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NFL now says Packers, not 49ers, benefitted from officials’ mistake

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Referee Bill Leavy admitted after Sunday’s Packers-49ers game that his crew botched a call after Green Bay’s Clay Matthews and San Francisco’s Joe Staley both drew personal fouls, and that the officials’ mistake benefitted the 49ers.

But that’s not quite right.

The NFL now says it was the Packers, not the 49ers, who benefitted from the officials’ mistake on the play, because Staley shouldn’t have been flagged in the first place. The league office reviewed the play and determined that while Matthews was rightly called for a late hit on 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick, the official who threw the flag on Staley for getting in Matthews’ face after running over to protect Kaepernick should not have done so.

In other words, if the entire play had been properly called, it would have been first-and-goal for the 49ers at the 3-yard line on the next play. Instead, the officials made it tougher for the 49ers by making them re-play third down after the offsetting penalties. The officials erred in their enforcement of the offsetting penalties, which appeared to benefit the 49ers, but in reality there never should have been offsetting penalties to enforce in the first place. Only the Packers should have been penalized.

Some may say it’s a moot point because the 49ers scored a touchdown on that third-down play anyway. But either way, the league has confirmed that this play was botched, in more ways than one. And because the 49ers scored a touchdown, the two wrongs equaled a right for San Francisco.

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205 Responses to “NFL now says Packers, not 49ers, benefitted from officials’ mistake”
  1. linemanguy74 says: Sep 9, 2013 11:47 AM

    more packer tears coming after this report

  2. m2karateman says: Sep 9, 2013 11:50 AM

    Actually, Staley should never have been flagged, and Matthews should have been flagged TWICE. Once for the late hit (he also could have been flagged for going after the head as well), and once for the punch on Staley. The referees also should have automatically thrown Matthews out of the game for throwing that punch.

    The officials in the NFL are getting worse every year.

  3. eaglesw00t says: Sep 9, 2013 11:51 AM

    I concur completely. The flag on Staley was bogus. Matthews was completely in the wrong on both counts.

    It is irrelevant because they scored, but after seeing so many Packer tears in the first thread about this, no way do they back down from crying foul now.

  4. kriswd40 says: Sep 9, 2013 11:51 AM

    Karma wins in the end.

  5. ninersteve says: Sep 9, 2013 11:52 AM

    Matthews is a dirty player. He should’ve been ejected for the late hit and hitting Staley TWICE.

  6. mattson01 says: Sep 9, 2013 11:52 AM

    Nonsense!! The officials on the field screwed up, and now the ivory-tower officials are screwing up. How about just admitting the field guys screwed up and move on….otherwise, this sounds extremely petty for the head office.

  7. Born: 1961 Titles seen: 0 says: Sep 9, 2013 11:53 AM

    You would think that a money making machine like the NFL would be able to produce competent referees.

  8. greej1938l says: Sep 9, 2013 11:53 AM

    Buncha cheaters on the west coast I say!!

  9. golforepar says: Sep 9, 2013 11:53 AM

    Staley shows up 5 seconds late, with nothing going on is justified? The NFL is trying to cover for blatent calls against the Packers 2 years in a row!

  10. kirkmall84 says: Sep 9, 2013 11:53 AM

    The blame goes on McCarthy. Why did he accept a 5 yard penalty on the play before which would have put the 49ers in fourth down and they probably kick the FG. 4 point swing and a bad decision. Cost the Packers the game.

  11. scmems07 says: Sep 9, 2013 11:54 AM

    wow, talk about procteting a team goodell, san fran, the new miami heat.

    what a joke

  12. thekiller678 says: Sep 9, 2013 11:54 AM

    That’s what I didn’t get originally.. Staley was just defending his QB. Matthews should have been tossed. Not for the hit but the fact he was throwing punches afterwards.

    Packer fans will still complain though.

  13. willbow5253 says: Sep 9, 2013 11:54 AM

    THANK you! Geez, it’s amazing how quickly you sensationalists wanted to deem that play “The Packers get jobbed again on the west coast”. In reality, the 49ers should’ve had the ball first and goal from the 2 yards line after that play, not 3rd and 6.

    The only story stemming from that play should’ve been how Clay Matthews launched himself at a player who was CLEARLY out of bounds and grabbed him by the neck and chock slammed him into the ground. If that had been Peyton Manning, Clay would’ve played his last down in the NFL this season.

  14. scmems07 says: Sep 9, 2013 11:54 AM

    *protecting

  15. jbaxt says: Sep 9, 2013 11:55 AM

    Mathews might be the most overrated player in the league. And he’s a flopper, begging refs for holding calls. Mans game! Grow up clay.

  16. brooklynniner19 says: Sep 9, 2013 11:55 AM

    !Actually CLAY ‘Late hit” Mathews should of been thrown out for throwing to jabs at Staleys face. But w.e 49eers still won and covered the spread for me. ;) Sea-haggs your next. Go 9ers

  17. packhawk04 says: Sep 9, 2013 11:56 AM

    Truth be told, matthews is the only player who would ever committ a late hit and throw a non-existent punch. Because hes the only one to commit such atrocities, i think matthews shouldve been tied to a chair and all niner fans gotten one shot on him.

  18. natelan69 says: Sep 9, 2013 11:56 AM

    It won’t be long before a Clay Matthews-type player gets the hit on Kaep that we’ve all been waiting for, and he limps off the field RG3-style and the 49ers return to the revolving mediocratic form of the last decade.

  19. bordner says: Sep 9, 2013 11:57 AM

    For a team that was irrelevant only a few short years ago, the 49ers and their fans have quickly become the biggest group of whiners in the league. Even Raider fans are more respected than them.

  20. 5wide says: Sep 9, 2013 11:57 AM

    Not a fan of either team, but you know the NFL would comment in a way to absolve them in the process. Funny how they are mum on many other blown calls, and only comment on the ones that would be to their benefit.

  21. jazsrt says: Sep 9, 2013 11:57 AM

    Excuses are like….well you know…

    Everyone has one.

    At least they didn’t ‘beat themselves’ again.

  22. packhawk04 says: Sep 9, 2013 11:58 AM

    Best part of that hit was kaepernick shouldve gotten that first down. Matthews was going full speed trying to stop him, kaep saw him, and ran straight out of bounds like a wuss.

    Not intimidated though, no sir.

  23. wamj2008 says: Sep 9, 2013 11:58 AM

    Kaep is just glad that his Dolphins won.

  24. bgrillz says: Sep 9, 2013 11:58 AM

    riiigghhhhtttt….Rather than take full blame for another blatant error, let’s deflect blame, on the crew as a whole, and say that Staley was incorrectly penalized…give me a break. This league never ceases to amaze me. This God complex it has is absurd.

  25. houstonpackfan says: Sep 9, 2013 11:59 AM

    As a Packer fan, I agree with this assessment. It was an embarrassing sequence of events in an otherwise entertaining game. I can understand trying to instill a tough mentality, but do it the right way.

  26. mrsingh24 says: Sep 9, 2013 12:00 PM

    That’s a good way for the NFL to cover up the blunders of the refs.

  27. lambeaurules says: Sep 9, 2013 12:00 PM

    I totally agree with this assessment. Mathews was the sole culprit and this coming from a Packer fan. Mathews admitted after the game that it was a stupid move on his part and owned up to it. What is irritating about it is that Mathews does this and now all of a sudden he is the dirtiest player in the NFL! Some of you need to really get a clue, he never does this stuff and the one time he does you morons totally over-react to it. That said, cant wait for the rematch in the play-offs, gonna be awesome! Congrats to the Niners!

  28. scmems07 says: Sep 9, 2013 12:00 PM

    i cant even imagine what a thanksgiving is like in the harbaugh family house

    brother jim: THIS TURKEY IS UNDERCOOKED!!! YOU KNOW I DONT LIKE BUTTER ON MY MASHED POTATOES!!! WHY IS THERE NO STUFFING THIS YEAR!!!

    all the while brother john is sacrificing his own plate (ravens) handing him more food (boldin) just to keep him happy because brother john is not hungry anymore and the parents (roger goodell) are trying as hard as they can to make brother jim happy.

    dont worry brother jim, the league will make a rule so your precious qb can take his time on wether he wants to run or pass while the defense waits around, stop the complaining please.

  29. Norseman says: Sep 9, 2013 12:01 PM

    Glad that was clarified so we don’t have to hear Packer fans whining again all year again.

    Matthews should have been flagged for the late hit, and he should have been flagged again for throwing punches. He should be fined and suspended for throwing punches too.

  30. calicokiller49 says: Sep 9, 2013 12:01 PM

    if Mathews wasnt good for that game he wouldve got ejected. McCarthy is kind of running a loose ship over there, though.

  31. abqpacker says: Sep 9, 2013 12:01 PM

    Packer fan here. I was so upset with Clay Matthews for the blatant late hit after they’d had held on third down. If he just doesn’t do that, there is nothing else to talk about here. I love him as a player, but that was inexcusably dumb.

  32. claymatthewshair says: Sep 9, 2013 12:01 PM

    I’m a Packers fan and I can honestly say…who cares? The game is over, we lost. Move on. It was nice to see the Packers D play with some passion and physicality…we seem to be an improved team from last year. At this point, SF is still just better. Hopefully we get another shot at them.

