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Benjamin Watson on Ndamukong Suh: “Enough is enough”

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Among NFL players, there’s no greater sin than to take a cheap shot at another player’s knee. So it’s no surprise that NFL Lions defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh is feeling the wrath of his fellow players.

Suh, who was fined $100,000 for a hit to Vikings center John Sullivan’s knee, took heat from Saints tight end Benjamin Watson, who says Suh needs to knock off the cheap shots.

“I hesitate to call a player dirty simply because I don’t know their intent, but I do know what he did was illegal and I do know he has done it multiple times so it comes a time when enough is enough,” Watson told Andrew Siciliano on NFL Network. “We need to get what he is doing rectified and we need to sit down as players and talk to him. We are talking about player safety and obviously this is a play that lies outside of that. As players, we need to hold ourselves accountable.”

Watson also pointed out that even if Suh doesn’t care about the wellbeing of his opponents, he ought to care about his team. And Suh has hurt his team with penalties, especially the shot on Sullivan, which cost the Lions an interception return for a touchdown.

“It is a team game,” Watson said, “and at some point it is going to cost the team a game. So if you care about your team, if you care about the guys you are in the game with, you are going to play within the rules.”

Even if the league office can’t rein Suh in, the Lions need to. No matter how talented Suh is, he’s not worth the trouble if his penalties are costing his team big plays.

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128 Responses to “Benjamin Watson on Ndamukong Suh: “Enough is enough””
  1. ialwayswantedtobeabanker says: Sep 10, 2013 7:30 PM

    Watson has a point.

  2. thepftpoet says: Sep 10, 2013 7:30 PM

    No matter how many excuses people try to make for this dirtbag, Ndamukong Suh is still a dirty player and needs to be suspended ASAP.

  3. donth8thehorns says: Sep 10, 2013 7:31 PM

    He’s so annoying already

  4. orivar says: Sep 10, 2013 7:32 PM

    I’d rather hear defensive players say something than a guy who is on the side of not getting hit.

  5. thestrategyexpert says: Sep 10, 2013 7:32 PM

    But in the game teams intentionally will take a Delay of Game because the penalty fits into their gameplan. That’s the way it works on the field, and that’s the way it works off the field, because these are the rules the NFL has set forth and this is the result of that set of rules. If a Delay of Game penalty also cost you 2 points, you think the number of those infractions would go up or down? Teams would have to conform since the rule would have mighty deterrence power.

  6. jakec4 says: Sep 10, 2013 7:33 PM

    One guy, Jim Schwartz, has the power to do something, but does nothing. Cares more about wins and his job than making Suh play with any semblance of integrity and good sportsmanship.

  7. wearethesteelers says: Sep 10, 2013 7:34 PM

    LOL

  8. aaroncurryisbust says: Sep 10, 2013 7:35 PM

    No one would shed a tear if Ndamukong Suh suffered a painful career-ending injury.

  9. 4d9erdynasty says: Sep 10, 2013 7:35 PM

    The dirtiest player in the game this guy needs to start getting suspended for his consistent foul play.I knew this guy was a head case when he clearly stomped on a packer players arm and was certain he didn’t mean to do it.

  10. johnnyjagfan says: Sep 10, 2013 7:36 PM

    Suh simply doesn’t care about anyone but himself during his tirades.

  11. lionsblood73 says: Sep 10, 2013 7:37 PM

    Hey Ben, that play was illegal. It is an new rule this year, so he hasn’t done it multiple times. He got caught doing it once this year. Saint Ben, I’m sure you have never done anything illegal in your football career.

  12. nomoreseasontix says: Sep 10, 2013 7:38 PM

    Talented? He’s a big, strong dumb guy.
    If he was talented he wouldn’t need to be dirty.

  13. phillyphinsfan says: Sep 10, 2013 7:38 PM

    Someone needs to take a cheap shot on Suh and see how he likes it.

  14. jason1980 says: Sep 10, 2013 7:41 PM

    And before the haters get their undies in a wad with “bounty gate” references, the Saints NEVER injured anyone, and the League Office NEVER provided evidence that we did, just lots of narrow interpretation. Goodell’s imagination, oh well…….

  15. papacrick says: Sep 10, 2013 7:42 PM

    He sure gets a lot of flak for a guy who has yet to cause an injury to an opponent.

  16. graymalkin26 says: Sep 10, 2013 7:44 PM

    I believe he has two knees as well…!

  17. moagecu says: Sep 10, 2013 7:45 PM

    lionsblood73 keep defending that dirtbag. You may be too slow to understand but when he says multiple times he is including the stomping on the packers player, trying to rip maty ryans head off, the kick, etc. Suh is a dirtbag and should be suspended. Its telling when Rodney Harrisons response to the play is in disgust and hoping for his suspension too.

  18. kazkal says: Sep 10, 2013 7:46 PM

    Hey Suh you meant you’d be part of the dirtiest tandem right? just like what ever tandem involves geno is the best which ever one involves you has be the dirtiest.

  19. munny10 says: Sep 10, 2013 7:48 PM

    Lionsblood73 – don’t live in denial,…he has taken other illegal shots/kicks/stomps that “he didn’t mean to do” so he doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt. But lions fans love him because of all the success they have had since he’s been there. You know, the deep playoff runs, the super bowl wins,….oh wait, my bad. Maybe you should continue to live in denial.

