they will win a single game this season.

  2. ozymandias121 says: Aug 17, 2013 10:56 AM

    Bro, you are coaching the Raiders not the 49ers.

  3. crybabyrivers says: Aug 17, 2013 11:07 AM

    The chargers played just as awful humbolt . So don’t go puffing out your chest like you guys have accomplished anything in this league because as far as I remember you’ve never won anyring.

  4. siggtacular says: Aug 17, 2013 11:09 AM

    To both of you raiders and chargers fans, Ravens will always be supreme

  5. sportsmeccabi says: Aug 17, 2013 11:10 AM

    Clowney or Bridgewater?

  6. jtbaudendistel says: Aug 17, 2013 11:11 AM

    Just win baby

  7. donkeydik says: Aug 17, 2013 11:17 AM

    Starts with the coaches. Good coaching starts with inspiring the players. Convince them to buy what you are shoveling. Jim Harbaugh and Pete Carroll a great examples of this. I have heard nobody in the press say that Allen does this.
    Everyone should remember those teachers in school that electrify the room with their style of teaching. Made you feel good about learning. Those were always the popular teachers.

    “Brought a lot of pressure, and they did some different stuff than they did in the first preseason game.” Duh!
    This means Allen and his coaches dropped the ball in preparing for the game. We all saw what Payton and crew did to the 49ers in preseason 2 years ago. This should have been expected. Payton was exerting dominance by pissing on his former pupil.

    Don’t throw your players under the bus unless you’re under the bus first!

  8. dt58 says: Aug 17, 2013 11:21 AM

    He’s not happy with his starters because they’d be 3rd stringers on most teams

  9. jonbeezy says: Aug 17, 2013 11:22 AM

    This team is starting off like an expansion team. There is no foundation. It takes time . Flynn is not a playmaker. He’s a system guy . To be honest the best and talented player on this team is Pryor. They just have to give him his full opportunity. Not a package a play here or there. Why did you keep him? Give him 4-5 games to start starting week one. Let him build confidence. He is a pre Madonna a guy who shows up on game . The boy can play and will only get better by playing games, he can take over games, more importantly win some on his own.

  10. kenstabler says: Aug 17, 2013 11:22 AM

    With Veldheer out at LT the raiders are in sorry shape. Alex Barron got torched bad and I don’t even consider him an average left tackle. The only hope is that the second round pick Watson can get healthy and switch from RT to LT and play like a stud. I thought the raiders could be a spoiler this year, but you can see they are a different team without Veldheer manning the LT spot.

  11. seatownballers says: Aug 17, 2013 11:23 AM

    The defense will be better with clowney as team captain

  12. dougydougdoug says: Aug 17, 2013 11:23 AM

    Choo…Chooooooo!!!

  13. thethunderofgunns says: Aug 17, 2013 11:24 AM

    Yep, as a Raider fan, I just watched the game and frankly the starters looked horrible in all three phases. They keep this up and we will have Clowney and a new HC and possibly a new GM in ’14.

  14. mdd913 says: Aug 17, 2013 11:25 AM

    The Saints ARE going to a dominant force in the NFL this year. Getting beaten by them is not necessarily a sign that the Raiders are terrible.

    But they need to get that offense straightened out. Flynn looks good, McFadden is good, they have good receivers but nobody is on the same page.

  15. nananatman says: Aug 17, 2013 11:27 AM

    Pete Carol has also had more PED suspensions on his team than any other coach currently employed. I think they buy what he sells just fine.

  16. realdealsteel says: Aug 17, 2013 11:43 AM

    And now reality is setting in for the Raiders. I’ve been telling everyone that the Jets, Raiders and Jaguars are the worse teams in the league and they all will be the top three teams in the draft. In no particular order.

  17. raiderlyfe510 says: Aug 17, 2013 11:43 AM

    What’s up with all that blitzing that the Saints were doing on our backups. Man, can my squad get a good look at the players trying to make the roster? Save those exotic blitzes for the regular season when Rob Ryan’s defense is doing its weekly 4th quarter collapse.

    If Alex Barron is our starting LT..Im already looking forward to the 2014 season. Like the Original Raider scouting report on Alex Barron said several years ago… He’s “Cake” for pass rushers.

  18. thethunderofgunns says: Aug 17, 2013 11:45 AM

    mdd913 says:
    Aug 17, 2013 11:25 AM
    The Saints ARE going to a dominant force in the NFL this year. Getting beaten by them is not necessarily a sign that the Raiders are terrible.

    ————————————–

    Agreed somewhat but that is not the point. The real point is that the Raiders, instead of improving a little in execution of plays from one week to the next have instead regressed from the week prior.

  19. nomoreseasontix says: Aug 17, 2013 11:46 AM

    Gonna be a long season here….

  20. citizenstrange says: Aug 17, 2013 11:47 AM

    Did Dennis Allen not know of the gentleman’s agreement that could be reached where Sean Payton would not blitz if Allen kissed his feet?

