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Schiano says Freeman missed team photo, has been late for other events

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It’s been a dizzying 24 hours for the Buccaneers.

Yesterday at this time, their biggest problem was a loss that would have been a win but for linebacker Lavonte David shoving Jets quarterback Geno Smith at the sideline in the final seconds of the game.  Now, a two-front war has emerged, with players apparently concerned about the coaching staff, and the coaching staff (and perhaps players) concerned about quarterback Josh Freeman.

Our report of a players-only meeting got things rolling, and then Shaun King and Ross Tucker sprayed some jet fuel on the campfire with their comments on NBCSN’s Pro Football Talk.

Coincidentally (or not), that sparked an effort to publicize the fact that Freeman had missed the team photo on Monday of last week, two days before players cast ballots regarding the team’s six captains.

On Thursday, coach Greg Schiano admitted that Freeman missed the team photo, explaining that the quarterback overslept.

That was dealt with by me internally,” Schiano said.

Schiano added that Freeman has been late for things.  But so have other players.

“He wouldn’t be the only one who has been late for something,” Schiano said, adding that he still trusts Josh Freeman.

Regardless, it’s clear that there’s a problem.

“Any time that as a coach you’re trying to instill winning habits in your entire football team, in your organization, really.  The way we cook the food, the way we practice, the way we clean the building.  We want everything to be an elite level,” Schiano said.  “So when you have mishaps, you have things where guys don’t do things they’re supposed to do when they’re supposed to do it, does it concern me?  Sure it does.”

Schiano is trying not to be concerned about anything unrelated to the task at hand — preparing for Sunday’s game against the Saints.  Asked about the controversy regarding whether the votes were miscounted deliberately, Schiano said he began to wonder where the talk originated but then reminded himself of this mantra:  “The easiest way to be defeated is to be distracted.”

There are suddenly plenty of distractions in Tampa.

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57 Responses to “Schiano says Freeman missed team photo, has been late for other events”
  1. kwgator says: Sep 12, 2013 2:57 PM

    TEBOW! TEBOW! TEBOW!

  2. warhammer420 says: Sep 12, 2013 2:58 PM

    and with the #1 pick in the 2014 NFL Draft, the Bucs select: Teddy Bridgewater

  3. rpiotr01 says: Sep 12, 2013 2:58 PM

    If I knew someplace was infested with MRSA I wouldn’t show up either.

  4. godofwine330 says: Sep 12, 2013 2:59 PM

    People blame the player too often, but sometimes it is poor leadership. Believe me I face it here at work. When you have a boss that does not have your back and makes it painfully obvious your commitment is going to wane because coming in to work is like a personal gut punch every time. Right now the coach is trying to sway the court of public opinion to affect the perception of player in a passive aggressive way.

    The coach didn’t draft Freeman and has made it obvious in many statements that he doesn’t want him. People play better when they are wanted, anyone doubting this need only to look as far as Alex Smith last year. Even though the 9′ers drafted Kap, Harbaugh stomped for Alex Smith at every press conference leaving smith no doubt that he was the guy. Even if Harbaugh was lying thru his teen, Smith believed it. Freeman hasn’t seen it in his time since Schiano and his sub-500 college record came to Tampa.

    Build it and they will come. But creak it, ignore it, and it will undoubtedly crumble. He is treating Freeman like Belichick treated Bernie Kosar, and Freeman is a much better player than Kosar was at the time. He needs to either be shown the love, or shown the door. I don’t think VY ever had the C in Tennessee, and Freeman has had it for 3 years.

  5. cuda1234 says: Sep 12, 2013 3:00 PM

    Of course, the Bucs HAD a winning culture and organization before Jon Gruden messed it all up.

  6. larry321 says: Sep 12, 2013 3:00 PM

    Good thing they gave up multiple draft picks and are spending 15% of the payroll this year on Revis. That’s sure gonna put them over the hump.

  7. ctiggs says: Sep 12, 2013 3:01 PM

    Thank god, i have Kaepernick and Harbaugh #blessed

  8. mp4philly says: Sep 12, 2013 3:02 PM

    “The way we cook the food, the way we practice, the way we clean the building.”

