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Pioli praises Baldwin’s abilities, explains he needs consistency

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Earlier this week, the 49ers and Chiefs swapped a pair of first-round disappointments at the receiver position.  Chiefs (and former 49ers) quarterback Alex Smith has vouched for A.J. Jenkins.   Likewise, the man who made the former Pitt wideout a member of the Chiefs is praising Jon Baldwin.

“When we drafted him, we felt he was a tremendous height, weight, speed prospect,” former Chiefs G.M. Scott Pioli told Cam Inman of the Bay Area News Group.  “Even though he’s a big, tall guy, he has deceptive speed and covers more ground than you’d expect. . . .  He’s got very good hands.  He just needs to be more consistent.  He’ll make catches other players in the NFL just can’t make.”

So far, Baldwin hasn’t made all that many catches — 21 as a rookie in 2011 and 20 in 2012.  The quality of quarterback play possibly is a factor; now, Baldwin has upgraded from Matt Cassel to Colin Kaepernick.

“What happens between a quarterback and receiver is very much chemistry related, and that’s yet to be determined,” Pioli said regarding Baldwin’s new arrangement.

In the end, it could be a win-win proposition.  Both players arguably will benefit from the wake-up call, and both teams now have nothing to lose.

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  1. discosucs2005 says: Aug 21, 2013 7:52 AM

    I’m glad the Niners didn’t cling to Jenkins like they did Smith. Of Jenkins does good in KC, good for him, we rarely play them anyway. Of Baldwin does good for us, cool, we need someone while Crabtree and Maningham get healthy. If they both suck, the teams save some face and no one outside of commenters here will even remember that either team drafted a bust in the first place.

  2. taylorgangtrippymane says: Aug 21, 2013 8:02 AM

    This came from Scott Pioli? Okay then I won’t take it seriously.

  3. hankstramjr says: Aug 21, 2013 8:04 AM

    And Kansas City will benefit by not having a clueless GM take a second rounder (at best) in the first round.

  4. mikeymurda says: Aug 21, 2013 8:05 AM

    #QuestForSix

  5. iamthegreatcornflorio says: Aug 21, 2013 8:13 AM

    Plain and simple, Pioli blew it with the Baldwin pick.

  6. jdubkc says: Aug 21, 2013 9:44 AM

    OMG please, enough with Pioli… the guys a farce. I would be more interested in what Paula, the concessions girl on the lower level has to say.

  7. tombradyswig says: Aug 21, 2013 10:03 AM

    Pioli is horrible!!!!!
    I think my cat would be a better GM!

  8. kcflake says: Aug 21, 2013 10:08 AM

    Scott Pioli is a joke. I wish he could be banned from further commenting on Chiefs matters. he ran our franchise into the ground. This is Another Shining Example why Pioli was Fired by the Chiefs. Baldwin was a joke of a 1st round pick and showed everyone why the last 2 years. he is slow, can;t run routes and can’t catch the football. I am SOOOOO Glad Baldwin is gone. Pioli too for that matter. The Chiefs organization is Better for not having these two clowns around anymore.

  9. azjahwkr says: Aug 21, 2013 10:25 AM

    What else would you expect this loser to say about the stiff? Good riddance to both of them

  10. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Aug 21, 2013 10:28 AM

    “Even though he’s a big, tall guy, he has deceptive speed and covers more ground than you’d expect. . . . He’s got very good hands. He just needs to be more consistent. He’ll make catches other players in the NFL just can’t make.”

    So we traded him.

  11. sampsonswag01 says: Aug 21, 2013 10:52 AM

    I think this will be a very interesting experiment indeed. The “Chefs” the last two years simply had a horrible work environment for everyone. Romeo Cranell is a nice guy and players coach but just doesn’t have the “it” HC factor but add to that the suicide event. horrible. Then the year before with Todd Haley and all his dictator nonsense.

    Hands can be improved upon. Route running as well. And it’s amazing what can happen with some people when they go from the chaos outlined above to a roster filled with championship quality players.