  20. thepftpoet says: Sep 10, 2013 7:49 PM

    Look at all the classless lions fans backing up this embecile…pathetic

    You reflect your classless franchise perfectly

  21. ridgebak says: Sep 10, 2013 7:50 PM

    lionsblood73 says: Sep 10, 2013 7:37 PM

    Hey Ben, that play was illegal. It is an new rule this year, so he hasn’t done it multiple times. He got caught doing it once this year. Saint Ben, I’m sure you have never done anything illegal in your football career.

    ———————————-

    Spoken like a true classless lions fan. Who cares about the health and livelihood of another player. Isn’t one time enough?

    You must share the same room with lionsdraftboy

  22. hatesycophants says: Sep 10, 2013 7:50 PM

    I take it Watson never watched the play.

    Keep up the campaign to get Suh suspended, Michael. It’s adorable.

  23. johnnycash19 says: Sep 10, 2013 7:51 PM

    jakec4 says: Sep 10, 2013 7:33 PM

    One guy, Jim Schwartz, has the power to do something, but does nothing. Cares more about wins and his job than making Suh play with any semblance of integrity and good sportsmanship.
    ———–

    Wouldn’t you? I know I would care more about winning than playing Mr. Nice Guy. That’s the NFL, Win at all costs. Do you think your GM/Owner would keep you around if you went 4-12 just because you had 53 perfect role model players? Hell No. The NFL is about winning. You can criticize Schwartz on a lot of things, (and I mean A TON of things) but choosing winning over being a good guy? I don’t know think so.

  24. scrummymustard says: Sep 10, 2013 7:55 PM

    you lions fans defending him are funny.

    Stop being delirious homers.

  25. tokyosandblaster says: Sep 10, 2013 7:55 PM

    I agree. Dirty players like this guy and Jared Allen, both of whom have a history of trying to end people’s careers and laughing about it, should be kicked out of the NFL.

    Attention seeking, talentless cavemen.

  26. sgtdiver says: Sep 10, 2013 7:57 PM

    Keep crying guys. As a lions fan I can say he plays dirty and mean. I can also say I love the way he plays. So there it is. I can admit he’s dirty…can you admit that you would want him playing for your team?

  27. jglion says: Sep 10, 2013 7:58 PM

    Every time a player commits a penalty – any penalty – he’s broken a rule. So what? He get’s flagged for it, and hi team is penalized. Here, Suh made a dumb decision to throw an entirely unnecessary block that proved costly to him and the Lions. That said, there is not adhered of evidence of malice or intent to injure except in the dim witted cretins who write in to this site feel the need to call him a “dirtbag.”

  28. attyman says: Sep 10, 2013 7:59 PM

    This comment about being dirty coming from a Saints player. Laughable.

  29. chrisdavidgarcia says: Sep 10, 2013 8:00 PM

    So glad the Rams passed on him.

  30. jakec4 says: Sep 10, 2013 8:02 PM

    Wouldn’t you? I know I would care more about winning than playing Mr. Nice Guy. That’s the NFL, Win at all costs. Do you think your GM/Owner would keep you around if you went 4-12 just because you had 53 perfect role model players? Hell No. The NFL is about winning. You can criticize Schwartz on a lot of things, (and I mean A TON of things) but choosing winning over being a good guy? I don’t know think so.

    ————————————————————–

    I feel confident in saying that John Harbaugh would not go near Suh with a ten foot pole regardless of his talent. He’s just a scumbag player who seems on the verge of paralyzing someone or worse.

    Schwartz cannot coach Suh, Suh cannot be coached, or Schwartz just doesn’t care. A lengthy benching of four games seems in order. The players union would have a hard time defending Suh against any team discipline I would assume. It’s incident after incident after incident.

  31. chrisk61 says: Sep 10, 2013 8:02 PM

    guys like suh and deangelo hall don’t respect their fellow players. their dirty hits can end other players’ seasons or careers. the nflpa should come down on them. this is as much a player-player issue as it is a league/mgt issue.

    didn’t suh call a players only mtg days ago, before the season started, to talk about discipline ? what a fraud. what a classic example of “do as i say, not as i do.” it would be poetic justice if someone laid a cheap shot on suh or roy williams horse collar boy deangelo hall.

  32. lionsblood73 says: Sep 10, 2013 8:04 PM

    I like living in denial…it’s bliss…just like all of you Suh haters thinking everyone on your team is perfect.

  33. bigdicktater says: Sep 10, 2013 8:05 PM

    How about a “painful career-ending injury” that he feels every time he gets up, walks, etc., etc. for the rest of his life?
    Two big OT or OG need to high-low this SOB and get him out of the game before he kills or maims someone.
    That should also act as a deterrent for anyone coming up, thinking they can get away with this crap.

