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Jared Allen sounds off on Looney’s low hit

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For the record, I’m a huge Jared Allen fan.  He’s genuinely funny, he’s a great player, he’s good for the league, he does a lot of good in the community, and he’s moved on from some off-field issues early in his career.  Besides, my kid plays defensive end and, as of this year, wears Allen’s number.

But Allen knows a thing or two about hitting guys low.  Whether it was last year, when he hit former Bears guard Lance Louis low and drew a $21,000 fine — or in 2008 when he dove into the knee of Matt Schaub.  Twice.  Which makes it kind of hard to give a whole lot of credence to Allen’s complaints about 49ers offensive lineman Joe Looney hitting teammate Kevin Williams low on Sunday night.

Still, here’s what Allen said in response to Looney’s low hit on Williams, which the league office has deemed to be a clean play.

“If a defensive player would have hit an offensive linemen in the knee like that on an interception, they’re going to call it, right?  So just because he wasn’t going back toward his end zone it’s not the peel-back rule, but the intent was to take his knee out,” Allen said, via VikingUpdate.com.  “He could have hit him right in the chest.  It would have been no problem and no one would have said anything.  Kevin wouldn’t have gotten hurt on that.  That happens, but when you intentionally duck and put your helmet or put your shoulder pad into a guy’s knee, in my place there’s no place for that.”

The problem is that the rules allow the hit Looney applied to Williams.

“My problem with this play is its intent. He ducked down to hit him in the knee. It was intent to hit him in the knee. If the league can’t see that, they can fine me for this.  It was absurd,” Allen said.

The rules don’t provide for intent; they focus on circumstance.  In these specific circumstances, Williams wasn’t protected against a low hit.

“He blatantly ducks into his knee,” Allen said.  “He could have hit Kevin clean in the chest and we would have been sitting here making fun of Kevin for getting blindsided.  Now you’re taking a guy in the knee and you’re watching his knee completely fold back.  For me, I’ve got problems with that. . . .  I have a problem with when we talk about player safety in this league and we have a clear case of a guy intentionally trying to hurt a guy and we do nothing about it and we pat him on the back and say it’s OK.”

The only way to change the outcome is to change the rules to expand the situations in which players are protected against low hits.  With more and more players calling for change when it comes to low hits, change seems to be inevitable.

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68 Responses to “Jared Allen sounds off on Looney’s low hit”
  1. ingraven says: Aug 27, 2013 6:39 PM

    The part when Jared Allen started talking, was when I stopped reading.

  2. thepvyharvin says: Aug 27, 2013 6:44 PM

    Defensive guys like Allen throw themselves with reckless abandon at high speeds and make those mistakes at times. Slow, plodding olinemen tend to be more guilty of intent when it happens imo…

  3. ndnut says: Aug 27, 2013 6:49 PM

    There is a rule for this called “unnecessary roughness.” The play included a hit that was unnecessarily rough, so the flag should have come out.

  4. 6kings says: Aug 27, 2013 6:49 PM

    The comparison made to plays Allen was involved in is more of an attempt to cover up your man crush. Those plays don’t compare to the Looney balooney.

  5. purplengold says: Aug 27, 2013 6:50 PM

    Looney will be working as a bouncer soon.

  6. packerenglishmajor says: Aug 27, 2013 6:53 PM

    It is my duty as a Packer fan to post on a Viking story and remind anyone who will listen that the Packers have won some superbowls.

    Yada, yada, Clay Mathews, yada yada, Arron Rodgers and did I forget to say anything negative about Jared Allen or that the Vikings never won a superbowl . . .

  7. purplefloyd1 says: Aug 27, 2013 6:56 PM

    He is absolutely right that the league is hypocritical in regards to this. To say this type of hit is OK because it is deemed legal at the current time misses the point completely. This is precisely the type of thing the league should be stepping up to the plate and stopping immediately. There is no excuse for allowing this type of block in the NFL today.

  8. Carl Gerbschmidt says: Aug 27, 2013 7:01 PM

    Man, that Allen is getting whiny in his old age…

  9. ilovemyringlessfranchise says: Aug 27, 2013 7:04 PM

    I love Allen. My wife and I both have his jersey (son has Ponder), but that is the pot calling the kettle black.

  10. 84smooninlambeaunevergetsold says: Aug 27, 2013 7:05 PM

    Because of this, Allen just turned on the nitrous. I’m feeling bad for any QB that’s going to face him this year.

    He is going to break the sack record, this year.

