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Mark Murphy doubts 18 regular or 2 preseason games

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The 18-game schedule is like the NFL’s hole card, the thing that won’t go away, that might be “on the table” from time to time, though few expect it to happen.

But it’s interesting to see how those in the league address the topic, and how the view of scheduling changes over time.

In an interview with the Green Bay Press-Gazette, Packers president Mark Murphy again said he didn’t expect to see an 18-game slate.

“I think with all the concerns about the health and safety of players, it’s hard to justify,” Murphy said. “To go from 16 to 18 regular-season (games) would be a lot more wear and tear. It would be additional games for your starters.”

Murphy has made similar comments about the regular season before. But while he previously said he could get behind a 16-game regular season with a two-game preseason, his latest remarks made it appear he’s realized that’s not happening either.

Murphy, who serves on the league’s management council executive committee, competition committee and health and safety committee, said there were a “couple issues there” with cutting the preseason in half.

“You’ve got loss of revenue — you don’t have much TV revenue from that, but you do have ticket revenue,” Murphy said. “And then the other big issue is being able to really evaluate and develop young players. Taking away those two game opportunities, especially since we have so many fewer practices [in training camp], . . . you don’t block and tackle [in practice] so the games are really important in terms of evaluating.”

Murphy suggested that one possibility was building an extra bye week in between the end of the preseason and the start of the regular season. But that’s already happening in a sense, with every team closing the preseason on next Thursday, to clear the weekend.

Either way, it’s clear the league realizes there’s some degree of problem with the current exhibition product, but isn’t wild about giving away money to fix it.

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28 Responses to “Mark Murphy doubts 18 regular or 2 preseason games”
  1. gjperch says: Aug 23, 2013 11:36 AM

    It’s too bad the NFL hasn’t figured out a viable farm system yet for the “needs development” players.

  2. sandblastermoron says: Aug 23, 2013 11:38 AM

    Hey Mark! Quit worrying about the schedule and focus on how u can help snow white and the other ten dwarfs on defense!

  3. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Aug 23, 2013 11:39 AM

    An extra two games would be especially hard on the Packers because they can’t even keep guys healthy for the preseason.

  4. footballradioshow says: Aug 23, 2013 11:42 AM

    The frequency that players are getting hurt, even with expanded rosters are teams going to have good enough players for quality games late in the season?

  5. bmoreravens1012013 says: Aug 23, 2013 11:56 AM

    Only reason they backed off the 18 game schedule is because they haven’t figured out what lie to use to rationalize it.

  6. jrmbadger says: Aug 23, 2013 12:00 PM

    Mark Murphy could probably start for the Vikings at Quarterback.

  7. alex35332 says: Aug 23, 2013 12:02 PM

    Go to a 17 game season with 16 games that can be played at neutral locations each year, giving you games to play in London, LA, Toronto, Mexico, Canton, Orlando, Vegas, China and wherever else you want to put them.

    Cut pre-season to 1 home 1 away game per team.

    Add a farm system where teams can send developmental type players and have a short 8 game season for them. Maybe not 32 teams to start, but ideally grow it to that.

  8. jjh1982 says: Aug 23, 2013 12:12 PM

    Wow you jealous Vikings fans get a life already!

  9. mickmoney says: Aug 23, 2013 12:14 PM

    Healthy like Floyd’s knee surgery Spielman? I usually like to read what you have to say you seem intelligent for a queens fan but everyone has injuries in the pre-season take a look around the league.

  10. thestrategyexpert says: Aug 23, 2013 12:16 PM

    It doesn’t feel like the league thinks there is a problem because they continue every year to elect to do nothing and keep the same system in lieu of any and all other options. The NFL is indicating that things are perfect and don’t need to be changed. I disagree with them and think constructive changes are long overdue.

  11. htown1035 says: Aug 23, 2013 12:25 PM

    18 game schedule will happen, just a matter of when.

  12. mogogo1 says: Aug 23, 2013 12:25 PM

    It says a lot that even Murphy–who talks way more honestly about this issue than anybody else associated with the owners or league office–STILL doesn’t address the elephant in the room. Namely, the NFL and the owners can’t institute an 18-game schedule without player approval. And that’s never going to happen.

  13. contra74 says: Aug 23, 2013 12:30 PM

    jrmbadger says:
    Aug 23, 2013 12:00 PM
    Mark Murphy could probably start for the Vikings at Quarterback.
    —-
    The Pillsbury doughboy could probably take McCarthys spot…wait, he already does.

    A Wal-Mart greeter could probably start on the Packer O-line and probably be an upgrade.

    A blind nun could probably have a better FG% than your kicker.

    See, we can play this game too except I dont do it on back to back articles where the first thing out of my mouth is a slam against the Vikings. But wait…you guys arent worried about the Vikings right?

  14. thetroofishere says: Aug 23, 2013 12:30 PM

    Drop one of the preseason games and add one team to the playoffs from each conference. This way, they can have playoff football on Friday, Saturday and Sunday the first playoff weekend.

  15. EJ says: Aug 23, 2013 12:37 PM

    The NFL needs to make a semi-pro league for players that have potential, but need more time to groom. Paying the players a little less than what players on an NFL practice squad make.

    -32 Semi-pro teams, one for each NFL team.

    -Games played on Friday nights, so as not to interfere with Saturday College or Sunday/Monday NFL games.

    Do this instead of extending the NFL’s regular season.