  34. franbotel says: Sep 10, 2013 8:05 PM

    nomoreseasontix says: Sep 10, 2013 7:38 PM

    Talented? He’s a big, strong dumb guy.
    If he was talented he wouldn’t need to be dirty.
    *******************************************
    His dumb ? getting an engineering degree from Nebraska makes him better than dumb whats your major in Keyboard warrior. He is talented, if he wasn’t he wont be in the NFL. Go find another way to take out your fustration

  35. mackcarrington says: Sep 10, 2013 8:05 PM

    Suh is a psychopathic, pathological loose cannon, who if he didn’t play football would be a danger to normal people on the streets.
    Only two words to quiet Suh down… Chop Block!

  36. sfgiant49er says: Sep 10, 2013 8:05 PM

    Someone may take matters into their own hands and cheap shot Suh & then he’ll cry about it. Karma is after him.

  37. creepingdeth says: Sep 10, 2013 8:06 PM

    Elementary, my dear Watson!

  38. warhammer420 says: Sep 10, 2013 8:07 PM

    Scrub TE trying to get headlines by attaching his name to Suh. Looks like it worked. It’s elementary, my dear Watson.

  39. craniator says: Sep 10, 2013 8:09 PM

    On top of being dirty , he’s making bonehead plays that are dirty — the block on that Vikings lineman was completely unnecessary ; his guy was in the clear and running to the end zone untouched. If you’re going to take a cheap shot , at least let it be a cheap shot that helps your own cause. Unfortunately , Suh is a marked man now ; the same way they have a referee watching all the linemen for holding and etc. , they probably have at least one them watching Suh on every play.

  40. bennyb82 says: Sep 10, 2013 8:09 PM

    My guess is that Suh agrees with him…and will not change a thing.

  41. balfe13 says: Sep 10, 2013 8:09 PM

    A lot of you commenters take these things WAY too seriously. You’d think he tried to take you all out personally. It’s pretty hilarious, really; maybe y’all should step away from the computer screen for a while and find a healthy way to release some of that aggression? May I recommend a gym somewhere?

  42. hyzers says: Sep 10, 2013 8:10 PM

    Can someone tell me who Suh has EVER INJURED?! What’s that? He hasn’t?! Well there goes that manufactured outrage. Watch the play. He was 3 inches too low with a block in the thigh. Sullivan said he didn’t think he was trying to injure him and he already forgave him. This is getting beyond ridiculous.

    It’s really cute all the petrified fans from opposing teams crying for a suspension. Even funnier when they blatantly get the facts wrong ie. Suh stomped on someone’s head! Uh… no actually he never has. He tackled Marion Barber by the dreads, got called for a horsecollar. He tackled Jay Quitler too hard and the ref claimed he hit him in the back of the head with his forearm (seriously). He ran over and offensive lineman from the Texans, held on the way down and barely made contact with Schuab. Woah, what a dirty player. Anything to take the heat off roided out Fabio who just did a WWF clothesline 5 feet out of bounds. Can you even imagine what would be said of Suh if he did something like that? Unreal.

  43. lionsblood73 says: Sep 10, 2013 8:10 PM

    moagecu
    munny10
    ridgeback

    All three of you are meanies! You are like the Suh of this comment board!

  44. shadowoflambeau311 says: Sep 10, 2013 8:11 PM

    Just more media bias, right Lions fans?

  45. sf546 says: Sep 10, 2013 8:12 PM

    I heard a retired coach/commentator talking about Suh today. He says off the field Suh is a charming, likeable guy. It’s just when he is playing that this anger switch is turned on. He worries about after football when Suh doesn’t have a place to channel this anger.

  46. bennyb82 says: Sep 10, 2013 8:12 PM

    For some reason I blame Urban Meyer.

  47. steelers4385 says: Sep 10, 2013 8:17 PM

    I love it.

  48. bringbackwayne says: Sep 10, 2013 8:20 PM

    Obviously, the block in and of itself was not horrific, or Suh would have been suspended.

    Last season, the fine was $30,000 for a foot to the jimmies. So now, a low block warranted the fine to jump to $100,000? Not $50,000? Not $75,000? The NFL obviously wants their money!

    The stomp on thanksgiving 2 years ago was bad. He was suspened two games for that. Unfortunately, the NFL is using that incident to continue to put more money in the coffers for every other questionable incident.

    What a joke!

  49. whoops7458 says: Sep 10, 2013 8:25 PM

    Goodell is the devil ! Flagg football is what it will be.

  50. i10balla says: Sep 10, 2013 8:30 PM

    I can see it now one of the big offensive lineman will start playing like him. And they’ll clean his clock like Alvin Mack on the old movie”The Program” and he’ll be out for the season.

  51. mdd913 says: Sep 10, 2013 8:32 PM

    This comment about being dirty coming from a Saints player. Laughable.

    ———————————————————————-

    FACT: The only opposing offensive player to suffer any kind of injury against the Saints in the supposed “bounty” years was Giants tackle Kareem McKenzie, and it was a hamstring tear.
    That is an undeniable FACT and you can look it up.

    It’s time to end the “Bountygate” myth which Goodell only perpetuated to curry public favor for all the lawsuits the NFL is facing.

  52. sbarron2000 says: Sep 10, 2013 8:38 PM

    Vontae Davis (Colts) was called for the same penalty on Sunday against the Raiders. Same situation, too -INT return. I guess he can expect his fine notification any minute now, right? If not, why not?

    Apparently Suh’s illegal low block shows his lack of respect for his fellow players’ careers and generally demonstrates his disregard for humanity. But Davis’ illegal low block is just football? There is a clear double standard here.

