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Packers’ rookie running backs total -4 yards on 12 carries

O'Brien Schofield, Eddie Lacy AP

Packers rookie running backs Eddie Lacy and Johnathan Franklin had about as rough a night as it gets in Friday’s preseason game against the Seahawks.

The first time Lacy got the ball, he went for 11 yards, but it was called back by a holding penalty. After that, these were the gains on the rest of his runs: 3, 2, 1, 0, 0, -3, -2, -6. That’s a total of negative five yards on eight carries. That’s not good.

And Franklin wasn’t good, either. Franklin gained a total of one yard, rushing for 3, -7, 3 and 2 yards the four times he got the ball.

The Packers’ offensive line wasn’t opening many holes for Lacy or Franklin, or for DuJuan Harris, who started the game but gained just two yards on three carries before exiting with a knee injury.

Alex Green had a 31-yard gain in the fourth quarter, but other than that one run, the Packers looked like a team that has to be concerned about its running game heading into the regular season.

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  1. tokyosandblaster says: Aug 24, 2013 9:44 AM

    True. Were they playing with any credible threat at QB?

  2. billhicks666 says: Aug 24, 2013 9:44 AM

    The Packers O-Line has to be the biggest concern on that team. Obviously, the run blocking left a lot to be desired last night – although they were playing a tough defense – and Aaron Rodgers will likely be running for his life much of the time. It’s disappointing because I am a Packers fan, much more so than the Vikings or Bears, anyway.

  3. vfan76 says: Aug 24, 2013 9:44 AM

    These are the same two guys that you Packers fans were saying are going to be the best ever and comparing them to AP right…. You must have been thinking of the old Bears AP I guess.

  4. covvb0y says: Aug 24, 2013 9:47 AM

    For starters, they have the wrong back starting. Secondly, they should be in the I the majority of the time. 12 carries isn’t committing to the run. The offense last night looked like the Cowboys. Throwing it 40 to 50 times, won’t win consistently.

  5. moeman79 says: Aug 24, 2013 9:47 AM

    What happened? Last week media made it sound like the second coming of Payton.

  6. reesesteel23 says: Aug 24, 2013 9:47 AM

    The O-line blows….Aaron is going to get eaten alive by the rest of the NFC North’s defensive lines. No wonder they’re more worried about the backup QB job than any other position…

  7. esotericmindguy says: Aug 24, 2013 9:50 AM

    If you watched the game you would have noticed that Rodgers played only one series. Not fair to judge the running game with Graham Harrell as QB, he won’t even be on the active roster. It was Seattle’s first team defense vs. the packers second team offense, not surprised by the outcome.

  8. mikejonesforum says: Aug 24, 2013 9:50 AM

    Give the Seahawks defense credit. They held a defensive clinic on run stop.

  9. ickky says: Aug 24, 2013 9:51 AM

    Yeah, drafting 2 backs when you are sporting the worst O line in the league is a good idea.

  10. thepvyharvin says: Aug 24, 2013 9:51 AM

    Packers Oline is the worst in the league. Their rb’s will be busts even though the Lombardi Losers think Lacy is great. He is more like The Fridge than Earl Campbell. The Vikings D is fierce this year. Pack going nowhere….

  11. sampsonswag01 says: Aug 24, 2013 9:51 AM

    It’s pre-season…..I mean…we’re talking about pre-season..not games…pre-season………..

    But, no, really…………..that’s horrible.

  12. vikingsgohard says: Aug 24, 2013 9:51 AM

    He’s gonna light up in the regular season #ROY you heard it here first!!! Lmao

  13. t8ertot says: Aug 24, 2013 9:51 AM

    He’s too fat

  14. ibavikingfanib says: Aug 24, 2013 9:53 AM

    Superbowl!

  15. 84smooninlambeaunevergetsold says: Aug 24, 2013 9:55 AM

    Lacy didn’t even get to 0??? Nice. I love how all of GB thinks he is the answer. The one you’ve all been waiting for.

    Just proves once again that most of the Packer fan base has intimate knowledge of what varnish smells like out of a coffee can.

    Go Pack go!

  16. uwsptke says: Aug 24, 2013 9:55 AM

    Yes, they should be very concerned if all five projected starters on the offensive line, Rodgers, Nelson and Cobb aren’t on the field, which was the case when Lacy and Franklin were getting handoffs last night.

  17. offthelows says: Aug 24, 2013 9:56 AM

    the line did very little. if it wasn’t for John Lotulelei getting a late hit penalty on a big loss, I think that running total would’ve been even worse. Once Rodgers exited, the team could only move the ball on Seattle’s 180 yards of penalties and Vince Young’s scrambling.. the last 2 weeks either the Seahawks have gotten the short straw on refs looking to make flag throwing quotas or they have a lot to clean up before week 1. That’s how you kill drives and look ineffective needing 15-20 yards to make first downs.

  18. bstarrkicksfavresass says: Aug 24, 2013 9:57 AM

    Wake me up when the games count.

  19. GenXJay says: Aug 24, 2013 9:57 AM

    No comment on gb rbs.
    Just a plural lolz!

  20. atthemurph says: Aug 24, 2013 10:01 AM

    Seattle ran 8 and 9 in the box against Graham Harrell. Where Rodgers dropped to pass 8 or the 10 plays on his first drive Harrell continued to hand off v. a stacked front.

  21. bigbenownsthenfl says: Aug 24, 2013 10:02 AM

    theres a reason the steelers passed on lacy.. never doubt the best front office decisions!! EVER!!!

  22. buhbay1c says: Aug 24, 2013 10:04 AM

    How about that Turbin guy running the ball for SEA? He looked sharp. I wish my Vikings had a RB as good as him.

  23. claymaker says: Aug 24, 2013 10:06 AM

    it wasn’t Packers second string offense vs Seahawks first. It was Packers first string minus Rodgers vs Seahawks first. Line didn’t get any push against a very stout line. Granted the schemes were not used or zone blocking but much work is still needed

  24. beastmode5150 says: Aug 24, 2013 10:08 AM

    Heyeso, the hawks were without 4 starters for the game in the front 7. Also , 3 of that front 7 we had out there, were undrafted.

  25. roadbiscuit says: Aug 24, 2013 10:08 AM

    So on the same front page, “AARON RODGERS GOES JUST ONE SERIES FOR GREEN BAY”

    Seattle’s run D is pretty awesome, but I’d guess they felt extra good in their 8 man front with Harrell at QB.

