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Three ’72 Dolphins skip White House visit for political reasons

Manny Fernandez AP

President Obama is welcoming the undefeated 1972 Dolphins to the White House today, but three players won’t be there because they have a problem with the president.

Former Dolphins guard Bob Kuechenberg, center Jim Langer and defensive tackle Manny Fernandez all told Dave Hyde of the Sun Sentinel that they don’t want to appear alongside a president whose policies they don’t support.

“I’ll just say my views are diametrically opposed to the president’s,” Fernandez said. “Enough said. Let’s leave it at that. I hope everyone enjoys the trip who goes.”

Added Kuechenberg, “I want to be careful, because mom said if you have nothing good to say about someone, then don’t say anything. I don’t have anything good to say about someone.”

Langer suggested that it would be phony for him to pretend he has something to celebrate in the White House, as long as Obama is occupying the White House.

“We’ve got some real moral compass issues in Washington,” Langer said. “I don’t want to be in a room with those people and pretend I’m having a good time. I can’t do that. If that [angers] people, so be it.”

Whether it angers people or not, Hyde notes that it does feed a widespread perception that the ’72 Dolphins are a bunch of “Grumpy Old Men” who don’t take much joy in celebrating their great accomplishment but do delight in denigrating others, and toasting when the last undefeated NFL team loses each season. Obama is rightly recognizing that the ’72 Dolphins were a great team. If three players can’t put politics aside for long enough to enjoy that recognition, that’s their problem.

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289 Responses to “Three ’72 Dolphins skip White House visit for political reasons”
  1. whatjusthapped says: Aug 20, 2013 10:55 AM

    Watch out, IRS audits are never fun and I have a gut feeling that these three are about to find out.

  2. dgoens3109 says: Aug 20, 2013 10:55 AM

    Good, they can all stay in 1972 where they belong. Freaking jokers.

  3. wvuandsteelers says: Aug 20, 2013 10:55 AM

    My new 3 favorite all time players.

  4. jimrose62012 says: Aug 20, 2013 10:57 AM

    It’s too late for the country to put politics aside. This is bigger than politics. Pretending everything is just peachy is the real cowardice.

  5. therealtrenches says: Aug 20, 2013 10:57 AM

    Grumpy, poorly informed, tea-drinking old men.

  6. jessieboom says: Aug 20, 2013 10:58 AM

    Keith Sims said it best….they forgot there was no I in TEAM.

  7. asimonetti88 says: Aug 20, 2013 10:58 AM

    This is simply a PR move by the White House, and if they don’t want to be part of the PR for the White House then more power to them. They aren’t hurting anyone and their comments were very tame.

  8. corkspop says: Aug 20, 2013 10:58 AM

    Congratulations to these three for not belittling their beliefs.

  9. JP says: Aug 20, 2013 10:58 AM

    Aw how cute, these guys think their opinions matter.

  10. randy2054 says: Aug 20, 2013 10:58 AM

    well my opinion this just shows of the NFL needs to do far more research on the damage done the brains and professional football here we are with three or redneck conservative players who obviously took one too many blows to the head. Surely to God you can put your partisan point of view aside for one afternoon and enjoying the afternoon with your fellow teammates. Early-onset Alzheimer’s or just the plain everyday redneck conservative get over yourselves!

  11. kylexitron says: Aug 20, 2013 10:59 AM

    Everyone rarely agrees with every president, that’s not really the point. These guys seem like real drama queens. Get over yourselves. Nobody remembers who you are so nobody is going to lose any sleep over this.

  12. nflofficeadmin says: Aug 20, 2013 11:00 AM

    Why go to Washington when you have a bird like that in Miami.

  13. harrisonhits2 says: Aug 20, 2013 11:00 AM

    Fins tampered to get Shula and would not likely have gone undefeated without him setting the roster and his coaching decisions. Their undefeated season is tainted as a result.

  14. cliverush says: Aug 20, 2013 11:01 AM

    These old grumpy men should use the occasion to enjoy a day at the White House with their kids and grand kids and put the politics aside. The White House represents a great deal more than just the current administration, it represents the working democracy of this Great Nation. Tim Thomas used the same situation and paid the price of mixing politics with sports.

  15. R.H. says: Aug 20, 2013 11:01 AM

    Michael, your last paragraph summed it up for me personally. This goes for every player who is being honored at the White House…nobody cares how what your opinion is with who is the President or his/her policies and stance.

    You are being honored for your achievements, not your political view. Either shut up and go, or stay at home. Politics be damned when you’re being celebrated for doing something great that people recognize and applaud.

  16. areyoudue says: Aug 20, 2013 11:02 AM

    “that’s their problem”??? Aah, no, it’s their right as they see fit to exercise it. Just because you don’t agree doesn’t make it a problem.

  17. dryzzt23 says: Aug 20, 2013 11:02 AM

    1st amendment anyone? NO ONE should rip these guys for choosing to not be in the company of a person that they do not agree with.
    Liberal players did this same thing when President George W. Bush was in the White House, and the media labeled those players as “heroes” and “courageous” for standing up for their political beliefs.
    But yet again, the double standard applies. If a liberal stands up for their beliefs they are praised and applauded, if a conservative stands up for their beliefs they get ripped to shreds by the media and a witchunt ensues to destroy that conservative.

  18. 1972wasalongtimeago says: Aug 20, 2013 11:03 AM

    Dolphins fans have had to endure more embarrassing moments since 1996 than just about any franchise in sports. But I want to congratulate these three idiots for being the most embarrassing yet.

    Let’s get down to the problem. These three guys can’t handle the fact that Obama realizes its no big deal if two dudes get married. These three guys who mad their living rolling around in the dirt with other dudes while wearing tight pants. What a joke.

  19. len462 says: Aug 20, 2013 11:03 AM

    There has to be some really great guy’s that played on that team. How come we only hear from the same few angry old men all the time?

  20. drewsylvania says: Aug 20, 2013 11:03 AM

    This president has presided over some good things, and some awful things. I don’t blame anyone for either going or not going. Personal preference should be fine.

  21. howiefeltersnatch says: Aug 20, 2013 11:04 AM

    Had it been a Bush in the White House and three members decided to not attend the event, the story would be ‘Good for them for not letting a something that happened forty years ago not get in the way of their political convictions’.

  22. badphish24 says: Aug 20, 2013 11:04 AM

    Bitter Republicans will be bitter.

  23. buckeye1nation says: Aug 20, 2013 11:04 AM

    More food for the rest of them..I wish people could put politics aside for a while and just enjoy the moment. And regardless of whether you agree with the politics, meeting the POTUS is a once in a lifetime opportunity. Passing that up is moronic.

  24. annapterp says: Aug 20, 2013 11:04 AM

    Good for them. I tend to laugh at the 72 Dolphins for their immature behavior when it comes to the undefeated season, but I don’t see any problem with these 3 not going to the white house. They were asked why and gave very fair answers to the question.

    I’m a nobody and I wouldn’t go if invited either.

  25. 12444uggg says: Aug 20, 2013 11:04 AM

    this current admin isn’t friends with half the country, they’re just observant enough to realize it.

  26. seauxwhut67 says: Aug 20, 2013 11:05 AM

    Don’t mind these three. There’s still bitter they didn’t get to meet Nixon.

  27. len462 says: Aug 20, 2013 11:05 AM

    Also, 3 seconds after that picture was taken he crapped his diaper…

  28. anarchopurplism says: Aug 20, 2013 11:06 AM

    Voicing your rationale for not wanting to participate in a celebration with somebody you diametrically oppose & saying it politely is not “a problem.”

    This should be celebrated. They are prioritizing their beliefs. Its what the 1st Amendment is all about.

    Sometimes convictions outweigh putting aside differences for the sake of a party.

    Bravo!

  29. grogansheroes says: Aug 20, 2013 11:06 AM

    When Tim Thomas did this, he was run out of town on a rail. After leading the Bruins to a Cup for the first time in 39 years. Good for the three of them. Certainly none of the media will criticize this administration. Now if it were Bush… Actually, have they stopped blaming Bush for everything yet?

  30. joemac1114 says: Aug 20, 2013 11:06 AM

    Yawn, yeah old guys with a political agenda avoiding a celebration of their achievements. Set it aside and enjoy the recognition.

  31. woodygg says: Aug 20, 2013 11:06 AM

    Which is why I don’t look to athletes to validate my political beliefs.

  32. seauxwhut67 says: Aug 20, 2013 11:06 AM

    God, I hate auto-correct.

  33. briang123 says: Aug 20, 2013 11:06 AM

    I’m no fan of Obama or the 1972 Dolphins (both need to just go away and move on to something else with their lives) but I wish these 3 guys would see past the politics and just enjoy the moment.

  34. bucrightoff says: Aug 20, 2013 11:07 AM

    Turning a non-political event into one by no showing is a petty move. How’d it work it for Tim Thomas by the way?

  35. fwippel says: Aug 20, 2013 11:07 AM

    Good for them. I don’t blame them, and I wouldn’t go if I was invited (regardless of the reason).

  36. scoops1 says: Aug 20, 2013 11:07 AM

    i’m glad our tax dollars will not be wasted now considering they were wasted on bringing the 85 bears to the White House…which should have happened when Sweetness was alive

  37. purpleguy says: Aug 20, 2013 11:07 AM

    Republican, Democrat, Libertarian or whatever — you don’t have to respect the person holding the office, but you should respect the office of the presidency, the team and the team-mates being honored. By refusing to attend and publicizing it, they are disrespecting all three and instead placing themselves above the office , their team and their team-mates. Their actions are hardly worthy of praise.

  38. koufaxmitzvah says: Aug 20, 2013 11:07 AM

    “Enough said. I hate the fact that this President is so concerned over health insurance. It makes my overly concussed brain swell even more.”

  39. credible316 says: Aug 20, 2013 11:07 AM

    What a bunch of losers. It’s the freaking White House, who cares what side your on. It’s a once in a lifetime opportunity.

  40. teambringitstrong says: Aug 20, 2013 11:08 AM

    Whenever someone mentions their moral compass, are you reading this, University of San Francisco, I always run the other direction.
    And where, pray tell did dryzzt23 come up with this revisionist history? Please don’t fall over grasping for those straws.
    And as far as disagreeing with POTUS’ policies there you 3 stooges, can you name at least one policy that you disagree with?

  41. craigkintexas says: Aug 20, 2013 11:08 AM

    Some of us have a belief that if you don’t stand for something, you’ll fall for anything. Thank you Kuechenberg, Fernandez and Langer!

  42. karlton3 says: Aug 20, 2013 11:08 AM

    dryzzt23 says:
    Aug 20, 2013 11:02 AM

    “1st amendment anyone? NO ONE should rip these guys for choosing to not be in the company of a person that they do not agree with.”

    ————————————————–

    Am I the only one that sees the hypocrisy of these two statements?

    Oh, and by the way, your inapplicable cited text:

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

  43. texanfan53 says: Aug 20, 2013 11:09 AM

    But did the ones who didn’t go pop champagne? That is the real question!

  44. gdeli says: Aug 20, 2013 11:10 AM

    and mercury morris has to tell everyone they went undefeated! ha

  45. ravenmuscle says: Aug 20, 2013 11:10 AM

    From what I hear these three were the dumbest guys on the team…so no surprise here.

    If Romney would have won they would have been the only three players to show up.