    Jim Harbaugh had to learn the hard way that Payton and the Saints are preseason tough guys.

  21. corkspop says: Aug 17, 2013 11:53 AM

    Clow-NEE Clow-NEE

  22. raiders85 says: Aug 17, 2013 11:58 AM

    Blitzing in the preseason with jail break blitz and stuff like is bush league but we all know Rob Ryan is only a good dc in the preseason half the time not even but the Raiders better fix the oline and stop whining because that was embarrassing even by the Raiders standards

  23. willnit says: Aug 17, 2013 12:08 PM

    Flynn isn’t going to make it past week 6.

  24. cannonballdookie says: Aug 17, 2013 12:11 PM

    donkeydik says: Aug 17, 2013 11:17 AM

    Starts with the coaches. Good coaching starts with inspiring the players. Convince them to buy what you are shoveling. Jim Harbaugh and Pete Carroll a great examples of this. I have heard nobody in the press say that Allen does this.
    Everyone should remember those teachers in school that electrify the room with their style of teaching. Made you feel good about learning. Those were always the popular teachers.

    “Brought a lot of pressure, and they did some different stuff than they did in the first preseason game.” Duh!
    This means Allen and his coaches dropped the ball in preparing for the game. We all saw what Payton and crew did to the 49ers in preseason 2 years ago. This should have been expected. Payton was exerting dominance by pissing on his former pupil.

    Don’t throw your players under the bus unless you’re under the bus first!
    ————————————————-

    Obviously their coaching choices haven’t been very good but when you fire coaches after a year or two for the past two decades, no half decent coach will want to take the job.

    Not to mention the talent level on the team is flat out abysmal, most of these guys come in with no chance at success.

    The ownership needs to realize there is no quick fix for this team and give the GM and coaching staff the benefit of the doubt, for at least another season or two.

  25. realfootballfan says: Aug 17, 2013 12:18 PM

    Worst roster in football to go with the worst coach. Jags vs. Raiders for the number one pick in a month.

  26. raiderlyfe510 says: Aug 17, 2013 12:22 PM

    If Alex Barron starts at LT all I gotta say is TP stay ready. I doubt Matt Flynn lasts. Alex Barron is QB Killa 2.0..Mario Henderson was the original QB Killa. Mario has nothing on Alex Barron. Alex Barron plays LT like a Mexican Bullfighter….ole!!!

  27. brazy44 says: Aug 17, 2013 12:41 PM

    MDS can you at least attempt to research what you say. That TD before the end of the half was caught by Denarious Moore over their starting cornerback, their prized free agent from Pittsburg. All of their starters were on the field genius. Get a clue lame.
    Alex Barron gave up one sack and he’s a revolving door? The running backs keep missing blitz pickup, that’s two weeks in a row by McFadden, not good. The RG was horrible last night, missed a blitzer right in front of his face. Penalties killed some drives too and Flynn missed a wide open TE for a TD on their first drive. All correctable coaching items. Sure am glad these games are decided on the field and not by the experts. Will be interesting to see who is willing to eat some crow when the Siver & Black win some games this year.
    And how many times does Mark Davis need to say Reggie is his guy and will get to work thru his 5 year contract, before you get off the dumping the GM after this year crap.
    Listen, it’s cool, I know a Raider fan used to bully you, so I get the hate. Just try to have some facts to support it.
    MUCH RESPECT TO THE NATION
    IN REGGIE WE TRUST

  28. atwatercrushesokoye says: Aug 17, 2013 12:43 PM

    Well the mess in Oakland was bad, it was going to take several years to dig out, but this likely will be the year they bottom out and then things will start to get better for them, they just have too much cap room, all of their 2014 picks and what should be a very high pick in next year’s draft for it not to.

    Now with that out of the way, I’m going to enjoy the two beatdowns that the Broncos put on you this year!

  29. nomoreseasontix says: Aug 17, 2013 12:45 PM

    Not expecting much….
    We have Flynn, who is a serviceable system QB; Pryor, who is… well, Pryor; Mcfadden, who will be injured by week 5; Moore, who can be a good receiver at times, when he’s not running the wrong route or dropping a pass…
    The list goes on….

  30. stonefish67 says: Aug 17, 2013 12:57 PM

    What coach would be happy if they were smashed while their first team were in there.
    This reporter is a brain surgeon.

  31. tdk24 says: Aug 17, 2013 1:09 PM

    Inhale….exhale. It’s only preseason.

  32. flexx91 says: Aug 17, 2013 1:10 PM

    To brazy44……..

    That goes for you as well regarding the Moore TD as the rookie safety bit on a pump fake (he was suppose to cover the deep route on that play). And as far as starters go, they were still missing three defensive starters who didn’t even suit up to play -along with two starters on offense. The Saints actually started two first year WRs (Stills and Toon).

    As was mentioned before, get ready for the Clowney sweepstakes. You’re sadly mistaken if you think the Raiders are going to win more than 6 games.