  33. bigbaldpapahawk says: Sep 9, 2013 12:02 PM

    Doesn’t matter, it is all done. There is gonna be a brawl in Seattle on Sunday night.

    I love how tough San Fran is and Kaepernick is a legit threat at QB. I cannot wait to see how my beloved Seahawks stand up to it.

  34. asimonetti88 says: Sep 9, 2013 12:02 PM

    This play happened in the second quarter. The Packers had every chance to win the game after this. In fact, they had the lead in the 4th quarter.

    If the Packers want to place blame for the loss, they should place blame on themselves for not stopping the 49ers on multiple key 3rd downs during the stretch, when they had the lead.

    Both teams played well. I fully expect to see the Packers again in the playoffs.

  35. smcgaels1997 says: Sep 9, 2013 12:02 PM

    Staley shows up 5 seconds late, with nothing going on is justified? The NFL is trying to cover for blatent calls against the Packers 2 years in a row!
    _________________________________

    Seriously? So sticking up for your guy when Matthews was a punk? Keep living in your dreamworld

  36. jack3dsd says: Sep 9, 2013 12:03 PM

    Does anyone in the NFL know what’s going on?

  37. sampsonswag01 says: Sep 9, 2013 12:03 PM

    packhawk04 says:
    Sep 9, 2013 11:58 AM
    Best part of that hit was kaepernick shouldve gotten that first down. Matthews was going full speed trying to stop him, kaep saw him, and ran straight out of bounds like a wuss.

    Not intimidated though, no sir.

    ——————————

    So when Rogers runs out of bounds it’s safe to assume he’s intimidated as well going off your logic. Kaepernick is smart and knows he doesn’t need to take pointless hits. And “wuss” don’t shred your useless defense for 415 yards.

    What’s so funny is that it’s obvious the 49ers are deeply under the Packers skin. And the loss from last year, well 2 losses, and now this loss just continue to compound the issue.

    #packareownedby49ers

  38. xtutx says: Sep 9, 2013 12:03 PM

    The NFL is doing whatever it can to cover it’s you know what. To be honest it’s pathetic. Bad call or not, make statement and move on.

    But having to revise, go back and make it so it didn’t cost the game if one believed it did, weak.

    The thing is the flags were thrown, those aren’t reviewable. Under the Pansy League, Staley easily could get flagged on that play, now it’s ok to retaliate because how the outcome happened?

    It’s just really weak that they feel that they have to continue to revise this until all seems justified in the end.

  39. crosbee says: Sep 9, 2013 12:04 PM

    As a Packers fan, I agree completely. Don’t think Matthews’ hit was the atrocity of the century, but Staley was doing what anybody in his position would have, and I thought showed a lot of constraint actually. We had nothing to complain about on that one.

  40. scmems07 says: Sep 9, 2013 12:04 PM

    after the packers went up, roger goodell was calling every scientist in the world trying to figure out a way to make the sun go out.

  41. tombradyswig says: Sep 9, 2013 12:04 PM

    and we don’t have full time refs WHY??~?~??~?~?~??~??~

  42. smcgaels1997 says: Sep 9, 2013 12:04 PM

    Best part of that hit was kaepernick shouldve gotten that first down. Matthews was going full speed trying to stop him, kaep saw him, and ran straight out of bounds like a wuss.

    Not intimidated though, no sir.
    _________________________________
    Not a need too..but I guess lump heads like you don’t get it. Clearly you didn’t watch the game to think SF or anyone in anyway remotely feared anything GB had to offer.

  43. wolfwithlightsaber says: Sep 9, 2013 12:05 PM

    1.. He is a QB, and its the first game, cant afford to get an injury so early in season, he is coached to run out of bounds or slide.

    2. After all the hype this week Matthews should have been tossed, in fact he laid down another late hit later on in the game post KAP dishing the ball.

    3. There is a fine line between intensity and stupidity, Clay, take note that you played a little south of the stupidity line.

    4. I like both these teams, and it was one hell of a game it only adds to the mystique of this matchup, good for the NFL. But either way, the 9ers prevailed and it wasn’t because of a good or bad call.

  44. albinorhino49 says: Sep 9, 2013 12:05 PM

    I sense a pop drug test for Mr. Mathews coming very soon.

  45. boiler72 says: Sep 9, 2013 12:05 PM

    I’m a Packer fan and have zero tears over this loss – could care less, frankly. I got the last Super Bowl we needed – the one that shoved it up Favre’s ass. Game over.

    But, continue on with your Packer hating. None of us give two craps, lol.

  46. jnovi86 says: Sep 9, 2013 12:06 PM

    It seemed for a while there I was the only person who saw that. Glad they at least acknowledged they were wrong.

  47. smcgaels1997 says: Sep 9, 2013 12:06 PM

    Funny how now SF are whiners? Did y’all morons not read all the GB fans crying foul yesterday? Didn’t think so.

  48. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Sep 9, 2013 12:07 PM

    That seems like a long-winded way of saying the refs suck.

  49. cmich2006 says: Sep 9, 2013 12:07 PM

    Rogers minions are already covering of the conspiracy to get the 49ers to win the Super Bowl this year

  50. MasMacho says: Sep 9, 2013 12:08 PM

    Weird how the Pucker fans always feel like they’re getting wronged by the officials. I detect a theme here.

  51. jack3dsd says: Sep 9, 2013 12:08 PM

    Mathews is over rated? Are you kidding he is a one man defense. He is always making tackles behind the line on run plays and is pressuring on passing plays. Did you even watch the game? Clay is always calling out what the offense wants to do based on his film study. The guy is a physical freak with an attitude and a brain.

  52. vermonator says: Sep 9, 2013 12:08 PM

    Packer fans… You’re out of line, Mathews played dirty and don’t try to sugar coat it. The one Paker fan is right, blame McCarthy he made the lame-brain call to give Kaep another chance.

  53. philtration says: Sep 9, 2013 12:08 PM

    I used to be sick of the Packers and their fans whining and crying all the time but now I actually like it.
    Week one and they already have their built in excuse for the season.

    Let us hear your pathetic wail Packer fans!
    No one can scream and cry like an 8 year old girl that was stung like a bee the way you do.

  54. puckfitt says: Sep 9, 2013 12:09 PM

    Whatever the call was or should have been, it didnt cost the Packers the game. 412 yds and 3 TDs cost them the game.

  55. mogogo1 says: Sep 9, 2013 12:09 PM

    I wasn’t rooting for either team, but on the replay I couldn’t see what Staley had done. But it did look like Matthews came awfully close to throwing a punch. He was lucky to not get ejected.

    And getting back to the overall ruling. It strikes me as a bit wrong that a first down run and a late hit could be wiped out by a dead ball unsportsmanlike conduct penalty in the aftermath of the late hit. I can see the two penalties offsetting, but I’d say the fairest thing would be to just have the play spotted where it had ended in that event.

  56. sactomkiii says: Sep 9, 2013 12:11 PM

    Still confused why it even matters. Niners won by 6 pts not 3. The ‘extra’ 4 points didn’t matter since niners had the ball at the end anyways.

  57. peytonwantsaflag says: Sep 9, 2013 12:13 PM

    BS, they’re deflecting, the issue is that they botched the rule of the call they made on the field. Are they going to go back and re-look at ALL the calls on Sunday now?

  58. citynative says: Sep 9, 2013 12:14 PM

    This meeting it was the refs and that 2 members of the GB secondary were out. In the playoffs, it was that the Niners “surprised” the Packers defense with the read-option. And I forget what the excuse was when Alex Smith beat the Pack at Lambeau last year. I guess the Packers dont lose, its always something else that contributes to it.

    Bottomline is you are getting beat by a better team. Not to mention, the Niners did not have 2 of there top 3 wide receivers, LaMichael James, and their second best cornerback who matched up with Jordy Nelson last year. In addition to the Pack signing the Niners 2 backup QB’s for the answers to the playbook.

  59. tfaulk says: Sep 9, 2013 12:15 PM

    I thought this was obvious from the get go. We see this a lot… when an official makes a bad call and they realize so, they try to come up with a clear compromise that ends up being a clear violation of the rules.

    Staley got flagged much too quickly… And he looked to just be standing his ground for his QBs sake… meanwhile there was much pushing, grabbing, manhandling of him since he was in the middle.

    So… someone through a flag too quick… and rather than picking it up, they came up with a compromise… by breaking the rules!

  60. JSpicoli says: Sep 9, 2013 12:15 PM

    The cover-up, and this excuse, are always worse than the crime.

  61. albinorhino49 says: Sep 9, 2013 12:15 PM

    scmems07 says:
    Sep 9, 2013 12:00 PM
    i cant even imagine what a thanksgiving is like in the harbaugh family house

    brother jim: THIS TURKEY IS UNDERCOOKED!!! YOU KNOW I DONT LIKE BUTTER ON MY MASHED POTATOES!!! WHY IS THERE NO STUFFING THIS YEAR!!!

    all the while brother john is sacrificing his own plate (ravens) handing him more food (boldin) just to keep him happy because brother john is not hungry anymore and the parents (roger goodell) are trying as hard as they can to make brother jim happy.

    dont worry brother jim, the league will make a rule so your precious qb can take his time on wether he wants to run or pass while the defense waits around, stop the complaining please.