  26. cuda1234 says: Aug 24, 2013 10:08 AM

    Tebowesque!

  27. thechosenone51 says: Aug 24, 2013 10:11 AM

    wait a second… The same rookie running backs that i have been told by the cheese heads for months are the second coming of lord baby jesus? As long as there line looks like it does, if doesn’t matter if they have marshawn lynch, or samkon gado at back. They are doomed to mediocrity in the running game.

  28. blackhawks2010 says: Aug 24, 2013 10:11 AM

    It’s going to be a long season in Green Bay this year. No running game, oline looks actually worse than last year if that is possible, and defense lets everyone run on them.
    Only bright spot is Rodgers. The power shift has already happened, the Pack will be fighting for .500, sorry Packers fans. Time to retool and build for the future, you had a great run.

  29. filthymcnasty1 says: Aug 24, 2013 10:12 AM

    Nice tune up. The Packers look ready to beat up on the hapless and tasteless Vikings and Bears, just like they have twice per season for each of the past 3 years.

  30. themostlogicalofvoices says: Aug 24, 2013 10:12 AM

    You can judge absolutely nothing about GBs running attack from that game last night. Rodgers played 1 series and I think they handed the ball off 1 time on that series. After that it was Harrell in at QB and SEA dared him to throw the ball and he couldn’t. I don’t care what team you are. When the defense has more defenders at the LOS than the offense has players to block the running game will be ineffective.

    The bigger takeaway from this game is the fact that Seattles #1s on offense and defense played Green Bays #2s to a 3-3 tie going halfway into the 3rd quarter. Seattle is NOT as good as their fans would have you believe. They are going to get absolutely rocked by San Fran this year and be in a fight for 2nd in the NFC west.

  31. packerenglishmajor says: Aug 24, 2013 10:12 AM

    How about some love for Finley?

    I mean, he didn’t treat every incoming ball like a naked leper.

    Team is lookin’ good.
    Run game?
    We don’t need no stinkin’ run game.

  32. garryvike says: Aug 24, 2013 10:14 AM

    The reason the Cheese head RB’s did not do well is because A-Rog did not want them too. He wants to maintain his QB stats, if they have a running game he will be a average stat QB.
    I would take Eli or Big Ben any day over A-Rog.

  33. txpackfan52 says: Aug 24, 2013 10:15 AM

    Hard to really tell anything about their performance in thst game. There was a complete lack of a pass game while they were in. Neither team impressed a whole lot. Then again, it’s preseason. I did like the defensive play by the Packers “soft” defense.

  34. aaronfraudgers says: Aug 24, 2013 10:15 AM

    Doesn’t matter! Even without an o-line, running game, or defense, the Packers are still gonna win the Super Bowl baby! I love cheese! GO PACK GO

  35. esotericmindguy says: Aug 24, 2013 10:16 AM

    I do love all the insecure viking fans on here. Lacy will be fine, not AP but a definite improvement. Can’t judge his runs when Harrell is the qb and they had 8 men in the box vs. GB’s second string offensive line.

    Vegas tends to know what they’re doing. Over/Under on vikings is 7.5 and the packers 10.5. Billion dollar hotels are built by delusional fanatics.

  36. faultylogic29 says: Aug 24, 2013 10:17 AM

    This should be an article about the O-Line, not the running backs. Lacy was getting hit before he had a chance to take a step on most of his touches. Harrell also left him out to dry on backward passes twice (see -6 yard run). He actually did well on one to make sure to secure the ball and not turn it over. It’s pretty unfair to blame the backs for this game.

    The O-Line was terrible last night. As were the qbs not named Rodgers or Young. Seattle has a good D, but based on last night, this line is going to get beat up against good teams. Hopefully they’ll improve as the year goes on.

  37. isphet71 says: Aug 24, 2013 10:17 AM

    As a Lions fan, I wish I could take solace in the fact that the Lions don’t have the worst O line in the NFC North.

    But it’s hard to get past the Rodgers vs. Stafford comparison, and I am a Stafford fan and glad to have him as the Lions’ QB.

    GB will be fine. I hope they AREN’T, but they will be.

  38. wholelottaawesome says: Aug 24, 2013 10:17 AM

    Come on! It had nothing to do with Graham Harrel. The STARTING O LINE for Green Bay was tough in pass but terrible in rushing situations. Typical for a team wii hasn’t run the ball in 4 seasons. Seattle d was pretty tough up front though.

  39. squared80 says: Aug 24, 2013 10:20 AM

    *yawn*

    Doesn’t mean anything, but don’t kid yourselves. This is a passing team on 1st/2nd/3rd. They don’t have the O-Line to run the ball if they wanted to.

  40. thepdiddy says: Aug 24, 2013 10:20 AM

    Rodgers played one series and then it was the backups along the line along the line. The Seahawks played starters into the 3rd quarter. Russell Wilson also threw two interceptions with most of the Packers starters sitting the bench.

  41. kuba1976 says: Aug 24, 2013 10:21 AM

    The headline should be Seattle first team offense could only score 3 points through 3 quarters on the packers second and third team defense! Here’s another… Russell Wilson could only manage 3 point and 2 int’s through 3 quarter against the packers reserves!

  42. 84smooninlambeaunevergetsold says: Aug 24, 2013 10:27 AM

    I know its just preseason, but I mean, he didn’t even get to 0. Not like 8, or 10 yards, he didn’t even get 0 yards. Wow.

  43. finley88thebeast says: Aug 24, 2013 10:28 AM

    Wake me up when the games matter….or when the queens win something worth taking about…how many super bowl rings to you guys have again?…I always seem to forget….Go Packers

  44. gohawks89 says: Aug 24, 2013 10:31 AM

    all i know is Aaron needs to shave that stash…
    he looks like a bad 70s porn star…
    its kinda disturbing…..

  45. seatownballers says: Aug 24, 2013 10:32 AM

    Mostlogicalofvoices-

    Thanks for pointing out hawks weaknesses. Next time you should look at how many of our starters didn’t even suit up. That was our second squad. Seattle is looking forward to the week 2 match up

  46. osiris33 says: Aug 24, 2013 10:33 AM

    Worst officiating I’ve seen since Super Bowl XL. — sincerely, Mike Holmgren

    Christine Michael is better than all the Packers backs put together. And he’s Seattle’s 3rd stringer. And his name is Christine.