    -Interesting, MRSA much?

  9. wearethesteelers says: Sep 12, 2013 3:03 PM

    Losing to the Jets will drive a team off the deep end.

  10. bucrightoff says: Sep 12, 2013 3:03 PM

    Freeman has a reputation around Tampa for being a partier. When Raheem was here not only was that tolerated, it was encouraged. Schiano just has to continue cleaning up the mess Raheem left and Freeman appears to be the last holdover from the Raheem era that has to go.

    Maybe Schiano eventually gets himself fired for this, but if thats what it takes to remove the kind of loosey goosey, do whatever you want attitude of the Raheem era, then so be it.

  11. koolaidcircusbeast says: Sep 12, 2013 3:05 PM

    Freeman hasn’t grown up yet. He’s more concerned with sucking his cheek bones in for photos than playing for the Buccaneers.

    Still, it’s Schiano’s fault he didn’t buy Gosh an alarm clock.

  12. twilson962 says: Sep 12, 2013 3:05 PM

    What is going on down there

  13. dino2997 says: Sep 12, 2013 3:08 PM

    Freeman is not doing himself any favors in his quest for a new contract. Not only are the Buccaneers noticing but so are potential future employers.

  14. jason1980 says: Sep 12, 2013 3:08 PM

    I’ll tell this, the Saints are on a mission. I suggest the Bucs begin to focus really soon, because Sean Payton’s taking no prisoners this season. Saints defense have something to prove and they’re chopping at the bit to prove it.

  15. mrbigass says: Sep 12, 2013 3:12 PM

    The way we clean the building?

    I’ve heard here he is a micro-manager and if that’s what he thinks about then he’s earned the title……

  16. tcostant says: Sep 12, 2013 3:13 PM

    Maybe the Giants coach isn’t crazy for starting the meeting 5 to 10 minutes early.

  17. johnnyjagfan says: Sep 12, 2013 3:13 PM

    “The way we clean the building”. Wow. That will be on a sign, in front of a jury in Tynes v. Tampa Bay Buccaneers Football Club.

  18. jbaxt says: Sep 12, 2013 3:16 PM

    The raiders will give you 2, 1st rounders for Freeman, but you have to be willing to cut him. But don’t cut him, they will only give up draft picks for their players. See Palmer, Curry, and a plethora of other players.

  19. cguy7 says: Sep 12, 2013 3:17 PM

    Stop it, Josh Freeman has won nothing in his career. Please don’t compare him to Kosar. Kosar was a defensive collapse and a boneheaded fumble from being in 2 Super Bowls, and still holds the playoff record for yards passing with 489. He never had a Vincent Jackson or Mike Williams either… He’s just not a good QB…

  20. brenenostler says: Sep 12, 2013 3:19 PM

    Let the Mike Glennon era in Tampa officially begin…

  21. 11inthebox says: Sep 12, 2013 3:20 PM

    @ godofwine330 who says:

    People blame the player too often, but sometimes it is poor leadership. Believe me I face it here at work. When you have a boss that does not have your back and makes it painfully obvious your commitment is going to wane because coming in to work is like a personal gut punch every time. Right now the coach is trying to sway the court of public opinion to affect the perception of player in a passive aggressive way.

    The coach didn’t draft Freeman and has made it obvious in many statements that he doesn’t want him. People play better when they are wanted, anyone doubting this need only to look as far as Alex Smith last year. Even though the 9′ers drafted Kap, Harbaugh stomped for Alex Smith at every press conference leaving smith no doubt that he was the guy. Even if Harbaugh was lying thru his teen, Smith believed it. Freeman hasn’t seen it in his time since Schiano and his sub-500 college record came to Tampa.

    Build it and they will come. But creak it, ignore it, and it will undoubtedly crumble. He is treating Freeman like Belichick treated Bernie Kosar, and Freeman is a much better player than Kosar was at the time. He needs to either be shown the love, or shown the door. I don’t think VY ever had the C in Tennessee, and Freeman has had it for 3 years.
    ———————————
    Brilliantly stated. All of it.

