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Vikings break off stadium talks

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The headline makes the situation look worse than it is, but three weeks ago it would have been inconceivable.

According to the Minneapolis/St. Paul Business Journal, the Vikings have broken off talks aimed at finalizing the team’s new stadium pending resolution of an investigation regarding the owners of the franchise.

The development potentially will delay groundbreaking for the stadium, which currently is set for November 7.   To stay on track, the stadium deal needs to be finalized by September 15.

There’s a concern that, if the construction doesn’t begin in November 2012, the stadium may not be ready in time for the 2016 season.

The Minnesota Sports Facilities Authority decided in the wake of a New Jersey lawsuit resulting in a finding of fraud and civil racketeering by owners Zygi and Mark Wilf to investigate the Wilfs.  The Vikings and the Wilfs surely aren’t happy about that.  And the one way they can exert a little leverage is to say, essentially, “Once you decide you can trust us again, we’ll talk.”

Plenty of additional dominoes have to fall before the stadium deal blows up and the Vikings join the Lakers in Los Angeles.  But the chances of that happening are a lot more significant than they were last month at this time, when the possibility of the Vikings leaving was nil.

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  1. reesesteel23 says: Aug 23, 2013 1:06 PM

    It’ll get done….

  2. footballradioshow says: Aug 23, 2013 1:07 PM

    Wouldn’t doubt if that whole thing breaks down. Vikes got LA written all over them. Hope AD is still in te team when they do move to Cali

  3. allday420ap says: Aug 23, 2013 1:07 PM

    There not goin anywhere

  4. kirksav says: Aug 23, 2013 1:07 PM

    “There’s a concern that, if the construction doesn’t begin in November 2012, the stadium may not be ready in time for the 2016 season.”

    A for effort.

  5. Iknoweverything says: Aug 23, 2013 1:08 PM

    Vikings are irrelevent anyway.
    Minor league team in a minor league city.
    Mediocre franchise

  6. bucrightoff says: Aug 23, 2013 1:08 PM

    As Carl Lewis would say “Uh-Oh!”

  7. respectgsh says: Aug 23, 2013 1:08 PM

    I just wanna see them out of that dome, so we get to see them play in the elements, you know, from our couches like nature intended.

  8. redbirdsrising says: Aug 23, 2013 1:08 PM

    “There’s a concern that, if the construction doesn’t begin in November 2012, the stadium may not be ready in time for the 2016 season.”

    Aww shucks, they only have negative 9 months to get this deal done.

  9. 1liondriven says: Aug 23, 2013 1:10 PM

    .
    Scum bag owners…I support the good people of Minneapolis who want these hustling dirt bags out of their state.
    .
    I definitely want them out of the league along with Hasslam.
    .

  10. skoobyfl says: Aug 23, 2013 1:10 PM

    LA Vikings has a ring to it.

  11. johnnyb216 says: Aug 23, 2013 1:10 PM

    L.O.L.!!!!!!

  12. tokyosandblaster says: Aug 23, 2013 1:10 PM

    I’d hate to see the Vikings leave. I enjoy this rivalry, even though not as much as Packers/Bears.

  13. jayniner says: Aug 23, 2013 1:11 PM

    The L.A. Vikings just doesn’t sound right….

  14. doall24 says: Aug 23, 2013 1:11 PM

    the los angeles vikings is starting to sound good right about now.

  15. jimmysee says: Aug 23, 2013 1:12 PM

    Wow.

    Wow again.

    L.A. here they come!

    (I thought we were beyond that.)

  16. contra74 says: Aug 23, 2013 1:13 PM

    Yawn…deals done so get over it. Vikings are staying in MN.

  17. mossnomore says: Aug 23, 2013 1:14 PM

    If the headline makes it sound worse than it really is, why don’t you change the headline.

  18. mn1288 says: Aug 23, 2013 1:15 PM

    As much as I’d hate to see the Vikes leave, this whole thing has become a complete joke. 90% of the people here think the Wilf’s should pick up the majority of this, and I can’t disagree. The ways they wanted to fund this (i.e. electronic pulltabs – who would ever want to play this on an IPad as opposed to going and picking up the paper ones in the corner of the bar) have failed miserably.

    Getting unbelievable…

  19. gdeli says: Aug 23, 2013 1:15 PM

    Can’t we go a single season here without some stupid drama? we are already gonna have enough with ponder and the o.c. saying he isn’t done with webb yet.
    If the vikes and lester aren’t happy that’s on them. If you are a billionaire you need to have class or you end up with tons of $ but being a joke like Donald trump.

  20. axespray says: Aug 23, 2013 1:17 PM

    $250 of “Fake Stock” doesn’t sound too bad now, does it?

    With the Wilfs and Haslams and old Al Davis – I’d rather get “duped” into paying for paper than have to sit through some psycho try to run a team.

  21. allboutstyle says: Aug 23, 2013 1:17 PM

    Damn it all do I hate the Vikings! Even as a Packer fan I hate this news. Until the ink has dried on this new stadium, the Vikings are in jeopardy of being moved to LA. Don’t fool yourselves. The NFL is putting a team there and the Vikes are on a very short list. As much as I dislike the organization and their legions of bandwagon fans; I absolutely love the rivalry with the Packers. The Wilfs should sell the team to Prince and end this crap!