  53. rmc1995 says: Sep 10, 2013 8:39 PM

    Suh gets high/lowed every single game. He gets cut blocked probably 10 times a game minimum. His knees and the knees of every Dlineman are targeted by the likes of Watson and Sullivan every’s game…and in most cases it’s legal and much worse than what Suh did. So save the nonsense that someone should go after Shu’s knees…they already do. It’s coached and league approved.

    Watson should stop cut blocking and lobby the saints linemen to do the same. Other wise he’s not really serious about player safety.

  54. detroitcityy says: Sep 10, 2013 8:39 PM

    Why do so many people in the NFL cry about useless topics that have nothing to do with them

  55. grumpyoleman says: Sep 10, 2013 8:41 PM

    Wasn’t dirty he got his right shoulder in front of the guy before hitting him in the thigh. He could have easily taken out his knees if that was his intent

  56. jayniner says: Sep 10, 2013 8:42 PM

    Wow, An NFL player suggesting they take responsibility for their own actions and hold each other accountable, on/off the field?

  57. kenstabler says: Sep 10, 2013 8:43 PM

    Thank god that the Lions did not play the 49er’s this week, and Suh cut a 49er player! Oh my god knuckles from Harbaugh.

  58. jsally430 says: Sep 10, 2013 8:50 PM

    the block has all ways been viewed as a dirty play. pretty much the same thing Warren sapp did to chad cliffton

  59. sbarron2000 says: Sep 10, 2013 8:51 PM

    FACT: The only opposing offensive player to suffer any kind of injury against the Saints in the supposed “bounty” years was Giants tackle Kareem McKenzie, and it was a hamstring tear.
    That is an undeniable FACT and you can look it up.

    It’s time to end the “Bountygate” myth which Goodell only perpetuated to curry public favor for all the lawsuits the NFL is facing.
    ————————————–
    FACT: Suh has never caused any kind of injury to any opposing player by playing “dirty.” It’s time to end the Suh is dirty myth which is only perpetrated to curry website hits.

  60. bearsfanohio says: Sep 10, 2013 8:52 PM

    *whether

  61. j16941 says: Sep 10, 2013 8:52 PM

    Why are we talking to Ben Watson about this? “Enough is Enough”.

  62. ithinkipeedmyself says: Sep 10, 2013 8:53 PM

    It’d be awesome to see a “Burt Reynolds/The Longest Yard” nut-chunker pulled on this taint of a child named Suh.

  63. sully54 says: Sep 10, 2013 8:54 PM

    7 times that exact same infraction occurred last year. Most believe this was not an intentional act designed to injure.

    Can anybody name who the guilty parties were last year? I didn’t think so.

    Be honest, if Suh’s intent was to cheap shot Sullivan and take him out Sullivan would not have walked off the field.

  64. donnymacjack says: Sep 10, 2013 8:54 PM

    If Suh ends up costing someone a season (or worse their career) he should be sued for some of that 9+ million he makes annually.

  65. ivanpavlov0000 says: Sep 10, 2013 8:56 PM

    Suh is worse than Anthony Hernandez. All Hernandez did was kill some people. Suh threw a cut block against a player chasing the ball carrier.

    Clearly Suh is a bigger problem than anything that’s happened in the history of the NFL. Someone has to stop him, but everyone who can is afraid of him. We’re all doomed.

  66. patsbrat says: Sep 10, 2013 9:03 PM

    Very well said by Watson, especially making the point about not calling it dirty because he did not know intent.

    But intent or no, there is a history of this kind of thing with Suh. He is now being called out by other players, not just the media. He seems to need an education. Watson mentions sitting him down and talking to him as players. Hopefully some of his teammates will do so. Players from other teams could leverage the union to send a message as well.

    These are not the actions of a team captain. If nothing else I hope taking away the captaincy is at least being considered.

  67. trickbunny says: Sep 10, 2013 9:03 PM

    sgtdiver says:
    Sep 10, 2013 7:57 PM

    Keep crying guys. As a lions fan I can say he plays dirty and mean. I can also say I love the way he plays. So there it is. I can admit he’s dirty…can you admit that you would want him playing for your team?
    ———————————————-

    Ah, yes. The old last resort of someone who defends a dirty player. it’s just like Steelers fans with James Harrison. It always comes down to the desperate line, “You just wish he was on your team.” No. Honestly. I *really* would not want Suh on my team and, in fact, I’d be really upset if he somehow wound up on my team. Why would anyone want him? Does he singlehandedly win games? No. Did his monstrous talent (?) lead the Lions to the Super Bowl (or even a playoff win) last year? No. Sorry, *one* guy doesn’t make the difference…. So why would anyone want this clown? It’s not as if he makes a difference being there. All he’s good for is a stop now and then (just like everyone who plays the same position) and racking up fines. Big deal. Who needs that?

    So… honestly, the answer is no. Don’t want Suh and would be pissed if my team acquired him. I’m fortunate to be a fan of a team that doesn’t seem to have a lot of “character” problems and I’d like to see it stay that way. Don’t need any garbage or cancers.