    Romney’s VIEWS are that of an idiot.

  46. 52lightsxout52 says: Aug 20, 2013 11:10 AM

    So the three players decided to remind everyone that the Emporer indeed “has no clothes”. What a shame, I could’ve swore that he’s been moonwalking on water the last 6 years. Go figure…

  47. jbaxt says: Aug 20, 2013 11:10 AM

    Good for the 3, if that’s their belief so be it. I’d take the title of grumpy old man over being a poser any day.

  48. cometkazie says: Aug 20, 2013 11:11 AM

    The only name I remember of the three is Kuechenberg and that is because it is an unusual name.

    And anonymous linemen they remain.

    It’s one thing to not show up and it’s another to broadcast it.

  49. thelastbesthope says: Aug 20, 2013 11:11 AM

    A good conscience matters more than a photo op.

    Well played.

  50. saintjohnwhodat says: Aug 20, 2013 11:12 AM

    Freedom
    Of association… I’d meet Obama but that’s their right you people who don’t understand that are a joke

  51. gzinn18631 says: Aug 20, 2013 11:12 AM

    Doesn’t matter. The Redskins will be setting a longer undefeated record within 5 seasons. HTTR

  52. blackfootkiller says: Aug 20, 2013 11:12 AM

    It’s called having principles, and convictions and sticking to them…
    Something sorely lacking in Washington…
    And from reading some of these comments…
    In some of the ‘so called’ men in this country.

  53. flickaboogie says: Aug 20, 2013 11:13 AM

    GOP- Grumpy Old People

  54. getyourownname says: Aug 20, 2013 11:14 AM

    They have the right to do this, but people need to learn to separate the office from the person. The President is not asking them to sign a political endorsement or use them in a political ad. It’s like understanding that you address the person in office as “Mr. President” whether you agree with him or not. You would expect the same civility from opponents of the person you voted for, if he won.

    And I’m not an Obama supporter.

  55. ravensterps says: Aug 20, 2013 11:14 AM

    dryzzt23 says: Aug 20, 2013 11:02 AM

    1st amendment anyone? NO ONE should rip these guys for choosing to not be in the company of a person that they do not agree with.

    ——————————————-

    You’re a conservative but you don’t understand the 1st Amendment? Isn’t the Constitution kind of your thing? The 1st Amendment provides freedom of speech to EVERYONE. They have a right to skip this visit, and I have a right to criticize them for it.

    I swear most conservatives think the 1st Amendment means “freedom of repercussion for speech.” Or “freedom of speech for me only.” If you actually supported the 1st Amendment, you wouldn’t be trying to silence people who are exercising it.

  56. tedmurph says: Aug 20, 2013 11:14 AM

    It’s not a political event, it’s a team celebration. There are plenty of other ways to voice your political beliefs, including the voting booth. Also, the Presisent is the President, Commander in Chief. He deserves repect, whether you disagree with his policies or not. Weak.

  57. mrpresident2 says: Aug 20, 2013 11:15 AM

    Class

  58. hardate says: Aug 20, 2013 11:15 AM

    Doesn’t he have anything better to do? Like golfing or maybe another vacation?

  59. ruvelligwebuike says: Aug 20, 2013 11:15 AM

    It took no time for the lefties to label them as tea party rednecks on this board. Look at the comments.

    Of course, they also are against judging people.

  60. 11inthebox says: Aug 20, 2013 11:15 AM

    Not surprised by Bob Kuechenberg. He’s a starchly conservative Notre Dame guy—no gay marriage and no abortion for him. So it’s understandable why he wouldn’t visit the white house.

    Gotta wonder if the rampant child molestation by catholic priests would keep Kuechenberg from visiting the vatican…

  61. ecupatsfan12 says: Aug 20, 2013 11:15 AM

    They probably don’t realize the odds of them running into Barry O are better on the golf course…

  62. jebbiesmallz says: Aug 20, 2013 11:15 AM

    Good to see they were able to rise above politics and relish an opportunity to promote sportsmanship, teamwork, and perseverance by reuniting with their colleagues.

    With their willingness to compromise and “can do” spirit, I’m sure they are models to their children and grandchildren, who will no doubt enjoy adult life with a well-roundedness few us can imagine.

    After all, why bother to have a spectrum of viewpoints and appreciate subtlety and nuance when you can just stomp your fist and say things like “I want to be careful, because mom said if you have nothing good to say about someone, then don’t say anything. I don’t have anything good to say about someone.”

    Stay small.

  63. maxlarsen1 says: Aug 20, 2013 11:16 AM

    I can’t stand Obama but if you have a chance to go to the White House I’d go

  64. mistersmith22 says: Aug 20, 2013 11:16 AM

    If any of these senior retirees are collecting Social Security or taking advantage of any reimbursements, subsidies, or coverage from Medicare, they should be in Washington kissing Obama’s ring.

    But instead, they’re going to let racism and greed get in their way.

  65. bleedburgandyandgold says: Aug 20, 2013 11:17 AM

    Get off my lawn!

  66. dt58 says: Aug 20, 2013 11:17 AM

    How dare they have principles and stand up for what they believe…where do they get off? They should just be quiet and do what they are told…like Rosa Parks?

  67. gergie1957 says: Aug 20, 2013 11:18 AM

    They got more attention this way than if they would have been there. well played old guys.

  68. respectgsh says: Aug 20, 2013 11:18 AM

    @randy2054

    You know someone doesn’t have to be a “redneck” in order to disagree with the president or even dislike his policies and actions in general. If I were one of these guys I’d go but, I’m not and neither are you. So let them say what they will. It is a free country and they didn’t really say anything that political anyway.
    Does anyone know if the ’73 team went to the White House?

  69. kgun80 says: Aug 20, 2013 11:18 AM

    It’s disrespectful to the office. That’s what always gets me about these people who disagree with the Presidents politics. That’s fine it’s their right to disagree its their right to not go to the White house, but they are disrespecting the position. Then they give no explanation about why they disagree? Just my mamma told me and… I think I would pass out if one of these guys stated a policy or specific reason. If they even articulated a position but they don’t! Even Birk a Harvard grad didn’t give reasons for not attending. Just that he disagreed with him on certain positions.
    Truthfully I think these guys are full of it! Give a reason articulate a position and you may get some respect but just like the rest of the idiots who watch certain channels.. They have no viable reason or explanation just… I don’t like that Obama fella.

    Get over it!

  70. asublimeday says: Aug 20, 2013 11:18 AM

    No way, a bunch of old white dudes are racist? Crazy.

  71. oreo51 says: Aug 20, 2013 11:18 AM

    Good for them. They stuck to their convictions. The Dems have long used sports as a political weapon. It is time to turn the tables on them for all of the spying on Americans, IRS double dealing, and poor policies in the Middle East that ate getting many killed and have been covered up.

  72. danfitzger says: Aug 20, 2013 11:18 AM

    “Liberal players did this same thing when President George W. Bush was in the White House, and the media labeled those players as “heroes” and “courageous” for standing up for their political beliefs.”

    I honestly don’t remember this, but if anyone did I think they’re just as petty and selfish. These trips are about America honoring an accomplishment by a team. If individual players can’t get over their own issues to be recognized as part of a team, that makes me think less of them, not whoever the president happens to be at the time.

  73. shackdelrio says: Aug 20, 2013 11:19 AM

    These guys clearly have not heard of YOLO.

  74. somekat says: Aug 20, 2013 11:20 AM

    The President, with everything going on right now, fresh back from his 4th vacation of the year, has nothing better to do but honor an NFL team from 40 years ago? Really?

  75. metalhead65 says: Aug 20, 2013 11:20 AM

    as someone who hates the ’72 dolphins it pains me to say this but good for them! way to stand up for your beliefs and not go along with a pr move for worst administration in history. he makes Jimmy Carter look like a good president. why should they smile and act all happy if they feel the way they do? why is this president honoring this team for anyway? oh right great opportunity for a photo op for him giving some kind of reward for a team that played 40 years ago when sports teams did not go to the white house.

  76. kane337 says: Aug 20, 2013 11:20 AM

    Bravo to these three guys for not supporting this White House PR stunt.

  77. mackcarrington says: Aug 20, 2013 11:21 AM

    These are 3 former players who actually watch the news about what is going on in this country. These men would be hypocrites to smile and shake the presidents hand if they don’t like him or agree with his direction. It’s not like Al Davis getting the Lombardi trophy from Pete Rozelle. They have already been honored for their achievement. This is just empty PR for the White House.

  78. nyfootballgiants says: Aug 20, 2013 11:21 AM

    They had their undefeated season 41 years ago. To have it now, is anticlimactic, and is more of a PR stunt than anything else. (Why bother at this point, to be honest?)

    I can understand someone not wanting to be involved in such a PR stunt with a President that they do not share common interest with.

    This is not the same as going to see the President during the same year that you won your championship.

  79. metitometin says: Aug 20, 2013 11:21 AM

    What a bunch of bozos. This has nothing to do with politics. This is supposed to celebrate sports and they have undermined that completely and hung their teammates out to dry.

    By the way, the Pats did this team one better, going 18-0, after the bogus SPYGATE, so where is the celebration for them?

    I don’t have any respect for these guys, just another bunch of crazies who’ve been brainwashed and manipulated by the conservative media, FOX Noise, Hannity and the like.

  80. 4greatestvikingever says: Aug 20, 2013 11:21 AM

    Good.

  81. Norseman says: Aug 20, 2013 11:22 AM

    A bunch of losers who think its more important to be partisan than American. This is a traditional, although belated, event every championship team has every year. It’s not a political endorsement.

    An undefeated season doesn’t hide the fact you’re losers.

  82. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Aug 20, 2013 11:22 AM

    Only three?

  83. nyyjetsknicks says: Aug 20, 2013 11:22 AM

    I wonder what would have happen if future President Hillary Clinton invited them?

  84. onlythebest36 says: Aug 20, 2013 11:22 AM

    Have respect for the office of the Presidency of the United State even if you don’t respect the person occupying it.

  85. dublindemonszfl says: Aug 20, 2013 11:23 AM

    The White House isn’t going to set politics a side, if they choose to stay home that is their choice. Isn’t this still a free country. Leave them a lone, less $$ spent at the party.

    This is a none story and I want my 4 minutes back.

  86. henry53 says: Aug 20, 2013 11:24 AM

    “Grumpy, poorly informed, tea-drinking old men….”

    ….Said the young tool as the last of his civil liberties was flushed down he toilet by the Great and Powerful Obama administration.
    I applaud these men for having the courage to stand up for what they believe in. Something that doesn’t happen very often now.

  87. thetooloftools says: Aug 20, 2013 11:25 AM

    “If three players can’t put politics aside for long enough to enjoy that recognition, that’s their problem.” – this statement nails it on the head.

  88. edenprairieballer says: Aug 20, 2013 11:26 AM

    Good for them. I would do the exact same thing.

  89. jfrogo says: Aug 20, 2013 11:26 AM

    Are you serious? These guys get ripped for exercising their political opinions? What happened to this country? Get a grip!!

  90. stevietimmy says: Aug 20, 2013 11:27 AM

    “dryzzt23 says:
    Aug 20, 2013 11:02 AM
    1st amendment anyone? NO ONE should rip these guys for choosing to not be in the company of a person that they do not agree with.”
    ————————————————

    Why do so many people have difficulty in understanding what the First Amendment guarantees?