  22. respectgsh says: Aug 23, 2013 1:17 PM

    Just take off the Vi and they will be the L.A. Kings. A team with that name could actually win a championship.

  23. jdubkc says: Aug 23, 2013 1:19 PM

    skoobyfl says: Aug 23, 2013 1:10 PM

    LA Vikings has a ring to it.
    _____________________________

    We have all agreed the most fitting name is the LA Seaman…

  24. goofer11 says: Aug 23, 2013 1:19 PM

    Governor Dayton is a complete idiot….
    First: They took the word of the vendor for Electronic Pulltab estimates.
    Second: They didn’t look into the background of the owners? It was in public records. A simple Google search would have told them about the pending litigation.

    The state is looking for a way to get the team to pay more because they messed up their side of the funding.

    If the Vikings to leave I blame the governor.

  25. abusementland says: Aug 23, 2013 1:19 PM

    Tiki Barber is flabbergasted

  26. sterling7 says: Aug 23, 2013 1:24 PM

    As a Minnesota Viking 4Life since 1968 I can honestly say “There’s always something” with this team, be it players, coaches and owners!!!!!!!

  27. doall24 says: Aug 23, 2013 1:25 PM

    let the vikings move to LA, then find the biggest dump in minnesota, move the team there, and change the name of the new team to the minnesota dumpsters. problem solved.

  28. whatjusthapped says: Aug 23, 2013 1:25 PM

    The Wilf’s committed fraud so it comes as no shock that they would engage in deception again in their business dealings. Look no further than the Forbe’s list of most valuable franchises to see what the Wilf’s are thinking about. The Vikings are way down that list and a potential move to LA would pay off huge for their investment.

    Plus, look at the actions of the owners. They live in NJ and commute to the weekend games. How hard is it to fly a couple of extra hours to get to sunny Southern California? Its not like the Viking fan base has supported them through out the years. 3-M and Pillsbury is getting sick on having the Vikings lean on them to snap up the unsold seats to avoid a blackout.

    Sorry to see them go but LA is much more lucrative.

  29. jimmyt says: Aug 23, 2013 1:25 PM

    While a move to LA for any team would just cost too much to be viable with no one, not the team, not the city, state or any other group wanting to foot the bill if you p*ss off one of these egotistical, fat-cat rich owners enough they may just pack up and move on you. Minni better get their act together or they will lose the team and never get one back.

  30. onlythebest36 says: Aug 23, 2013 1:26 PM

    I’m ready for another roof collapse!!! HaHa

  31. SilentMajority says: Aug 23, 2013 1:27 PM

    Oh, so this is just too rich. You know, you cannot even get student loans, much less grants if you’re convicted of a felony, but watch, these guys will get their billion dollar stadium. Seriously, what’s wrong with this picture?

  32. clayminator says: Aug 23, 2013 1:29 PM

    from the StarTribune…

    “More than 60 percent of respondents in the latest Star Tribune Minnesota Poll said the Vikings should simply keep playing in the Metrodome, the team’s downtown Minneapolis home for 29 years. Nearly three in four said Vikings owner Zygi Wilf should not get taxpayer money for a new stadium.”

    SKROL!

  33. facetooth says: Aug 23, 2013 1:31 PM

    Minnesota Vikings? More like Minnesota Strikings because there are an awful lot of strikingly attractive men on that team.

  34. jimmysee says: Aug 23, 2013 1:32 PM

    So in the end, all that stadium is is a picture.

    It’s obvious that the state does not want to put up the buck$ — and now that the election is over, it has found a way out.

    Call Mitt Romney — he doesn’t have much to do these days — maybe he’ll invest in it.

    He’s the job creator, after all.

  35. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Aug 23, 2013 1:32 PM

    This isn’t going to prevent the stadium deal from getting done and no one is moving anywhere. Nevertheless, I am so tired of this stadium thing taking forever to get done. They first started talking about it in the 90′s. Even a year after the bill was passed and the stadium plans done, we still have to deal with this. This is 100% the fault of the politicians who are trying to use that old lawsuit as an excuse to get a better deal.

  36. thestrategyexpert says: Aug 23, 2013 1:33 PM

    But Wilf’s statement was that this racketeering case would have absolutely no effect on the stadium deal. It seems like the situation has been effected to me.

  37. tellingphatstories says: Aug 23, 2013 1:35 PM

    Maybe instead of investing in a stadium Minnesota should start investing in a weather machine. It’s too cold.

  38. jayniner says: Aug 23, 2013 1:36 PM

    As much as we want football back here in southern California, I’m going to point out the obvious for those that think it’s going to happen next year…

    “There’s a concern that, if the construction doesn’t begin in November 2012, the stadium may not be ready in time for the 2016 season.”
    (I’m sure they meant 2013, Not 2012)

    It’s going to take 3 years to build a stadium, whether in Minnesota or L.A. At least in Minnesota, they have a location and plans in place…..L.A. has squat besides talk and speculation that Chavez Ravine and Anaheim could be used.