  11. sonoco says: Aug 27, 2013 7:06 PM

    What’s absurd is to believe Joe Looney set out to intentionally hurt somebody. Bad play? Of course. Intentional? Please spare us your fake indignation Jared. It’s a bad look.

  12. bookofelisha10 says: Aug 27, 2013 7:08 PM

    i feel like nowadays we discuss more about absurd rule changes and penalties and the players complaining about them then we do about actual football/stats/players ect.

    ever since godell came in anyway.

  13. dobberdubinsky says: Aug 27, 2013 7:09 PM

    So what’s William’s status? Anyone hear the results of the MRI?

  14. whatjusthapped says: Aug 27, 2013 7:14 PM

    Since he has dived at other player’s knees, he should be the last to talk. What’s next, are we going to hear rape prevention strategies from Ben Roethlisberger, gun safety from Aaron Hernandez or boating etiquette from Fred Smoot?

    Jared Allen just needs to zip it and go back to his dinner of road kill and Grain Belts. Everytime he speaks, he lowers the IQ of those around him which goes a long way in explaining some of the football insights of the Viking trolls.

  15. donnymacjack says: Aug 27, 2013 7:16 PM

    I’m not a Vikings fan…in fact far from it. But that said I could easily argue that Allen’s hits to Schaub were not intentional by any means. In fact in one of them Schaub was knocked into Allen and pushed over him. Pretty hard to blame intent on Allen for that one. And the others look like hard edge rushes where the left tackles footwork was so bad that Allen had a legit chance to sack the QB by diving for him.

    HUGE difference than the Looney hit. I don’t think Looney was attempting to injur Williams as much as I think he was just trying hard to make a play and look good on film. The guy is fighting for a job so any hit, right up to the whistle, gives him an opportunity to look good. But it was pretty boneheaded imo and certainly not necessary to the flow of the play and the intent of the rules in place to protect guys.

    And for those saying the game is getting too wimpy, do a search on former Bengal’s player Reggie Williams. Horrific knee photos after numerous surgeries.

  16. raiderrob21 says: Aug 27, 2013 7:17 PM

    Sucks they dont play this year. Id love to see the Vikes get even. That was a BS hit. There was no reason for him to go at his knee when he was blindsided.

  17. darkneptune73 says: Aug 27, 2013 7:21 PM

    I think Jared Allen better beware of those Bears players. I hear they want revenge from last December.

    Then again, Jared Allen fears no one.

  18. naednek80 says: Aug 27, 2013 7:30 PM

    wah

  19. pwcis says: Aug 27, 2013 7:30 PM

    Allen did not go low on Lance Louis. It was more of a blindside hit where he launched himself into Louis’s upper body as Louis was turning around.

  20. hendeeze says: Aug 27, 2013 7:35 PM

    Jared, this is like you speaking against DUI’s. Sure it’s a good cause but you have no credibility because of your history. Likewise, a defender whose been fined multiple times for going at someone’s knee isn’t the best spokesperson to champion the cause.

  21. 49ers73 says: Aug 27, 2013 7:39 PM

    who cares, vikings will be lucky to win 6 games this year

    they are sh$t

  22. GenXJay says: Aug 27, 2013 7:41 PM

    Jared is simply sticking up for the defense community. Greenway is P.o’d too about the low blow & wants a balanced fine process across the board between offense & defense plays involving hits. I couldn’t agree more.

  23. mrlaloosh says: Aug 27, 2013 7:53 PM

    I weep for football.

  24. pack13queens0 says: Aug 27, 2013 7:56 PM

    Typical whining from Vikings players & fans. I told all of you it was a clean hit but nobody listened. Goes to show Vikings fans are the least knowledgeable in the NFL. Pathetic.

  25. clayminator says: Aug 27, 2013 8:02 PM

    ilovemyringlessfranchise says: Aug 27, 2013 7:04 PM

    I love Allen. My wife and I both have his jersey (son has Ponder), but that is the pot calling the kettle black.

    ———————

    oh…isn’t that a cute story with the matching jerseys and all…..just precious.

  26. 84smooninlambeaunevergetsold says: Aug 27, 2013 8:04 PM

    @whatjusthappened:

    Roadkill and Grain Belts? Sorry, but Jared gave up drinking years ago.

    Do your research, before you talk about IQs.

  27. Norseman says: Aug 27, 2013 8:08 PM

    League rules are hypocritical on many issues- all favoring the offense. A couple examples:

    1) Hits. There are several types of hits banned against offensive players that are allowed against defensive players.