  33. biggamehunter98 says: Aug 17, 2013 1:24 PM

    After that performance the coaches know what they have in Barron. Its still week 2 of preseason so there is some time to fix it and possibly bring someone in but the window is closing (rapidly). So Reggie, Dennis….fix it please.

  34. ninerswilldominatelikebefore says: Aug 17, 2013 1:44 PM

    HAHAHA the raiders are a joke, go back to LA we dont want u in the bay

  35. radrntn says: Aug 17, 2013 1:59 PM

    first off…the presason is just that…the presaeson…these games mean nothing and show a pretty much vanilla playbook….with that said Brees did what he has done to the raiders his entire carreer, which makes me laugh even more that dumbolts team traded him.
    The other thing one can pretty much be assure if Ryan’s D wants to rush 5 or 6 guys on every play which is not common in the preseason,(still a little bitter about being passed up for the head coaching job in oakland eh?) I am sure in a real game the offense will throw some screen passes to the RB which the raiders never did the entire night. all in all the raiders look like what could be expected against a far better team…Thank God we are in the AFC Worse i mean west.

  36. jmac34 says: Aug 17, 2013 2:14 PM

    Raiders fans need to realize that you have to tear down before you can rebuild. This teams was always going to be terrible this year

  37. granadafan says: Aug 17, 2013 2:33 PM

    I’m a Niners fan but grew up also watching the Raiders. It’s ok for Bay Area fans to like both teams and only the small minded hate one or the other. I hope the Raiders can get their act together. I’m also a taxpayer of Alameda County and want the Raiders to do well so we can stop paying for the ugly renovations Skeletor did to the Oakland Coliseum.

  38. ron69 says: Aug 17, 2013 2:58 PM

    But we are already called “The killer B’s” i wonder if Barron, Bergstrom, Brisiel and Barnes are set to kill his own QB or is that Flynn ate too much honey.

  39. demolition510 says: Aug 17, 2013 3:03 PM

    I’m truly convince Dumbolt knows nothing about football.

  40. saints4life57 says: Aug 17, 2013 3:20 PM

    I love all you guys making comments on the Saints for blitzing so much last night! Pre-Season or not your players should be ready to play at all times! IMO the starters should be able to pick those blitz’s up and the 2nd and 3rd string should be trying their ass’s off trying to make the team, so don’t blame the Saints because Raiders players don’t know how to block! If anything it helped your team by exposing the weak points of your offense! Just goes to show you the difference between a playoff team and a team who will be lucky to get a couple wins! On the other hand I think Flynn looked pretty damn good when he got a chance to throw the ball! He was a bold person for standing in the pocket and taking those hits! That’s one bright spot you guys have! GL

  41. mullman76 says: Aug 17, 2013 3:58 PM

    The Raiders look a little rough around the edges.

    Humbolt is still a kook.

    Everything is as expected.

    Go Raiders

  42. coachbeck says: Aug 17, 2013 5:17 PM

    Allen and makenzie lol.

    They dumped Hue Jackson for these jokers lol

  43. coachbeck says: Aug 17, 2013 5:18 PM

    And thanks again for Hue Jackson and taking Carson Palmer

    Dre Kirkpatrick and Gio Bernard are very promising

  44. raiderapologist says: Aug 17, 2013 5:27 PM

    humb0lt says: Aug 17, 2013 10:51 AM

    I thought the Raiders couldn’t be any more embarrassing than the lows of circa 2006. But this year’s team may reach a new low. I wonder if they will win a single game this season.
    ————-
    You would think hump would be a little more appreciative of the fact that the Raiders are cleaning out the garage. Oakland is San Diego’s only chance of staying out of the AFC West basement this year.

  45. nflfolly says: Aug 17, 2013 7:19 PM

    Raiders have the worst GM in the league. He is clueless and in way over his head. Time to find a real GM.

  46. kerbyjr1 says: Aug 19, 2013 10:38 AM

    We are in deep trouble raider nation

  47. justaraiderfan says: Aug 19, 2013 3:51 PM

    I have no dreams of grandiose regarding the Raiders this year. I can & will admit that they may just be one of the worst teams this year (J-E-T-S & Jags also in contention). This was a longtime coming and even the “experts” wondered why Al just didn’t blow it up and start over (or at least stop w/the insane contracts) before it got away from him.

    I’m willing to cut Reggie some slack because he was given keys to a classic car but, three of the four tires were blown, the engine was leaking oil and about to blow, the transmission was stuck in reverse and the driver in all due respect should’ve stopped driving about 5-7 years ago. RM is doing what he has to do (no matter how painful) to get the Raiders back on track. There’s no genie in a bottle that he has that can magically make the last 11-12 years seem as if they didn’t happen.

    I’ve already prepared myself for this team to be no more than 3-13 and even winning 3 will be a stretch.

    However, I’m still a Raider4Life!!!

  48. open1337 says: Aug 21, 2013 1:58 AM

    Drama

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