    Not only is there no foreseeable location for a football franchise in L.A., but it’ll take another year just to get permits and approvals to build a stadium and that’s assuming a location were to be identified today. On top of that, another 3 years to build. So we’re 4 years out from today.

  39. wilsonwillbreaku says: Aug 23, 2013 1:43 PM

    L.A. Vikings just doesn’t sound right. I like L.A. Schwarzenegger’s better. Make it happen Goodell!

  40. mn1288 says: Aug 23, 2013 1:43 PM

    Rick Spielman is a Magician says:
    Aug 23, 2013 1:32 PM
    This isn’t going to prevent the stadium deal from getting done and no one is moving anywhere. Nevertheless, I am so tired of this stadium thing taking forever to get done. They first started talking about it in the 90′s. Even a year after the bill was passed and the stadium plans done, we still have to deal with this. This is 100% the fault of the politicians who are trying to use that old lawsuit as an excuse to get a better deal.

    ——————————

    Right on…As a Packers fan, it would be awful if the team moved…Would kill the endless banter between both sides that has made it a pretty fun rivalry.

    The politicians really have made this bad, but their biggest mistake was letting the Wilfs off with the big end of the stick.

  41. clemenza58 says: Aug 23, 2013 1:44 PM

    I knew right from the second I clicked on this story that the words “Los Angeles” would appear.

  42. trollaikman8 says: Aug 23, 2013 1:46 PM

    “Stadium talks break off…”

    was that a subtle roof collapse joke?

  43. ejmat2 says: Aug 23, 2013 1:50 PM

    allboutstyle says:
    Aug 23, 2013 1:17 PM
    Damn it all do I hate the Vikings! Even as a Packer fan I hate this news. Until the ink has dried on this new stadium, the Vikings are in jeopardy of being moved to LA. Don’t fool yourselves. The NFL is putting a team there and the Vikes are on a very short list. As much as I dislike the organization and their legions of bandwagon fans; I absolutely love the rivalry with the Packers. The Wilfs should sell the team to Prince and end this crap!
    ——————————————
    Viking fan but that’s funny. LOL

  44. jdubkc says: Aug 23, 2013 1:53 PM

    Oklahoma Homers
    Boise Bald Eagles
    Virginia Vegans
    Nebraska Baldnobbers
    Rhode Island Rockstars

  45. mybrunoblog says: Aug 23, 2013 1:55 PM

    I can’t wait for the day when some team (Vikes, Rams, Jags) eventually move to L.A. So we won’t have to hear “They might be moving to L.A.” anymore.

  46. farvite says: Aug 23, 2013 1:55 PM

    And LA steals another team from Minnesota…

  47. snnistle says: Aug 23, 2013 1:56 PM

    LA? That would be a stupid move for any team. Where are the Chargers, Rams, and Raiders? LA is incapable of keeping an NFL team.

    This is the fault of the moron governor Dayton. The lawsuit was filed 21 years ago. What is the Wilf’s track record since then? If they cannot be trusted, get their share of the money now and keep the stadium plans moving forward.

  48. Carl Gerbschmidt says: Aug 23, 2013 1:58 PM

    Anybody have any thoughts on how they’d
    re-align the divisions if Vikes move to LA?

  49. seals1 says: Aug 23, 2013 1:59 PM

    The City, The State is a joke politically. Hey, ya put crazy eye Dayton behind the wheel and to make things interesting you put a silver spoon rich from day one saturday night live comedian in the senate. As much as I bleed purple I’m starting to hope the City loses them and replaces the area with a larger crack den for drugs and prostitution. I’m sure that will serve the city and state better.

    Next bus out of town sound about right.

  50. mn1288 says: Aug 23, 2013 2:00 PM

    jimmysee says:
    Aug 23, 2013 1:32 PM
    So in the end, all that stadium is is a picture.

    It’s obvious that the state does not want to put up the buck$ — and now that the election is over, it has found a way out.

    Call Mitt Romney — he doesn’t have much to do these days — maybe he’ll invest in it.

    He’s the job creator, after all.

    ——————————

    Mitt Romney is smart enough to know a bad deal when he sees it….Unlike our governor.

  51. dobberdubinsky says: Aug 23, 2013 2:00 PM

    Not worried at all…anyone who thinks the Vikes are moving to LA is either a Packer troll or dilussional.

    Skol

  52. tinbender2000 says: Aug 23, 2013 2:02 PM

    Where’s Goodell fining the Wilfs $10,000,000,000.00 for conduct detrimental to the league? Better yet why isn’t he making them sell the team?

  53. ilovemyringlessfranchise says: Aug 23, 2013 2:04 PM

    Mind-boggling to me how Dayton could possibly not have known about this civil case. I read this morning that Zygi spent 33 days testifying throughout the course of the trial. Didn’t anybody wonder why he was never available for meetings?