  68. hellafiedfc says: Sep 10, 2013 9:05 PM

    Every one of you are sheeple.. Just piling on this guy because you sit behind a keyboard. Suh is stronger and plays harder. The fans of Detroit know what he means to this team. Watson is commenting from a different team in a different city. Worry about your own team.

    Let the thumbs down rain on me. It don’t care. Suh is getting a raw deal from NFL fans.

  69. patsbrat says: Sep 10, 2013 9:06 PM

    ivanpavlov0000 says: Sep 10, 2013 8:56 PM

    Suh is worse than Anthony Hernandez. All Hernandez did was kill some people. Suh threw a cut block against a player chasing the ball carrier.

    Clearly Suh is a bigger problem than anything that’s happened in the history of the NFL. Someone has to stop him, but everyone who can is afraid of him. We’re all doomed.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    I get the sarcasm ivan, but I think you mean Aaron Hernandez.

  70. bsandersislegend20 says: Sep 10, 2013 9:13 PM

    moagecu says:
    Sep 10, 2013 7:45 PM
    lionsblood73 keep defending that dirtbag. You may be too slow to understand but when he says multiple times he is including the stomping on the packers player, trying to rip maty ryans head off, the kick, etc. Suh is a dirtbag and should be suspended. Its telling when Rodney Harrisons response to the play is in disgust and hoping for his suspension too.

    ———————————————

    Suh donated 2.6 million dollars to the University of Nebraska. Yeah sounds like a total dirtbag. He also donated 250,000 to his highschool. But i guess only dirtbags do that huh? Sounds like a pretty terrible person a pretty classless man huh. You must be a viqueen fan.

  71. fdugrad says: Sep 10, 2013 9:14 PM

    One word for this dirt bag: PAYBACK.

  72. crazemastercraze says: Sep 10, 2013 9:16 PM

    Wish he’d play Hockey, that way he would have to answer to someone’s fists for all his cheap shot nonsense

  73. toilettorpedoes says: Sep 10, 2013 9:16 PM

    Knees hitting his shoulder, groins hitting his foot, almost twisting his ankle when another player decides to lie under his foot. And yet, he hasn’t complained 1 time

  74. byzr says: Sep 10, 2013 9:25 PM

    saw the play and it doesn’t look that bad but it’s the principle of the fact that 6’4 300lb guy threw himself at another 6’4 300lb guy who had no shot what so ever of making a play on the ball. the guy is going to hurt someone. i really find it hard to believe that he didn’t get suspended.

  75. roadbiscuit says: Sep 10, 2013 9:34 PM

    I see the usual attempt to minimize and deflect from fans. When players are speaking out and the union is going to intervene, there’s a problem even if the Commish would rather fine players $50k for shoes.

  76. igocommando says: Sep 10, 2013 9:36 PM

    tokyosandblaster says: Sep 10, 2013 7:55 PM

    I agree. Dirty players like this guy and Jared Allen, both of whom have a history of trying to end people’s careers and laughing about it, should be kicked out of the NFL.

    Attention seeking, talentless cavemen.
    —————————————-
    You forgot to add Clay Mathews.

  77. philtration says: Sep 10, 2013 9:53 PM

    sgtdiver says:
    Sep 10, 2013 7:57 PM
    Keep crying guys. As a lions fan I can say he plays dirty and mean. I can also say I love the way he plays. So there it is. I can admit he’s dirty…can you admit that you would want him playing for your team?
    =================================

    You are the poster child for why Detroit is a dead city.
    Enjoy watching your hero while sitting in your rotting mess of a town.

  78. azvikefan says: Sep 10, 2013 9:54 PM

    jason1980, “the saints NEVER injured anyone”. Really? Did you see Favre walking after the 2009 game? CHEAP SHOT. The saints were the dirtiest team, now the Lions have that title.

  79. thejuddstir says: Sep 10, 2013 10:16 PM

    “lionsblood73 says:
    Sep 10, 2013 7:37 PM
    Hey Ben, that play was illegal. It is an new rule this year, so he hasn’t done it multiple times. He got caught doing it once this year.”
    ===================================
    Lionsblood are you really that stupid? Seems to me that Suhsie is on his way to breaking every rule once that is considered dirty playing. After his multiple dirty plays it is unfathomable that Goodell didn’t suspend him. Stomps on a guys head, kicks a guy in the goonads, chop blocks from behind, etc. etc. according to Lionsblood, Suhsie should get at least one free pass for every dirty play he can think of.

  80. swaggyy says: Sep 10, 2013 10:17 PM

    Watson is irrelevant in Suhs mind

  81. ahs2 says: Sep 10, 2013 10:17 PM

    The reactions here are hilarious…he made a stupid play that cost the team and was fined 10x what he should have had based on his rep. As a Lions fan, my concern is Schwartz,; that idiot wont reign him in and it’s going to cost us a win whether due to a late penalty or since he’s a marked man, a suspension. Thats right Suh, love ya but you’re going to hurt the team.

  82. sabatimus says: Sep 10, 2013 10:22 PM

    The thing is Suh doesn’t seem like he cares at all about opponents’ safety. He lied about this hit to the knee, and his history indicates he’s willing to injure the opposition. I’m betting this fine will do nothing to change his play.