    If these three ended up in a jail somewhere, without due process, because of what they said then yes, it would seem that their First Amendment rights have been violated.

    It does NOT however absolve you from public scrutiny or even sanctions by your employer. Because, you see… we too have First Amendment rights and can use that right to call someone an idiot for what comes out of their pie hole.

  91. tedmurph says: Aug 20, 2013 11:27 AM

    grogansheroes says:Aug 20, 2013 11:06 AM

    When Tim Thomas did this, he was run out of town on a rail
    ———————————————————-

    BS. Tim Thomas quit the Bruins. Although Thomas, a huge Glenn Beck fan(that says it all), was unpopular with his teamates for not going to the White House, it was his decision to take a year off.

  92. jojopuppyfish says: Aug 20, 2013 11:27 AM

    Too bad for them.
    I was given a special tour of the white house about 15 years ago and to be in the Oval office is something special……

  93. eatitfanboy says: Aug 20, 2013 11:27 AM

    Why should the players put politics aside? The White House certainly isn’t. Why do you suppose they host these things? Do you think Barack Obama or anyone in his administration cares the tiniest bit about the 72 dolphins or could even pick any of them out of a lineup?

    These are calculated photo ops concocted to take the edge off of an increasingly negative public image of the President. This one is especially glaring because the timing has no relevance whatsoever for the team and comes at a time when Obama’s approval ratings are lower than ever.

    It may seem like a stretch to think this will help much, but do you honestly think they would waste time on something like this if they didn’t feel there was some benefit to be had?

    This is a political exercise. It’s not fair to ask the players to be the only ones putting politics aside.

  94. 12strikes says: Aug 20, 2013 11:28 AM

    Maybe BHO can have ACORN create new Bob Kuechenberg, Jim Langer and Manny Fernandez .

    BTW….
    @asublimeday
    The only racist are the ones that think disagreeing with BHO is based off race and not ideology.

  95. macfunden says: Aug 20, 2013 11:29 AM

    Who?

  96. briggsweatbird says: Aug 20, 2013 11:31 AM

    “If three players can’t put politics aside for long enough to enjoy that recognition, that’s their problem.”

    And if you can’t respect THEIR choice, MDS, perhaps that is YOUR problem.

  97. joetoronto says: Aug 20, 2013 11:31 AM

    United we stand, divided we fall.

    The USA is as divided as its ever been, what a damn shame.

  98. bengalsucker says: Aug 20, 2013 11:32 AM

    It’s ok for a lib to stand up to an invite from a Repub president and they’re considered role models for standing up for their political beliefs. But if a repub refuses an invite from a lib president (especially Obama), he’s a racist and should be bad mouthed by the media. I could save 100 kids from a burning school building and I’d refuse an invite from this president. I don’t care to shake hands and act like I enjoy being in the presence of this clown. I don’t want any awards from him. He has racially divided this country more than any recent president. He preaches equality yet stands up for punk kids who attack and try to kill a man and then get shot for their actions. I want nothing from a man like that.

  99. realfootballfan says: Aug 20, 2013 11:32 AM

    And no one will notice, especially the President.

  100. woodyg says: Aug 20, 2013 11:33 AM

    Three clowns who haven’t mattered in life since 1972. Why should it change now?

  101. northstarnic says: Aug 20, 2013 11:33 AM

    They’re a bunch of old timers from Florida. What did you expect?

  102. bigdaddystyle says: Aug 20, 2013 11:35 AM

    They weren’t INVITED for political reasons, they were invited to honor their accomplishment as Americans. Something Presidents have been doing for a long long time.

    Everyone has an opinion these days, but no one honors the right to have a differing one anymore. No wonder nothing gets done.

  103. peytonwantsaflag says: Aug 20, 2013 11:35 AM

    so, obama is only having them for political reasons

  104. joepescisballs says: Aug 20, 2013 11:35 AM

    Clown conservatives being clowns.

    And yeah, they have every right not to go. Just as thinking people have every right to mock them for it.

  105. pack15forever says: Aug 20, 2013 11:37 AM

    I’m not an Obama fan but I wonder how many players whose teams were invited to the White House and who did not agree with the president at the time showed up for the event.

  106. janvanflac says: Aug 20, 2013 11:37 AM

    The irony is, that thanks to Obamacare their insurers can’t drop them to get out of paying for what are clearly signs of traumatic brain injury.

  107. humpofdc says: Aug 20, 2013 11:37 AM

    The President is trying to correct a wrong after all these years. It was a Republican, President Nixon, who was too busy with Watergate to acknowledge these guys. Some gratitude…..

  108. leftyman says: Aug 20, 2013 11:42 AM

    Do you really think it matters, Eddie?

  109. iluvbears says: Aug 20, 2013 11:44 AM

    Mr. Langer is an embarrassment to Minnesota. Those “problems with moral compass issues” he mentions are primarily being caused by the party that he supports. Get a clue, Jim!

  110. plowking20 says: Aug 20, 2013 11:49 AM

    Glad to see he has time to honor a team from 30 years ago

  111. fitnessguy12 says: Aug 20, 2013 11:49 AM

    Good for those players, Obama sucks big time!!

  112. nisbo says: Aug 20, 2013 11:50 AM

    WOW! For all those that say these are 3 insignificant grumpy old men… Look at all the comments.

    I respect and agree with their decision. I wouldn’t go if invited. Reasoning is simple. Among other things, a reduction in white house dinner party funds, and vacation funds, would result in returned jobs that were taken away by sequester. Seriously, look at the numbers. The white house is closed to the public at the moment, and could be re-opened, probably for the cost of this lovely dinner party… I would not want to be a part of that elitist nonsense. I don’t want to be served the steak that is costing someone their job. Politics and policy aside, it’s the short sited and elitist financial actions (NOT policy) that make me sick.

    I’m with the 3 grumpy old men 100%, along with 1/2 the nation.

  113. sokguymi says: Aug 20, 2013 11:50 AM

    It beats starting a war as a distraction…

    … the prez already knew they weren’t coming from listening to their phone calls and reading their emails.

  114. msclemons67 says: Aug 20, 2013 11:53 AM

    Three old, white guys from the South don’t want to meet a black president?

    This isn’t news. It’s daily life in the South.

  115. truthb3t0ld says: Aug 20, 2013 11:53 AM

    A number of you posting this “good for them, I wouldn’t go either” nonsense are full of it.

  116. blueagle78 says: Aug 20, 2013 11:54 AM

    Let’s call it what it is. Imagine Mercury Morris, Paul Warfield and Larry Little not showing up at the White House when Bush was giving the same accolades. All YOU Obama haters would feel the world came to an end. So, let’s not FOOL yourselves. PUN INTENDED!!!

  117. njoberg says: Aug 20, 2013 11:57 AM

    Stated well by all 3 & all you libs please read up on actually where Obama is taking this country, quit listening to people like chuck Todd & al sharpton

  118. sportnorcal says: Aug 20, 2013 11:57 AM

    Could this team be any more unlikable??
    Incredible undefeated season, could be jovial ambassadors of the game and lightheartedly enjoy the spotlight surrounding it.

    Instead they are jerks, treat others like crap and generally rub people the wrong way.

    I didnt vote for Obama. Not much of a fan of his politicking either … but he is the damn POTUS, respect the office you imbeciles and stop trying so hard to make everything about yourselves.

  119. All-American Voltron says: Aug 20, 2013 11:58 AM

    Thanks for giving me another reason to hate the ’72 Dolphins. Last I checked, accepting a White House congratulations doesn’t mean an endorsement of anything.

  120. racerx1225 says: Aug 20, 2013 11:58 AM

    Worst President in history by far.

  121. wallacejay says: Aug 20, 2013 11:58 AM

    There are people in the military, fighting for & dying for this country that have not even gotten the opportunity to meet a President, yet these 3 stooges turn it down because they have different politics? They should be honored to finally get their shot since none of the other Presidents (some of which they probably supported without question) gave a crap about them.

  122. channelguy says: Aug 20, 2013 11:58 AM

    People ripping the old Dolphins and saying it’s not a political event need to wake up. OF COURSE it’s a political event. If this was last year’s Super Bowl winner, it wouldn’t be, because both Democrat and GOP Presidents have been inviting winning teams to the White House for decades. But this was a team from over FORTY years ago, and the ONLY purpose of doing this now is to create a phony, manufactured event to add some hap-hap-HAPPY news into the news cycle.

  123. racerx1225 says: Aug 20, 2013 11:59 AM

    none of those players would be his son. Well maybe Mercury Morris. lol

  124. qdog112 says: Aug 20, 2013 12:00 PM

    Pathetic that they made it personal. Nobody in the past agreed 100% with any of the presidents. Make up all the pretext you want.

    Everybody knows the deal. You clowns who agree with them, also have a problem taking directions from a supervisor at work, who happens to be black.

  125. pw1265 says: Aug 20, 2013 12:00 PM

    They are the classic example of whats wrong with this country…..too stupid to just suck it up and enjoy a white house experience no matter who is president. truly pathethic on their part

  126. truthb3t0ld says: Aug 20, 2013 12:02 PM

    bengalsucker | Aug 20, 2013, 11:32 AM EDT
    It’s ok for a lib to stand up to an invite from a Repub president and they’re considered role models for standing up for their political beliefs. But if a repub refuses an invite from a lib president (especially Obama), he’s a racist and should be bad mouthed by the media. I could save 100 kids from a burning school building and I’d refuse an invite from this president. I don’t care to shake hands and act like I enjoy being in the presence of this clown. I don’t want any awards from him. He has racially divided this country more than any recent president. He preaches equality yet stands up for punk kids who attack and try to kill a man and then get shot for their actions. I want nothing from a man like that.
    __________________________________________
    Larry Bird (1984), Michael Jordan (1991), and James Harrison (2006), all snubbed invites from a republican President. All were criticized for it. Regardless of who is in office it’s in poor taste to snub POTUS.

  127. dryzzt23 says: Aug 20, 2013 12:03 PM

    When I said “NO ONE” I meant the libtard media. That is b/c the media reports – what THEY want you to know – and if you provide evidence that a liberal player was praised for doing what these 3 ‘Phins greats are doing, then they’d shout you down and destroy you b/c they would never allow an opposing viewpoint to be heard.
    Yes I am an staunch proponent of the 1st amendment. But what I meant was that the liberal media is writing stories in such a way as to get their reader to view these 3 men in a negative light. That is NOT the role of the press.

  128. kevinb73 says: Aug 20, 2013 12:04 PM

    Not going doesn’t make you look like men of conviction. It makes you look petty and small.

    It’s not like he was inviting them to a gay rights, pro-abortion rally, or an Obamacare townhall.

    Making an issue out of no issue makes it an issue and it weakens the position of those who oppose the president’s politics by making them look just as petty as these men look.

    I’m sure the president is doing what in his heart is the right thing whether we think so or not, so why not meet with him and talk to him when you have an open invite. None of us have that opportunity. You blew it guys.

  129. giantssb42champs says: Aug 20, 2013 12:04 PM

    Fins tampered to get Shula and would not likely have gone undefeated without him setting the roster and his coaching decisions. Their undefeated season is tainted as a result.
    ————————
    Incredibly ironic this is coming from a Pats fan.