    I def don’t expect him to be a super star by any measure but if we can squeeze 30 catches/500 yards from him…..that’s a huge victory in my book

  12. alexsmithpwnswhinners says: Aug 21, 2013 10:56 AM

    With this AJ for Baldwin trade, the 9er FO and Harb basically show and folded their cards even before the regular season has even started. Now every other team they will faced in the regular season already knows, they have NO WRs, except Boldin. They are just going to double team Boldin and rush Kap. The other WRs will not produce. Too easy.
    They showed and folded their cards before the season even started rofl!!! There will be some tough times ahead for kap this season…

  13. jrazz22 says: Aug 21, 2013 11:26 AM

    alexsmithpwnswhinners
    Aug 21, 2013, 7:56 AM PDT
    With this AJ for Baldwin trade, the 9er FO and Harb basically show and folded their cards even before the regular season has even started. Now every other team they will faced in the regular season already knows, they have NO WRs, except Boldin. They are just going to double team Boldin and rush Kap. The other WRs will not produce. Too easy.
    They showed and folded their cards before the season even started rofl!!! There will be some tough times ahead for kap this season…
    ——————————————————–
    Great analysis! You did a great job breaking it down because as we all know, only WR’s can catch passes from a QB’s

  14. alexsmithpwnswhinners says: Aug 21, 2013 12:48 PM

    jrazz22 says:

    Great analysis! You did a great job breaking it down because as we all know, only WR’s can catch passes from a QB’s

    —————————————————–

    A good or great WR crop should catch most of the passes yes. A weak one will not take you to the next level. It has been the achilles heel the past 2 seasons and will be this one, since the current 9er FO and Harb has taken over.

    They have Boldin, and NOTHING ELSE after.

    One of the primary reason why BAL won the SB last year was cause they had a great WR Crop that included Boldin.

    The 49ers without crabtree, has NOTHING in the WR crop to spread the defense out to help Boldin. GL with that.

    LOL “Jim Harbaugh on Sunday said that Anquan Boldin, Kyle Williams and Marlon Moore occupy the first three spots.” if you have Kyle Williams even as your 3rd WR still, in the 3rd season of your current regime (coaches and FO), you have got some serious issues in your WR crop… He should have been gone last season already, yet he’s still here and has a chance to make the team…

    I’m not even going to sugar coat this, the 49ers will not win the SB, until Kyle Williams is no longer on the team. Bet on it. That’s what happened last year, lack of a strong WR crop. And worse the year before.
    And you are still in the same situation this year? Furthermore you failed and desperately traded your 2012 1st round pick WR in the middle of preseason??? LOL…! What a joke.

  15. alexsmithpwnswhinners says: Aug 21, 2013 12:48 PM

    “Baldwin, on the other hand, is a 6-4, 230-pound mystery at the moment. What’s more, the 49ers only have 11 days before they must trim their roster to 53 players. That’s not enough time to fully evaluate Baldwin, which means he’s likely to make the squad. (Though he may be inactive early in the season). His $1.061 million salary also is fully guaranteed, which is another reason to keep him aboard. That’s five receivers.”
    A mystery?!? LOL, to the 9ers that is…
    Alex Smith has worked with both AJ and Baldwin.
    Harb, the 49ers FO and any fan don’t think Andy Reid would have ask Alex Smith if he thinks AJ or Baldwin is a better WR? LOL… On the other hand, the 49ers, Harb, Kap has never worked with Baldwin, they don’t know and can’t compare the two until they have actually work with Baldwin. That right there should tell you who will be better in the long run and who actually got a better player in the trade lol.

  16. alexsmithpwnswhinners says: Aug 21, 2013 12:49 PM

    There will be no chemistry and thus no trust from kap, Baldwin is another bust that failed and fired former KC GM Pioli has drafted high. Same with AJ, in the 9er FO eyes, however AJ wasn’t given the opportunities to start in the regular season in a team that made the SB last year, he has no experience. While the bust Baldwin had 2 seasons of work that can be examined and the conclusion was that he was a bust so far and most likely even with the 9ers, because the 49ers only traded for him not cause they really wanted him to begin with, it was only to unload an inexperience AJ they never gave a chance to and they believe would not help them to another SB run this season. But in doing so, they have admitted their failure, showed, and folded their hands to the league before the season has even started. Fail is fail.