  83. chargerdano says: Sep 10, 2013 10:23 PM

    Yet offensive players can block low and its just good football. Why doesnt the nfl just get rid of defense? We can decide the champ by those qb challenges they used to do at the probowl

  84. jeffchadwick says: Sep 10, 2013 10:24 PM

    Who?

  85. richcranium2112 says: Sep 10, 2013 10:25 PM

    Nearly as annoying as Jim Harbaugh.

    Suh is definitely much more dangerous and seems to have no conscience about his actions.

    Both however, could be classified as pieces of $hyte.

  86. drpompanoduke says: Sep 10, 2013 10:32 PM

    Tired of all these political correct fans. Go watch the play where pouncey for steelers is injured. Every O linemen on the steelers is driving to take out a knee of the d lineman they’re blocking but that is ok. U think Shanahan in DC does not teach his O line to chop block aiming at the knee. Stupid Suh is getting this much flack for a hit that was legal last year

  87. mekahldownish says: Sep 10, 2013 10:34 PM

    You wouldn’t even hear about Suh if it wasn’t for the “stomp.” It’s all media driven. He had 1 personal foul penalty last year and that was even questionable. Go ahead and troll and talk about classless Lions fans – that’s garbage. You go ahead and jump on your bandwagon and I’ll go about being classless I guess.

  88. ahs2 says: Sep 10, 2013 10:38 PM

    By the way, anyone who watched the actual game recall the reaction from the commentators, spcificallynBrian Billick? He called it an undisciplibed play, no more conversation. It became a “dirty” play once the hacks got a hold of it…it was a dumb football play just like Matthews.

  89. izlez says: Sep 10, 2013 10:40 PM

    Soooo when exactly has he done this before?

    Players Suh has injured in his career: 0

    (this was a dangerous play, but there were multiple low block calls THIS WEEK)

  90. leroysbutler says: Sep 10, 2013 10:41 PM

    Need another meeting.

  91. jimispackers says: Sep 10, 2013 10:47 PM

    Suh will realize his wrongs when some crack-back block his knees and retires him a championship-less Lion.
    Love Jimi.

  92. ilovekneegrows says: Sep 10, 2013 10:49 PM

    sgtdiver says: Sep 10, 2013 7:57 PM

    Keep crying guys. As a lions fan I can say he plays dirty and mean. I can also say I love the way he plays. So there it is. I can admit he’s dirty…can you admit that you would want him playing for your team?

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    I’m sure you are well-rounded enough to love it when someone does it to Megatron or Stafford and blows out their knee. Please, defend it then.

  93. orivar says: Sep 10, 2013 10:58 PM

    “Clearly Suh is a bigger problem than anything that’s happened in the history of the NFL”

    You need to look at the history of the NFL. 80s and earlier, Suh would fit right in. Hell the Raiders made a legacy off of playing rough and dirty.

  94. cmosiedrum says: Sep 10, 2013 11:09 PM

    Elementary Watson “It is a team game, and at some point it is going to cost the team a game.”

    Sherlock continued, “Or maybe…cost someone’s Anterior Cruciate Ligament! Or a femur bone!! Good Gawd Watson, this Lion has got to be stopped!!”

  95. 4d9erdynasty says: Sep 10, 2013 11:10 PM

    Anthony Hernandez?????^^^^^

  96. jaketdogg says: Sep 10, 2013 11:21 PM

    There was a quick shot of Suh and Sullivan casually talking after the game, obviously Sully didn’t think it was dirty. These comments here are hilarious, esp. seeing how both players are obviously OK with what went down.

  97. nunpuncher says: Sep 10, 2013 11:34 PM

    What’s Suh going to do this Thanksgiving? Throw Aaron Rodgers into the stands?

  98. derek1800 says: Sep 10, 2013 11:53 PM

    I am betting hardly anyone here actually watched the reply of the issue. It was definitely not intentional as Suh engaged from the side of Sullivan and his helmet is actually in front of Sullivan at his waste level when he first hits him. He then slides down and into his knees. He didn’t directly go for the knees and thus I don’t think it was intentional. Foul yes, Fine debatable. In the end I believe this issue is blown up bigger than it really is because of Suh past but he definitely deserves the microscope due to past dirty plays.

    With all the talk of ending someones career on purpose: I wouldn’t mind seeing Greenway and Harrison Smiths career come to an end asap. Talk about dirty play. It ticks me off that everytime I watch CJ play the Vikings, both of those pathetic losers go after his head. They already gave him a concussion and nerve damage last year and continued their head hunting last week. I mean CJ is 6′ 7″ and they are launching upwards off the ground to go after his head. Definitely on purpose because no one tackles that way. Its too bad Suh didn’t take out their knees.

  99. northstarnic says: Sep 11, 2013 12:05 AM

    Starts at the top. Schwartz is a dirt bag and Suh is his dirty minion.

  100. chi01town says: Sep 11, 2013 12:20 AM

    thats exactly what Suh thinks..He belive that the other players are afraid of him. What they are is smarter than him. Suh is getting all
    of the punishment. and he needs to be put out of the game.

  101. urbusted2 says: Sep 11, 2013 12:24 AM

    hatesycophants says:
    Sep 10, 2013 7:50 PM
    I take it Watson never watched the play.