  130. 11inthebox says: Aug 20, 2013 12:08 PM

    @ dt58 who says:

    How dare they have principles and stand up for what they believe…where do they get off? They should just be quiet and do what they are told…like Rosa Parks?
    ————————
    Rosa Parks?
    Really?

  131. thefhaloanguy says: Aug 20, 2013 12:08 PM

    What’s the matter with taking an ethical stand against an administration that tramples our constitution?? The double standard of libs is on display. When this happened with Bush then it was OK. Now with someone as corrupt as obozo it’s no OK. Liberalism is a mental disorder.

  132. baily67 says: Aug 20, 2013 12:08 PM

    there might be no I in TEAM but there is a ME!

  133. tedmurph says: Aug 20, 2013 12:14 PM

    racerx1225 says:Aug 20, 2013 11:58 AM

    Worst President in history by far, left office Jan 20, 2009.

    Fixed it for ya.

  134. gammynomnom says: Aug 20, 2013 12:15 PM

    I don’t get it. With profit sharing, the NFL is the most socialist of all sports.

  135. Great Caesar's Ghost says: Aug 20, 2013 12:15 PM

    Believe it or not, you can shake hands and accept congratulations from people who have different political opinions. Some people just like politics as soap opera.

  136. spitsfire says: Aug 20, 2013 12:18 PM

    If anything this will just garner more support for the President.

  137. torturedraiderfan says: Aug 20, 2013 12:20 PM

    Before you single out these guys as “Grumpy Old Men” because they refused to meet with Obama, remember, Matt Birk didn’t go, James Harrison didn’t go, Tim Thomas (Boston Bruins) didn’t go and Michael Jordan didn’t go in 1991 when Bush was President. Sometimes sticking to your principals is more important than being a phony.

  138. mallet22 says: Aug 20, 2013 12:23 PM

    Lame…..You don’t have to respect the man in office but you should at least respect the office.

  139. beach305 says: Aug 20, 2013 12:23 PM

    When players do this it misses the point. This is not to honor the sitting president and his policies. This is to honor you and your team accomplishments.

    I don’t know any instance that someone has said, “since so and so team went to the white house to be honored for their accomplishment, that means that they agree with the current administrations positions.”

    P.S. I’m a Republican

  140. cowboylover says: Aug 20, 2013 12:26 PM

    The comments were interesting until mistersmith22 opined:
    “If any of these senior retirees are collecting Social Security or taking advantage of any reimbursements, subsidies, or coverage from Medicare, they should be in Washington kissing Obama’s ring.

    But instead, they’re going to let racism and greed get in their way.”

    Listen up–no one has any choice in taking part in the above-mentioned social programs–that was decided for us long before Obama. Also, enough with the racism charges. It’s so phony. Why can’t you simply not like the president’s policies? It’s a hollow argument, thrown around by morons and bullies and bigots.

  141. mccontrary says: Aug 20, 2013 12:27 PM

    They should just take a chill pill and show up. It’s not a political meeting, but a social one to honor their singular achievement. They should check their weighty political baggage at the White House door and celebrate with their teammates.

  142. kerryc21realty says: Aug 20, 2013 12:27 PM

    Well Michael David Smith, I think these guys did the right thing, Obama has taken this country in a direction that has destroyed everything we stand for, he has serious character flaws and his past associations are proof of that. Good for these 3 guys

  143. odessabucs says: Aug 20, 2013 12:27 PM

    These three guys have something the President sorely lacks, principals and honesty.

  144. seansds3d says: Aug 20, 2013 12:29 PM

    Not a surprise that a few old white men wouldn’t want to go… but they won’t be missed… everyone will just assume they’re dead. LOL!

  145. kerryc21realty says: Aug 20, 2013 12:30 PM

    thefhaloanguy says: Aug 20, 2013 12:08 PM

    What’s the matter with taking an ethical stand against an administration that tramples our constitution?? The double standard of libs is on display. When this happened with Bush then it was OK. Now with someone as corrupt as obozo it’s no OK. Liberalism is a mental disorder

    WELL SAID !!!!!!!!

  146. 1phd says: Aug 20, 2013 12:31 PM

    Larry, Moe and Kuechenberg…

  147. skleech22 says: Aug 20, 2013 12:31 PM

    Nice try Harrison, the only thing tainted is all the Patriots rings,from Tuck Rule to your cameras rolling! Can you say asterisks by all 3! Sheeeeesh. Silly cheater!

  148. jedicurt says: Aug 20, 2013 12:33 PM

    I am just so glad that everything with the country is in such perfect working order that our President had nothing better to do with his time than commemorate an event that took place 40 years ago.

  149. ishudbgm says: Aug 20, 2013 12:36 PM

    If you apply the principle of the 3 players to everything in life, they would never go anywhere or do anything…they may have not even played football because a guy on this team likes a different congressman or brand of car. I’m all for freedom of speech but you cannot cut off life and other people because they disagree with you. What if the local gas station won’t sell you gas because you drive a gas guzzler and they do not like you hogging all the gas?!?

    Another example of someone using free speech at the wrong time, stay classy tunnel-vision old men!!!! Hope the new fins will not behave this way when we win the SuperBowl in the next 5 years!!! (freedom of speech and my opinion, no thumbs down please)

  150. lightningbuggs says: Aug 20, 2013 12:36 PM

    That’s just 3 less rounds of golf for the most ineffective commander in chief of our lifetimes.

    Good for them!

  151. rgtdnot3 says: Aug 20, 2013 12:41 PM

    Free country. But this was strictly a ceremonial honor for the benefit of the team.

    I’m sure the White House probably appreciated putting out three less early bird specials.

    I guess this stuff seemed to have happened in the 60’s/Vietnam era also.

  152. klutch14u says: Aug 20, 2013 12:46 PM

    I get respecting the office of the president BUT the president himself has zero respect for it. Isn’t this guy running out of celebrities to entertain at the white house? I guess so, he’s down to the 72 Dolphins. Guess he’ll just have to take another vacation to a foreign land and spend 100’s of millions to do it.

  153. rc33 says: Aug 20, 2013 12:47 PM

    skleech22 says: Aug 20, 2013 12:31 PM

    Nice try Harrison, the only thing tainted is all the Patriots rings,from Tuck Rule to your cameras rolling! Can you say asterisks by all 3! Sheeeeesh. Silly cheater!
    ———————————
    If only we had any regard for the thoughts of skleech.

  154. myopinionisrighterthanyours says: Aug 20, 2013 12:52 PM

    Obama is rightly recognizing that the ’72 Dolphins were a great team. If three players can’t put politics aside for long enough to enjoy that recognition, that’s their problem.

    ————————————

    While this statement is correct, $5 says if there were a republican or tea partier in the white house, these 3 would be lauded as heroes.

  155. bushwoodcc says: Aug 20, 2013 12:52 PM

    Under most circumstances I would say that when invited to the White House to be honored, you go. But I think many people are forgetting something…the current administration has closed the White House to tours, so the people that pay for it cannot even visit it.

    I could not in good conscience go there for a party when a family taking a vacation in D.C. cannot go and see The People’s House. Nice that they can throw pointless parties, but can’t accomodate the taxpayers funding them.

    From the White House Web Site:
    Tours & Events
    Due to staffing reductions resulting from sequestration, we regret to inform you that WhiteHouse Tours will be canceled effective Saturday, March 9, 2013 until further notice. Unfortunately, we will not be able to reschedule affected tours.

 We very much regret having to take this action, particularly during the popular Spring touring season. Please check this webpage for updates regarding this situation, or contact the White House Visitors Office 24 Hour Hotline at (202) 456-7041.



    Sincerely,

    The White House Visitors Office

  156. bcgreg says: Aug 20, 2013 12:57 PM

    @ plowking20

    Nice math.

  157. dryzzt23 says: Aug 20, 2013 12:58 PM

    Principles…not “principALS”.
    This is what you get when liberals control the edumication system.

    “Honor the office of President…”
    Where was this sentiment when Reagan, Bush 41, and Bush 43 were in office?

  158. justwinbaby29 says: Aug 20, 2013 1:00 PM

    I’m a Republican and I’d go. Then again I’m for gay marriage and my favorite POTUS is JFK so I’ll just be called a RINO like the guy I’m supporting in 2016 Gov. Chris Christie!

  159. wkdblc52 says: Aug 20, 2013 1:01 PM

    To hell with these three right wing whiners ! Apparently they have forgotten that the preisdent at that time was Tricky Dick Nixon and he didn’t give them their trip to the White House because they beat the Skins and was going over the stolen tapes of Watergate !

    Talk about irony, huh ! And yeah, Tricky Dick was a right winger

  160. losangelesravens says: Aug 20, 2013 1:03 PM

    I see no problem with their stance. Although I voted for Obama and generally approve of his administration (with some very poignant exceptions), in their situation I would never visit the White House of a president I didn’t like. I couldn’t sit in the same room with the likes of George W. Bush and smile like I didn’t consider him a war criminal.

    If that’s how they feel about the current president, that’s well within their rights. More power to them honestly. There’s no need to make fun of them really. Imagine putting yourself in that situation with a president you REALLY didn’t agree with and consider a violator of our Constitution.

  161. raymondtx says: Aug 20, 2013 1:03 PM

    Can the ’72 Dolphins just go away?

  162. awdlmd says: Aug 20, 2013 1:07 PM

    Elderly white guys who prefer Republicans. That is shocking.

  163. godofwine330 says: Aug 20, 2013 1:08 PM

    “If three players can’t put politics aside for long enough to enjoy that recognition, that’s their problem.”

    I hated nearly everything that GW Bush stood for, but if he would have awarded me a medal I would have been there. I had to go to war because of him, and luckily I came back okay, but still I would have been happy to be involved in a ceremony with the current president. The 3 grumpy old men don’t, that’s their problem. You shaking his hand doesn’t mean that you support everything he supports.

  164. pzimm7778 says: Aug 20, 2013 1:09 PM

    I don’t care whether they go to the White House or not. But the next time someone is a legit threat to go unbeaten I hope they all in unison go one place….away!

  165. eldarknight says: Aug 20, 2013 1:11 PM

    You have to admire someone who will stand by their principals. Good for them.

  166. flmike says: Aug 20, 2013 1:12 PM

    For all you arm chain parliamentarians…
    The President of the United States has but one job, to sign or not sign legislation into law. If you have an issue with the direction OUR nation is going is, you should really address your grievances to the GOPhuckers running the House of Representatives, instead of rebuilding our infrastructure they’re to busy regulating your wife’s vagina, instead of educating our kids, they’re destroying our environment, what happened to all those jobs Boehner promised, he must have forgotten about them in one of his drunken stupors. And to all those knocking Obama for golfing or vacations, go back and check the data, Dumbya took more vacation days than any sitting President, ever…including Obama, but thats okay Cheney didn’t need him meddling in the nations affairs anyway.

  167. pleazenufalready says: Aug 20, 2013 1:14 PM

    ….and, yet, would they have gone in 1973, had Nixon invited them? …..where’s their moral compass point at regarding him?

  168. 52lightsxout52 says: Aug 20, 2013 1:19 PM

    “…Honor the office of the President…”

    Lol, when the President no longer honors the office, (whichever political stripe, doesn’t matter), then how can we be expected to???