  47. calloustongue says: Aug 24, 2013 10:35 AM

    You gotta love all the preseason hype when the rest of the NFC North thinks they are relevant. How cute.

    Packers haven’t had a 1000 yard rusher the last 3 seasons. 2010: Superbowl 2011: 15-1 2012: 11-5

    Yeah we are really worried about the Vikings, and that joke they have at QB. I’ll take a elite QB over elite RB ALL DAY!

  48. calvinhobbes5000 says: Aug 24, 2013 10:38 AM

    Lacy will be fine. The Packers pulled their starters after one series, while the Seahawks left their starting defense in into the third quarter. The fact that the Packers second-stringers struggled against one of the best starting defenses in the league isn’t really a reason to press the panic button.

  49. GenXJay says: Aug 24, 2013 10:39 AM

    what does the excuse of having ShAaron in have to do w/evaluating the run game last night? Absolutely nothing. #12 plays Qb. (& to think u packer backers are the most knowledgeable fans in football).

    packerenglishmajor: if you think you do not require a running game, then why oh why did tt draft 2, TWO, rb’s?

  50. islandgechee says: Aug 24, 2013 10:39 AM

    The Carolina Panthers have a log jam at RB and are dying for some viable receivers for Cam…. trade for Johnathan Stewart yes I know he’s a little gimpy right now but he’s more durable than anything currently on the roster heck they could probably finagle Tolbert away with a few picks…. think about it

  51. tsizzlesucks says: Aug 24, 2013 10:40 AM

    Patriots and Packers and Dallas please take note. Your offensive lines suck and when you play the way you are, the playoffs are out of the question. They actually all look like they’re playing afraid…especially the Patriots who looked awful against the Lions. They were manhandled like a college d line playing against a Pop Warner o line.

  52. beerbratscheese says: Aug 24, 2013 10:43 AM

    Love seeing all the hate from people who don’t know what they’re talking about. I always get a big chuckle out of it.

    Let’s not forget that most Lacy’s carries came after Harrell showed how ineffective he was at QB, so the Seahawks were stacking the box. The Packers were running the most predictable offense imaginable for the majority of his carries, behind the second string line. He had a 12 yard run negated due to a ticky-tack holding call. Also, the Seahawks D is one of the best in the league.

    You can’t predict his season based on this game, just like you can’t predict his season based on his eight carries last week.

  53. ninersdomanation says: Aug 24, 2013 10:45 AM

    You don’t need to run when you play the worst secondary in football. I don’t know why everyone likes these guys, they are criminals and LAZY! 9ers gonna slaughter the seadicks twice this year! They even have a girl running the ball for them!! Hahaha!!! Lol!!! Sanfransisco has 8 Super Bowls and the seadicks have never even been!!!! Gonna be a long year for Pete the cheat!!! Go 9ers!!!

  54. trapshoot says: Aug 24, 2013 10:46 AM

    They did look pathetic last nite but preseason means very little. Still, reason to be concerned.

  55. thefiesty1 says: Aug 24, 2013 10:50 AM

    Yea, but VY didn’t have any trouble running or passing on them. He looked a lot better than Graham.

  56. natepalmer1 says: Aug 24, 2013 10:50 AM

    Packers fans better hope Rogers stays healthy this season…If not, it’s curtains…
    GO SEAHAWKS!

  57. badguy711 says: Aug 24, 2013 10:51 AM

    Every single pre-season game each team’s fanbase finds some way to justify any results they don’t like. Whether the cry about how long starters play, or whose defence was game planning. Doesn’t matter. All players on the field are good players.

    Bottom line: meaningless game, GB OLine is a major weakness which nullifies the advantage of having one of the best QBs in the game a bit.

  58. umainebearman says: Aug 24, 2013 10:51 AM

    So what you are saying is last years Alabama online is better than this years Green Bays online? Well Packers fans get used to getting shut down. The rest of the league will enjoy your silence.

  59. thepvyharvin says: Aug 24, 2013 10:51 AM

    You arterial plaque infested Lombardi Losers make my day!! Making empty excuses about McLacy playing behind that statue of a qb,Squirrel. This is the season where the mighty Vikes rule the North. Now get back to your side pork brunch….

  60. gsomatt says: Aug 24, 2013 10:52 AM

    1) Preseason

    2) Except for 1 series, it was 2nd string offense against 1st string defense.

    3) Seahags should worry Wilson’s 1st string offense couldn’t get anything going for 3 quarters against the 2nd string Packer D.

  61. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Aug 24, 2013 10:54 AM

    tokyosandblaster says:Aug 24, 2013 9:44 AM

    True. Were they playing with any credible threat at QB?
    _______

    Aren’t you the guy who says the Vikings don’t have a credible threat at quarterback? Their running back seems to do just fine.

  62. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Aug 24, 2013 10:56 AM

    I think we all have to keep in mind that it’s only the preseason. Nevertheless, we may have to hold back our petition to the Hall of Fame to change their rules to allow enshrinement of Lacy and Franklin before their rookie years are completed.

  63. themostlogicalofvoices says: Aug 24, 2013 10:58 AM

    @ Seatownballer

    Russell Wilson played into the 3rd. Both starting CBs played the entire first half as well as the safeties. Starting oline was in when Wilson was in. Take of the rose colored glasses. The performance Seattle put on the field last was night was far less impressive than GB. And starters being out? C’mon now, Nelson, Cobb, Bulaga, Williams. Rodgers 1 series and CMIII gone after a couple. 3-3. You’re scared.

  64. pftisterrible says: Aug 24, 2013 10:59 AM

    The Seahawks play man with a single high safety most of the time no matter the QB. These “the Seahawks were stacking the box against Graham Harrell” comments are dumb. That is how they play most of the time.

  65. frellmedead7 says: Aug 24, 2013 11:03 AM

    That is because the Packers’ o-line sucks, especially at run blocking. Thompson’s track record of drafting offensive linemen is dubious at best, and they just lost their starting left tackle for the year.

  66. trollhammer20 says: Aug 24, 2013 11:05 AM

    I noticed that Lacy didn’t come in until the second series.

    Which made sense. If you’ve got a young RB and want him to learn to block, better to have him fail at it with Harrell in the backfield instead of Rodgers.