    Keep up the campaign to get Suh suspended, Michael. It’s adorable.

    @hatesycophants
    I watched it. Like that center was in the play. He wasn’t close to catching that linebacker. It was a dirty, needless block. Period.

  102. fusionix7 says: Sep 11, 2013 1:13 AM

    I think a play that impacted his team in such a big way FINALLY got through his thick head that this stuff can’t happen.

    Time to call a meeting with himself to quit being an arsehole and play within the rules.

  103. lbmclean says: Sep 11, 2013 1:25 AM

    Some OL needs do do a high-low on that scumbag. Talking and fining don’t work

  104. stoicpaisano says: Sep 11, 2013 1:28 AM

    FACT: Suh has never caused any kind of injury to any opposing player by playing “dirty.” It’s time to end the Suh is dirty myth which is only perpetrated to curry website hits.

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    FACT: you don’t have to be DJ Swearinger and end a career to be considered dirty. This is what, Suh’s sixth fine? Just because you miss when shooting a gun doesn’t mean it’s not an illegal act.

    FACT: Like anything else in like, prior history is going to come into play when discussing fines. That’s why Suh got six figures and Vontae Davis will likely get less.

    FACT: Watson (who, alongside Suh are two of the book smartest guys in the league) has been a member if the Saints for approximately six months. The closest association he has with Bountygate is being teammates in Cleveland with Fujita the last three seasons. Alas, neither of them made a lot of noise on the field. As a browns fan, this is commonplace.

    That said, Suh plays borderline and he has been thus far been unable to adapt his playing style. At this point, he’s cost himself only $$, but has to be getting close to (another) a suspension, which hurts the Lions on the field. That’s what Watson was driving towards.

  105. superiordrinking says: Sep 11, 2013 3:07 AM

    Clay Mathews: launches himself at Kap after clearly running out of bounds – no media buzz, no league fine

    Stellers center: Out for the year because, while he was engaged with a DT, his own RG goes for a chop block ( High – Low Block) and the guy misses and falls into his own player- Small Media Buzz , no league fine

    Deshawn Jackson: While running out of bounds, Redskins CB grabs him from the back of pads ( Horse Collar ) and deranged him to the ground – no media buzz, no league fine.

    2012 Giants – Redskins. Redskin kicks other player, who is laying on the field during a fumble recover, in the head. No media buzz, no league fine.

    List can go on forever….
    Suh is no different than any other player

    All of you who love football and complain need to stop being fans of Hall Of Famers
    Ronnie Lott
    Mike Singletary
    Reggie White
    Lawrence Taylor

    Complain Complain Complain
    One day you look back and say it WAS a good game back then.

    It’s football

  106. bbk1000 says: Sep 11, 2013 5:07 AM

    I actually felt bad for these clowns before realizing that the Lions and their fans are a just second class bunch….

  107. xjokerz says: Sep 11, 2013 5:20 AM

    Maybe suh should murder 2 people like ray Lewis then he will be loved! Go lions

  108. wabbitslayer says: Sep 11, 2013 6:53 AM

    Whether he is actually as dirty as some people say he is or not….does he not realize how many millions he is losing b/c of endorsement deals he will never get due to his reputation?

    I don’t know if he’s dirty, but he sure is stupid.

  109. Stupid Lions Fan says: Sep 11, 2013 8:00 AM

    Serious question – if we put Suh on the trading block… how many teams would call?

  110. dexterismyhero says: Sep 11, 2013 8:12 AM

    @jason1980 says:Sep 10, 2013 7:41 PM

    And before the haters get their undies in a wad with “bounty gate” references, the Saints NEVER injured anyone, and the League Office NEVER provided evidence that we did, just lots of narrow interpretation. Goodell’s imagination, oh well…….
    ==================================Grow the eff up lil boy. Post somewhere else please.

  111. hodag54501 says: Sep 11, 2013 8:24 AM

    $100,000 isn’t going to do it. The only way to put some sense into the mind of a player who refuses to change is to take them off the field. In baseball, 65 games cost Ryan Braun $3 million bucks and a year of production in his prime. In 1963, the NFL suspended Paul Hornung and Alex Karras one full season for gambling on football.
    Booting Suh out for repeated dirty play for the rest of the season would send a message, and put a financial hurt on him. It’s not for one play, it’s for a series of dirty plays.
    And the argument that he gets abused inside, every d-lineman gets that and you don’t see them going for the knees. The unspoken rule is you don’t go for the knees.

  112. 80sbroncofan says: Sep 11, 2013 8:35 AM

    Lions should definitely cut him. Just so the Broncos could have a chance to pick him up. Everyone knows that any team would love to have him on there side. Dirty player or not.

  113. alwaters9 says: Sep 11, 2013 8:41 AM

    Who is Benjamin Watson and who cares what he has to say? He is using this as an opportunity for some free publicity, and as usual the media eats it up.

  114. marthisdil says: Sep 11, 2013 8:44 AM

    franbotel says: Sep 10, 2013 8:05 PM

    His dumb ? getting an engineering degree from Nebraska makes him better than dumb whats your major in Keyboard warrior. He is talented, if he wasn’t he wont be in the NFL. Go find another way to take out your fustration

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    I’m SURE he passed all his classes on his own, too…yeah…right.