    He is the one setting the example, after all…

  169. bengalsucker says: Aug 20, 2013 1:22 PM

    odessabucs says:
    Aug 20, 2013 12:27 PM
    These three guys have something the President sorely lacks, principals and honesty.

    —————-

    I almost spit my drink everywhere when I read this. Are you dillusional? Principals?! Honesty?! Since when has this POTUS had that? Pffft that’s the biggest load of dung I’ve read all day. He has appointed folks like Eric Holder who has lied over and over again while in office and Obama refuses to do a thing about it. And you call him honest? You’re out of your mind.

  170. raidadon says: Aug 20, 2013 1:23 PM

    Sour grapes are still in season?

  171. pilonflats says: Aug 20, 2013 1:23 PM

    I BLAME BUSH!

  172. gobigblue825 says: Aug 20, 2013 1:23 PM

    This is an interesting place to hear such political vitriol as opposed to the CNBC’s and Fox News of the world. I have a question for the predominantly liberal group that has taken this opportunity to share with the sporting world their views. It’s a simple question and one I consistently have a hard time getting a legitimate answer for. The current administration has been in the White House for a little over four and a half years. Without blaming anyone else, or telling me how stupid I am to ask such a question, please give me three examples of how this country is better off than it was Jan 19th, 2009. And before you blame anything on republicans, please note that many previous democratic presidents have managed to cross party lines in order to accomplish what they felt was in the best interest of the country.

  173. flexx91 says: Aug 20, 2013 1:25 PM

    Yeah, we all know there are “other” reasons why some on this forum feel this way along with the three members of the ’72 Dolphins.

  174. cfballfan1 says: Aug 20, 2013 1:25 PM

    Congratulations to these three players for standing on principal regardless of those who make it “their problem”.

  175. lurkerkerker says: Aug 20, 2013 1:27 PM

    The president doesn’t run the country, we run ourselves. This is the foundation of a free people – that a country is not its government. The office of the president deserves no more respect than any other job, and the man who occupies that job deserves no more respect than the many who have come before him. In fact, I would say that the office and whoever holds it deserve ridicule and dirision until the politicians who achieve that office go and get a real job like the rest of us.

  176. burnsxpress says: Aug 20, 2013 1:29 PM

    At least there are three former players who don’t support entitlement programs. Obama as done more damage to the issues of African Americans than any other President in American History

  177. fryeways says: Aug 20, 2013 1:30 PM

    It’s a shame they think there is any difference between Obama and any other president in recent years.

    We’ve had maybe two effective presidents since FDR: Reagan and Clinton.

  178. darkneptune73 says: Aug 20, 2013 1:30 PM

    They probably hate ObamaCare.

  179. Joemontanaflacco says: Aug 20, 2013 1:33 PM

    WHAT policies don’t they support? They probably can’t name a single one. It’s a cop-out to let these old grouches simply say they disagree with Obama. Stay home, wimps. Washington is too tough for you crybabies.

  180. wnstonchill says: Aug 20, 2013 1:38 PM

    GOD bless these 3 men!!! Where are the rest of the people in this country who are willing to take a stand and show some courage like these guys??

  181. vbbills says: Aug 20, 2013 1:39 PM

    I fear for the Republic. Almost everyone has an “expert” opinion without an ounce of appreciation for the complexities of the office. Most of these opinions are formed in a vacuum of liberal or conservative bias and equally affect either party in the WH.

    I love football because we get to celebrate triumph and forget tragedy for a short period of time. So EVERYONE looking to use football as a bridge to feign insight, please stop.

  182. markeyh says: Aug 20, 2013 1:41 PM

    I am so sick of these tick for tack excuses some folks lean on. It’s like childish games that never end and lives are ruined because people fail to do their jobs because of some ideology….

    Right is right and wrong is wrong and these guys are WRONG!

    I nice event for the TEAM is tarnished by old fools!

  183. kevpft says: Aug 20, 2013 1:42 PM

    Like that goofball on the Ravens who stayed home, these guys are just cowards. They talk a good game about ‘principle’, but would rather hide than go talk to the man they’re so concerned about. It’s lazy, and being lazy is easier.

    It’s also selfish. I hated GW Bush as President – not as a person, but for his war policies – but if I was on a team that was visiting his White House, I would have gone, out of respect for the office and respect for the team. Guys like this would rather make the whole team look bad than set aside their egos for a moment.

    Come on, SOMEBODY go undefeated already, and put these guys out of the spotlight for good.

  184. flmike says: Aug 20, 2013 1:45 PM

    @gobigblue825:
    I wish I could but the GOPhuckers in both houses have obstructed anything positive in order to make Obama a one term President (how’d that work out for them), and I fear they will do the same when Hillary takes the oath in Jan of 2017. What we have witnessed is the most divided government since FDR. The most basic property of a democracy is compromise, thats how things get accomplished in a multiparty system, unfortunately, the GOP has been hijacked by a group who has no idea about parliamentary procedure or how negotiation works. You can not just oppose everything without having a viable alternative, which the GOP has proven not to have.

  185. skittlesareyum says: Aug 20, 2013 1:47 PM

    Sometimes the comments on this site make me wonder how many readers are also avid fans of FreeRepublic…

  186. awdlmd says: Aug 20, 2013 1:50 PM

    They should get over themselves. There was no competition 100 years ago when they played. They wouldn’t be able to walk on in the SEC today.

  187. hawksfan3737 says: Aug 20, 2013 1:50 PM

    If Obama was against same-sex marriage and a few players boycotted, they’d be called heroes! But because someone just doesn’t want to be a hypocrite by accepting a trip or praise from someone they disagree with, they’re labeled an idiot? Grow up people! It’s called Free Speech and if people are gonna pass up a trip to see the President, that’s on them, it’s none of your buiness and not your place to judge them.

  188. bucrightoff says: Aug 20, 2013 1:52 PM

    I love reading liberals and conservatives act like they’re superior, oblivious to the fact they both get used and abused by the two parties in power. Newsflash: neither party cares about you, they care about getting re-elected. They manipulate you through emotion and you fall for it. And yet you claim the other side is idiots when in fact you’re being led around like a puppet yourself.

  189. ketchupaholic says: Aug 20, 2013 1:52 PM

    Hats off to them for standing on their principals. S0 many in the popular culture today sell their soul for publicity. Problem is, this President we have now, who claimed to be the great uniter, is now the “GREAT DIVIDER!” He has become one of the elite, the top 1% that he despised. Seems like all his golf trips, million dollar vacations at taxpayers expense have gotten to him as well.

    So why would they want to be seen with the worst President in history, hands-down. Even the idiots who will say Bush, can’t even support how bad Obama has done with the economy along with numerous other scandals. Where are the anti-war protesters now?

  190. nickhead12 says: Aug 20, 2013 1:55 PM

    Good

  191. culturalelitist says: Aug 20, 2013 1:56 PM

    If this visit occurred during the Bush administration, and a different trio of ’72 Dolphins chose to stay away, due to political differences with that White House, Langer, Kuechenberg and Fernandez would be completely understanding. No, I’m pretty sure they would not be.

  192. nunpuncher says: Aug 20, 2013 2:00 PM

    The GOP & these 3 conservative codgers are like spoiled bratty children that refuse to eat anything but chicken fingers.

  193. skinsfanwill says: Aug 20, 2013 2:01 PM

    Funny thing is you see Democrats and Republicans enjoy drinks together all the time. They are all buddies playing on the emotions of fools with their politics. The electoral college exists because they thought the average American white person was too dumb to make a wise decision on their own.

    P.S. – It’s funny how the guy who got us in the damn mess isn’t even mentioned any more. These disrespectful old geezers need to get a life. They are the problem in this country.

  194. painsyndicate says: Aug 20, 2013 2:05 PM

    Kuechenberg, Langer and Fernandez are now my three favorite Dolphin players of all time right after Danny Marino.

  195. bsizemore68 says: Aug 20, 2013 2:14 PM

    I think that the 3 players had there place in sports history because of coach Shula, and I think he deserve more from them, he is no bleeding heart liberal, however he will be at the White House today, and the owner of the Dolphins is helping with air fare for the former players who may need help with, the owner you know, the one who supported Mitt at his home. The hate on this blog should tell you all you need to know. Bill

  196. lanman11 says: Aug 20, 2013 2:15 PM

    - The 1972 Dolphins, the NFL’s only undefeated Super Bowl Champ, faced the second easiest regular season schedule EVER on their way to the playoffs (.357). They faced only two teams who ended over .500 and nine teams who ended under .500.

    – The easiest regular season schedule ever faced by a Super Bowl Champ belongs to the 1970 Colts. The cumulative winning percentage of their opponents was .352, they faced three teams who ended over .500 and eleven teams who ended under .500.

    Both teams were coached by Don Shula. Sometimes you just get lucky.

  197. smackingfools says: Aug 20, 2013 2:19 PM

    Good for them. The Obama administration doesn’t handle anything ethical. Murdering innocent people and invading countries for their resources isn’t anything I would want to be a part of either. Anybody who supports this government is just simply not informed on what’s really happening in the world.

  198. nomesayin says: Aug 20, 2013 2:21 PM

    An undefeated season in the NFL is quite a feat. However, Pres. Obama (not to be outdone) has managed to spend more money in his FIRST TERM than every other president from George Washington to George W. Bush combined.
    COMBINED.
    One would be hard-pressed to choose one of these feats as being more difficult than the other. Granted, both demonstrate an incredible amount of willpower and determination.

  199. justwinbaby29 says: Aug 20, 2013 2:24 PM

    Since FDR – I’d say Eisenhower, Kennedy, Reagan and Clinton have been “good” Presidents.

  200. danoj14 says: Aug 20, 2013 2:25 PM

    dryzzt23 says:
    Aug 20, 2013 11:02 AM

    Liberal players did this same thing when President George W. Bush was in the White House, and the media labeled those players as “heroes” and “courageous” for standing up for their political beliefs.

    ——————————————————

    Can you name a few? All I remember are Harrison, Birk, Hampton refusing to visit because of Obama.

  201. danoj14 says: Aug 20, 2013 2:27 PM

    smackingfools says:
    Aug 20, 2013 2:19 PM
    Good for them. The Obama administration doesn’t handle anything ethical. Murdering innocent people and invading countries for their resources isn’t anything I would want to be a part of either.

    ———————————————————-

    So….what were Bush’s reasons for invading, murdering, etc…?

  202. drgreenstreak says: Aug 20, 2013 2:29 PM

    Only Obama ever did anything wrong. Ever! From Kenya. Smoking weed in Hawaii gets you a great job!

  203. bilbo1000 says: Aug 20, 2013 2:30 PM

    gobigblue825 says: Aug 20, 2013 1:23 PM

    Without blaming anyone else, or telling me how stupid I am to ask such a question, please give me three examples of how this country is better off than it was Jan 19th, 2009.

    ——————————–

    OK:

    1) The US is no longer in financial freefall toward a depression as we were then because of the 2008 Wall Street financial meltdown.

    2) The stock market is almost twice as high (using the Dow).

    3) Fewer US soldiers are dying in the unnecessary Iraq war.

  204. lanman11 says: Aug 20, 2013 2:35 PM

    The 1972 Dolphins playoff results after the 2nd easiest regular season ever were”

    20-14 over the Browns in Miami (required a late 4th quarter TD to win)

    21-17 over the Steelers in Pittsburgh

    14-7 over the Redskins in the Super Bowl in Los Angeles

    They faced no team better than 8-6 in the regular season and no team they faced made the playoffs. They barely eeked out a win at 7-7 Minnesota having to score 10 points late in the 4th.