    Wha? STHU! The packer fans are whining yet you bring Jim into this. Kaep will be a league leader in passing and rushing for years to come. Check the dudes college stats, he can do it ALL. No special rules needed, get used to it.

  62. txtuff says: Sep 9, 2013 12:15 PM

    At the start of this game I really didn’t care who won or lost just wanted to see a good game. But after that dirty play by Matthews and then him hitting and grabbing Staley’s facemask I had to pull for San Fran.

  63. hammertoe11 says: Sep 9, 2013 12:16 PM

    Was that a replacement ref ? Did the Refs on strike again? And we wasn’t told about it? LMAO.. Heck the fight was better then the game was.

  64. vgferenzi says: Sep 9, 2013 12:17 PM

    So basically they confirmed what everyone except Packers fans knew already.

  65. tokyosandb1aster says: Sep 9, 2013 12:17 PM

    boiler72 says:
    Sep 9, 2013 12:05 PM
    I’m a Packer fan and have zero tears over this loss – could care less, frankly. I got the last Super Bowl we needed – the one that shoved it up Favre’s ass. Game over.
    ———————–
    Okaaay. You don’t care. Sonething about Brett Favre’s ass…. Sure. Got it.

  66. biggestsaintsfanever says: Sep 9, 2013 12:17 PM

    NFL is just covering their ass. Should have been 4th and 2.

  67. dstep24 says: Sep 9, 2013 12:17 PM

    kriswd40 says:
    Sep 9, 2013 11:51 AM
    Karma wins in the end.
    ______________

    A coach that shoves another, a QB that makes out with his own bicep, a linebacker who crushes his teammate’s face with a bottle, a defensive end who drives drunk and fires guns off his balcony…..equates to good Karma?

    Pretty sweet deal for SF.

  68. getyourownname says: Sep 9, 2013 12:22 PM

    I’m not a fan of either team but this sounds like extreme backfilling by the League just to CYA (“yes we goofed, but it doesn’t really matter”).

    I am not saying the penalty on Staley was OK, or that Matthews wasn’t guilty of two infractions. But refs could second-guess, post-game, many judgment calls made during the game. We know it’s extremely common for refs not to see the first actor involving post-whistle activity, yet how often do they later say they should have made a different call in such a case?

    You have to evaluate refs’ enforcement based on the calls that WERE made – in other words, on the facts as the refs accepted them at the time, not as the League later revises them so as to minimize the effect of errors. With that in mind, the refs’ error on downs hurt the Packers and might have affected the game outcome.

    While we might expect a 1st down in the 4 is better than a 3d down on the 15, it’s not that simple. A first and goal close to goal line reduces the amount of room receivers have to work in and can make pass defense easier. The Giants struggled last night with a 1st and goal at the 1.

    The League is just spinning to try to show their actions did not really affect the game outcome.

  69. jcf78 says: Sep 9, 2013 12:22 PM

    Packer fans stop crying!!! Late hit and that’s hit !!!! U wanna call foul on staley then u have to call double foul on Matthews and ejection!!! Even though it was a slap the rule is there!!

    Sf is the new Miami heat!!! Whoever wrote this is definitely a windbag!!! If that’s true my friend jimmy smith would have been called for illegal contact on that fourth down play to end the Super Bowl

  70. granadafan says: Sep 9, 2013 12:23 PM

    The play was 100% the fault of Clay Matthews. He was trying to hit Kaep as hard as he could no matter what. He launched himself and took Kaep out with a clothesline around the neck. He should have been ejected for that alone and then again after punching Staley. I like the Packers, but you Pack fans are 100% wrong about this. Roid rage Clay tried to take out the QB.

  71. pillowporkers says: Sep 9, 2013 12:25 PM

    Clay Mathews = ROID RAGE

  72. fanaticks says: Sep 9, 2013 12:25 PM

    Packer fans should be upset that they are being supported here by the low life Seattle fans.

  73. swagger52 says: Sep 9, 2013 12:26 PM

    Small market teams always lose..

    Staley arrived late to insert himself..that at least when the Ravens do it…is a foul.

    Same is true with Anquan Boldin. When Anquan Boldin shoves a CB to get open for SF it is not a foul.
    When Anquan Boldin does it last year in Philadelphia to win the game, then it is Offensive Interference.

    This is nothing more than NFL always plays favorites with the large market teams. Their NEW analysis only makes it worse. How many after the point analysis have then done with Brady getting the benefit of a penalty? Answer: None.

  74. trollhammer20 says: Sep 9, 2013 12:26 PM

    brooklynniner19 says: Sep 9, 2013 11:55 AM

    !Actually CLAY ‘Late hit” Mathews should of been thrown out for throwing to jabs at Staleys face. But w.e 49eers still won and covered the spread for me. ;) Sea-haggs your next. Go 9ers
    ______________________________

    Lucky thing for you your team plays better than you type….or attempt to type.

    You really should be paying attention in English class instead of surfing the web, kid.

  75. manhandler1 says: Sep 9, 2013 12:27 PM

    Actually, Mathews consumes more steroids than some of the other players. It’s what makes him more aggressive. If anyone thinks that most all of them aren’t juicing, they’re delusional. The NFL has a test program alright…..it’s called the wink, wink, nod, nod test program.

  76. stealthjunk says: Sep 9, 2013 12:27 PM

    Wow, so the NFL’s defense to bad officiating is “well, we actually screwed up twice!” Not a Packers or 49ers fan, but I must say that kind of admission really inspires confidence. Funny how usually they deny the mistake and defend the ref, but in this case they’re more than happy to admit they made multiple mistakes. The league has no conscience.

  77. newlydead says: Sep 9, 2013 12:28 PM

    being a long time Buc fan i really dislike the Packers so anything to go against them i’m a fan of but this story …. please, how many times do you see people flagged for “sticking up” for their teammates? how many times do you see not the first guy to throw a punch but the guy who retaliates get the flag thrown against him? it happens all the time in the NFL, all the time! The front office releasing this statement is just them trying to smooth over the fact that the refs blew the call, or better yet the ruling on the field. just man up to it and move on to next week.

  78. kylexitron says: Sep 9, 2013 12:28 PM

    Anyone outside of GB have any sympathy for these crybabies anymore? Talk about tainting the legacy of a storied franchise with bitter tears.

  79. threedeep1998 says: Sep 9, 2013 12:28 PM

    Love it. Stop crying Packer fans. Give credit to the much superior 49ers and stop saying “See you in Jan!” non sense. Your defense is terrible once again and have a much harder schedule this year.

  80. melissachambers says: Sep 9, 2013 12:30 PM

    What’s funny is that after the refs admitted blowing the 4th down yesterday, all I heard was some version of, “we can go all day long with what calls weren’t made on both sides but bottom line is it wouldn’t have made a difference in the end blah blah who cares, quit whining..” Yet now you’re jumping on this one by agreeing and whining about the bad call now that its coming from the other side and benefiting the Pack??

    Make up your minds, fellas.

  81. pdxninerfan says: Sep 9, 2013 12:30 PM

    This will be corrected again I think. Assuming Staley did something wrong…(I think Matthews instigated, but let’s go with what we have):

    Out of bounds hit results in the 1st and Goal on the 3yd line. After the play, 15 yds on Staley wither backs them up 15 (1st and Goal from 18 or 1st and 10 from 18).

    For Staley to get nothing means that every time a QB is pushed OOB, then let’s go beat up the other team…doesn’t sound right.

    That said, nothing would have happened if Matthews didn’t do something stupid. GB has no one to blame for that.

  82. fubarry says: Sep 9, 2013 12:30 PM

    Fine that crew and be done with it. Need full time refs!

  83. jdhein22 says: Sep 9, 2013 12:31 PM

    NFL’s new motto – Rule #1, the NFL is always right. Rule #2, if the NFL is every wrong, see Rule #1.

  84. dirtyjersey9er says: Sep 9, 2013 12:34 PM

    Thank you Packers fans who are rational and know Clay was being an idiot.

    To the fans who are acting like Clay was called for an unjust penalty let me point you to a similar play when the Packers had the ball.

    Rodgers ran out of bounds and Navarro Bowman could have easily done the same thing to Rodgers that Matthews did to Kaepernick. You know what Bowman did though? He saw Rodgers was starting to step out of bounds so he let off so as to not have his team hit with a personal foul. Bowman was actually closer than Matthews was to Kaepernick now that I think of it.

    That’s what smart players do.

  85. jdhein22 says: Sep 9, 2013 12:34 PM

    Whenever a bunch of 49ers fans do their “new” cool cheer of “Who’s got it better than us? NOBODY”, I just yell back, “Except the Ravens!”

  86. emaix80 says: Sep 9, 2013 12:34 PM

    I don’t care if Joe Staley has my back or not… If there is one guy in the league I would never start with, it would be Clay Mathews.. Can you imagine him in a bar fight?

  87. themilehighchamp says: Sep 9, 2013 12:35 PM

    kirkmall84 says:
    Sep 9, 2013 11:53 AM
    The blame goes on McCarthy. Why did he accept a 5 yard penalty on the play before which would have put the 49ers in fourth down and they probably kick the FG. 4 point swing and a bad decision. Cost the Packers the game.

    I said the same exact thing when I was watching this game. Highly unlikely the Niners go for it on that 4th down. They kick the FG and end up with only 3 instead of 7.