  115. kevinb73 says: Sep 11, 2013 8:45 AM

    the block has all ways been viewed as a dirty play. pretty much the same thing Warren sapp did to chad cliffton
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    While Warren Sapp’s shot was unnecessary and cheap, he did not target Clifton’s knees. When you decide to go for a specific body part that could permanently end someone’s career and cause long-term health issues, it takes “cheap” and “dirty” shots to a new low. Suh makes Sapp look “clean” in comparison.

    I’m all about the physicality of football, but guys like that have issues that have nothing to do with football.

  116. alwaters9 says: Sep 11, 2013 8:48 AM

    Roger Goodell is a joke. And Pete Rozelle is turning over in his grave over what the NFL has turned into.

  117. fwippel says: Sep 11, 2013 8:52 AM

    Suh is not going to change his behavior until he starts losing game checks via suspensions. A $100,000 fine is chump change for him, and the idea that this fine is enough for a repeat cheap-shot artist is a joke.

    The league cannot legitimately claim to take player safety seriously when it fails to suspend Suh for his cheap shot on Sullivan, not after all the other incidents Suh has been cited for. A four game suspension should have been issued. Maybe if Suh had injuried Sullivan enough to knock him out for the season, the league would have gotten it right.

  118. jjackwagon says: Sep 11, 2013 9:13 AM

    sbarron2000 says:
    Sep 10, 2013 8:38 PM
    Vontae Davis (Colts) was called for the same penalty on Sunday against the Raiders. Same situation, too -INT return. I guess he can expect his fine notification any minute now, right? If not, why not?

    Apparently Suh’s illegal low block shows his lack of respect for his fellow players’ careers and generally demonstrates his disregard for humanity. But Davis’ illegal low block is just football? There is a clear double standard here.

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    And equally clear is the fact that one player has a history of cheap shots and one doesn’t.

  119. psousa1 says: Sep 11, 2013 9:35 AM

    This is not a new rule. It was implemented before Suh came into the league. You cannot block below the waist in transition: Punt return, kickoff return, interception/fumble return.

  120. bigtrav425 says: Sep 11, 2013 9:52 AM

    I thought it was a good play!…how he was fined that much or at all is asinine…

  121. bighurt228 says: Sep 11, 2013 10:34 AM

    Well said Ben ………..Suhs play reflects shwartz’s disposition !!

  122. funktron2x says: Sep 11, 2013 11:41 AM

    Lol. This has officially reached tinfoil-hat, Salem-witch-hunt status. Or, maybe we just now live in the age where if we don’t like sometime enough, we might as well leap to wickedly absurd conclusions to make sure we mollify our feelbads. Look, people. If the guy ACTUALLY HURTS SOMEONE, then we can fly off the handle and scream bloody murder. Til then, this is all a bunch of whiny baloney.

  123. funktron2x says: Sep 11, 2013 11:54 AM

    I think I just gave myself whiplash shaking my head at the stupidity reflected in these comments. Not just stupidity, but cowardice, to. Not a one of you talking payback or career-ending injuries for Suh would ever put your real name behind your hateful commentary.

  124. tavia47 says: Sep 11, 2013 11:56 AM

    It doesn’t matter what side of the ball you play he has to be stopped or out of football. You’re talking about people’s careers at stake.

  125. tavia47 says: Sep 11, 2013 11:59 AM

    Someone neds

  126. clayminator says: Sep 11, 2013 2:00 PM

    0 tackles 0 sacks against the vikes

    OVERRATED!!!!!!!

  127. bigjerk21 says: Sep 11, 2013 2:53 PM

    I don’t want to necessarily defend the play, or the lack of judgement in Suh’s past, but this is a “media witch-hunt” and many of you are falling for it. Suh embraced the “villain” role early in his career, and now its seems the media is ready to pounce at a drop of a hat. Last year’s Thanksgiving day game is a perfect example. No sooner did the “kick-like” action occur (promptly followed by Matt Schaub PRETENDING like he got hit like some kind of soccer player), NBC rolls a 5 minute recap of all of Suh’s questionable plays with a full roll out of how terrible of a human he is. I am confident that he was not trying to kick Schaub, I am sure he was not intending to injure Sullivan on Sunday. He stomped on the Green Bay player’s arm in direct response to a fight they were engaged in (which is conveniently edited out of the replays). HE is big, mean, and plays on the edge. Plenty of guys play that way, and some teams lose their coach for a season because their problem is systemic. I just feel that he is being painted as more of a villain than many other players because he accepted the role early on. The microscope is on him and now he needs to play on “eggshells.” Watch teams like Green Bay and San Francisco play, and tell me that their defenses aren’t the cheapest, chippiest, dirtiest in the NFL. They are always going to the edge, tackling out of bounds, instigating other players, jumping on players who are on the ground instead of just touching them to make them down, etc. But since Clay Matthews has pretty hair, its all “just football.”

  128. isphet71 says: Sep 11, 2013 3:52 PM

    thepftpoet says:
    Sep 10, 2013 7:49 PM
    Look at all the classless lions fans backing up this embecile…pathetic

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    Embicile… wow. Just wow. This is probably the best post on the interwebz.

    Please stop using big words. Just stop.

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