    Not exactly a juggernaut…..

  205. danoj14 says: Aug 20, 2013 2:42 PM

    gobigblue825 says:
    Aug 20, 2013 1:23 PM
    please give me three examples of how this country is better off than it was Jan 19th, 2009.

    ———————————————————–
    Just a few:

    1. The economy added more jobs during Obama’s first term than it did in his predecessor’s entire eight years in office.

    2. Domestic oil production has skyrocketed

    3. Stock Market has rebounded

  206. myopinionisrighterthanyours says: Aug 20, 2013 2:44 PM

    danoj14 says:
    Aug 20, 2013 2:27 PM

    So….what were Bush’s reasons for invading, murdering, etc…?

    ——————————————-

    Not to excuse W.’s ignorance, but it was brought upon by an intelligence failure from the previous administration.

  207. steeelfann says: Aug 20, 2013 2:46 PM

    Let’s see……why on earth would anyone not want to be around Obama:

    1. Obama who said Pennsylvanians “cling to their Bibles and guns”
    2. Obama who has not fired and/or prosecuted Eric Holder who has twice lied to Congress
    3. Obama who has called a benchwarmer basketball player who came out of the closet but never called the parents of the murdered men in Benghazi
    4. Obama who has sealed up all his college records
    5. Obama who traveled to Pakistan in 1981 but won’t say how he did this as a US Citizen since US Citizens were not allowed to travel to Pakistan at that time
    6. Obama who is supporting the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, ya know,the same connected group that was intricate to 911 massacre
    7. Obama who won’t fire the IRS people who have have misused the office to go after conservatives
    8. Obama who is attempting to gut the military of the US
    9. Obama who has attacked Christianity and voiced his hatred over Catholic Education even thought Catholic Education has been the best in the last century
    10. Obama who constantly stirs hatred and divides the country between rich and poor, Christians and Muslims, Black vs White vs Hispanic
    11. Obama who won’t say where he was for 7 hours while our citizens were attacked by Al Queda yet he and Hilliary blamed a video to save his re-election
    12. Obama who won’t say who gave the stand-down order to our military jets in Italy to rescue our attacked people in Bengahzi

    Yea, I can’t see why any citizen of this country would not go hang with the American hater. Nah.

  208. geniusesq says: Aug 20, 2013 2:48 PM

    As a former military member, I find it disgusting anytime some regular Joe decides to take stand by sitting on their rear end and disrespecting the President (aka Commander in Chief). We fight wars for the country regardless of who the President is. Our sons and daughters die because of policies they don’t agree with daily.

    It’s an honor to be recognized in this way, and to choose this as your platform is what I call a lack of patriotism regardless of politics.

  209. r502 says: Aug 20, 2013 2:48 PM

    These same three gents think George W. Bush was a great president whom did a great job.

  210. yipicya says: Aug 20, 2013 2:51 PM

    1. Not even remotely true. We have literally lost 9 million jobs since Obama took office. Unemployment participation rate is lowest since depression.

    2. Oil production on private land (which Obama/Government has nothing to do with) has skyrocketed, oil production on government lands has fallen to lows not seen since the 30s.

    3. So, big Wall Street/Banks have made out, I thought you guys said they were the bad guys?

  211. dstep24 says: Aug 20, 2013 2:52 PM

    I’d be careful to minimize this to “a disagreement on policies”. Many believe The president is single-handedly destroying our country’s moral fabric, all the while conducting scandal after scandal without a second thought or apology. That’s not someone I’d want to be in a room with either. I could be in a room with someone I disagree on policy with. But if they’re tapping my phones, starting wars without congressional approval, monitoring my internet activity, putting soldiers in harms way without sending aid, and then lying about all of it, with a smile, then I really have no need to stand and sweat in the sun for an hour just to be patronized by them.

  212. SparkyGump says: Aug 20, 2013 2:52 PM

    The 72 Dolphins should boycott their team because of those ugly azz uniforms it’s wearing now. The look like the generic football guy you see on ads for new tee vees.

  213. danoj14 says: Aug 20, 2013 2:54 PM

    myopinionisrighterthanyours says:
    Aug 20, 2013 2:44 PM

    Not to excuse W.’s ignorance, but it was brought upon by an intelligence failure from the previous administration.

    —————————————————–

    Bush’s own administration misrepresented the intelligence and the threat from Iraq. The SIC found that in 2008. Bush also blew off the information given to him in August 2001 about threats posed by Bin Laden.

  214. brucetrimble says: Aug 20, 2013 2:54 PM

    Memo to the 72 Miami Dolphins: your reward for winning the Super Bowl was receiving the trophy and then visiting the White House, which was delayed by the administration at the time but honored by the current administration. Other than pride, which many of your teammates have demonstrated over the decades, there is no reward for achieving a perfect season. Moving forward, it is time to focus on something other than your perfect season and trying to remain relevant because of it.

  215. dstep24 says: Aug 20, 2013 2:56 PM

    geniusesq says:
    Aug 20, 2013 2:48 PM
    As a former military member, I find it disgusting anytime some regular Joe decides to take stand by sitting on their rear end and disrespecting the President (aka Commander in Chief). We fight wars for the country regardless of who the President is. Our sons and daughters die because of policies they don’t agree with daily.

    It’s an honor to be recognized in this way, and to choose this as your platform is what I call a lack of patriotism regardless of politics.

    ______

    Oh shut up. I’m a military member as well. And there’s no honor in being recognized by a President who cares more about putting more of us in harms way, than he does about bringing us home. Who cares more about knowing what I’m doing on the internet and who I’m talking to, than about protecting the constitutions and standing for my rights as an individual without interfering in my daily life.

    You’re in the bag for the President. Good for you. But don’t blanket the rest of us with your “its an honor to be recognized” rhetoric, when there are many of us who see this administration for what it is – the most corrupt in our generation.

  216. briang123 says: Aug 20, 2013 3:00 PM

    It’s all Bush’s fault. You name it, Obama had nothing to do with it. It’s all because of Bush.

    There, now all you blind Democrats can go on without guilt.

  217. therealsmiley says: Aug 20, 2013 3:02 PM

    Who gives a hoot what these 3 idiots think? They’re old and so are their politics.

  218. nflpoker says: Aug 20, 2013 3:03 PM

    If they are not going to go, fine. That’s is totally up to them. Who said they have to go. They don’t have to answer to anybody. And of course, someone on here said that they are r@cists for not going. Please stop using that card. I can’t stand that card game. Actually, I would like to meet Obama. Why?? I would tell him how horrible he is as a president, then tell him to get lost. Regardless of color. Boy would that be great.

  219. ravens533 says: Aug 20, 2013 3:06 PM

    Those three are a microcosm of politics today. Nobody wants to give an inch or respect each others views. You three take your stand it is no different than the polarity of our leaders. And I felt the same way when Matt Birk did not go when the Ravens did this year.

  220. danoj14 says: Aug 20, 2013 3:06 PM

    briang123 says:
    Aug 20, 2013 3:00 PM
    It’s all Bush’s fault. You name it, Obama had nothing to do with it. It’s all because of Bush.

    There, now all you blind Democrats can go on without guilt.

    ———————————————————-

    Kind of like how these three are all blaming Obama…hmmm

  221. zerodime says: Aug 20, 2013 3:07 PM

    “President Obama is welcoming the undefeated 1972 Dolphins to the White House today, but three players won’t be there because they have a problem with the president.

    Former Dolphins guard Bob Kuechenberg, center Jim Langer and defensive tackle Manny Fernandez all told Dave Hyde of the Sun Sentinel that they don’t want to appear alongside a president whose policies they don’t support.”

    In tomorrows headlines, Huechenberg, Langer and Fernandez all receive IRS Audit letters.

  222. furnhole says: Aug 20, 2013 3:12 PM

    Good for them. As the President just returned from another multi-million dollar vacation, school children are still not able to visit the White House because of budget restraints. All this is is a political opportunity from your Campaigner In Chief. Best team ever vs. the worst President ever. Good for you guys.

  223. 1rockyracoon says: Aug 20, 2013 3:14 PM

    It’s about respecting the position, not the person. I would be honored to be invited to the White House no matter which political party was in charge. Remember, the President is a huge sports fan and was extending a courtesy to a team that missed out on the visit because of Nixon. Grumpy Old Men is the perfect name for this team. You went undefeated (14 game season) and won a Super Bowl–only 1. Now, it’s time to fade away.

  224. yipicya says: Aug 20, 2013 3:17 PM

    Ravens533 must have missed the entire Bush presidency, when attacking the President was not only encouraged but called Patriotic, now it’s just racist.

  225. scooter7777777 says: Aug 20, 2013 3:18 PM

    First of all, Mitt Romney would NEVER have done this, because he doesn’t give a damn about sports (unless he’s the Mass. Governor and gets free tickets).
    And thank God he didn’t get elected. Because if you thought Massachusetts was worse off during his tenure (and it is), this country would be bankrupt right now, because he and his Bain Capital buddies would have acquired every business and destroyed it, just as they have done years. Screw the hard-working, blue-collar people out of their life savings and 401Ks, and make 10s of millions off of it. The American way, in their eyes.

    Second, I felt the same way about Tim Thomas as I did about Birk, Harrison, Jordan, even Mark Chmura of the Packers (he didn’t go either, and was VERY vocal about it) – I thought they were idiots for putting themselves and their personal agendas/politics ahead of their teammates – those same teammates who HELPED them get this coveted, once-in-a-lifetime invitation to begin with.

    And I 100% agree with the sports vs. politics issue. They didn’t get invited because of the political beliefs, they got invited because of their significant athletic accomplishment as a TEAM. If anyone considers him/herself a good teammate, regardless of differences between them and other teammates, they surely can put their political differences aside for a few hours and enjoy their company at the White House.

    Better yet, I have advice for any pro athlete who gets the invite but doesn’t want to go. Don’t say anything about it, don’t tell anyone, just don’t show up. That way those on social media can’t rip you every waking moment of your life.

  226. grizzlybear54 says: Aug 20, 2013 3:21 PM

    Just get rid if this visiting WH garbage. Why do we hold athletes on such high pedestals? I don’t see Nobel laureates invited to the White House. Priorities in this country are getting screwed up.

  227. 8to80texansblog says: Aug 20, 2013 3:24 PM

    yipicya says:
    Aug 20, 2013 2:51 PM
    1. Not even remotely true. We have literally lost 9 million jobs since Obama took office. Unemployment participation rate is lowest since depression.

    __________________________

    That is a slanted statement that preys on uneducated minds…. and you know it.

  228. jimmysee says: Aug 20, 2013 3:25 PM

    Those guys are entitled to their views. Most of the country thinks they’re nuts.

  229. brownsfanincali says: Aug 20, 2013 3:27 PM

    ” Get off my lawn, you damn liberals !! ”
    – the three amigos

  230. chiselmonkey says: Aug 20, 2013 3:30 PM

    Remember standing up for what you believe is only admirable if your a liberal/socialist or member of the state run Media otherwise you are a nut and are to be minimalized.