  88. phloorioisanarcissist says: Sep 9, 2013 12:38 PM

    boiler72 says:

    I’m a Packer fan and have zero tears over this loss – could care less, frankly. I got the last Super Bowl we needed – the one that shoved it up Favre’s ass. Game over.

    But, continue on with your Packer hating. None of us give two craps, lol.
    _——————————————————————

    You care so little that you decided to post a reply saying you care so little? Denial is the first step to recovery. Keep telling yourself you don’t care.

    You mad bro? Lol!

  89. souldogdave says: Sep 9, 2013 12:38 PM

    Stuff it, greej. East coast hubris and badmouthing the West makes you a stupid stupid rabblerouser.

  90. barroomhero80 says: Sep 9, 2013 12:38 PM

    Bahahaha and those fudgepacker crybabys will still feel like every ref is out to get them

  91. boiler72 says: Sep 9, 2013 12:39 PM

    tokyosandb1aster says: Sep 9, 2013 12:17 PM

    boiler72 says:
    Sep 9, 2013 12:05 PM
    I’m a Packer fan and have zero tears over this loss – could care less, frankly. I got the last Super Bowl we needed – the one that shoved it up Favre’s ass. Game over.
    ———————–
    Okaaay. You don’t care. Sonething about Brett Favre’s ass…. Sure. Got it.

    __________

    I would prefer that the Packers win all of their games. But, in the grand scheme of things, losing the first of 16 games … no, it’s not something I lose any sleep over. As for Favre, it’s obvious that you took his side and … lost. Oh well.

  92. jimthebuilder27 says: Sep 9, 2013 12:39 PM

    Packers fan here, its irrelevant as they did score. And while that hit was illegal, Matthews is not a dirty player. He’s earned the benefit of the doubt, and this was the first personal foul I can ever recall on him.

    This call did not determine the game either. The Packers inability to cover Anquan Boldin was the difference (as well as the 49ers forcing two turnovers and the Packers forcing none).

  93. rhone16 says: Sep 9, 2013 12:39 PM

    I was wondering how long it would take for someone other than a Niners beat writer to point out that Staley just defensively held back Matthews while Matthews threw all the punches.

  94. baddegg says: Sep 9, 2013 12:40 PM

    The NFL went on to say that it was actually the Packers, not the Seahawks, that benefited from Golden Tate’s last second TD reception last year.

  95. johngaltwho says: Sep 9, 2013 12:42 PM

    The NFL really is getting silly about this kind of stuff. If they want to comment on how a rule was applied, it is not with an eye toward trying to justify the outcome. In Seattle last year, the NFL didnt announce that Tate should have been called for the obvious pass interference as given that it wasnt called it wasnt subject to review. Same here. They made the call on Staley, given that, it should have been fourth and two. Its simple. Now anyone who thinks the Packers lost because of that is foolish but still, the NFL should be above trying to reinterpret things after the fact so that they save face like a guilty seven year old.

  96. JackAcid says: Sep 9, 2013 12:42 PM

    a) The 49ers still win if they kick a FG there.
    b) For all we know, they go for it on 4th and get the exact same result any way.

  97. dt58 says: Sep 9, 2013 12:47 PM

    emaix80 says:
    Sep 9, 2013 12:34 PM
    I don’t care if Joe Staley has my back or not… If there is one guy in the league I would never start with, it would be Clay Mathews.. Can you imagine him in a bar fight?

    After watching the game yesterday, I pretty sure once Mathews got touched in that fight he’d flail around and whine for a call. Even Aikman was making fun of the drama program at USC. Need to go the way of the NHL and penalize players trying to draw a flag.

  98. 49erstim says: Sep 9, 2013 12:47 PM

    @MDS…This is my comment from the previous article and to everybody else….you’re welcome…… “To put the finishing touch on that late hit…the whole “offsetting penalties” thing was BS. NO NINER DID ANYTHING WRONG……”

  99. baddegg says: Sep 9, 2013 12:51 PM

    I actually just went and watched the tape of the play. It looks to me like Staley throws a punch/slap to the side of Matthews head. That’s a personal foul.

    No doubt Matthews started it and it was primarily his fault for screwing his team. At the same time, I think the NFL is just trying to cover their tracks.

    It’s ok to admit your mistake and move on. But they are just trying to act like they are “perfect” when in fact they are not.

  100. 49erstim says: Sep 9, 2013 12:55 PM

    @chrismatthewsucks…….I need you to send your Packer stock to 49ers team headquarters. Thank you in advance. :-)

  101. mavajo says: Sep 9, 2013 12:57 PM

    I find this interesting. When it comes to judgement calls, the NFL pretty much never comes out and questions the judgement of the officials. It typically only comments on procedural errors (i.e., incorrect rule enforcement, clock management, etc.).

    I find it interesting that when a ref comes out publicly and admits that they blew a procedural error, that now the NFL is coming out and publicly questioning the judgement call upon which it was predicated.

    I’m sure this has nothing to do with the NFL trying to cover-up a black eye. Nope.

    The Packers had opportunities to win this game, so they can hardly blame the refs. But this instance was just another pathetic indictment of the NFL’s refereeing system.

    The #1 sport in the nation. A multi-billion dollar entity. And they can’t even maintain proper oversight to make sure proper procedures are applied. Inexcusable. They could employ extra eyes watching these games with the ability to intervene and correct mistakes like this, but penny-pinching owners don’t want to undermine their bottom-dollar on those $7 hot dogs and $10 beers.

    At least the MLB has the courtesy to hide behind this facade that they’re trying to maintain the good ol’ “human” element of the game. The NFL doesn’t even bother with that – they’re just plain old cheap and incompetent.

  102. armylz says: Sep 9, 2013 12:58 PM

    The entire Mathews debacle shouldnt even of happened because McCarthy should of declined the previous penalty forcing the niners into 4th and 2. What he was thinking of sending Kappy back on the field for 3rd and 6 I’ll never know.

  103. natepalmer1 says: Sep 9, 2013 1:00 PM

    Yep, Karma wins in the end, the 40whiners get to play the Seahawks next week…I can see the Harbaugh tears right now…By the way, Kantperdink, intimidation doesn’t win a game, but kicking your butt in Seattle does…

  104. bostonian13 says: Sep 9, 2013 1:00 PM

    The NFL has become so sissified that even fans are starting to call physical plays and players “dirty plays and players” like cut it out. One minute you guys call the NFL and Goodell sissies and frail for not allowing the game to be rough but once a player or team become rough and physical they’re dirty!?!? Who cares that Matthews hit the guy while going or being out of bounds and then throwing a punch. Last I checked a punch and a late is far from being football physical, look up and watch how physical the game used to be. Football desperately needs it’s real physicality back, not a skirmish once a week or flags on late pushes, stuff like that. And this is coming from a die hard Pats fan. Oh, and for all the Niner fans calling out the Matthews and Pack fans….remember your head coach is the same guy whining about hitting read option QBs. Last I checked they become runners during that play.

  105. wikipediasaidso says: Sep 9, 2013 1:00 PM

    So, the NFL’s spin on the officiating here is that sometimes two wrongs really do make a right? Awesome.

  106. flik44 says: Sep 9, 2013 1:02 PM

    Soooo… despite all of this, the Packers had a 4th quarter lead. And, they couldn’t hold it. Instead of looking to blame someone else, Packer fan, look at that horrible defense you perpetually put on the field.

    Rodgers can’t do it all…

  107. dankinator says: Sep 9, 2013 1:09 PM

    ALL of you that are claiming that Matthews threw punches need to get glasses. He didn’t punch him, not once. They even showed the replay. He grabbed at his face mask in an attempt to have Staley get out of his face.

    I’m not defending what he did on the play, it was a dumb move and it was dirty.

    But he didn’t throw any punches. Watch the replay, it’s right there for all to see….unless you have the vision of Stevie Wonder.

  108. mikeinsanfran says: Sep 9, 2013 1:10 PM

    Field Goal vs TD is a 4 point swing in a 6 point loss. But hey, who is counting.

  109. tgifcarterthefourththefifth says: Sep 9, 2013 1:10 PM

    Didn’t matter in the end. The Niners would have kicked a FG if it went to 4th down, and since they won by more than four points in the end it doesn’t matter.

  110. whatjusthapped says: Sep 9, 2013 1:13 PM

    Its a bit revisionist, wouldn’t you say. The call on the field was against Staley, now that the NFL has found a mistake in replaying the down on offsetting dead ball fouls, they come back and say the the penalty on Staley really should have been on Matthews. Ok, but at the time, the call was on Staley and the ref’s were incorrect on the replayed down. Period.

    Still, no sensible football fan ever blames the ref’s and notice that McCarthy didn’t even acknowledge the mistake had anything to do with the outcome of the game. Its the idiot posters to this site hiding behind their keyboards that are blathering.

  111. cb2gbequalssb says: Sep 9, 2013 1:14 PM

    The only person to blame in this whole thing is McCarthy. Would have declined the penalty it would have been 4th down.

  112. bluenose1965 says: Sep 9, 2013 1:16 PM

    What garbage from the league office. Admit you screwed it up and move on.

    Should we expect a weekly update on all of the flags thrown that were incorrect? That’s all this is.