  17. jrazz22 says: Aug 21, 2013 1:11 PM

    The Ravens had a “great” receiving core? They were solid but far away from great.

    Also, not once did you mention Vernon Davis who is a top TE in the league. Losing Crabtree definitely hurts, but you make it sound like they have no chance.
    Besides, they’ve been a running team for years.

    Get a clue

  18. alexsmithpwnswhinners says: Aug 21, 2013 2:05 PM

    You don’t get confidence without experience. That’s a FACT. That’s with ANYTHING. That’s what happened to AJ. The 9er FO and coaching staff never gave AJ a chance to gain that experience (as a 1st round WR), you can argue that last year’s SB run, AJ didn’t have that chance. They had more experienced WR they needed to count on to get the job done so AJ didn’t get that chance to gain some experience in real games. The experience he needed to show confidence to prove he can handle the job he needed to do for the 9ers to make another SB run this year.

    Regardless, the AJ trade prove the 9ers are in a load of trouble with the WR crop yet again.
    I knew the 49ers will not be in the SB this season coming off losing it so hard last season, I just didn’t know how yet, until they play some games to be examined.

    But since 49ers made that trade, it’s apparent now the problem is the same as the past 2 seasons. It’s not the ALEX SMITH issue anymore, the whiners can’t whine about that now… it’s the same problem over and over again now that crabtree is out this season, people thought maybe AJ can step up or someone else w/e, but as soon as they traded AJ, right there is a signal to me and to the whole league they STILL have some serious problem with their WR crop, they will not get to the SB cause of it AGAIN.
    Look at all the vet WRs they keep bring in (Edwards, Manningham and Moss, Now Boldin and a bunch of nobodies, why not darrius heyward bey?) to try to fix it but it never did fix it and they pretty much admitted they wasted a 1st round pick for WR last season.

    Just look at all of the SB winners the past 5 years at least (BAL, NYG, GB, NO, and PIT) they all had good WR crops. The 9ers doesn’t, why they will not get to or win the SB this season AGAIN.

    And I will say this again, UNTIL Kyle Williams is GONE from the 49ers, the 49ers will NOT get back to the SB. The kid mess up a chance for the team to go to the SB in 2011 and he isn’t even that good of a WR, he’s decent as a PR (they have James for that now) and that’s if he doesn’t get popped hard and fumble consider how small he is, other than that if he is a WR on the 9ers, the 9ers has NOT fix their WR crop problem.

  19. alexsmithpwnswhinners says: Aug 21, 2013 2:09 PM

    jrazz22 says:
    Aug 21, 2013 1:11 PM
    The Ravens had a “great” receiving core? They were solid but far away from great.
    >>>>> Better than 9ers. Is ALL you need to know.

    Also, not once did you mention Vernon Davis who is a top TE in the league.

    >>>>> VD is not a WR. Try harder. 9er failed again, same problem, nothing change. However, this time they hit the panic button sooner than later and now everyone knows. THAT includes YOU, thank me for letting clueless fans like you know LOL!!!

  20. alexsmithpwnswhinners says: Aug 21, 2013 2:32 PM

    Bowe did just fine with the same QBs Baldwin had.

    Face it, Baldwin was given the chance and proven to be a bust, Andy Reid and Alex Smith would tell you the same thing, Harb and Baalke will realize that after this season lol, a bit late IMO ROFL… guess beggars can’t be choosers lol.

  21. jayniner says: Aug 21, 2013 3:07 PM

    @alexsmithpwnswhinners

    Are you just angry because you’re a KC fan and have had nothing to look forward to and will not have anything to look forward to for years to come?(with the exception of Alex Smith now)

    No one(not even you) knows how this will play out with the swap of these two WR’s. If you need an example of that, check the career for Cris Carter who was widely criticized as a “BUST” until he got to Minnesota….and is now a Hall of Famer.

    Have a great day!