    Speaking of RBs, how about that Kristine Michael? And to think he’s the third string…

  67. goawayeverybody says: Aug 24, 2013 11:05 AM

    Hey Packers fans, please leave the DELUSIONAL to the Vikings fans, it’s what they excel at.

    If last night won’t convince you that you have no running game, wait until you face the 49ers in week one. That should clue you in a bit.

    The Packers O-line has been awful for years – they can’t protect Rodgers and they can’t run-block. This should tell everyone in the world just how brilliant and amazing Aaron Rodgers truly is. He wins games for the Pack despite all these problems. Best quarterback of all time in my view.

  68. joker65 says: Aug 24, 2013 11:06 AM

    “Let’s not forget that most Lacy’s carries came after Harrell showed how ineffective he was at QB,”

    So your explanation for why they sucked is because your backup QB sucked. Good luck if Rodgers has to miss any time. Theres a good chance he will as the o-line isn’t very good.

  69. f1lthymcnasty1 says: Aug 24, 2013 11:16 AM

    Heck…We might be the worst team in the NFC North this year

  70. SilentMajority says: Aug 24, 2013 11:17 AM

    tokyosandblaster says:
    Aug 24, 2013 9:44 AM
    True. Were they playing with any credible threat at QB?

    ____________________>

    Does it matter? Aaron Rodgers has started every game for how many years now, and the Packers running game has been non-existent for a large portion of that time.

  71. f1lthymcnasty1 says: Aug 24, 2013 11:20 AM

    tokyosandblaster says:
    Aug 24, 2013 9:44 AM
    True. Were they playing with any credible threat at QB?

    ———————————————————

    How did AP gain all those yards, based on your logic??

  72. ihateyoujeff says: Aug 24, 2013 11:20 AM

    With Harrell in at QB they just packed the box. Harrell couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn in the NFL. Would’ve been nice to see Lacy again with Rodgers at QB.

  73. contra74 says: Aug 24, 2013 11:23 AM

    Lol – you can gain 4 yards by simply falling forward. What a joke this team is. All the way from the front office to its delusional fans.

  74. classyjacklambert says: Aug 24, 2013 11:25 AM

    So Leveon Bell gained more yards last game than Lacy and Franklin combined? Maybe the Bengals were the smart ones this year after all.

  75. milwaukeeguy says: Aug 24, 2013 11:31 AM

    A little misleading given that they were running behind the 2’s and 3′ for most of the night. Nevertheless, I do question if the O-line can consistently run block, particularly the center and left tackle but the regular season will be here soon enough so we’ll see.

    I don’t know about fans of other teams, but after the last couple of years with all their injuries, watching these pre-season games is cringe-inducing because it’s to the point where I almost expect multiple starters to go down now.

  76. beastmode5150 says: Aug 24, 2013 11:33 AM

    I live fans of GB that keep saying hawks “starters” were in until the third q. Those of us in Seattle know that a few of the guys you call “starters” are undrafted free agent rookies that we are testing out, we had 5 starters in street clothes. Pre Season only matters when you are as deep as the Hawks. Guys fighting to make this team.

  77. oreo51 says: Aug 24, 2013 11:44 AM

    Marshawn Lynch had 3 carries. Sidney Rice, Zack Miller, Chris Clemons and Cliff Avril did not play. Seattle’s defense was dominate on a night when their 1st team offense was out of rhythm. Fortunately, Seattle’s backup players are better than anything GB has got.

  78. sandblastermoron says: Aug 24, 2013 11:48 AM

    The loser drunk packer fans running there mouths again!

  79. rgledz says: Aug 24, 2013 12:02 PM

    It’s funny how Packer fans work…..this week it’s “you can’t judge Lacy on a preseason game that Rodgers hardly played in”. Last week…..in a preseason game……it was “the NFC North should be very afraid!”. Way to be consistent Pack fans.

  80. Bluestree says: Aug 24, 2013 12:09 PM

    I don’t know why any Seahawks fans would be talking any smack. The score was 17-10, with your starting quarterback playing into the third quarter. You managed to beat the Graham Harrell ledPackers by one touchdown. Wow, I’m impressed. If Vince Young had played the entire fourth quarter, you probably would have lost.
    Vince Young. Hah!

  81. axespray says: Aug 24, 2013 12:09 PM

    Let’s ignore the fact that the starting oline and QB left after the 1st quarter – ignore the pass happy play calling cause we have 3 guys competing for the backup job and let’s pretend this was an actual game and that brady quinn is a hall of famer….ka-durrh!?

  82. Bluestree says: Aug 24, 2013 12:11 PM

    PS. Packers preseason D picked Wilson twice, sacked him, and collapsed the pocket many times. Good thing the kid can run.

  83. wgray981 says: Aug 24, 2013 12:14 PM

    I drafted Lacy for fantasy…crap!

  84. tokyosandblaster says: Aug 24, 2013 12:16 PM

    The Packers d looked great. They’ll be able to stop anything the NFC north can throw at them pretty easily.

    The Rookies will be fine. Lacy will get 1000 yards, Franklin about 400-500.

  85. sandblastermoron says: Aug 24, 2013 12:21 PM

    Fire Ted! U losers will always b jealous of 6 rings!

  86. tokyosandblaster says: Aug 24, 2013 12:22 PM

    beastmode5150 says:
    Aug 24, 2013 11:33 AM
    I live fans of GB that keep saying hawks “starters” were in until the third q. Those of us in Seattle know that a few of the guys you call “starters” are undrafted free agent rookies that we are testing out, we had 5 starters in street clothes. Pre Season only matters when you are as deep as the Hawks. Guys fighting to make this team.

    Lol…

    If both teams play their starters the whole game, it’s Packers 30, Seahawks 10.

    Truth.

  87. whatjusthapped says: Aug 24, 2013 12:24 PM

    I know this story was posted strictly to give a cheap thrill for the Viking trolls. But consider the stats in context:

    (1) Rodgers played only one series so the Seattle defense didn’t need to worry about the QB.
    (2) most of the game was the Packer’s 2nd and 3rd string vs. Seattle’s 1st and 2nd stringers respectively.
    (3) Seattle has one of the top run defenses in the NFL, still the Packers second stringers weren’t getting any push against their 1st string.
    (4) Preseason doesn’t count, if I remember right, the Lions went 4-0 in the preseason and promptly went 0-16 in the regular season.
    (4) Ponder is still the Vikings QB. nuff said.