  231. h8rgnh8 says: Aug 20, 2013 3:32 PM

    It is their right to pass on the invitation. I see none of the three making a big deal as to why they did not want to go, simple answers were giving. It’s funny how everyone wants to preach love, inclusion, and tolerance until you disagree with the mainstream, then it’s not ok have an opinion yet you must respect everyone else’s.
    The 71 team was better talent wise, the 72 team will always be remembered and there will never be another perfect season.

  232. gunnerfan2010 says: Aug 20, 2013 3:42 PM

    Wow, for guys so political and patriotic, all seem to miraculously avoid Vietnam. A true American would have joined the fight instead of playing football. Also those multiple DUI’s Bob Kuechenberg are a true indication of how America should be. I’m not the presidents biggest fan, not by a long, long shot, however it is imperative that you respect the office of the President of the United States. I served in the Army while President Bush 1 and Clinton were in office. Not really fond of either, however, it’s still the President and it should be respected as much. They made a story about a team effort into an individual statement.

  233. purpleman527 says: Aug 20, 2013 3:44 PM

    Obama is the one playing politics.

    Why would Obama “invite” the ’72 Dolphins in for a visit 41 years AFTER it happened?

    Politics. To make himself look good.

    What a bunch of SUCKERS.

  234. flr29 says: Aug 20, 2013 3:49 PM

    dryzzt23 says:
    Aug 20, 2013 11:02 AM

    Liberal players did this same thing when President George W. Bush was in the White House, and the media labeled those players as “heroes” and “courageous” for standing up for their political beliefs.
    ————————————————

    Is this true, or did you make this up?

    James Harrison did not visit Bush nor Obama. Said if the President really wanted to meet the Steelers, he should invite them on an off day. Also said (astutely) that the President would have invited Arizona had they won.

    Manny did not visit Bush because he was Manny. I don’t remember anyone lauding his “courage.”

    Chumura did not visit Clinton, claims it was because of the Utley tournament but who knows. He has since said it was “immature”.

    Bird (Reagan) and Jordan (Bush) each missed a visit to the White House, probably because their egos were too big.

    This snubbing of the President for political reasons is a recent phenomenon.

  235. danoj14 says: Aug 20, 2013 3:49 PM

    purpleman527 says:
    Aug 20, 2013 3:44 PM
    Obama is the one playing politics.

    Why would Obama “invite” the ’72 Dolphins in for a visit 41 years AFTER it happened?

    Politics. To make himself look good.

    What a bunch of SUCKERS.

    ——————————————————–

    And if he didn’t we’d hear from the ’72 Dolphins, yet again, how they were overlooked…

    Oh, and it was Reagan that is credited with turning the sports photo op into an art form.

  236. mlblogsbutlerblogs says: Aug 20, 2013 3:56 PM

    Ugh I never get this. You are being invited by the United States President to visit the house in which they have all resided in. You can dislike who ever is the President but the White House represents much more than who currently lives in it.

    They make it sound like Fidel invited the 72′ team to visit Cuba. Whether you like the President or not (whoever it may be at the time), its an honor for ANYONE, football player or marine, to be invited to the White House. Get over yourselves and show some pride with your teammates.

  237. samoanjungle says: Aug 20, 2013 4:04 PM

    Yeah all Obama ever did was rescue this country from a depression, save the banking & auto industry, championing healthcare for millions who couldn’t afford it, reign in unfair credit practices all the while building up the country’s infrastructure, ending two wars, presiding over the smallest pct increase in new Federal spending since the 1950’s, killing Bin Laden and supporting equality in marriage.
    I can see why people hate him so much….not.
    I guess you don’t much hear about that stuff on Fox “News” or in the upper middle-class white suburbs.

  238. orcahawk says: Aug 20, 2013 4:17 PM

    So these three guys who feel so strongly about politics actually had a chance to talk to the POTUS… and they PASSED?

    So – they could have shared thier opinions with the most powerful person in the country and they didn’t?

    I have a lot less sympathy for thier “plight” now, that’s for sure ~!

  239. gregmorris78 says: Aug 20, 2013 4:30 PM

    They disagree with policies and don’t go? They could’ve pleaded points in person but elect to skip!?

    R u sure they just couldn’t afford the air fare?

  240. countmahdrof says: Aug 20, 2013 4:34 PM

    LMAO at you wannabe subjects who act as though the prez is a king. He’s a citizen, just like you or me. No divine blood, or decreed infallibility. Respect is earned, not granted due to a popularity contest. And if Obama hasn’t earned respect in some eyes, it isn’t their “plight”.

  241. yipicya says: Aug 20, 2013 4:38 PM

    8to80texansblog says:
    Aug 20, 2013 3:24 PM
    yipicya says:
    Aug 20, 2013 2:51 PM
    1. Not even remotely true. We have literally lost 9 million jobs since Obama took office. Unemployment participation rate is lowest since depression.

    __________________________

    That is a slanted statement that preys on uneducated minds…. and you know it.

    Have we literally lost 9 million jobs since he took office or not? Yes or No?

    Is the workforce participation rate at it’s lowest peak or not? Yes or No?

    No, son, what’s a slanted statement for uneducated minds is the whole bogus “jobs created” number cited earlier being based on the same census job being filled by the same people every week.

    We currently have about 50 percent unemployment for minority youth in this country. We create about half as many jobs each week as people enter the workforce. We’ve stopped counting people who haven’t worked in 60 days as part of the unemployment data.

  242. bighurt228 says: Aug 20, 2013 4:48 PM

    Kudos to these three for standing for their beliefs, and principles. No one should take offense by them not going, it’s their option. In my opinion I think it’s way too late to celebrate that season. What’s o-bummer looking for more free autographs, and photo ops?

  243. danoj14 says: Aug 20, 2013 4:56 PM

    yipicya says:
    Aug 20, 2013 4:38 PM

    Have we literally lost 9 million jobs since he took office or not? Yes or No?

    Is the workforce participation rate at it’s lowest peak or not? Yes or No?

    ———————————————————-

    “Have we literally lost 9 million jobs since he took office or not? Yes or No?” No, quit getting your numbers from Rush. Go to FactCheck.org.

    “Is the workforce participation rate at it’s lowest peak or not? Yes or No?” What? No, workforce participation was lower with W in office. The rate under Obama has been 0.9 % higher than W.

  244. walkinginthewasteland says: Aug 20, 2013 5:09 PM

    Kudos for these 3 that dont want to be anywhere near the most corrupt president in US history.

  245. whodatnhollywood says: Aug 20, 2013 5:09 PM

    Dear Former Dolphins White House 3-Objectors,

    Presidents Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush 41 & Bush 43 all had an opportunity to invite you and your 1972 Dolphins team to the White House, but they didn’t. At least President Obama decided better late than never. Be grateful~and lay aside the politics. Your coach Don Shula did, and appreciated the gesture~40 years later.

    Your issue isn’t with Barack, but with the previous Republican administrations. Furthermore, it’s not every day American citizens are invited to the White House, including those of us who served proudly in the US Navy and other services with people of different political views. So, in essence, you have cheated yourselves and family of this honor and visit.

    What if the owner of the ’72 Dolphins was a Democrat? Would you have declined to play for him and cash those fat checks? I don’t think so.

    Most of us work with, worship with~or we’re friends with people we have different views from, yet we respect each others rights to those views.

    Instead of celebrating the ’72 Dolphins, we’re discussing the politics of 3 former players. I don’t agree with “everything” Obama or any president says or does. That’s what makes this a democracy. But I do respect the office of the president.

    Had I been invited to the White House and had a real issue with the president’s policy, I would have been man enough to go~and address that with the president if I felt that strongly about it.

    In my estimation, these three dudes have blown a golden opportunity to share their views directly.

  246. duece5 says: Aug 20, 2013 5:09 PM

    danoj14 says: Aug 20, 2013 2:42 PM

    gobigblue825 says:
    Aug 20, 2013 1:23 PM
    please give me three examples of how this country is better off than it was Jan 19th, 2009.

    ———————————————————–
    Just a few:

    1. The economy added more jobs during Obama’s first term than it did in his predecessor’s entire eight years in office.

    2. Domestic oil production has skyrocketed

    3. Stock Market has rebounded

    duece5 says:

    Hey danoj14, your numbers and your theory does not add up….AT ALL.

    1. Obama has not added ONE net job…..NET…..meaning there have been added jobs, but more jobs have been lost/furloughed/laid off than we have gained since he has taken office. it’s like money….if you make $100, spend $105….you are still down $5!!!! Look it up, we have lost more jobs than he has added in his 4+ years on the job…..not even close.

    2. We are a very small player in domestic oil production…AND YOUR OWN man, Obama, is totally against the Canadian pipeline that will help increase oil production/consumption.

    3. Stock market has little to do with jobs/economic growth/balancing the budget……all things that the President has more control over.

    Is there anything else you are wrong at, or is all you do is watch MSNBC for your fictional news?

  247. walkinginthewasteland says: Aug 20, 2013 5:14 PM

    dryzzt23 says: Aug 20, 2013 11:02 AM

    I swear most conservatives think the 1st Amendment means “freedom of repercussion for speech.” Or “freedom of speech for me only.” If you actually supported the 1st Amendment, you wouldn’t be trying to silence people who are exercising it.

    _____

    There are just as many liberals who are as restrictive in the free speech rights of others, ie conservatives.

  248. danoj14 says: Aug 20, 2013 5:25 PM

    walkinginthewasteland says:
    Aug 20, 2013 5:09 PM
    Kudos for these 3 that dont want to be anywhere near the most corrupt president in US history.

    —————————————————————

    They were invited to Nixon’s grave?

  249. danoj14 says: Aug 20, 2013 5:40 PM

    duece5 says:
    Aug 20, 2013 5:09 PM

    duece5 says:

    Hey danoj14, your numbers and your theory does not add up….AT ALL.

    1. Obama has not added ONE net job…..NET…..meaning there have been added jobs, but more jobs have been lost/furloughed/laid off than we have gained since he has taken office. it’s like money….if you make $100, spend $105….you are still down $5!!!! Look it up, we have lost more jobs than he has added in his 4+ years on the job…..not even close.

    2. We are a very small player in domestic oil production…AND YOUR OWN man, Obama, is totally against the Canadian pipeline that will help increase oil production/consumption.

    3. Stock market has little to do with jobs/economic growth/balancing the budget……all things that the President has more control over.

    Is there anything else you are wrong at, or is all you do is watch MSNBC for your fictional news?

    ————————————————————–

    If the facts were different, you would be right.

    1. Your math is as bad as your ability to recite facts. Check the Bureau of Labor Statistics. In his first term 4.4 million created, 4.3 million lost. So far, more created than lost during his second term.

    2. And….I stated it has skyrocketed. Am I wrong? You offered no evidence to suggest otherwise. Just Fox talking-points.

    3. Stock Market has little to do with jobs? Are you for real? So tell me, why do companies lay employees off?

    Come up with something to prove me wrong instead of your Rush-fueled nonsense.

  250. haywoodjablomee says: Aug 20, 2013 5:58 PM

    Finally, some players with a spine.

  251. hatersweargreen says: Aug 20, 2013 6:20 PM

    crap, i would have leaped at the opportunity to visit GW in the white house and i hold as opposite views as you can get compared to him. it’s not like the president just calls you over whenever.

    tim thomas (bruins goalie) pulled that crap too.

    if the president was a republican, the same folks would be complaining if a democrat player refused to visit the WH.

    the prez wants to have lunch with you; have lunch with him, sheesh.