  22. alexsmithpwnswhinners says: Aug 21, 2013 3:20 PM

    jayniner says:
    Aug 21, 2013 3:07 PM
    @alexsmithpwnswhinners

    No one(not even you) knows how this will play out with the swap of these two WR’s.

    >>>>>
    HEY you don’t have to take my word for it. You don’t even have to respond to me or any of my posts. I am a 49er fan, I am calling it as it is. If you don’t like it that’s YOU. Has nothing to do with me and what I know and posted, I CAN CARE LESS.

    However like any other clueless fans on here and any other NFL sports related sites, you seem to have a problem with the info I have provide with my posts, cause you probably knows it’s the TRUTH and will happen. If I was a fan like you, I would trip on my post too LOL!!!

  23. jrazz22 says: Aug 21, 2013 3:26 PM

    Apparently @alexsmithpwnswhinners doesn’t realize that tight ends can catch passes. What a turd.

  24. ninerrahrah says: Aug 21, 2013 3:34 PM

    @alesmithpwnswhinners…..

    WOW….you are an angry fellow aren’t you?? True J.B had the same QB as Dwayne Bowe but no one is arguing that J. Baldwin is as good as Bowe. Your complete disregard for Vernon Davis as a pass catcher is ridiculous. If you expect anyone to take any of your comments seriously you must acknowledge V. Davis is an awesome receiver and more than capable contributor in the passing game. Your comments about Kyle Williams are foolish too. Kyle Williams is no pro bowler but you gotta have people like that on your team. He’s versatile. Sure he gets hurt a lot and he muffed 2 punts 2 years ago. He’s fast and he and catch. If J. Harb says he’s the #2, I’d like to think that he probably knows what he’s doing. You can work yourself up and huff and puff about how the niners are screwed and Kaep is in trouble but the fact is your just an angry little man who needs to relax. Kaep will be fine, the niners will be fine, J.B will be fine too. Stop calling your weird analysis facts, they aren’t facts, they’re just wired assumptions your making that has most people reading these comments laugh. By the way ,90% of sports handicappers nationwide have the niners winning the Super Bowl and almost 99% have them at least going to the Super Bowl. Go niners!

  25. jjackwagon says: Aug 21, 2013 3:46 PM

    I have been enjoying your dialogue but here is all you guys need to know.

    Reid has two years worth of tape on Baldwin and no tape on Jenkins but was still willing to trade a known for an unknown.

  26. ninerrahrah says: Aug 21, 2013 4:39 PM

    Same the other way around…..right?

  27. alexsmithpwnswhinners says: Aug 21, 2013 4:44 PM

    ninerrahrah says:
    Aug 21, 2013 3:34 PM
    @alesmithpwnswhinners…..

    WOW….you are an angry fellow aren’t you??

    >>>
    LOL, no more than the alex smith whiners have been the last 7 seasons rofl…

    I’ll cheer and watch the 9ers, but they aren’t going to the SB because of this glaring WR CROP issue that still exist.

  28. jayniner says: Aug 21, 2013 4:49 PM

    @alexsmithpwnswhinners

    First, copying one sentence of my comment and responding to it takes the whole thing out of context.

    Second, you say you could care less about my opinion, which means you actually care about it, considering the time you took to reply….so thank you.

    Third, seriously? Your a Niners fan? I don’t think anyone would have guessed that based on your comments and berating of basically the entire team from Harbaugh and the QB situation to the WR’s.

    Xanax is good for all that anger by the way….

  29. jayniner says: Aug 21, 2013 4:52 PM

    @jackwagon

    Well said and good point.

    alexsmithpwnswhinners could learn a thing or two from you about “short, sweet and to the point”

  30. damce1 says: Aug 21, 2013 9:40 PM

    I think baldwin will be productive. Besides that, niners havent had great wide outs for some time. If you look at it we went from solid to soso… that said nobody was affraid or the WRs anyway really the only change if you think about it is crabs for AB to start the season from last year. Factor in the run game, VD and kap as a whole… Backed up by the D pluss crabs/mario coming back at some point. The only real question is will vance mcdonald do well enough right away to replace DW… if so should free up VD! look out!

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