  22. bennyb82 says: Sep 12, 2013 3:22 PM

    It would seem counterproductive to let the public know stuff like this…wouldn’t it be smarter to take the high road and hope Freeman gets it together. This will not help…

  23. schmitty2 says: Sep 12, 2013 3:22 PM

    godofwine330 says:Sep 12, 2013 2:59 PM

    People blame the player too often, but sometimes it is poor leadership. Believe me I face it here at work. When you have a boss that does not have your back and makes it painfully obvious your commitment is going to wane because coming in to work is like a personal gut punch every time. Right now the coach is trying to sway the court of public opinion to affect the perception of player in a passive aggressive way.

    The coach didn’t draft Freeman and has made it obvious in many statements that he doesn’t want him. People play better when they are wanted, anyone doubting this need only to look as far as Alex Smith last year. Even though the 9′ers drafted Kap, Harbaugh stomped for Alex Smith at every press conference leaving smith no doubt that he was the guy. Even if Harbaugh was lying thru his teen, Smith believed it. Freeman hasn’t seen it in his time since Schiano and his sub-500 college record came to Tampa.

    Build it and they will come. But creak it, ignore it, and it will undoubtedly crumble. He is treating Freeman like Belichick treated Bernie Kosar, and Freeman is a much better player than Kosar was at the time. He needs to either be shown the love, or shown the door. I don’t think VY ever had the C in Tennessee, and Freeman has had it for 3 years

    If I was your boss I probably wouldn’t have your back either since you wrote a darn near novel on this site presumibly during work hours.

  24. idontcarewhatuthink says: Sep 12, 2013 3:24 PM

    After having to put up with Sucs fans getting on here and proclaiming, year after year, that THIS is they’re year, and watch out for us, and all the pieces are in place, blah blah blah–these articles are hysterical.

    Here’s some advice, losers: wait until AFTER your crappy team actually does something before you run your mouth.

  25. rcali says: Sep 12, 2013 3:29 PM

    Did by any chance his dog eat his play book too?

  26. lks311 says: Sep 12, 2013 3:33 PM

    How can you have a grease fire, like this, so early in the season?

  27. onebucplace says: Sep 12, 2013 3:33 PM

    Ray Perkins 2K is what I call Schiano.

    Wow, a college tough guy coach who’s act doesn’t work in the NFL — amazing. No one saw that coming.

    If we can only keep Schiano or Freeman — I vote Freeman. If we can only keep Schiano or our 4th string DT, I’ll take the DT. If we can only keep Schiano of the staph infection, I’ll go with the staph infection.

  28. bach2112 says: Sep 12, 2013 3:37 PM

    Leave Kosar out of it. If not for him backing up Aikman and coming in playing awesome Cowboys would have only one 2 SBs in 90s.

  29. deltaoracle says: Sep 12, 2013 3:38 PM

    One or the other will be gone by week 9 most likely.

  30. mrsmell says: Sep 12, 2013 3:39 PM

    and with the #1 pick in the 2014 NFL Draft, the Bucs select: Teddy Bridgewater
    ……………………………………………………………………………….
    No no no, I want him to go to Minn. AP might do a Barry and retire because his team, nvm he is the team.

  31. camelknuckles says: Sep 12, 2013 3:40 PM

    Man if you guys are gonna comment on the Bucs atleast KNOW your sh!t… The Bucs gave up their 1st in this most recent draft and give up a 3rd in next years draft if they keep Revis.. It seriously doesn’t take a genius to figure out that if you are a mediocre college coach you can’t expect to be better in the PRO’s. Schiano is the problem when it comes to QB’s.. name ONE good QB he had in college…and he shouldn’t even be our coach and wasn’t our first choice…hell he wasn’t even our 3rd choice.. If we offered Chip more money he would have left. Schiano doesn’t make it to next season if Mark is smart

  32. evilglazers666 says: Sep 12, 2013 3:49 PM

    “the way we clean the building”

    Clean by firing the staff every few months or clean up staff infections? If anything should be cleaned, it should be the filthy Glazers.