  54. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Aug 23, 2013 2:05 PM

    Hey, is it too late to get in on the “LA Vikings” comments? Is that bit still fresh?

  55. muskyhunter2542 says: Aug 23, 2013 2:07 PM

    As a Packer fan all I can say is dont let this happen. As much as I hate the Minnisota fan base this is a very good rivalry and should be for years to come.
    Packers are a great team and the Vikings are a up and coming team with dare I say, potential.
    Would be a shame to move this team elsewhere.

  56. golynxgo says: Aug 23, 2013 2:08 PM

    Meanwhile the Packers have added 7000 seats don’t have to have massive ticket price reductions to sell out and 10′s of thousands of people waiting for season tickets.
    Not to mention 4 Superbowl trophies
    LOL Minnysoda denigrate put down the Packers and their fans for being stupid rubes but we have
    SCOREBOARD

  57. golforepar says: Aug 23, 2013 2:09 PM

    I can think of one way to save. No need to waste any money building a trophy cabinet!

  58. MyTeamsAllStink says: Aug 23, 2013 2:10 PM

    the Raiders and Vikings can share the new stadium in LA.

  59. harrisonhits2 says: Aug 23, 2013 2:10 PM

    No public welfare for billionaires. Let the Wilfs build their own stadium the way the Krafts did.

  60. clayminator says: Aug 23, 2013 2:12 PM

    I certainly do not want the Vikings to move….just get a new stadium built asap! The Humpty Dump is…well…a dump!

    NFC North is the best division in football….rich traditions, close proximity, great fans!

    GO PACK!!!!!

  61. muskyhunter2542 says: Aug 23, 2013 2:12 PM

    So Vikings fans… Just a serous question. If the Vikings move, would you stay a L.A. Vikings fan? Or would you swich to the dark side and watch The Evil Empire of the Green Bay Packers just to get your fix of NFL Football?

    Be honest…

  62. fwippel says: Aug 23, 2013 2:13 PM

    They aren’t moving to Los Angeles. Any suggestion that they are is either wishful thinking on someone’s part, or a move to try to scare the Twin Cities into believing that they will lose the team.

    Neither is going to happen.

  63. threedeep1998 says: Aug 23, 2013 2:20 PM

    State of MN roughly has 5.5 million people living here. If everyone chips in a dollar or two we’ll be ok right? :)

    For real though: Get this done and over with.

  64. r8rsfan says: Aug 23, 2013 2:22 PM

    Los Angeles Vikings of Compton

  65. purpleguy says: Aug 23, 2013 2:26 PM

    For the bazillionth time, the bill was formally passed into law August 1, 2013, and the legislative funding and initial bond payments have already been made. The negotiations were continued, as expected, pending the Wilf audit which change nothing yet give politicians a chance to blather. The stadium originally was going to be fast-tracked to a 2015 opener — there’s plenty of time.

  66. beedubyatoo says: Aug 23, 2013 2:28 PM

    If Gov. Dayton is the problem, just move the team across the river into Wisconsin. No unionization problems during the construction with the WI gov.

    Both the Hudson Vikings and the Menominee Vikings have a certain esoteric ring to it.

  67. monkeyhateclean says: Aug 23, 2013 2:28 PM

    Why not just move the Vikings to Seattle? Think of the savings on gas money when all their players become Seahawks.

  68. longcutskolvikes says: Aug 23, 2013 2:30 PM

    Honestly, this is sensationalist crap. The deal is done. The Vikes are not moving.

  69. muskyhunter2542 says: Aug 23, 2013 2:37 PM

    You may think so!!!! What if your wrong though?

  70. jrmbadger says: Aug 23, 2013 2:40 PM

    beedubyatoo says: Aug 23, 2013 2:28 PM

    If Gov. Dayton is the problem, just move the team across the river into Wisconsin. No unionization problems during the construction with the WI gov.

    Both the Hudson Vikings and the Menominee Vikings have a certain esoteric ring to it.
    ============================

    haha… that would be funny. The Wisconsin Governor could even get his BFFs the Koch boys to throw in some of the money for the stadium…. heck, who am I kiddin’ billionares don’t buy things out of their own pocket, they get the taxpayers to buy it for them!

  71. muskyhunter2542 says: Aug 23, 2013 2:41 PM

    jayniner says:
    Aug 23, 2013 1:36 PM
    As much as we want football back here in southern California, I’m going to point out the obvious for those that think it’s going to happen next year…

    “There’s a concern that, if the construction doesn’t begin in November 2012, the stadium may not be ready in time for the 2016 season.”
    (I’m sure they meant 2013, Not 2012)

    It’s going to take 3 years to build a stadium, whether in Minnesota or L.A. At least in Minnesota, they have a location and plans in place…..L.A. has squat besides talk and speculation that Chavez Ravine and Anaheim could be used.

    Not only is there no foreseeable location for a football franchise in L.A., but it’ll take another year just to get permits and approvals to build a stadium and that’s assuming a location were to be identified today. On top of that, another 3 years to build. So we’re 4 years out from today.

    _____________________

    Malibu or Long Beach

  72. nflpoker says: Aug 23, 2013 2:44 PM

    The Wilfs have only themselves to blame.