  113. sweetnlow44 says: Sep 9, 2013 1:18 PM

    Wait, this is the same NFL that claimed that there were no bad calls in superbowl xl, right? Ok, just wanted to make sure.

    Staley ran over to confront Mathews, not that I have a problem with a guy sticking up for his qb, but getting in a guys face way after a play like that DID deserve a penalty. And if not Staley, then Davis or Boldin could have deservedly gotten a flag, too. For the NFL to say there’s nothing wrong with running over and starting a potential brawl is irresponsible and sheepish. What a joke.

  114. sonoco says: Sep 9, 2013 1:19 PM

    Clay-o-patra clothes lines Kaepernick five yards out of bounds and some Pack fans think Staley coming to back up his QB was wrong. Please spare us. If Willis had done that to Rodgers you’d be calling for Willis to be suspended for the year.

  115. dwarftosser says: Sep 9, 2013 1:20 PM

    Matthews should have been flagged for the late hit. I was confused why Staley was flagged, and it makes sense that they are saying that is a mistake.

    That being said, it certainly wasn’t a ‘dirty’ hit. Yes, Matthews could have avoided the hit, but it wasn’t like he initiated the hit after Kaep was OB.. and the way Dom Capers has been preaching to the defense to hit Kaep at every opportunity it’s hard to blame him exclusively for the bad judgement call. It was excessive, it should have been flagged, but to label him a ‘dirty’ player for it is taking it a step too far.

  116. ramrene says: Sep 9, 2013 1:20 PM

    Bring back the replacement refs. When they botch a play they only botch it once, they don’t botch it twice on the same play!

  117. packergalmke says: Sep 9, 2013 1:22 PM

    I think if Staley were in the immediate area and sticking up for his quarterback, he wouldn’t have been flagged. But he came from midfield to get involved. Entirely different. Matthews shouldn’t have hit Kaepernick but if you look at his history, Matthews does not get called for personal fouls.

    The NFL is just starting to make up crap now because two years in a row their refs have made bad calls resulting in scores against the Packers. Since this score was mid-game, obviously the Packers had time to recover and win if their secondary wasn’t a sieve.

    The refs are paid to know the rules. You may diss Packer fans now, but just wait until they screw your team out of a victory. You know it’s going to happen sooner or later.

  118. ramrene says: Sep 9, 2013 1:23 PM

    Offsetting botches

    Now that’s new.

  119. rbirving says: Sep 9, 2013 1:24 PM

    If the only way you can defeat someone is by injuring them so they cannot play, you don’t belong in the league. If that is your attitude as a fan, you don’t belong in the gene pool.

  120. bronconation13 says: Sep 9, 2013 1:26 PM

    Seriously, who cares?! Neither of these teams are good enough to beat the Broncos so what are you fighting over?! Who’s good enough to get 2nd place? Just stop whining…Packer fans especially!

  121. swaggyy says: Sep 9, 2013 1:27 PM

    How much is Whinebaugh paying the NFL?

  122. swaggyy says: Sep 9, 2013 1:28 PM

    I got 35-10 seahawks next week

  123. beakersf says: Sep 9, 2013 1:35 PM

    Will the NFL now be admitting every crappy call or just the ones that cover up other more public blunders?

  124. dirtyjersey9er says: Sep 9, 2013 1:38 PM

    Going through other posts about this game I also see a few Packers fans bringing up two injured DBs. Ok then if you want to play that game then I take your Burnett/Hayward plus will even throw in Bulaga and raise you a Crabtree/Manningham/Culliver/Wright/Carradine.

  125. judsonjr says: Sep 9, 2013 1:42 PM

    I am a Packer fan and would have been 100% fine with Matthews getting the only flag, it was a stupid play.

    However, for those who want to nitpick the whole situation they could have nailed Boldin for hitting Sam Shields in the face during the scrum. So for the whiners saying eject Matthews, the same could have been done for Boldin.

    I will say it does get annoying to hear fellow Packer fans say, durr, if we got that call we could have tried a 59 yard FG at the end. Aside from the whole game playing out differently, let’s say that somehow the Packers were down 3 with 20 some seconds left and the ball at the 20. I’m pretty sure the Niners aren’t going to give that Packers that same easy long play only down 3.

  126. dwarftosser says: Sep 9, 2013 1:45 PM

    dirtyjersey9er:

    The Packers do miss Burnett and Hayward, but even with those guys healthy the Packers secondary isn’t good enough to defend Kaep when he is on like that. I’m a Packers fan, and going into this game I thought the only chance they had to win was if Kaep made a mistake or two and Rodgers had a big day.. Alas, Kaep didn’t make any mistakes.

  127. eljayizme says: Sep 9, 2013 1:45 PM

    robbed and bad call cost them the game?….even if they got it right (right being debatable) and Niners kick a field instead, they still win , they won by 6 pts. Can we please focus on week 2 now…thanks

  128. hawkfan72 says: Sep 9, 2013 1:48 PM

    Dang replacement refs never get anything right.

  129. dirtyjersey9er says: Sep 9, 2013 1:50 PM

    dwarftosser:

    I know not all Packers fans are trying to use the injury excuse. That post was to the ones bringing up the injuries to the secondary.

  130. rjl1680 says: Sep 9, 2013 1:55 PM

    This was all just common sense, to all but the most stubborn of Packers fans. Staley should never have been penalized.

    Matthews caused this problem, and he did it, because of his coach’s decision to accept the penalty.

    The 49ers have now beat GB 3 times in the past year. Packers fans can blame the league, blame god, cry conspiracy all they want, but the proof is in the results…

  131. dedsexeh says: Sep 9, 2013 1:57 PM

    I say this as a Packers fan just trying to be as objective as possible and hopefully Niners fans can be too: Matthews obviously had to get flagged on that play. Anyone with any amount of objectivity can’t deny that. I also understand why Staley would retaliate in defense of his QB. I’d expect the Packers to do the same thing were a Niners LB to do that to Rodgers in the same scenario, regardless of whether they get flagged for retaliating or not. (Sort of similar to the unspoken rules in hockey). Despite whether one agrees/disagrees with certain calls in the game, the Niners showed they are still the better team, that is, at least at this point. Any Packer fan that says, “Yeah, but we didn’t have Burnett and Hayward in the secondary!”, the Niners could equally reply, “We didn’t have Crabtree or Manningham either!” You gotta give the Niners their due. They are a top Contender for the Lombardi, at least based on the start of this season. The Packers are closer, but not quite there yet.

    Having said this, the League office better be careful in what they’re now saying about making a mistake in flagging Staley, lest they add another level of ‘subjectivity’ to the rules that fans and players rightly complain about. In this case, the bigger issue is what exactly are the rules on “retaliation” when it happens on the field and/or on the sideline? Did Staley retaliate? While I don’t blame him for doing so, he did retaliate.

    So the question is whether or not retaliation by any player in any circumstance is a flaggable offense or not? If it is, then you maintain objectivity to the rule. But if it is not always a flaggable offense, and depends on the particular circumstances as they appear to a particular referee, then, like I said, you add a layer of subjectivity to the rule that will no doubt cause frustration to players and fans alike, and hurt the game in the long run (much like these new tackling rules are for defenders, trying to avoid concussions while only ending up causing more leg/knee injuries, or rb’s not being allowed to lower their helmet, etc.). This means they’re going to expect referees to not only flag each and every late hit according to the rules as they currently stand, but also now to arbitrarily pick and choose between which of the supposed late hits which are flagged were blatant enough cheapshots that retaliation by the other side in such cases would be deemed legitimate and not flagged, and which late hits were not ‘so bad’ as to deserve retaliation and so in those cases acts of retaliation would be flagged.

    Do you see the problem here? I don’t blame Staley for retaliating, even if meant drawing a penalty because of it. It would have been worth doing even though your team would get a penalty for it. Rather, for the League to ground the rules of retaliation on the subjective, arbitrary basis of how “cheap” a cheapshot appears to a particular referee is the problem here.

    So while I think Matthews should’ve been flagged, I do think that if the League wants to maintain objectivity and consistency to at least some of its rules (rules which haven’t already been screwed up by the League), then Staley had to be flagged too, even if his retaliation was understandable and worth the penalty in terms of sending a message to Matthews. Perhaps Goodell should spend some time with the NHL to get it.

  132. jm91rs says: Sep 9, 2013 1:58 PM

    As a Packers fan, it’s clear that the 49ers earned the victory, but as an NFL fan I’m a little disturbed. The NFL finally admits that a ref messed up and they decide to publicly say “well sure they messed up, but they messed up twice so it’s a double negative and it didn’t affect anything”. I can’t think of another circumstance where the NFL would have ever said a Ref made a mistake throwing a personal foul flag, except in this case to cover their own asses on another mistake. Either the NFL now releases info every time they make a mistake on the field, or it is all a joke because they only admit they’re wrong when they can prove it didn’t matter.

  133. dea49 says: Sep 9, 2013 1:59 PM

    I agree with the packers fans, the refs blew the call.

    Staley shouldn’t have been flagged.

    Matthews should have been flagged twice and ejected for two hits to the head of Staley.

    The Niners should have had a 1st and goal from the 1 yard line.

    Nuff said!