    2) Off-sides penalties. An offensive linemen jumps before the snap, the play is whistled dead. A defensive linemen jumps offside before the snap, the offense gets a free play- usually a free TD pass attempt. Same minor infraction. Against the offense it’s a 5-yard penalty. Against the defense it’s a penalty shot.

    It’s too bad because these silly rules make it more likely for a team that played better on the field to lose the game.

  28. 4ever9er says: Aug 27, 2013 8:15 PM

    1. Since the whistle wasn’t blown, K. Williams should have kept playing like Looney did and then we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

    2. If you want to take someone knee out, you will use your helmet not shoulder pads or butt which is what Looney did.

    3. When an Offensive linemen sees a defender pursuing a play, he’ better block him and it doesn’t matter if fans think that it was irrelevant to the play.

    4. 22 years ago my 9ers lost the Greatest QB of all time in the NFC Championship game because a lazy O-Lineman whom I won’t name, but because he assumed that a play was over and that the defender wouldn’t get to the QB he watched on one knee as Leonard Marshall crushed Joe Montana. If he had cut Marshall when he had the chance the 9ers probably have 6 rings today.

    5. BTW id any of you notice that the league ruled that there was nothing CHEAP or ILLEGAL about the hit!

  29. mnlogic says: Aug 27, 2013 8:18 PM

    As a Viking fan, it’s hard to see Viking players do one thing and say ANOTHER. I will say the same thing I said after Greg Jennings comments about his old team. “Shut your mouth, play football”. Please…

  30. gregrrr says: Aug 27, 2013 8:27 PM

    There must be a bounty system in place.

  31. thepvyharvin says: Aug 27, 2013 8:27 PM

    pack13queens0 says:
    Aug 27, 2013 7:56 PM
    Typical whining from Vikings players & fans. I told all of you it was a clean hit but nobody listened. Goes to show Vikings fans are the least knowledgeable in the NFL. Pathetic.
    ====================================
    Ok beer brain, take out the gerbil and listen up. You Pack fans are a direct reflection of your current state of affairs in Green Bay. Your idiot GM has maybe the best QB in the NFL and WON’T protect him! Crosby can’t kick because of mental issues and yet he is your man. Your boy Fridge,er I mean Lacy will be a bust. You guys are disintegrating..In Spielman we trust!!

  32. clayminator says: Aug 27, 2013 8:33 PM

    I agree mnlogic….this would be like the Vikings fanbase talking about how cool it is to root for a Championship team….just makes no sense.

  33. pecosbob says: Aug 27, 2013 8:33 PM

    Should have interviewed Ritchie Incognito instead – only thing he’s good at is trying to break people’s legs.

  34. garyhd01 says: Aug 27, 2013 8:35 PM

    too many comments to read them all but I have seen jared play and while I don’t think he ever said im gonna ruin this guys knee I don’t think looney was thinking that either. watch nascar they do stupid crap then look at the replay and say oops my bad looney said it wasn’t on purpose ill take him at his word now if allen can go thru the year w/o any questionable hits he can speak to the issue next time

  35. fijabbersman345 says: Aug 27, 2013 8:40 PM

    packerenglishmajor says:
    Aug 27, 2013 6:53 PM
    It is my duty as a Packer fan to post on a Viking story and remind anyone who will listen that the Packers have won some superbowls.

    Yada, yada, Clay Mathews, yada yada, Arron Rodgers and did I forget to say anything negative about Jared Allen or that the Vikings never won a superbowl . . .

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    Hey isn’t packerenglishmajor an oxymoron?

  36. fijabbersman345 says: Aug 27, 2013 8:42 PM

    clayminator says:
    Aug 27, 2013 8:33 PM
    I agree mnlogic….this would be like the Vikings fanbase talking about how cool it is to root for a Championship team….just makes no sense.

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    Vikings actually won an NFL Championship in 1969, go look it up. Not that I expect Packer fans to actually read in to something they talk about. Or read at all.

  37. sdjay76 says: Aug 27, 2013 8:45 PM

    put your like or dislike for allen aside. this was a dirty hit plain and simple. you don’t need a rule book or a yellow flag to know a play was dirty.

  38. billhicks666 says: Aug 27, 2013 8:51 PM

    84smooninlambeaunevergetsold says:

    “Because of this, Allen just turned on the nitrous. I’m feeling bad for any QB that’s going to face him this year.

    He is going to break the sack record, this year.”

    Geez, shut up already with your man crush for Jared Allen. And if anybody’s going to break that sack record, it’s JJ Watt.