  33. llonll says: Sep 12, 2013 3:52 PM

    There will an epic house cleaning at the end of te year. If Schiano and Dominick didn’t want him, trading him in the off season would have been best. Know pretty much all value is gone. Completely mismanaged, everything. Why go after Goldson and Revis if Freeman isn’t the guy? Can you see any of them staying if they don’t go deep into the playoffs?

  34. realfootballfan says: Sep 12, 2013 3:54 PM

    And the smear job begins as Schiano and Dominic try (unsuccessfully) to save their jobs.

  35. cappa662 says: Sep 12, 2013 3:54 PM

    I remember this guy saying on draft day that one of his favorite things to do was… sleep. When I heard that, I knew he wasn’t going to be a very good NFL QB. Never heard Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers ever say that.

  36. bobulated says: Sep 12, 2013 3:56 PM

    I remember when a Falcons coach ran a QB out of town for being late and missing the team pictures. Getting traded from the circus that head clown Jerry Glanville ran worked out OK for Brett Favre, might be the best thing for Freeman too at this point.

  37. onebucplace says: Sep 12, 2013 3:56 PM

    bucrightoff says:
    Sep 12, 2013 3:03 PM
    Freeman has a reputation around Tampa for being a partier.

    ————-

    Nice story, but he has no such rep. You sir are a liar.

  38. sbvb10 says: Sep 12, 2013 3:58 PM

    Both of these guys are gone next year

  39. totallyuselessme says: Sep 12, 2013 3:59 PM

    Control-freak college coaches with losing records don’t make it in the NFL. It’s clear his players aren’t listening to him.

    It’s clear this guy doesn’t have any kind of reins on his football team.

    First year in the NFL, final year in the NFL. Welcome back to the NCAA, buddy.

  40. johanvil says: Sep 12, 2013 4:04 PM

    Schiano clearly has already lost his team. He won’t last the season.

  41. onebucplace says: Sep 12, 2013 4:06 PM

    Take away the DII wins in college and Schiano was a loser at Reuters, there is very little reason to think that he can take his losing DI record and be anything more than a 7-9 coach in the pros.

  42. h8glazersgobucs says: Sep 12, 2013 4:07 PM

    Liar! Chop Block him during a timeout!

  43. h8glazersgobucs says: Sep 12, 2013 4:08 PM

    Freeman is at every club around town in his limo!

  44. onebucplace says: Sep 12, 2013 4:09 PM

    Also remember when Freeman was a mobile QB when he weighed about 260lbs. Then during the offseason 2012 he dropped a bunch of weight and got into the 225lbs range.

    BUT Schiano is a tough guy coach, and tough guys don’t have QBs running around like a bunch of fairies. So Schiano strapped huge knee braces to Freeman and told him not to run, not to be mobile.

    This is the class of dip-s we’re dealing with in Schiano. The only thing he’s ever done that I liked was playing 60-mins in the Giants game, outside of that the guy is a hack.

  45. bucforever says: Sep 12, 2013 4:19 PM

    Just start winning and most of the problems will fade away. Sounds simple ? It is! With that said the Bucs should be o and 3 after the Patriots game!

  46. drunkwino says: Sep 12, 2013 4:21 PM

    Man, I’m a Saints fan and I feel for Bucs fans having to put up with this craptacular spectacle. The Bucs might be the first team in NFL history that improves if/when the inevitable interim head coach takes over.

  47. brooks07 says: Sep 12, 2013 4:26 PM

    Schiano continues to show what a bad coach he is. What does he benefit by telling the media that Freeman “also missed other events”? That sounds like the twist of the knife, not total support.

  48. notoriousjebus says: Sep 12, 2013 4:33 PM

    Another class move from Shiano. I can think of nothing more disgusting then a coach leaking negative stories to the media about one of his players, it really shows the character of this guy.

    But I guess it’s pretty much what you would expect from an unaccomplished ego maniac who used to confine NFL scouts in a tiny area of the stands when he was the head coach at Rutgers. Because we all know that as a college head coach, alienating the future potential employers of your players is the smartest thing to do.