  73. taskforcefreddy says: Aug 23, 2013 2:46 PM

    As a packer fan, I sincerely hope this doesn’t happen but for those that think that this isn’t in the realm of being possible, you’re fooling yourself. Roger Goodell (and the rest of the owners) is finger tapping as we speak because the amount of revenue a team in LA would produce as opposed to the TC’s.

    The plan that has been generated at the league office includes adding a new team to the AFC West from another division and right now the division that makes the most sense is the NFC North because the league would then transfer Kansas City to the NFC North thus evening out the divisions.

    Remember, at the end of the day it’s all about the Benjamin’s and if this stadium agreement falls through, it doesn’t bode well for the fans of the Minnesota Vikings.

  74. ruvelligwebuike says: Aug 23, 2013 2:47 PM

    As Minnesotans have pointed out ad nauseum since the beginnning of time, this doesn’t matter. They don’t need football. They have parks, colleges, museums, art…you name it!

    No other state in the union has a theatre or a park in the city. No one. Especially those hicks from Wisconsin. This is why they are superior to everyone else.

    Now if you will excuse them, they have to sell their playoff ticket to an Eagles fan because um…um….they will be at the Guthrie at noon?

  75. taskforcefreddy says: Aug 23, 2013 2:50 PM

    And does anyone else find humor in the fact that with as much bickering that goes on between GB fans and Viking fans that the only thing both sides can agree on is that NEITHER fan base wants the Vikings to move?

  76. Land of Sky Blue Water says: Aug 23, 2013 2:51 PM

    Rick Spielman is a Magician says:Aug 23, 2013 1:32 PM

    This isn’t going to prevent the stadium deal from getting done and no one is moving anywhere. Nevertheless, I am so tired of this stadium thing taking forever to get done. They first started talking about it in the 90′s. Even a year after the bill was passed and the stadium plans done, we still have to deal with this. This is 100% the fault of the politicians who are trying to use that old lawsuit as an excuse to get a better deal.
    ——-

    No kidding. I can’t think of any fans who have had to put up with as much as Vike fans. Between the Group of 10, McCombsy, Denny Green, Stadium Collapse. It’s certainly been a long road, but we stand true and still wear the purple! With Pride! SKOL!

  77. jumpball81td says: Aug 23, 2013 2:55 PM

    Bears-Rams NFC North rivals?

  78. jcphitman says: Aug 23, 2013 2:57 PM

    I was really worried when the stadium was in legislation. However, it’s now a game of cat and mouse. Dayton tries to look good for the people of MN for re-election down the road. The Wilfs on the other side are being dumped on and are trying to look out for themselves. In the end, the investigation will happen, all will be clean, and the deal gets done. It’s already been passed, the moneys is guaranteed and there, and we move on. The Wilfs haven’t done anything negative with the Vikings. Their personal dealings are their own business. It has no influence on the Vikings or the stadium, which has NFL money/backing. I’m not going to worry on this one. The teams stays in MN and we move on! God willing, all will be fine!

  79. beerbratscheese says: Aug 23, 2013 2:58 PM

    skoobyfl says: Aug 23, 2013 1:10 PM

    LA Vikings has a ring to it.
    //////////////////////////

    Cuz we all know there’s no rings in Minnesota. Ba-dum-dum.

    Thanks you, I’ll be here all week.

  80. nflpoker says: Aug 23, 2013 3:01 PM

    muskyhunter2542 says:
    Aug 23, 2013 2:12 PM
    So Vikings fans… Just a serous question. If the Vikings move, would you stay a L.A. Vikings fan? Or would you swich to the dark side and watch The Evil Empire of the Green Bay Packers just to get your fix of NFL Football?

    Be honest…
    _——————————————
    They are not going to move. But to be honest, I would not be a fan of the Vikings in LA. However, I would still be a fan of AD.

  81. kane337 says: Aug 23, 2013 3:02 PM

    SkLOL

  82. captaincanoe says: Aug 23, 2013 3:04 PM

    Viking to LA. Rams to NFC North. Rename the North back to NFC Central anything I missed?.

  83. heimerz says: Aug 23, 2013 3:05 PM

    LA Vikings! Hurrrr Deee Durrr! Tehs is a funy jok I lik to mak ovr and ovr!

  84. dragonfly99 says: Aug 23, 2013 3:19 PM

    Very simple solution. Have Goodell convince the Wilfs to sell the Vikings to a local ownership group. Then the Minnesota Sports Authority has a group they can trust, the taxpayers would have a local group to support, the stadium can be built, and the Vikings can stay put.

  85. fargovikesfan says: Aug 23, 2013 3:20 PM

    Dayton is the biggest tool in Minnesota. he’s a spineless little weasel that has made a career out of playing both sides of the fence on pretty much every issue. He’s acting like the deal with the Wilfs is something new in order to look tough and that he’s “standing for the people of MN”, the act in question happened 20 YEARS AGO!!!

    what a douche…

  86. vikingfan1971 says: Aug 23, 2013 3:26 PM

    I have been reading alot of fans saying oakland raiders need to come home, so enough about the vikings going to LA.
    I googled nfl and LA stadium news and all its about is having oakland coming back
    so like I said earlier
    enough about LA VIKINGS

  87. Dogsweat says: Aug 23, 2013 3:26 PM

    Repeat: The NFC team hat will relocate to L.A. is the Rams, it is already in the plans by 2015 maybe sooner.