  39. theytukrjobs says: Aug 27, 2013 8:52 PM

    The hit was super dirty. There was no intent other than to cause injury. Within the rules? Sure. But dirty as hell especially for a preseason game.

    Watch the replay. Seriously. Dude just ducks down and dives into Williams’ knee for no reason. He could have leveled Williams with a blast to the chest and we’d all be like “damn nice hit”.

  40. lpcustom73 says: Aug 27, 2013 8:52 PM

    Anyone that can defend Looney hasn’t seen the hit or they’re simply an idiot… And unfortunately, idiots run in PACKS!

  41. 4ever9er says: Aug 27, 2013 9:00 PM

    fijabbersman345 says: Aug 27, 2013 8:42 PM

    clayminator says:
    Aug 27, 2013 8:33 PM
    I agree mnlogic….this would be like the Vikings fanbase talking about how cool it is to root for a Championship team….just makes no sense.

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    Vikings actually won an NFL Championship in 1969, go look it up. Not that I expect Packer fans to actually read in to something they talk about. Or read at all.
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    Vikings didn’t win an NFL Championship, they won an NFC Championship, got throttled in the SB vs the Chiefs! I think that in the NFL only SB wins count and therefore the Vikes have ZERO!!!

  42. 4ever9er says: Aug 27, 2013 9:02 PM

    lpcustom73 says: Aug 27, 2013 8:52 PM

    Anyone that can defend Looney hasn’t seen the hit or they’re simply an idiot… And unfortunately, idiots run in PACKS!
    ———————————————————-lp you’re correct idiots run in PACKS, now remove yourself from the Pack of whiners claiming it’s a cheap shot! It wasn’t and the league says so!

  43. bobnelsonjr says: Aug 27, 2013 9:03 PM

    For the record, I’m not a fan of loud mouthed alcohol abusing whiners like Allen, especially when they have a reputation for cheap shots like fists to groin.

    Such hypocrisy is revolting.

  44. 4ever9er says: Aug 27, 2013 9:10 PM

    sdjay76 commented on Jared Allen sounds off on Looney’s low hit.

    put your like or dislike for allen aside. this was a dirty hit plain and simple. you don’t need a rule book or a yellow flag to know a play was dirty.
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    Actually you do need to know the rule book, because if you did you would understand that cut blocks are legal, that’s why there wasn’t a flag and that’s why there isn’t a fine or suspension.
    A chop block is dirty, cut blocks are not!

  45. gbmickey says: Aug 27, 2013 9:10 PM

    Pervy do you read and actually think about what you write before you hit submit? Your gm dumpster dives our gm’s trash and our gm is an idiot? Our gm has flat out owned the vikings and won a Super Bowl and been voted executive of the year twice. Based on that I will take our idiot anyday. Good luck with Ponder.

  46. 49erstim says: Aug 27, 2013 9:12 PM

    @packerenglishmajor…..well played sir….you could’ve mentioned the Super Bowl trophy awarded to the winner of said championship game is named in honor of Packer coaching legend Vince Lombari….but of course Vikings fans have never seen one!.. .just a suggestion though if you really wanna salt the wound! :-D

  47. gromgrimfist says: Aug 27, 2013 9:14 PM

    Allen complaining about a cheap shot is like an obese person eating a triple cheese burger and complaining they’re fat at the same time twice been voted the dirtiest player in football

  48. ricardocabeza says: Aug 27, 2013 9:18 PM

    Jared Allen hit Lance Louis so hard in a blind side launching hit that he knocked a 300 pound lineman clean off his feet, tearing his ACL. At the time Lance Louis was the only bright spot us Bears fans had on our O line. Jared Allen is a big mouth classless act who only sees cheap hits when they are not being committed by himself or his teammates. Looney’s hit was totally low class, but it is right in Jared’s wheelhouse. Sit down and shut up Allen.

  49. clayminator says: Aug 27, 2013 9:29 PM

    fijabbersman345 says: Aug 27, 2013 8:42 PM

    clayminator says:
    Aug 27, 2013 8:33 PM
    I agree mnlogic….this would be like the Vikings fanbase talking about how cool it is to root for a Championship team….just makes no sense.

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    Vikings actually won an NFL Championship in 1969, go look it up. Not that I expect Packer fans to actually read in to something they talk about. Or read at all.

    ————————–

    and then as a huge favorite the vikes got slapped 27-7 by the Chiefs in the Super Bowl

    I’m sure it must be fun to re-live those fond memories!