  88. clssylssy says: Aug 24, 2013 12:29 PM

    True the Packers need to focus on their O-line opening up routes for their RBs as much as protecting the QB however, Green Bay played a much better game with their backups holding up to the Seahawks starters late into the 3rd quarter. I had the impression that on the final drive they could have scored had they thought it was revelevant but they had gotten out of this exercise exactly what they needed and that was to evaluate weaknesses in preparaation for their game with the 9ers that will count. It seemed that Pete Carroll was all about winning at any cost (over 115 yards given up in penalties, many for unsportsmanlike conduct, holding, etc) and is out to win through intimidation. Not a Packers fan but admire them as being the only truely “America’s team” since they are the only team in the NFL that is publically owned. GO PACKERS!

  89. f1lthymcnasty1 says: Aug 24, 2013 12:29 PM

    whatjusthapped says: Aug 24, 2013 12:24 PM

    I know this story was posted strictly to give a cheap thrill for the Viking trolls. But consider the stats in context:

    (1) Rodgers played only one series so the Seattle defense didn’t need to worry about the QB.
    (2) most of the game was the Packer’s 2nd and 3rd string vs. Seattle’s 1st and 2nd stringers respectively.
    (3) Seattle has one of the top run defenses in the NFL, still the Packers second stringers weren’t getting any push against their 1st string.
    (4) Preseason doesn’t count, if I remember right, the Lions went 4-0 in the preseason and promptly went 0-16 in the regular season.
    (4) Ponder is still the Vikings QB. nuff said.
    ———————————————————-
    Do Packer fans have an accountability problem?

  90. pack15forever says: Aug 24, 2013 12:37 PM

    What this story fails to mention is that Lacy was playing with Graham Harrell and the other backup QB’s and the second string. Seattle had their first team defense and offense in the game through the middle of the third quarter. Just like defenses can play their safeties and linebackers deep when there is no running game, defenses can play eight men in the box when they do not fear the quarterback. Statistics don’t always tell the true story.

  91. threedeep1998 says: Aug 24, 2013 12:43 PM

    tokyosandblaster says:
    Aug 24, 2013 9:44 AM
    True. Were they playing with any credible threat at QB?
    ____________________________________

    I’ll cut you slack but to be fair: AP has Ponder as his QB and AP rips it up.

  92. f1lthymcnasty1 says: Aug 24, 2013 12:44 PM

    whatjusthapped says: Aug 24, 2013 12:24 PM

    I know this story was posted strictly to give a cheap thrill for the Viking trolls. But consider the stats in context:

    (1) Rodgers played only one series so the Seattle defense didn’t need to worry about the QB.
    (2) most of the game was the Packer’s 2nd and 3rd string vs. Seattle’s 1st and 2nd stringers respectively.
    (3) Seattle has one of the top run defenses in the NFL, still the Packers second stringers weren’t getting any push against their 1st string.
    (4) Preseason doesn’t count, if I remember right, the Lions went 4-0 in the preseason and promptly went 0-16 in the regular season.
    (4) Ponder is still the Vikings QB. nuff said.
    ———————————————————-
    Do Packer fans have an accountability problem?

    1. The wind was supposed to be blowing out of the NE.

    2. The grass was cut to 1/2 inch it was supposed to be 1/4 inch.

    3. The Packers bench was given Powerade instead of Gatorade.

    4. Eddie Lacy had an upset stomach from the sandwich his Mom packed for him.

  93. chi01town says: Aug 24, 2013 12:44 PM

    Rodgers is a dead man behind that O-line. and whats worse is the WR’s
    Cobb and Nelson cant stay on the field for 5 games between the two of them. and FAT BOY Lacy cant run
    behind that weak O-line. the 49ers is waiting in San Francisco. I CANT WAIT TO SEE THAT GAME!

  94. steverolley says: Aug 24, 2013 12:48 PM

    First off……. Any Packers fan saying it was GB #2’s vs SEA #1’s need to give their head a shake. Sea didn’t play Avril, Clemons, Hill, Irvin saw limited action, and half the guys in there were UDFA.

    Second… GB had their first string O in there and took out Rodgers and they still couldn’t run the ball.

    Third… Even when Sea had their 3rd string guys in their GB’s backs were getting blown up.

    Vince Young was able to run the ball, the other backs that were compared to AP after last week couldn’t get over the line of scrimmage

  95. packerenglishmajor says: Aug 24, 2013 12:53 PM

    Um, the Packers won a lot of super bowls so everything is good in Green Bay . . .

    Well um, except the water, and um our girls are kinda large but if you watch them cheering they don’t sweat that much.

  96. tokyosandblaster says: Aug 24, 2013 12:58 PM

    I can see Vikings & Seadderal fans want to pad their preseason Super Bowl hopes, but just take a serious look:

    1. No Aaron Rodgers 2. No Randall Cobb 3. No Jordy Nelson 4. The Packers 1 string defense looked really good, getting to a mobile QB frequently, picking him off twice. Ponder’s line will look better?

    To me it seems like McCarthy is using preseason like you are supposed to; find the best players for the team, and not reveal too much for the regular season.

    The niners have zero game tape for the packers with Cobb, Nelson, and Lacy/Franklin with Rodgers at QB.

    I think you kids are probably a little too desperate to be relevant, and it’s clouding your judgement.

  97. beerbratscheese says: Aug 24, 2013 12:58 PM

    rgledz says:
    Aug 24, 2013 12:02 PM
    It’s funny how Packer fans work…..this week it’s “you can’t judge Lacy on a preseason game that Rodgers hardly played in”. Last week…..in a preseason game……it was “the NFC North should be very afraid!”. Way to be consistent Pack fans.
    =====================

    You DO realize that there is more than one Packer fan, right? Some talk smack, just like certain fans of every other team in the NFL. Some don’t talk smack, just like certain fans of every other team in the NFL.

    It’s absolutely amazing how different kinds of fans of EVERY NFL TEAM come out at different times. Please don’t think every Packer fan is exactly the same.

  98. beerbratscheese says: Aug 24, 2013 1:03 PM

    oreo51 says:
    Aug 24, 2013 11:44 AM
    Marshawn Lynch had 3 carries. Sidney Rice, Zack Miller, Chris Clemons and Cliff Avril did not play. Seattle’s defense was dominate on a night when their 1st team offense was out of rhythm. Fortunately, Seattle’s backup players are better than anything GB has got.
    ============================

    …and this is absolutely PRICESLESS! MY favorite team’s D was dominant, while MY favorite teams O was out of sync.