    If the Vikings can’t get a venue in Minneapolis, Toronto or San Antonio are the open options, with venues ready for business.

    *********************************************

    Unless the Vikings move to the AFC , that is the only way they could go to L.A.

    They would have to switch to the AFC West and switch with Kansas City which is closer to the North and is a Midwest city— than any other AFC West team.

    AFC West

    Raiders
    Vikings
    Denver
    San Diego

    NFC North

    Chicago
    Green Bay
    Detroit
    Kansas City

  88. deeppurple23 says: Aug 23, 2013 3:29 PM

    The NFL already conducted an investigation prior to the purchase of the Vikings. This is old old old news, like 25 years ago old. Gov Dayton, get over your self importance and move on. What a waste… #donewithgovt

  89. redcorn2013 says: Aug 23, 2013 3:30 PM

    Vikings are staying in Minny but should be playing outside. Moving in the metrodome was worst move in franchise history, losing the mystique that captured their early following. The current stadium design looks like a cross between a Kleenex box and the Crystal Cathedral, not where the Vikings play. The designers should have listened to fans and made stadium look like a Viking ship. Opportunity lost!

  90. aldante66 says: Aug 23, 2013 3:31 PM

    Ziggy just wants a stadium so the Vikes value goes up then he can dump the team and move on. This guy has had 50 chances to blow on Minnesota and move on since his current stadium deal ends this year and he has zero ties that bind him.

    I think if LA actually had a stadium or a plan in place then maybe buy were talking wannabe owners in LA, with no land, no deal, no guarantee of a team.

  91. snoop24 says: Aug 23, 2013 3:34 PM

    muskyhunter2542 says:
    Aug 23, 2013 2:12 PM
    So Vikings fans… Just a serous question. If the Vikings move, would you stay a L.A. Vikings fan? Or would you swich to the dark side and watch The Evil Empire of the Green Bay Packers just to get your fix of NFL Football?

    Be honest…

    ____________________________________

    BEARS

  92. deltaoracle says: Aug 23, 2013 3:38 PM

    Most teams build and then have racket inside their stadium. Mini has racketeering before the construction. They have the Hump, I guess the new one can be the Condom(e) – sign over naming rights to Trojan. Skore!

  93. filthymcnasty1 says: Aug 23, 2013 3:43 PM

    All this ruckus just because Viking fans are so cheap.

  94. ruvelligwebuike says: Aug 23, 2013 3:46 PM

    Let’s be honest. When you have Mall of America, a statue of Paul Bunyan, and the venerable Gopher football program, NFL football really doesn’t seem that important.

  95. filthymcnasty1 says: Aug 23, 2013 3:48 PM

    It sounds like they might have turned up some dirt on Zygi.

  96. darkneptune73 says: Aug 23, 2013 3:50 PM

    Tokyosandblaster just said a positive comment about the Vikings. Am I dreaming? WOW…

  97. filthymcnasty1 says: Aug 23, 2013 4:04 PM

    I can’t even imagine the shame and embarrassment that Viking fans are suffering over this.

  98. InFact says: Aug 23, 2013 4:34 PM

    Mike,

    Worst that happens: Another season in the winter on the frozen rug at U of M……Let Wilfie shake in his Nanook Boots a little more.

    BTW, stadium maintenance workers have tried for months to remove evidence of Favre’s final concussive denting of the rug on his inglorious fateful last sack.

    Nothing works.

    Its kismet paying Favre back for his faux-pass that allowed Strahan a free, record-seting sack.

  99. kmartinson says: Aug 23, 2013 4:36 PM

    Get it done already….according to Greg Jennings this has something to do with Aaron Rodgers not giving him a juice box.

  100. frozeninfear says: Aug 23, 2013 4:48 PM

    The one thing you cannot do Zygi and Mark, the one thing you cannot do is blame yourselves.

  101. calmincali says: Aug 23, 2013 4:56 PM

    jayniner says:
    Aug 23, 2013 1:36 PM
    As much as we want football back here in southern California, I’m going to point out the obvious for those that think it’s going to happen next year…

    “There’s a concern that, if the construction doesn’t begin in November 2012, the stadium may not be ready in time for the 2016 season.”
    (I’m sure they meant 2013, Not 2012)

    It’s going to take 3 years to build a stadium, whether in Minnesota or L.A. At least in Minnesota, they have a location and plans in place…..L.A. has squat besides talk and speculation that Chavez Ravine and Anaheim could be used.

    Not only is there no foreseeable location for a football franchise in L.A., but it’ll take another year just to get permits and approvals to build a stadium and that’s assuming a location were to be identified today. On top of that, another 3 years to build. So we’re 4 years out from today.
    _________________

    Roski still has his location in Industry with the environmental impact waived does he not?