  134. drumbum111 says: Sep 9, 2013 2:00 PM

    thekiller678 says: Sep 9, 2013 11:54 AM

    That’s what I didn’t get originally.. Staley was just defending his QB. Matthews should have been tossed. Not for the hit but the fact he was throwing punches afterwards.

    Packer fans will still complain though.
    ——
    Hey! I’m a Packers fan and I’m not complaining. In fact, I was saying Matthews was clearly wrong and Staley actually did nothing to be flagged. I don’t think Matthews is a dirty player. But he definitely lost his cool and should have been flagged, perhaps even ejected. I also agree with some of the other comments that McCarthy screwed up by not declining the penalty, giving the 9ers another crack at 3rd down. That wasn’t good.
    Still a great game. I hate bad calls. But, at least in this case, it worked out right. San Fran scored, and won, so it’s all good.

  135. anarchopurplism says: Sep 9, 2013 2:07 PM

    Can you even IMAGINE if Rogers were hit by Patrick Willis like that?

    The tears flowing in Wisconsin would threaten the saltiness of the water supply!

  136. richcranium2112 says: Sep 9, 2013 2:12 PM

    Really? Really? Really?

    I guess NFL love goes to SF!

    FIRE BILL!! FIRE ROGER!!

  137. usdcoyotesfan says: Sep 9, 2013 2:12 PM

    The offsetting penalties were right. Staley grabbed Matthews by the jersey. The refs always always ALWAYS throw a flag for retaliation.

  138. dea49 says: Sep 9, 2013 2:15 PM

    dedsexeh says: Do you see the problem here? I don’t blame Staley for retaliating, even if meant drawing a penalty because of it. It would have been worth doing even though your team would get a penalty for it.

    But the NFL pointing out that Staley’s retaliation was not flagable was that his retaliation was not physical. Staley just grabbed Matthews by the jersey and had words with him. Wouldn’t that be preferable to Staley just jumping on throwing punches?

    I think Staley handled that with class and intelligence and more players should adopt that path!

  139. thebirdofprey says: Sep 9, 2013 2:24 PM

    armylz says: Sep 9, 2013 12:58 PM

    The entire Mathews debacle shouldnt even of happened because McCarthy should of declined the previous penalty forcing the niners into 4th and 2. What he was thinking of sending Kappy back on the field for 3rd and 6 I’ll never know.

    ————————————————–
    McCarthy declined because it was 4th and 1 deep in their zone. If you watch the 49ers enough, Jim Harbaugh will go for 1st down in that situation. The NFL never admits their mistake even its in your face. 49ers deserved to win but giving a team an extra down in goal line situation is ridiculous.

  140. jrazz22 says: Sep 9, 2013 2:25 PM

    Haha! All you crying Packer fans crying foul have no excuses. Everyone knew Staley getting flagged was BS.

    49ers 1-0. Packers 0-1

  141. vikesfan22 says: Sep 9, 2013 2:27 PM

    Playoffs???!! The Packers aren’t making the playoffs. They think they have solved their run defense? The 49ers didn’t make a concerted effort to run the ball. Little if any read option, because Kap was torching their secondary for the tune of 400+ yards. We’ll see how your run defense holds up against RGIII and Alfred Morris next week. The Pack is starting 0-2.

  142. Kaz says: Sep 9, 2013 2:28 PM

    We all love to see an OLineman protect his qb, but that doesn’t mean rushing over and putting his hands on Matthews was “ok”. Both were flaged and should have been. Staley shouldn’t have ran over and put his hands on Mathews even if it was nice to see him protect his qb.

  143. dea49 says: Sep 9, 2013 2:29 PM

    usdcoyotesfan says: The offsetting penalties were right. Staley grabbed Matthews by the jersey. The refs always always ALWAYS throw a flag for retaliation.

    What? WHAT? ALWAYS? What fantasy land do you hail from?

  144. usdcoyotesfan says: Sep 9, 2013 2:30 PM

    “Bring back the replacement refs. When they botch a play they only botch it once, they don’t botch it twice on the same play!”

    —————————————-

    Such as the missed push-off by Golden Tate on Sam Shields followed by the “catch”?

  145. pgilbert2013 says: Sep 9, 2013 2:40 PM

    Just think… In a few short days you can cry over RG3 throwing for 300 and running for 70…

    On a pleasant note… Just a few more weeks for deer hunting season and 15 degree weather….

  146. gbpack50 says: Sep 9, 2013 2:41 PM

    How lame! How many times has the player that retaliated been flagged? Most of the time!! They made a major mistake and now they are trying to cover their rears! Be big boys and admit you blew the call!!!

  147. muskyhunter2542 says: Sep 9, 2013 2:41 PM

    vikesfan22 says:
    Sep 9, 2013 2:27 PM
    Playoffs???!! The Packers aren’t making the playoffs. They think they have solved their run defense? The 49ers didn’t make a concerted effort to run the ball. Little if any read option, because Kap was torching their secondary for the tune of 400+ yards. We’ll see how your run defense holds up against RGIII and Alfred Morris next week. The Pack is starting 0-2.

    _________________________________

    You should be worrying about your own team Troll? You must have missed how good the pass offense looked as well as the offensive line that you queen fans are so eger to talk about.

  148. justintuckrule says: Sep 9, 2013 2:42 PM

    @9ers fans –

    Pains me to say this but I must take back all of my Kapernick is a flash in the pan, system QB comments. Dude is the real deal. I hate Harbaugh but the guy recognized that he couldn’t live with the read-option forever. Clearly, he spent the offseason grooming Kapernick into a traditional QB which will only extend his shelf life. Congrats on the game and finally having yourself a QB worth discussing. They will be a tough out in the post season. That said, we all know that there is only one team out there that you actually fear playing in January.

    If you remember the game Stratego, we are the Spy. Any team could beat us at any time. However, let us hang around long enough and let us sneak in the playoffs and we’ll gank you’re #1 when you’re least expecting it!

  149. 1nationraidernation says: Sep 9, 2013 2:42 PM

    same nfl who said that brady’s fumble was correctly called a tuck…its the problem with our society, nobody can admit when they are wrong.

    Bottom line NFL …you blew it again…and will next week, and the week after, and the week after….after all it is called being human.

  150. muskyhunter2542 says: Sep 9, 2013 2:42 PM

    BTW… Yes, The Packers are winning the north. So they will be in the playoffs.

  151. gbpack50 says: Sep 9, 2013 2:46 PM

    jrazz22 says: Sep 9, 2013 2:25 PM

    Haha! All you crying Packer fans crying foul have no excuses. Everyone knew Staley getting flagged was BS.

    49ers 1-0. Packers 0-1

    Ha Ha, crying Packers fans??? Is that why your team around the league is call the “49erwhiners”? You guys are taking to a new level! I’m sure we’ll hear it again after the Seahawks thump you again.

  152. muskyhunter2542 says: Sep 9, 2013 2:47 PM

    Who cares anymore. Move on!!!
    Both teams have games next week.

  153. gbpack50 says: Sep 9, 2013 2:47 PM

    Sorry “called” before you whine about that.

  154. shlort says: Sep 9, 2013 2:53 PM

    Blown call, not a blown call, wrong down, right down… What ifference does it make? The game is in the books, and there is no changing anything. If a team thinks a call (aside from the fail mary, gotta call that one as it is) will change a game, they better get used to it. Officials are human and make mistakes or don’t see things or think they might have seen something. None of it matters because it all equals out over a game. Both teams get calls their way and calls against them that may be iffy.

    Anyway, the NFL coming out saying Staley should never have been flagged, well, the NFL is saying that the ref that threw the flag on Staley made the wrong judgement call? It is what it is and the NFL should just say that instead of making excuses about something every time. Look at how they scrambled after the fail mary last year. The NFL actually came out and said it was the right call when it was so wrong that only a blind idiot could come to the conclusion that it was right. Can’t expect much from the NFL.

  155. nickmiller63 says: Sep 9, 2013 2:55 PM

    All of you brilliant wordsmiths who seem to believe that the 49ers are called the Forty Whiners because they whine…or because Harbaugh’s their coach….or for some other faux-rational reason, get this: I’ve been following them since the early 1970s, and they’ve always been called the Forty Whiners by opponent fanbases. It’s because it rhymes! Yeah! That’s right. It rhymes.

  156. jrazz22 says: Sep 9, 2013 3:01 PM

    gbpack50
    Sep 9, 2013, 11:46 AM PDT
    jrazz22 says: Sep 9, 2013 2:25 PM

    Haha! All you crying Packer fans crying foul have no excuses. Everyone knew Staley getting flagged was BS.

    49ers 1-0. Packers 0-1

    Ha Ha, crying Packers fans??? Is that why your team around the league is call the “49erwhiners”? You guys are taking to a new level! I’m sure we’ll hear it again after the Seahawks thump you again.
    ——————————————————–
    Dry your tears little boy, you are a perfect example of a sniveling, whining, crying Packer fan. Im sure the Seahawks will be a tough game. They always play tough at home and could very well win.

    So go ahead and root for them, your team couldn’t get the job done.

    And just so you know, Whiners rhymes with Niners. Kind of like Slackers rhymes with Packers. See what I did there? You must be new too all if this.