  49. florioleadswitnesses says: Sep 12, 2013 4:36 PM

    bucrightoff says:
    Sep 12, 2013 3:03 PM

    “Freeman has a reputation around Tampa for being a partier. When Raheem was here not only was that tolerated, it was encouraged.’
    ____________________________________

    Would you mind shedding some light on how Raheem encouraged partying? Did he put a DJ and an open bar in the locker room? Did he put strobe lights in the cafeteria? Did he hire “dancers just trying to put themselves through college” to entertain at team meetings?

    Well???????????????????

  50. bucrightoff says: Sep 12, 2013 4:50 PM

    florioleadswitnesses says:Sep 12, 2013 4:36 PM

    Would you mind shedding some light on how Raheem encouraged partying? Did he put a DJ and an open bar in the locker room? Did he put strobe lights in the cafeteria? Did he hire “dancers just trying to put themselves through college” to entertain at team meetings?

    Well???????????????????
    _____________________________________

    He was out at the clubs with the players. You gotta remember Raheem was 33 years old when he took over as coach. I mean a couple guys on the roster were older than him. He just wasn’t very mature.

  51. theallegedone says: Sep 12, 2013 4:56 PM

    This isn’t Rutgers Schiano. Some things should be handled in house. You don’t throw your starting QB under the national bus. We get it, you didn’t draft him. But he’s your QB. See you in Minnesota next year Freeman.

  52. 026bucsfan says: Sep 12, 2013 5:28 PM

    The rest of his quote:

    “I do trust Josh,” Schiano said. “Josh and I share a lot of things together. Yeah.When you have mishaps, when you have guys who don’t do things they’re supposed to do when they’re supposed to do it, does it concern me? Sure it does. But the same guy has done a lot of things he’s supposed to do when he’s supposed to do them in clutch situations dating back as late as Sunday. He took the team down and put us in field goal range to win the game. I think everything has to be put in balance. I understand the job you guys have to do. I hope you understand from my standpoint I’m not going to allow anything to get us off preparation for Sunday’s game.”

  53. onebucplace says: Sep 12, 2013 5:37 PM

    I always say Reuters and Rutgers wrong — its because of my complete disdain for anything to do with New Jersey and my moronic 4th grade level spelling ability. Please don’t point out my obvious mistakes or you’re a bully of the 1st degree and I will sue you for a hate crime.

    Thank you and God bless.

  54. dogman9 says: Sep 12, 2013 6:09 PM

    @onebucplace

    Speaking for everyone in this great state of NJ, we are very glad that you are not.

  55. crossbuckpass says: Sep 12, 2013 6:32 PM

    “The way we cook the food, the way we practice, the way we clean the building. We want everything to be an elite level”

    Sounds eerily similar to former GM Scott Pioli’s method of operation during his tenure in KC. And we all know how well that turned out. Pioli and his oversized ego micromanaged and spent more time worrying about candy wrappers on the floor instead of making the football team better on the field.

    Sad but true.

  56. sillec28 says: Sep 12, 2013 9:02 PM

    Schiano was well down the list of HCs the Bucs wanted but everyone else turned them down. Nobody, probably including the Glazers, was thrilled with that hire but a team has to have a HC and he was available. However, I don’t blame Schiano for Freeman’s problems. Freeman is in his fifth year as a starter, three years under Raheem who pushed to draft him and two under Schiano. Except for one good year Freeman hasn’t played consistently well under either of them. Hopefully the Bucs will have a bad enough year that they can draft Bridgewater because Glennon isn’t the answer.

  57. spoiledbratswhosuck says: Sep 13, 2013 8:14 AM

    NFL players who are prima donnas need to be shown the door and fast. Playing should be a priviledge not a right.

    Oversleeping means you do not give sh^t, lack of responsibility. NO wonder the Bucs stink.

    I had a high school coach that use to lock the door to the locker room at 3pm. If you showed up a second later, no practice.

    If you did it a 2nd time, gone!

    Nobody was ever late.

    Too much money has polluted the game, period.

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