    The downtown “Farmer’s” plan makes no sense IMO, but Roski owns the land in Industry, has a plan in place and is just waiting for the go ahead to break ground. Finding a temporary home for the team really shouldn’t be all that hard.

  102. donth8thehorns says: Aug 23, 2013 4:57 PM

    0% chance this falls apart, unless the Wilfs have frauded the state, which is unlikely

  103. jeremycrowhurst says: Aug 23, 2013 5:14 PM

    The Vikings have been threatening to move to L.A. since 1978, I think including during the time that the Raiders and Rams were there.

    I’ll believe it when I see it.

  104. stellarperformance says: Aug 23, 2013 5:17 PM

    The contract investigators saw something they didn’t quite like and sent over a battery of questions to the man-on-the-hill (Wilf) for clarification, and he thought “Damn. Caught.”

    His only alternative is to make the investigators, the fans, the governor, the citizens of Minnesota, and anybody else that stands in his way…..to look as though THEY are the bad guys. He’ll play it out in the press to deflect attention from himself.

  105. 1bigtex says: Aug 23, 2013 5:42 PM

    People bag on Jerry Jones, but Jones was able to partner with the seventh largest city in the State of Texas and get arguably the finest sports stadium in the world built. Meanwhile, the whole State of Minnesota can’t get off square one.

  106. jprcox says: Aug 23, 2013 5:48 PM

    I am not a Viking’s fan, but the idea the Vikes could move to LA is nearly impossible. They are a well supported team, and there is a blimp with the ownership/stadium which will resolve itself. Moving to LA wouldn’t be smart – LA has lost teams in the past for light support.

    Raiders didn’t return home to Oakland for sentimental reasons I promise.

  107. bresilhac says: Aug 23, 2013 5:51 PM

    The San Antonio Vikings. It’s inevitable…

  108. briang123 says: Aug 23, 2013 5:57 PM

    There’s a concern that, if the construction doesn’t begin in November 2012, the stadium may not be ready in time for the 2016 season.
    _____________________________________

    Quick, someone call Dr. Brown and borrow the DeLorean

  109. jredshoes says: Aug 23, 2013 6:02 PM

    Two things I’ve surmised from all this is Dayton must be a democrat because he seems like a weasel and Dogsweat is hallucinating if he thinks KC (an original AFL team) would ever switch to the NFC.

  110. upperdecker19 says: Aug 23, 2013 6:10 PM

    As an L.A. guy here, I can tell you without a doubt that 90%+ of the population here could care less if we get a team. It’d be neat, I guess. But don’t really care.

    Now London…..that and Roger’s love affair with the possibility of regular Euro NFL games are your problem Minnesota.

  111. badgerbuck says: Aug 23, 2013 6:34 PM

    Would people in Minnesota really miss the vikings if they left?

  112. Dolphins Nation says: Aug 23, 2013 6:34 PM

    Where there is smoke, there is fire.

  113. filthymcnasty1 says: Aug 23, 2013 6:45 PM

    It makes you wonder about that home game they’re playing in London. Why on earth would they want to come back to hapless, tasteless MN after that?

  114. teamnorsecore says: Aug 23, 2013 6:50 PM

    taskforcefreddy says:
    Aug 23, 2013 2:46 PM
    As a packer fan, I sincerely hope this doesn’t happen but for those that think that this isn’t in the realm of being possible, you’re fooling yourself. Roger Goodell (and the rest of the owners) is finger tapping as we speak because the amount of revenue a team in LA would produce as opposed to the TC’s.

    The plan that has been generated at the league office includes adding a new team to the AFC West from another division and right now the division that makes the most sense is the NFC North because the league would then transfer Kansas City to the NFC North thus evening out the divisions.

    Remember, at the end of the day it’s all about the Benjamin’s and if this stadium agreement falls through, it doesn’t bode well for the fans of the Minnesota Vikings.
    ………..
    I love how you talk like you are an insider at the NFL meetings……even knowing re-alignment plans. LOL……L.A. has had MULTIPLE chances to support an NFL team over the years and has FAILED every time. How would L.A. produce more revenue than Minnesota? Because they would sell out a season of games because its NEW and EXCITING…..only to have the fans lose interest as has happened every time in the past out there? The Vikings have had top 10 attendance numbers in the league since their first year, 1961. The stadium bill has been signed INTO LAW in Minnesota already. All this is, is political posturing and Dayton is trying to impress the pundits for re-election coming up.

  115. 84smooninlambeaunevergetsold says: Aug 23, 2013 6:50 PM

    Dayton is using this to make himself look better for his failed, terrible funding idea. The stadium is going to be built. They are just dotting i’s, and crossing t’s.

    But if they wanna cut costs, and get it done faster. Then forget putting the roof on it. That won’t happen, but it would be sweet.

  116. teamnorsecore says: Aug 23, 2013 6:52 PM

    bresilhac says:
    Aug 23, 2013 5:51 PM
    The San Antonio Vikings. It’s inevitable…
    ………..
    It didn’t happen why San Antionio’s own Red McCombs was the owner……….why would it now? Just stop.