    49ers 1-0 Packers 0-1

  157. toplesscorvette says: Sep 9, 2013 3:03 PM

    ALL THAT MATTERS: 49ers 34 Packers 28

  158. pushn50 says: Sep 9, 2013 3:03 PM

    Whiney 49er fans – no wonder you’re called the whiniest fans in the world. Just like you’re coach. All I see in here is 49er fans whining about Matthews hit on Kaep, and how Clay should get a big fine. Big whoop, so your QB got spanked out of bounds. You got another crack at the play, and Boldin scored. Kharma fixed itself. But your incessant whining only reinforces what a bunch of whiney pansies your fans are.

  159. brettfavresmidget says: Sep 9, 2013 3:12 PM

    I don’t know about all this other stuff, but I do know for a fact, the snafu mentioned helped my fantasy team roll to victory. Anquan Boldin, 7th round bargain.

  160. nflgerry says: Sep 9, 2013 3:13 PM

    The Packers QB actually made a public whine last year following the Seattle game and now the Packer fans are calling the 49ers whiners?

  161. rustygrizzwald says: Sep 9, 2013 3:14 PM

    Clay Matthews=Ndamakong Suh=Richie Incognito

  162. shlort says: Sep 9, 2013 3:19 PM

    Almost forgot to add this. I noticed one thing yesterday, and anyone else who watched it can take this away from the game as something to chew on for the rest of the season. The 49ers had to play a flawless game to beat GB. GB made way more mistakes than SF did yesterday.

    What does that tell me? It tells me that GB can beat SF if the scrip of mistakes were turned. So, remember this. If you are gloating as a SF fan, it is all good for you right now. If you are hating on the Packers, you have your shot. Know that the post season will include both of these teams and one of them will represent the NFC in the SB if they both keep playing like they did yesterday. It is going to be all about who wants it more and who has something to prove.

  163. swagger52 says: Sep 9, 2013 3:23 PM

    How about the forfeiting the time to do a booth replay the Ravens turnover because Peyton wanted to run the no-huddle to throw a touchdown pass?

    It appears we only do the customary review when it the Ravens that get the turnover, or when Petyon Manning doesn’t want the ball more quickly.

    There all always discrepancies…

    Tuck Rule
    Ravens not getting customary home game’
    Tampa Bay not getting customary home game
    Explaining why Joe Staley shouldn’t have been penalized on a judgment call despite intimidating another player and starting a fight

    However, why do some of the teams always get the breaks and some always get the shaft?

  164. offtop1c says: Sep 9, 2013 3:24 PM

    Green Bay played the best game they are capable of playing. SF looked like it had room to grow with a lot of clumsy mistakes that’ll go away with a few more weeks of play.

    I don’t think Dom Caper wants to see the 49ers ever again.

  165. goldrush94 says: Sep 9, 2013 3:30 PM

    At least the NFL admitted their mistake… on top of their original mistake. I read the head ref was downgraded today. Maybe the NBA should take a page out of NFL book. That way people wouldn’t resort to conspiracy theories as to how the NBA is run… but we all know NBA is rigged. Anyway, Kudos to the NFL and kudos to the Niners for a deserved win.

    Go Niners.

  166. dirk504 says: Sep 9, 2013 3:31 PM

    Justice served either way. Never knew the Pack fan base had so many cry babies.

  167. skittlesareyum says: Sep 9, 2013 3:41 PM

    offtop1c says:
    Sep 9, 2013 3:24 PM
    Green Bay played the best game they are capable of playing. SF looked like it had room to grow with a lot of clumsy mistakes that’ll go away with a few more weeks of play.

    I don’t think Dom Caper wants to see the 49ers ever again.

    ————————

    They had two very huge drops (one for an interception) and were missing a starting safety. So I’d say the Packers can play better, but so can the 49ers because it’s just the start of the season. I hope both teams are at full strength and they meet again in the playoffs, because despite this late hit-botched call snafu that game was amazing! Congrats to the 49ers even though my team lost.

  168. gbpack50 says: Sep 9, 2013 3:42 PM

    Man, all of the Whiners are coming out. They have a good season last year and they think they are toast of the league. Reality folks, The Packers lost a close game on the road, got torched in the secondary with two starters out (no excuses) but are still the elite team in the NFC. The Whiners, you really don’t matter, Seahawks take your division and if your lucky enough to get in the playoffs, one and done. Good year last year though, you should be happy!

  169. jjthesportsguy says: Sep 9, 2013 3:44 PM

    Dance clowns, dance. Funny to see so many people making such a big deal over a blown call. I live in Milwaukee and am a season ticket holder, have been for the past 2 years.

    You should never blame the refs for a loss. It is one of the first things you are taught as an athlete after a tough game. There is always you could have done on the field to come out with a win. I think the Packers could have started by defending Anquan Boldin.

    The 49ers are a great team, and I hope the Packers see them again in the playoffs. It was a great win by the 9ers and while the Packers defense made a lot of progress throughout the off-season I think Kaepernick showed all that he is a much better thrower than anyone not on the 49ers team may have thought.

    Stay classy all you clowns.

  170. stevent92 says: Sep 9, 2013 3:46 PM

    The funniest was Matthews doing his best LeBron/Chris Mullin impression taking a dive on the Vernon Davis block on the short 3rd down. That was hilarious.

    And fake.

  171. romosrevenge says: Sep 9, 2013 3:52 PM

    Check my posts on this topic yesterday; this is exactly what I said 10 minutes after the chicken**** late hit occurred. It should have been 1st down SF DUE TO THAT INFRACTION. Dead ball penalties would have offset each other. NO ONE, and I MEAN NOT EVEN PERRERIA GOT IT RIGHT. The NFL is being played more and more by the referees, not the athletes. And the refs are worse than ever. They ref more and more by agenda and business interests. It’s a very sad fact.

  172. nflgerry says: Sep 9, 2013 4:05 PM

    The 49ers looked like they were cutting butter. The Packers looked like they needed evry piece of help they could find including the officiating. But alas, all the help in the world wasn’t enough. 7-9

  173. mogogo1 says: Sep 9, 2013 4:15 PM

    Getting lost in all this is the fact that Green Bay accepted a 5 yard penalty rather than bring up 4th down on the play right before the Matthews late hit. That made no sense at the time and ended up costing them a touchdown. Were they afraid the Niners would go for it on 4th and short? Or did they think the extra 5 yards would knock them out of field goal range? Really strange decision.

  174. js1206 says: Sep 9, 2013 4:19 PM

    If you watch the full play, Staley should have not been penalized. Boldin should have for his punch to Shields. They just called it on the wrong person. The refs screwed up and should have made it 4th down. Who knows if that was the difference or not. The question in all of this is why McCarthy would accept a penalty on the other play allowing the niners have another play. That did not make sense at all. It was a great game and I could see these teams playing again later in the season.

  175. smythbw87 says: Sep 9, 2013 4:19 PM

    Personal Foul penalties get called and missed all the time. Most penalties are very subjective, so whether it was called or not is a moot point. You can argue 10-15 other plays in every game that should of or shouldn’t of received a penalty. The problem here is that the refs applied the penalty incorrectly, which should never be an issue. That nullification is not subjective, but will be applied the same way everytime.

  176. bobhk says: Sep 9, 2013 4:20 PM

    @gbpack50 says:
    Sep 9, 2013 3:42 PM
    Man, all of the Whiners are coming out. They have a good season last year and they think they are toast of the league. Reality folks, The Packers lost a close game on the road, got torched in the secondary with two starters out (no excuses) but are still the elite team in the NFC. The Whiners, you really don’t matter, Seahawks take your division and if your lucky enough to get in the playoffs, one and done. Good year last year though, you should be happy!
    ———
    Waaah waaah…it’s hurting eh? What if Crabtree was on the field too…. it would have been a rout!

  177. emperorzero says: Sep 9, 2013 4:23 PM

    I’m not sure if Niners fans understand the irony about them calling Packers fans whiners. How many “Matthews hit Kaepernick 72 yards out of bounds with a sledgehammer,” hyperbolic crybaby whines or “Matthews said he would hit Kaepernick and then actually did!” whines will we hear (along with more whining from Harbaugh) this week? Kaepernick was no more than two steps out of bounds and Matthews had already launched when he hit him. Deal with it.

  178. pushn50 says: Sep 9, 2013 4:25 PM

    OMG, 49ers fans bragging about how good their team looked yesterday. Yeah, riiiiight. GB played a sloppy game and still put up nearly 400 yards of offfense – 333 yards in the air.

    Keep patting yourselves on the back their whiners. You were one Aaron Rodgers pass away from losing. It was a close game, in spite of GB’s myriad of mistakes. You deserved to win as a result of the mistakes, but quit acting like world beaters – the season just started and you have plenty yet to prove before crowning yourselves champions!

  179. nflgerry says: Sep 9, 2013 4:29 PM

    How many time’s have we seen Rogers get hit in the pocket, the opposing team gets flagged with a penalty, and upon seeing the replay we hear Troy Aikman exclaim, “Well… I don’t know about THAT!!”. Amazingly, I’ve never heard a TV announcer say such a thing after a Packer opponent’s QB was hit in the pocket and I’ve seen every game that Rogers has played in.

  180. pesotmato says: Sep 9, 2013 4:30 PM

    Packers, I know how badly you wanted to win this game. But please stay classy!

    You signed two former 49ers players and tried to get insider information however it didn’t work out. Then you did dirty play and wanted to hurt our QB which still didn’t work out.