    Could it…oh, I don’t know…be possible that the Packers D was dominant while the Packers O was out of sync? Maybe? Just maybe?

  99. f1lthymcnasty1 says: Aug 24, 2013 1:06 PM

    tokyosandblaster says: Aug 24, 2013 12:58 PM

    I can see Vikings & Seadderal fans want to pad their preseason Super Bowl hopes, but just take a serious look:

    1. No Aaron Rodgers 2. No Randall Cobb 3. No Jordy Nelson 4. The Packers 1 string defense looked really good, getting to a mobile QB frequently, picking him off twice. Ponder’s line will look better?

    To me it seems like McCarthy is using preseason like you are supposed to; find the best players for the team, and not reveal too much for the regular season.

    The niners have zero game tape for the packers with Cobb, Nelson, and Lacy/Franklin with Rodgers at QB.

    I think you kids are probably a little too desperate to be relevant, and it’s clouding your judgement.
    ——————————————————–

    You should take a lesson from your fellow packer fan, “Beerbratscheese”

  100. seahonky says: Aug 24, 2013 1:06 PM

    Ok packer fans…you won…I’ll even make up a score…59-0…happy now? For most hawk fans, it was a meaningless preseason game…

  101. qoojo says: Aug 24, 2013 1:08 PM

    Also, the Seattle DL was simply better at stopping the run than the packers OL was at run blocking. The OL was crap.

    A large part of the problem was because Harrell was in the game early till mid 3rd quarter. So the defense put 8 guys on the line and dared him to throw it at times. Because simply put, Harrell sucks. He needs a lot of luck to get his wounded ducks to the WRs.

  102. tokyosandblaster says: Aug 24, 2013 1:22 PM

    Lol, you kids are crazy.

    You think we are upset that we lost a preseason game?

    Against Seadderal?

    No.

    The obsurdity of fact ignoring journalism is what we are commenting on.

    MDS, are you a Vikings fan?

  103. tokyosandblaster says: Aug 24, 2013 1:26 PM

    f1lthymcnasty1 says:
    Aug 24, 2013 1:06 PM

    You should take a lesson from your fellow packer fan, “Beerbratscheese”

    ——

    You should just post as Rick, or contra, and get rid of all your other aliases.

    No?

    Ok.

  104. f1lthymcnasty1 says: Aug 24, 2013 1:30 PM

    tokyosandblaster says: Aug 24, 2013 1:26 PM

    f1lthymcnasty1 says:
    Aug 24, 2013 1:06 PM

    You should take a lesson from your fellow packer fan, “Beerbratscheese”

    ——

    You should just post as Rick, or contra, and get rid of all your other aliases.

    No?

    Ok.
    ——————————————————–

    Oooooooooooooooooh, Somebody’s bitter.

  105. filthymcnasty1 says: Aug 24, 2013 1:33 PM

    Last night the running game was less effective than the bridge maintenance in MN. But it was a pre season game, and obviously they’re keeping their powder dry.

  106. jcbadger34 says: Aug 24, 2013 1:45 PM

    Entire Vikings offense looks like crap without Adrian Peterson, Vikings fans say “It’s preseason, and AD’s not in! None of this matters!”

    Packers running game looks like crap with Aaron Rodgers and most starters on the bench, Vikings fans say “OH MY GOD, THE PACKERS ARE SCREWED!!! LOLOLOL!!!!!”

    Vikings fans – Idiots for over 50 years.

  107. tokyosandblaster says: Aug 24, 2013 1:47 PM

    If by “bitter” you mean “laughing at you” then yes, I am. :)

  108. beerbratscheese says: Aug 24, 2013 1:48 PM

    f1lthymcnasty1 says:
    Aug 24, 2013 1:06 PM

    You should take a lesson from your fellow packer fan, “Beerbratscheese”
    ==========================

    Actually, I’m not sure what you mean here. I don’t appreciate fans saying a player will be better than an already established player, or claiming they are locks for the HOF, etc.

    I think Tokyo is spot on with a lot of what he said in the post you responded to. I do think the Seahawks are relevant and contenders, but I pretty much agree with everything else.

  109. f1lthymcnasty1 says: Aug 24, 2013 1:53 PM

    tokyosandblaster says: Aug 24, 2013 1:47 PM

    If by “bitter” you mean “laughing at you” then yes, I am. :)

    ——————————————————–

    I’m not familiar with that definition of bitter. It must come from a Wisconsin dictionary.

    Quantcast

  110. emperorzero says: Aug 24, 2013 1:58 PM

    Oh look! The Packers struggled with a physical defense again. There is nothing new here. The O-line looks about the same as last year (which is a compliment since they’re missing Bulaga) and they’ll once again struggle with defenses like Seattle, San Francisco, and the New York Giants. Too many times last night when a running back got the ball, he was greeted in the backfield by multiple defenders. I don’t care if you’re Dickerson, Payton, Sanders, or Smith – you’re not getting very far when that consistently happens.

  111. chi01town says: Aug 24, 2013 1:59 PM

    A running game in green bay? thats funny. a coach that dont know what a RB should look like, the O-line is shot and NO WR’S worth talking about cause Nelson and Cobb cant stay on the field for 5 games without getting hurt. BUT look for the packers and they fans to blame the whole season on Dom Capers

  112. tokyosandblaster says: Aug 24, 2013 2:03 PM

    I just figured you didn’t know the meaning of the word you were trying to use. It wouldn’t surprise me, after seeing so many asinine posts.

    But I don’t get bitter over seeing petty posts from a second tier fan base’s attempts to upset me.

    I just laugh.

  113. cjvirnig says: Aug 24, 2013 2:09 PM

    As a Vikings fan, I’m not even slightly worried about Eddie Lacy or Jonathan Franklin, especially with Green Bay’s porous offensive line. The more Mike McCarthy wants to run the football and take it out of the hands of Aaron Rodgers, the happier I’ll be…

  114. f1lthymcnasty1 says: Aug 24, 2013 2:09 PM

    tokyosandblaster says: Aug 24, 2013 2:03 PM

    I just figured you didn’t know the meaning of the word you were trying to use. It wouldn’t surprise me, after seeing so many asinine posts.