  50. firestarter0728 says: Aug 27, 2013 9:38 PM

    fijabbersman345 says:
    Vikings actually won an NFL Championship in 1969, go look it up.
    ———————————
    LOL….you’re really reaching now. NFL champions don’t finish second. Ask a KC Chiefs fan who the real champions of football were that year.

  51. earpaniac says: Aug 27, 2013 9:39 PM

    The Looney hit was questionable. Do I think he meant to hurt him? No. But Jared Allen shouldn’t talk. Considering Louis just got released, and his career is likely over. Do I think Allen tried to injure him? No. But this will happen.

  52. jrmbadger says: Aug 27, 2013 10:02 PM

    The hit may have been legal according to the NFL, but it wasn’t right. From what I’ve heard Looney himself regrets it.

    Hopefully Williams comes back. As others have stated, I want the Vikings at full strength when they play the Packers so neither team has any excuse.

  53. jrmbadger says: Aug 27, 2013 10:03 PM

    lpcustom73 says:
    Aug 27, 2013 8:52 PM
    Anyone that can defend Looney hasn’t seen the hit or they’re simply an idiot… And unfortunately, idiots run in PACKS!
    =========================

    What do the Minnesota Timberwolves have to do with this?

  54. 33vikes says: Aug 27, 2013 10:03 PM

    It may have been legal. It certainly wasn’t clean. There is a line and the SF lineman crossed it. Regardless of what team you might be a fan of.

  55. thehawg says: Aug 27, 2013 10:10 PM

    Looney hit Williams low, but didn’t use helmet or shoulder pads.

  56. stellarperformance says: Aug 27, 2013 10:19 PM

    “Legal, doesn’t make it right.”

    -signed, Chad Clifton

  57. whatjusthapped says: Aug 27, 2013 10:25 PM

    84smooninlambeaunevergetsold says:

    Roadkill and Grain Belts? Sorry, but Jared gave up drinking years ago.

    Do your research, before you talk about IQs.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Do I have to explain everything? The Grain Belt reference is a dual knock, its a super cheap beer and you would think at $17 million in salary, if Jared decided to drink a beer, it wouldn’t be the same swill you drink.

    I realize Jared has claimed to give up drinking but if you know anything about alcoholics, they tend to lie a lot. Now I don’t know if he gave up drinking or not, but the point is, neither do you.

  58. nekelund says: Aug 27, 2013 10:45 PM

    So when Allen inevitably has to cough up several hundred thousand dollars because he hits an opposing QB low in the same way Looney hit Williams, I assume that he will graciously accept his punishment, recognizing the error of his ways.

  59. justanacehole says: Aug 27, 2013 10:56 PM

    Is this the same Jared Allen that hit another dude in the weiner?

  60. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Aug 27, 2013 11:17 PM

    Allen wasn’t arguing that the hit was illegal, he was arguing that it should be illegal. Regardless of whether Allen has had some questionable hits, the point is still valid.

  61. Carl Gerbschmidt says: Aug 27, 2013 11:23 PM

    @fjabber

    That’s right, they won the Ed Thorpe memorial trophy. You should go see it some time, of that’s right, you can’t because the Vikes LOST IT, in can’t make it up fashion. I actually heard Joe Kapo stole it.

  62. thetokyosandblasteratgmaildotcom says: Aug 27, 2013 11:29 PM

    valhallarising, send me an email and you can be in the league.

  63. johnelwayishorsefaced says: Aug 27, 2013 11:30 PM

    It was a legal hit and Jared Allen is an idiot.

  64. vikingfan1971 says: Aug 27, 2013 11:43 PM

    okay for all of you guys bashing allen he has a right to say what he wants. I rewatched the play and where williams was hurt was not even near the play and the 49ers player was helmet down to williams knees it was purposeful and should be illegal and he should be fined as allen and others get fined.
    I am glad that williams is not as bad as it could have been.

  65. ahs2 says: Aug 27, 2013 11:54 PM

    Snatching flags off a belt may not be too far off…

  66. gdeli says: Aug 28, 2013 9:12 PM

    This should help The Vikings camaraderie

  67. filthymcnasty1 says: Aug 28, 2013 10:36 PM

    Jared Allen is a cheap shot artist who once rabbit punched a defenseless player right in the peanuts.

  68. twobluegills says: Aug 30, 2013 9:05 AM

    Hey Mike, Jared Allen is a dirty player and possibly an inbred hick from the movie Deliverance. He is so dirty that his number is 69, I would not want my kid to look up to anyone like that.

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