    I lost all the respect to your organization.

    Go Niners!

  181. nflgerry says: Sep 9, 2013 4:35 PM

    There’s actually a wikipedia page devoted to allowing the Packers a place to officially whine. It’s a fully supported encyclopedia entry just for the Packer whiners. Search for the Packers Seahawks on Wikipedia and you’ll find their secret whining web site.

  182. pushn50 says: Sep 9, 2013 4:38 PM

    pesotmato says:Sep 9, 2013 4:30 PM

    Packers, I know how badly you wanted to win this game. But please stay classy!

    You signed two former 49ers players and tried to get insider information however it didn’t work out. Then you did dirty play and wanted to hurt our QB which still didn’t work out.

    I lost all the respect to your organization.

    Go Niners!
    _________________________________

    Seriously dude? You’re telling GB fans to stay classy? Pot meet kettle.

  183. stellarperformance says: Sep 9, 2013 4:46 PM

    It wasn’t this play that caused the Packers to lose. It wasn’t the secondary that caused them to lose. It wasn’t the two turnovers that caused them to lose.

    It was the three-and-outs that caused them to lose.

    The Packers should’ve won 60-34.

  184. qoojo says: Sep 9, 2013 4:50 PM

    As a packer fan, I never saw why Staley was flagged. I saw Matthews pushing his face mask but never saw a push or swing from him.

    FYI to football tough guys in here, just because your team wins or loses doesn’t make you more or less manly. You’re the same fat worthless slob you were before the game.

  185. stellarperformance says: Sep 9, 2013 4:58 PM

    nflgerry says:
    Sep 9, 2013 4:29 PM
    I’ve seen every game that Rogers has played in……….
    ///////////////////////////////////

    …………and I still don’t know how to spell his name!

  186. oblongsphere says: Sep 9, 2013 5:03 PM

    Staley did nothing wrong, that part is correct. However, there were plenty of punches and pushing from other players on both sides that should have drawn flags.

    The real issue is the fact the refs botched it all and the NFL continues to try and find ways to spin it in their favor.

  187. bobhk says: Sep 9, 2013 5:24 PM

    @pushn50 says:
    Sep 9, 2013 4:25 PM
    OMG, 49ers fans bragging about how good their team looked yesterday. Yeah, riiiiight. GB played a sloppy game and still put up nearly 400 yards of offfense – 333 yards in the air.

    Keep patting yourselves on the back their whiners. You were one Aaron Rodgers pass away from losing. It was a close game, in spite of GB’s myriad of mistakes. You deserved to win as a result of the mistakes, but quit acting like world beaters – the season just started and you have plenty yet to prove before crowning yourselves champions!
    —————-
    So, you want to brag about how sloppy your team is? Is there a prize for that?

    I am not sure about world beaters but we did beat you! If we are not world beaters, I guess you guys can all quit since you’ll never see the trophy.

    Stop making excuses and whining. Your team lost. That is all that needs to be said. There is no trophy awarded for this game but it’s a barometer.

  188. deweyaxewound says: Sep 9, 2013 5:37 PM

    LOL at all the Packers fans crying and claiming how persecuted they are by the NFL.

    Seriously, your team is among the most indulged/protected/worshipped/privileged/entitled by the entire NFL, the refs, and the media at-large.

    You get nothing BUT the benefit of the doubt.
    You get nothing BUT lavish praise, attention, special interest, and benefit.
    You ARE one of the primadonna darlings of the NFL world.

    In the eyes of the NFL world and its media acolytes, your team and its players CAN DO NO WRONG.

    So take it from a from a fan of a long-suffering team which DOESN’T get any respect (including respect it deserves), which doesn’t get that benefit of the doubt, that special interest and extra attention and coverage and recognition, etc. – ST*U with your crybaby whining. Coming from YOU, of all teams, it’s absolutely laughable.

    Signed,

    Every other team in the NFL (except maybe the Patriots)

  189. packfanaj12 says: Sep 9, 2013 5:47 PM

    I guess Matthews was supposed to stop mid air, and not hit him. If people watch, he could not have stopped, and shouldnt have. Kaep runs along the sidelines, and will try to get any more yards (like he did last year)… Now I will agree, things got a little ify after that… But in my opinion, it should not have been called a late hit (I know the NFL already said it obviously was, but when you really watch it, he had already started leaping before Kaep went out of bounds. This is the NFL, Rodgers has taken many late hits while not being a rusher, IDK why everyone is all butthurt over it.

  190. 84smooninlambeaunevergetsold says: Sep 9, 2013 5:52 PM

    @whatjusthapped:

    “It’s the idiot posters to this site hiding behind their keyboards that are blathering”
    Correct, just like you.

    I was over my teams loss before the game ended. Obviously, you’re still having a hard time.

    By the way, why do you feel the need to write a novel on here anyway? Oh yeah, that’s right, you’re blathering.

  191. quitwhiningloser says: Sep 9, 2013 6:17 PM

    The Fartkers and Fartgers got their butts whoop by the 49ers.

    Clay Matthews is nothing more than an idiot that gets nothing done.

    Arron Fartgers is the past, the Fartkers are on the decline LOL!!!

  192. mnlogic says: Sep 9, 2013 7:43 PM

    Classic NFL instead admitting their was a major mistake made which could have changed the outcome of a game. NFL math – TWO mistakes make a right!!
    As a Viking fan I’m starting to wonder if Suh (A real problem, issue for the NFL) will get over shadowed by this mistake(s)??

  193. trapshoot says: Sep 9, 2013 8:01 PM

    The call made on the field is the one that matters. Who cares about all the gee whiz after the fact. Forget about it.

  194. kezar68 says: Sep 9, 2013 8:05 PM

    Poseur punk Matthews got his ass handed to him by the Real Deal.

  195. dea49 says: Sep 9, 2013 8:07 PM

    packfanaj12 says: I guess Matthews was supposed to stop mid air, and not hit him. If people watch, he could not have stopped, and shouldnt have.

    Just like it’s called ALL OVER THE NFL, you cannot launch yourself and be immune to a penalty. They call it ALL THE TIME when players launch themselves at QB’s in the pocket or defenseless receivers.

    Ignorance of the rules is NOT AN EXCUSE!

  196. ihateyoujeff says: Sep 9, 2013 10:22 PM

    Dear 2012 NFC Champions,

    Congratulations, You’re 3-0 against the Packers the last two seasons. Have fun falling short of glory.

    From,
    The Super Bowl XLV Champions

  197. chrisco716 says: Sep 9, 2013 10:55 PM

    told ya so.

  198. kvnhlstd says: Sep 9, 2013 11:26 PM

    Bottom line is that Matthews was out of control on the play… The refs blew it… it had no outcome on the game. The 49ers beat the Packers and that is a fact… what really gets under my skin is that the 9er fans have short term memory and feel that the last three games represent all there is to the Packer/49er history.

    Fact…
    13 league championships for the packers
    5 league championships for the 49ers

    Total record Packers vs 49ers
    34-29-1 in favor of the Packers

    Play off records Packers vs 49ers
    4-2 in favor of the Packers

    Bottom line 49er fans… your team is better than the packers in the last 12 months, but that’s it.

  199. taintedsaints2009 says: Sep 9, 2013 11:50 PM

    That’s what I said from the beginning. Matthews was responsible for everything that happened and should have been the only person flagged.

  200. zygizag says: Sep 9, 2013 11:57 PM

    Quick get rid of these replacement refs and bring in the real NFL refs.

  201. tonywyuen says: Sep 10, 2013 11:05 AM

    Matthews is a dirty player.

  202. packfanaj12 says: Sep 10, 2013 2:01 PM

    dea49 says: Just like it’s called ALL OVER THE NFL, you cannot launch yourself and be immune to a penalty. They call it ALL THE TIME when players launch themselves at QB’s in the pocket or defenseless receivers.

    Ignorance of the rules is NOT AN EXCUSE!

    /////////////////////

    Ummm he was a rusher, not a defenseless receiver nor a QB in the pocket. Matthews had already leaped, and Kaep should have gotten out earlier. Guess this should just be 2 hand touch football if getting hit unexpectedly is and issue. Was it a late hit… yes… was it unavoidable… not really.

  203. ghouchens says: Sep 12, 2013 5:27 PM

    QB on his back on the ground outside the sidelines …. then here comes Matthews flying thru the air … doesn’t just hit QB while trying to avoid him … instead he hits QB in the head and neck. Referees call him for a dirty hit, but NFL league is strangely silent. Instead, NFL chooses to concentrate their anger on Detroit’s Suh.

    Officiating s not the problem, attitude of NFL is the real problem.

  204. kvt7280 says: Sep 13, 2013 7:03 PM

    Clay Matthews should’ve been thrown out of the game for targeting which he clearly was w/ a $100k fine and 1 game suspension. he should’ve been flagged for Unsportsmanlike Conduct when after the throw down sack on CK, he started taunting. If Bowman got called for Unsportsmanlike for just walking away, Matthews should’ve been flagged on that sack, too.

  205. boxersgirlbunny says: Sep 16, 2013 2:21 PM

    kriswd40 says:
    Sep 9, 2013 11:51 AM
    Karma wins in the end.

    Is that you Jen Bielema?

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