    But I don’t get bitter over seeing petty posts from a second tier fan base’s attempts to upset me.

    I just laugh.
    ——————————————————–

    And what fan base are you referring to? Are you that delusional and conceited to think that any fan base other than Green Bay’s is second tier? I wonder what all the other fan base’s think of your comment?

  115. 7ransponder says: Aug 24, 2013 2:14 PM

    Pack fans who expect people to take things lightly on matters of RBs when they are so critical of other teams’ QBs have another thing coming.

  116. tokyosandblaster says: Aug 24, 2013 2:16 PM

    I wouldn’t say every other teams fans are second tier.

    Minnesota for sure. Jacksonville, Detroit, Arizona…

    See, you’re just not educated when it comes to football. You have to have corporations buy tickets to avoid blackouts…

    2nd tier. Truth hurt?

  117. contra74isloosbuthole says: Aug 24, 2013 2:20 PM

    Uhm. Preseason. I will expect most of you losers to disappear by the middle of the season. Get ready for another packers NFC north title.

  118. jprcox says: Aug 24, 2013 2:21 PM

    Keep in mind that most of Seattle’s top DE’s were not playing last night.

    Clemons, Avril, Bennett (out after 4 plays)

    …and those who want to bash Seattle’s offense need to remember that in Preseason they are not going to put on the full run attack so players don’t get hurt. Wilson, Lynch are not running nearly the same as they would in reg season. For Seahawks that sets up the pass.

  119. f1lthymcnasty1 says: Aug 24, 2013 2:21 PM

    tokyosandblaster says: Aug 24, 2013 2:16 PM

    I wouldn’t say every other teams fans are second tier.

    Minnesota for sure. Jacksonville, Detroit, Arizona…

    See, you’re just not educated when it comes to football. You have to have corporations buy tickets to avoid blackouts…

    2nd tier. Truth hurt?
    ——————————————————-

    You listed 4 teams and commented “Truth Hurt?”

    I’m confused because I am not a fan of any of those teams, but I’m sure those fan base’s might have something to say about your comments

    No?

  120. tokyosandblaster says: Aug 24, 2013 2:27 PM

    Honestly, I don’t care.

    This is a sports site that has anonymous posting.

    You (personally) are second tier, because you have to pretend to be someone else.

    Why not create your own username, and instead of just useless personal attacks, try to talk football?

    That’s too hard, eh?

  121. f1lthymcnasty1 says: Aug 24, 2013 2:29 PM

    tokyosandblaster says: Aug 24, 2013 2:27 PM

    Honestly, I don’t care.

    This is a sports site that has anonymous posting.

    You (personally) are second tier, because you have to pretend to be someone else.

    Why not create your own username, and instead of just useless personal attacks, try to talk football?

    That’s too hard, eh?
    ————————————————-

    “Honestly, I don’t care”

    Well you sure respond to enough of my comments to not care..

  122. beerbratscheese says: Aug 24, 2013 2:42 PM

    jprcox says:
    Aug 24, 2013 2:21 PM

    …and those who want to bash Seattle’s offense need to remember that in Preseason they are not going to put on the full run attack so players don’t get hurt. Wilson, Lynch are not running nearly the same as they would in reg season. For Seahawks that sets up the pass.
    ==========================

    I do believe there is some truth to that. However, considering what the Seahawks did to the Chargers and Broncos, you know Carroll had planned to hang 30+ points on the Packers D, and you can bet he’s upset that didn’t happen.

    As it is, if Seahawks fans are happy with the way their team played, congratulations. But as a Packers fan, I am quite satisfied that we held Russell Wilson in check for three quarters.

    Both teams were missing key players, so neither team can fully use that as an excuse. But the main thing I take from it is, if Aaron Rodgers had played three quarters, I’m fairly certain the Packers would have put up considerably more points than what they did, and would have likely walked away with a win.

    Rodgers’ only playing one possession may have cost us the game, but we learned an awful lot about the backup QBs. Not that we liked what we learned, but it’s better to learn it now than halfway through the regular season.

  123. tokyosandblaster says: Aug 24, 2013 2:43 PM

    What does not caring about who I offend have to do with answering your question? The two aren’t mutually exclusive; in fact, they literally have nothing to do with each other.

    We’re you dropped on your head?

    You may as well say “you hate lemonade because corn can be grown in fields.”

    Thanks for the laugh this morning. I needed it.

  124. keylimelight says: Aug 24, 2013 2:43 PM

    The Packers offense hasn’t quite been the same since offense-minded Coach Philbin left for the Dolphins.

    Apparently, his replacement in Green Bay hasn’t shown the same level of competence that he had during their Superbowl run.

  125. imaginesuperbowlwin says: Aug 24, 2013 2:48 PM

    Standard operating procedure for a packer “running game.” Toast!

  126. kiopta1 says: Aug 24, 2013 2:52 PM

    IMO Lacy is only as good as his Oline.

  127. genebulge says: Aug 24, 2013 3:05 PM

    The Packer fans think that just because Rogers played one series then took himself out that the whole first team came out with him. Get real. Rogers didn’t want to play any more than that so make sure he didn’t get hurt as it is getting close to the regular season and heaven help the Packers if they lose him. Seattle was without a good number of starters that didn’t even suit up as they are still recovering from injuries. So that bs about the Packers 2’s % 3’s playing against the Seahawks starters for three quarters is so bogus and either says that Packer fans don’t really know much about football or are just plain stupid. If the cheese fits, put it on your head idiots.

  128. tokyosandblaster says: Aug 24, 2013 3:08 PM

    Lol, ^^^

    We know about championships.

    You do not.

  129. jayniner says: Aug 24, 2013 3:24 PM

    In all fairness(and as a Niners fan I can’t believe I’m about to acknowledge this)

    …but it was the Seahawks defense.

  130. swaggyy says: Aug 24, 2013 3:28 PM

    ^lol k

    That Christine Michael tho!

  131. deltaoracle says: Aug 24, 2013 3:40 PM

    Yep, game-planned and tried everything in their repetoire in order to win that all-important pre-season game, but couldn’t get it done. Game over man, game over!
    Think how nice it would be if people were this fired up about stuff like how we’re destroying our planet. Oh well…

  132. antalicus says: Aug 24, 2013 3:46 PM

    When you play with Aaron Rodgers long enough your offensive line forgets how to run block.