  117. mwatts1 says: Aug 23, 2013 7:06 PM

    The team won’t move to LA because the “fans” there are all fair weather. If the team isn’t good no one will go to the games. LA had it’s chance with the Rams and Raiders, both teams moved.

    Yea, lets move a team to LA… ha!

  118. pack13queens0 says: Aug 23, 2013 7:08 PM

    I hope this deal falls apart. The Vikings are the only team in the NFL without a season-ticket waiting list so moving them to LA only makes sense. Minnesota has the worst NFL fans, LA will support them 100%.

  119. upperdecker19 says: Aug 23, 2013 7:18 PM

    @teamnorsecore says

    You miss the point completely. Owners can care less about attendance. It’s a drop in the bucket as it relates to their bottom line. The Dodgers were a mess and sold for $2 billion+. Within a year, they lock up a $8+ billion local TV deal (more than the Yankees).

    No one is paying 4 times the franchise value for TV rights for a team in Minnesota??? Not to mention big money advertisers.

    Big money is in the big markets gang. Regardless of fan loyalty, attendance, etc. Is it fair? No. Is it reality? Absolutely.

    We in LA will wait and watch as the big spenders do their thing. Not attend games until the team wins. Then riot and tear the city down when they do win (i.e. see any Lakers’ championship run).

  120. bnwpnw says: Aug 23, 2013 7:44 PM

    Shady business dealings from the Poison Pill crew? Shocking!

    So when does the NFL / Godell bother to get tough on white-collar crime?

  121. camdenyard says: Aug 23, 2013 8:08 PM

    This is like Lucy pulling the football away from Charlie Brown. Again and again.

  122. teamnorsecore says: Aug 23, 2013 8:32 PM

    upperdecker19 says:
    Aug 23, 2013 7:18 PM
    @teamnorsecore says

    You miss the point completely. Owners can care less about attendance. It’s a drop in the bucket as it relates to their bottom line. The Dodgers were a mess and sold for $2 billion+. Within a year, they lock up a $8+ billion local TV deal (more than the Yankees).

    No one is paying 4 times the franchise value for TV rights for a team in Minnesota??? Not to mention big money advertisers.

    Big money is in the big markets gang. Regardless of fan loyalty, attendance, etc. Is it fair? No. Is it reality? Absolutely.

    We in LA will wait and watch as the big spenders do their thing. Not attend games until the team wins. Then riot and tear the city down when they do win (i.e. see any Lakers’ championship run).
    ………..
    There are more likely movers than the Vikings….and you know this. San Diego for instance makes perfect sense. The Vikings have top 5 TV ratings as well right now. They are going no where.

  123. filthymcnasty1 says: Aug 23, 2013 10:19 PM

    It’s difficult for them to justify spending that kind of money on their minor league football team given their minimum wage fan base.

  124. i10east says: Aug 24, 2013 12:14 AM

    The LA (football) Kings perhaps???

  125. 1bigtex says: Aug 24, 2013 2:28 PM

    Love the folks who gave me a “thumbs down”. Spend much time with your heads in the sand?

  126. dtrb10 says: Aug 24, 2013 2:53 PM

    Zygi and Mark Wilf have told fans that the civil lawsuit against them will have “absolutely no impact” on the new $975 million stadium project. The Star Tribune says Vikings spokesman Lester Bagley on Friday said, “We remain confident that the stadium project will be completed as planned and on schedule.”

    In fact, late Friday, Jeff Anderson, the team’s director of corporate communications, took to posting on Vikings.com that “Rest assured Vikings fans, the new home for Vikings football remains on time and on budget.”

  127. dtrb10 says: Aug 24, 2013 2:54 PM

    Sorry haters!

    SKIZOL!

  128. larry1957 says: Aug 25, 2013 2:53 PM

    There have been 6-7 deals that the Vikings have had in the last 15 years, that have all been shot DEAD. This new deal seemed promising. But alas, guess what, this new stadium might not be dealt after all. Money from the sale of “Electronic Pull Tabs” have basically been pennies not dollars. Last week, the State of Minnesota had cigarettes in a warehouse to sell after the Cigarette tax hike that took effect July 1st. This money accounts for $30 million to go to the new stadium. They still have to come up with the money to improve TCF Bank Stadium. 8000 more seats, heating coils under the turf, alcohol sales, advertising etc. Until I see the groundbreaking, I’ll believe it.

  129. zygizag says: Aug 26, 2013 12:06 AM

    Can Zygi pay his share? Of course he can. I would not be surprised if the amount he will get for naming rights to the stadium covers his most, if not all of “his” cost.

  130. vikesindividual says: Aug 27, 2013 11:49 PM

    as a Vikings fan who lives no where CLOSE to Minnesota or California, i say LET ‘EM MOVE!!!

    i’m never visiting Minneapolis, but i absolutely would visit sunny L.A. i could care less what comes before the word “Vikings”.

    no offense, Minnesotans.

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