  252. hatersweargreen says: Aug 20, 2013 6:21 PM

    danoj14 says: Aug 20, 2013 5:25 PM

    walkinginthewasteland says:
    Aug 20, 2013 5:09 PM
    Kudos for these 3 that dont want to be anywhere near the most corrupt president in US history.

    —————————————————————

    They were invited to Nixon’s grave?

    ———————-

    Ulysses S Grant’s. Great general, horribly corrupt admin.

  253. fdugrad says: Aug 20, 2013 6:33 PM

    Well, it appears that being older doesn’t mean one is mature.

  254. lesterclan says: Aug 20, 2013 6:48 PM

    And anonymous linemen they remain.
    ————————————————

    Uh, all three are in the Hall of Fame…

  255. danoj14 says: Aug 20, 2013 7:30 PM

    lesterclan says:
    Aug 20, 2013 6:48 PM
    And anonymous linemen they remain.
    ————————————————

    Uh, all three are in the Hall of Fame…

    —————————————–

    Uh, no, only Langer is in the Hall of Fame

  256. shaundolphinsfan23 says: Aug 20, 2013 7:59 PM

    Obama is a terrible human being whom these former players do not care to be around. I don’t see why that is wrong of them.

  257. robgilman says: Aug 20, 2013 9:21 PM

    Wow 3 guys exercised their right as Americans by simply choosing not to go somewhere, and look at the reaction by people… Does it affect you at all? No. Did they come out and bash the President? No. They said they don’t want to go for personal reasons.

    It’s actually really funny that it upsets people so much. It’s not even like they’re holding up signs campaigning for anything. They aren’t doing anything. Get over it, regardless of political affiliation.

  258. vbbills says: Aug 20, 2013 10:24 PM

    What would Forrest Gump do? He would go… again.

  259. jerjaxon says: Aug 20, 2013 11:37 PM

    focus on the many issues affecting this crumbling nation…or spend time going on Jay Leno before hanging out with a bunch of old timer football players? decisions, decisions.

  260. ialwayswantedtobeabanker says: Aug 20, 2013 11:51 PM

    Some guy in here said he’d never heard of Langer or Manny.

    C’mon man!

    Langer was a legend (HOF enshrinee speaks for itself), and Fernandez was a interior DL beast. The amount of tackles Manny racked up in S.B.s VII and VIII are astonishing (even more so considering he was legally blind throughout it all).

    And no, I’m not a Dolphin homer — all football fans should know the basics.

    Much credit to Keuch, Langer and Manny for abiding by their conscience – while also doing it tactfully and with class.

  261. stevecmh says: Aug 20, 2013 11:58 PM

    I’m proud to say that I voted President Obama twice. That being said, these men are free to say and do whatever they want.

    What I find disappointing are the extreme, harsh comments here.

  262. blanchonegro says: Aug 21, 2013 5:02 AM

    men like those 3 are why we have a free country n a constitution. proud of them.

  263. oshkoshoz says: Aug 21, 2013 5:42 AM

    Manny F.: The Tea Party members of the House are blocking immigration reform; those are your people?

    Look, if Richard Nixon or George W. Bush was in the White House and he invited me, I’d go, no matter what I thought of the current office holder. To be with the President, flawed as though I may believe him to be, in the White House where so many poor, mediocre, good and great men have served our nation, are moments I’d never forget.

    Really small, those three Dolphins.

  264. doctorart2013 says: Aug 21, 2013 7:17 AM

    These three old coots just took an opportunity to disrespect the President & the Office with their childish protest, taking away the honor the 72′ Dolphins should have gotten the other day.

  265. dbo2020 says: Aug 21, 2013 8:10 AM

    dryzzt23 says:
    Aug 20, 2013 11:02 AM
    1st amendment anyone? NO ONE should rip these guys for choosing to not be in the company of a person that they do not agree with.

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    ACTUALLY, I’m pretty sure the 1st amendment ALSO protects an individual’s right to call out others. So when you say NO ONE should rip these guys, you’re limiting someone else’s 1st amendment rights. That’s how free speech works – responses are allowed.

  266. contract says: Aug 21, 2013 8:30 AM

    Mixing sports and politics is dumb all around. The President (all Presidents) should quit calling athletes to congratulate them when they win, and they should quit having these public White House visits. It’s all just lame reflected glow PR.

  267. danoj14 says: Aug 21, 2013 10:29 AM

    ialwayswantedtobeabanker says:
    Aug 20, 2013 11:51 PM

    Much credit to Keuch, Langer and Manny for abiding by their conscience – while also doing it tactfully and with class.

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    “Tactfully and with class”? Hardly.

    To have done this tactfully and with class they would not have stated anything to the press, just not shown up. They made a political statement regarding something sports-related.

    Don Shula showed class. Not those three.

  268. danoj14 says: Aug 21, 2013 10:31 AM

    blanchonegro says:
    Aug 21, 2013 5:02 AM
    men like those 3 are why we have a free country n a constitution. proud of them.

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    Proud of three men that chose to disrespect the leader of the free world over team?

    Wow…hope you’re not anyone’s role model.

  269. jjconley says: Aug 21, 2013 10:55 AM

    danoj14 says:
    Aug 20, 2013 4:56 PM

    “Is the workforce participation rate at it’s lowest peak or not? Yes or No?” What? No, workforce participation was lower with W in office. The rate under Obama has been 0.9 % higher than W.

    Wrong. Anyone can Google “workforce participation rate” then click the first link which is a government site. That official chart shows danoj14 is either very uninformed or simply lying. Good for these players standing up for what they believe in very simply and without conflict, regardless of their opinion in politics. It works both ways.

  270. keepyerstickontheice says: Aug 21, 2013 11:09 AM

    There is no I in team, but there is one in “Dolphin”!

  271. devidisi says: Aug 21, 2013 11:21 AM

    If you think it’s just a matter of them putting their politics aside, maybe you just don’t understand where they are coming from. Maybe they see the trajectory this society is on.

  272. rukkus1 says: Aug 21, 2013 11:28 AM

    Until Americans wake up and quit being slaves to the chains that divide us things in our country will continue to get worse.

    If you still think theres a difference between a Democrat and Republican, you aint too bright. If you feel that just cuz someone doesnt want to go to the Whitehouse is because they are racist or bitter, you aint too bright.

    When are you massses goin to wake up and realize that all these politicians are cut from the same cloth? None of them have our best interest in mind.

    For people to think that someone should put their beliefs on the shelf and go to celebrate with politicians is really something. This country is far gone because a long history of worthless politicians.

  273. duece5 says: Aug 21, 2013 1:59 PM

    Correction….Nov. 4th 2012 National Debt: 16.2 TRILLION $$$$

  274. samspad says: Aug 21, 2013 4:35 PM

    THESE ARE THE ’72 DOLPHINS……WHY IS HE NOW HONORING THEM?????…….HE HAS BEEN IN THE WHITE HOUSE FOR NEARLY 5 YEARS…..AND NOW HE FEELS HE MUST HONOR THEM?????……OH THAT’S RIGHT……2014 IS COMING AND HE MUST PROTECT THE SENATE……DOESN’T WANT TO LOSE THOSE VOTES AND POSSIBLY LOSE THE SENATE……DOES HE THINK WE ARE STUPID????>…..AND KUDOS TO THOSE THAT REFUSE TO PATRONIZE HIM……..YOU GUYS ARE REAL HEROES……

  275. coachsemanko says: Aug 22, 2013 12:13 AM

    I have been a Fins fan since 1968, but having the 72 Dolphins in the White House was a blatant waste of Taxpayers money!
    They should have visited the WH in 1972, not 2013!

  276. mikeheruki says: Aug 22, 2013 12:08 PM

    I wouldn’t go just because I hate getting dressed up and have no interest in going to the White House NO MATTER WHO is in office.

  277. crosbee says: Aug 22, 2013 2:46 PM

    Interesting how these guys seemed to have no trouble cashing checks from owner Joe Robbie, an outspoken and active Democrat.

    Well I guess they didn’t have to visit his house too often, either.

  278. sillec28 says: Aug 22, 2013 6:24 PM

    Good illustration of the old saying that “if you weren’t a liberal when you were young you had no heart. If you aren’t a conservative when you’re old you have no brain.”

  279. selldannysell says: Aug 23, 2013 11:05 AM

    dryzzt23 says: Aug 20, 2013 11:02 AM

    1st amendment anyone?
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    Um, try again! Go back and read your history book. The First Amendment states that GOVERNMENT can’t censure you for speech. You can say anything you want. But, with that right comes certain responsibilities as well as consequences for abusing that right. I find it funny that the people who cry, “First Amendment,” are the same ones who want to deny that right to those with whom they don’t agree.

  280. dsimp724 says: Aug 23, 2013 4:26 PM

    Next week the grandchildren of the 1919 black sox champs

  281. stonefish67 says: Aug 23, 2013 6:13 PM

    Good for them. I would also pass on the opportunity to see this Marxist piece of pond scum.

  282. danoj14 says: Aug 23, 2013 8:05 PM

    stonefish67 says:
    Aug 23, 2013 6:13 PM
    Good for them. I would also pass on the opportunity to see this Marxist piece of pond scum.

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    They weren’t missed

  283. saints4life57 says: Aug 24, 2013 11:28 PM

    On a side note! Weather you liked the president or not, why wouldn’t you want to go see the White House? There is a lot of history in that building and it would just be a cool ass place to go visit! There were other good presidents that also stayed there through out the years! Didn’t have to go just to see Obama! Geeeez!

  284. johnnyritchie says: Aug 25, 2013 12:10 AM

    Beautiful, I’m glad there are still men of principle in this country!

  285. phillyphinsfan says: Aug 25, 2013 9:16 AM

    I could care less. Polarization is killing this country.

  286. whiningpatriotfans says: Aug 25, 2013 9:56 PM

    Undefeated is better than 18-1, right? Just checking. Enjoy the champagne you crazy old guys.

  287. hodag54501 says: Aug 26, 2013 8:50 AM

    “Good for them. I would also pass on the opportunity to see this Marxist piece of pond scum.”
    Good example of the phoniness of the “conservatives” in this country.
    True Americans honor the request of President of the United States, regardless of whether you honor the person or not. The “conservatives” see themselves only as true Americans, so on “principal” they think they’ve taken the higher ground by rejecting an offer from the White House to visit.
    Even during Nixon times, sports teams attended the White House calls without this type of symbolic horsepucky.
    Lets say some hard-right wingnut like Rick Perry got elected. Should all the Democrats boycott? Has it really come that far?
    The right wing in this country is crazier than the left wing, and that says much, considering the real crazies of the far left. Much of the “Marxism” is laughable, given Obama’s butt-smooching of Wall Street. What’s really behind it is there is a group in this nation who don’t like having an person with a different skin color than theirs in the “White” House.
    Sad to say but this hard stance by both the left and the right is leading to a type of cold civil war. Is that what we want?

  288. jimeejohnson says: Aug 26, 2013 1:03 PM

    “Lets say some hard-right wingnut like Rick Perry got elected…”

    Let’s say money grows on trees.

  289. dolfan72 says: Oct 6, 2014 8:11 AM

    Remind NOBAMA he has 837 DAYS TO GO!

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