  133. stellarperformance says: Aug 24, 2013 3:55 PM

    Who cares…..besides Viking “fans.” These are practice games, and this third one was more so. Every year the Packers have starters get hurt and they still dominate the division. The Packers make it easy to be hated….they’re that good. Ask the Yankees why everybody hates on them. It’s better than being anonymous…. unless there are Viking “fans” that would like to dispute that notion.

  134. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Aug 24, 2013 4:36 PM

    So Genius Ted Thompson was trying to decide between a dude named Lacy and a dude named Christine. Looks like he made the wrong choice.

  135. swaggyy says: Aug 24, 2013 4:36 PM

    Let’s all be real here…its pre season. Neither of these teams game planned for each other. I’m sure Lacy and Franklin will be fine. GB has Aaron Rodgers. I don’t think they need to be worried.

  136. aldante66 says: Aug 24, 2013 4:46 PM

    Here’s the deal and you will all agree. In order to have a running game you need an O line who can actually block, open holes so said running back, any running back, can run through said holes. The Packers O line don’t even practive run blocking. They spend every freekin wakin minute trying to protect the 110 million dollar man.

    I read the Pack got rid of the big bulky O line years ago and went with a new idea, smaller more mobile linemen who could zone block: everyone run to the right, every one run to the left. Macarthy likes simple and it allows you to practice pass protection.
    Thus, the reason they have not had one 100 yard rusher in what three years?

    If I was Lacy I would be the most pissed off person in football. Of all teams to go to, you get the one who doesn’t have a freekin clue about opening holes up. Rots of ruck with dat Eddie boy.

  137. 7ransponder says: Aug 24, 2013 4:50 PM

    stellarperformance says:
    Aug 24, 2013 3:55 PM
    Who cares…..besides Viking “fans.” These are practice games, and this third one was more so.

    ————————-

    Yet you and your kin will be right there to comment first on the first Vikings thread to come off of the Sunday night game against SF, making fun of whatever you can about our team even though these are just practice games. Give and take man, give and take.

  138. stevent92 says: Aug 24, 2013 4:55 PM

    For the Packers, this is progress.

  139. aldante66 says: Aug 24, 2013 4:56 PM

    Prior to the draft I posted on Pack web sites, IMHO, they needed to pick two top O linemen. Reason: Beluga has hip injury and his return and that of Sherrod is not certain, they have no back up center and they just need a couple of studs to step in and anchor that line.

    Not they drafted a bum DE who has played in one game, one play, and hurt his ankle, and a running back that is used to running through big holes. Ya that will happen with this O line. I rest my case.

  140. copack20 says: Aug 24, 2013 5:07 PM

    “IMO Lacy is only as good as his Oline.”

    ——————————

    Yes and no. Run blocking is clearly not the strength of this team. (Insert “Pass blocking isn’t either” joke here). Where Lacy will be value, relative to what we’ve had before, it making plays on the second level. In the zone blocking scheme, the line’s primary goal is to get the running back to the second level, so he can make plays. That’s something GB hasn’t had since A. Green. Will Lacy be that guy? Time will tell. In the Rams game, the line got him to the second level and he ran through guys. Against the ‘hawks, that didn’t happen. Another thing to consider is that this line has three new guys on it. Chemistry is critical for an o-line. It will take time to gel. Again, that’s why preseason doesn’t mean a whole lot.

  141. jprcox says: Aug 24, 2013 5:53 PM

    PACK fans should rest assured that you won’t meet Seattle’s D from every team. I am sure Lacy will be fine fine.

    …well, I guess after game 1 of the regular season that is – he won’t rush on SF either.

  142. banlarson says: Aug 24, 2013 6:53 PM

    Shows how poor the Packers really are without Rogers. Its a 1 man team. Drafting a fat guy who wasn’t touched in college until he hit a DB and a speed guy who isn’t NFL fast who will run behind an OL that resembles the Swiss cheese their fans put on their head is a recipe for disaster. Rogers will get knocked out at some point this year and this team will take a nose dive.

  143. hatesycophants says: Aug 24, 2013 6:54 PM

    Over-post much?

    Packers fans are delusional.

  144. jrcw27 says: Aug 24, 2013 9:44 PM

    I love how vikings and bears trolls like to always talk about how the packers have the worst everything. Can we seriously just end this with this is not 1985 Bears fans and this is not….oh that’s right the vikings fans can’t even re live a championship year.

  145. filthymcnasty1 says: Aug 24, 2013 11:16 PM

    I expect the Packer running game will continue to be good enough to humiliate the Vikings twice per season, like the have dating all the way back to the beginning of this decade.

  146. cougar69rt03 says: Aug 24, 2013 11:46 PM

    Watching the Packers running game this year will be like watching pitchers hit

  147. beerbratscheese says: Aug 25, 2013 12:30 PM

    I just rewatched the game. Lacy had positive yards while he was running with the first string O-line, and that’s not even including an eleven yard run that was wiped out on a phantom holding call.

    He had -11 yards on three carries with the second string O-line. On all plays, defenders were in the back field almost as soon as the ball was snapped. On his last carry, Harrell threw him a lateral, where he caught it six yards behind the line of scrimmage, and there were three defenders waiting for him.

    There’s no doubt in my mind that the Packers running game will be significantly better than last year once the first string plays the entire game.

  148. blackhawks2010 says: Aug 25, 2013 3:01 PM

    What’s the over/under for how many games Rodgers lasts this year? Just checking, will it be an ACL torn, shoulder blowout, or concussions?

    It’s bizarre that GB did nothing to improve the worst oline in NFL. The best QB in NFL deserves better, it’s going to be brutal.

  149. beerbratscheese says: Aug 25, 2013 9:55 PM

    blackhawks2010 says:
    Aug 25, 2013 3:01 PM

    It’s bizarre that GB did nothing to improve the worst oline in NFL. The best QB in NFL deserves better, it’s going to be brutal.
    ========================

    That is an exceptional point, because, you know, other than drafting two O-lineman, moving their two best linemen from the right side to the left side, and continued to rehabilitate former first round draft pick Derick Sherrod, they did nothing.

    Maybe next year they can draft seven O-linemen. That should make you happy.

  150. filthymcnasty1 says: Aug 30, 2013 2:12 PM

    blackhawks2010 says:
    Aug 25, 2013 3:01 PM
    What’s the over/under for how many games Rodgers lasts this year?

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