  16. mshawn75 says: Aug 23, 2013 12:39 PM

    Asking Mark Murphy about this is a joke. He runs the 1 team without an owner. The CBA (new and old) states that the players will play 20 games per year. It is up to the owners to decide which will be regular season and pre-season.

  17. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Aug 23, 2013 12:47 PM

    mickmoney says:Aug 23, 2013 12:14 PM

    Healthy like Floyd’s knee surgery Spielman? I usually like to read what you have to say you seem intelligent for a queens fan but everyone has injuries in the pre-season take a look around the league.
    ______

    Sorry, my mistake. I was under the impression that the Packers had a lot of injuries over the last few years. Don’t know how I could have gotten that idea. You’re right, that minor procedure Floyd had on his knee that will keep him out two weeks is pretty much the same as the injuries to Bulaga, Sherrod, Nelson, Cobb, Lacy, Hayward…

  18. muskyhunter2542 says: Aug 23, 2013 12:54 PM

    contra74 says:
    Aug 23, 2013 12:30 PM
    jrmbadger says:
    Aug 23, 2013 12:00 PM
    Mark Murphy could probably start for the Vikings at Quarterback.
    —-
    The Pillsbury doughboy could probably take McCarthys spot…wait, he already does.

    A Wal-Mart greeter could probably start on the Packer O-line and probably be an upgrade.

    A blind nun could probably have a better FG% than your kicker.

    See, we can play this game too except I dont do it on back to back articles where the first thing out of my mouth is a slam against the Vikings. But wait…you guys arent worried about the Vikings right?

    _______________________
    Nope!!!

  19. Carl Gerbschmidt says: Aug 23, 2013 12:56 PM

    EJ says:Aug 23, 2013 12:37 PM

    The NFL needs to make a semi-pro league for players that have potential, but need more time to groom. Paying the players a little less than what players on an NFL practice squad make.

    —–

    Well sure, that seems like a great idea. But, what happens when the semi-pro vikings play the NFL vikings and beat them? That would be a PR nightmare.

  20. mickmoney says: Aug 23, 2013 1:06 PM

    Nelson minor knee surgery back for week one, cobb would play if it was regular season hayward back, lacy has been back and bowling over defenders. ACL’s happen and so do freak broken legs. Get ready to watch Jennings on the sidelines all year, if he doesn’t get hurt he’ll fake it cause he’s seen who’s throwing him the ball.

    Keep dreaming of all those wins you guys will get, hope you enjoy them before you wake up

  21. alex35332 says: Aug 23, 2013 1:13 PM

    Carl Gerbschmidt says:

    Well sure, that seems like a great idea. But, what happens when the semi-pro vikings play the NFL vikings and beat them? That would be a PR nightmare.
    ———-
    Why would a semi-pro team play an NFL team? You never see a AAA squad play the MLB squad. the 2nd team would play other 2nd teams not first teams like college.

  22. axespray says: Aug 23, 2013 1:28 PM

    how about we quit with this 18 game stuff and start discussing how we can give every team a mid-season bye or something to get rid of week 3-week 5 bye weeks…

    Early Bye Weeks suck.

  23. Carl Gerbschmidt says: Aug 23, 2013 1:52 PM

    alex35332 says:Aug 23, 2013 1:13 PM

    Carl Gerbschmidt says:

    Well sure, that seems like a great idea. But, what happens when the semi-pro vikings play the NFL vikings and beat them? That would be a PR nightmare.
    ———-
    Why would a semi-pro team play an NFL team? You never see a AAA squad play the MLB squad. the 2nd team would play other 2nd teams not first teams like college

    —–

    Good lord, are all vike fans this stupid? Oh wait, nevermind I just answered my own question.

  24. allday28mvpmvp says: Aug 23, 2013 3:08 PM

    I wish it was an 18 game season. No way Pack O-line can hold up that long.

  25. judsonjr says: Aug 23, 2013 3:13 PM

    I grew up in a town that had CBA basketball which was basically a farm league for the NBA before it disbanded.

    There is an inherent problem with this type of setup as a business. The teams that win are the ones that have the players that are good, but not good enough to get called up. As a fan you follow a team that might be on the road to a championship, only to fall apart when your best player gets called up.

    I guess it might work if it was setup as a Spring league, if players could take that long of a season.

  26. filthymcnasty1 says: Aug 23, 2013 3:56 PM

    As the late Bud Grant once said, “Viking fans are small people (metaphorically speaking) living small lives, beneath the giant shadow of the Green Bay Packers.

  27. tokyosandblaster says: Aug 23, 2013 4:25 PM

    I’m not sure how the Packers president saying 18 games is bad translates into a Viking jealousy fest.

    If they went to 18 games, the players hit hardest would be running backs.

    Isn’t that one of the positions of (PED) strength on your team?

  28. mackcarrington says: Aug 23, 2013 4:59 PM

    They play 4 preseason games now. 2 at home and 2 on the road. So they would lose 1 road game and 1 home game. The only significant money lost would be from the season ticket sales, which are bundled with the preseason games. From watching the empty stadiums during the preseason, they don’t sell a lot of individual game seats anyway. Even the season ticket holders don’t attend those games and they’ve paid for the seats. Now, if they add 2 regular season games I don’t figure they will lose any revenue at all because it will still be a 20 game bundle for the season tickets. And with the new tackling and concussion rules, the safety issues are mitigated. Goodell is eventually going to win this one.

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