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Manziel is not a perfect prospect, but the NFL is intrigued

Texas A&M Aggies Johnny Manziel carries the ball as Alabama Crimson Tide C.J. Mosley and Ed Stinson pursue in their NCAA SEC game in College Station Reuters

Johnny Manziel doesn’t have the arm of Andrew Luck or the size of Cam Newton or the athletic ability of Robert Griffin III. As an NFL prospect, Manziel is far from perfect, and that’s even before we get into the question of whether teams are scared off by some of his off-field activities.

But some NFL team is going to fall in love with Manziel.

Manziel put up absurd numbers in a loss to No. 1 Alabama on Saturday. He completed 28 of 39 passes for 464 yards, with five touchdowns and two interceptions, and added 14 rushing attempts for 98 yards. As Peter King writes at TheMMQB.com today, one NFL scout who was at the game said that there may be some-old school coaches who aren’t ready to buy into the way Manziel plays the quarterback position, but they’re going to have to accept that this is how the quarterback position is played today.

“It’s like Ric Flair once said: ‘You may not like this, but you better learn to love it,’” the scout told King.

As Ric Flair also said, to be the man, you gotta beat the man. And Manziel is gonna be the man for some NFL team next year. There are surely a lot of NFL coaches and general managers who don’t like Manziel, but all it takes is one team that has learned to love him. And when Manziel carves up Nick Saban’s defense, it becomes easy to love him.

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53 Responses to “Manziel is not a perfect prospect, but the NFL is intrigued”
  1. scaredhitless says: Sep 16, 2013 11:41 AM

    The NFL is intrigued, just not the Jags. They prefer mediocre, unexciting play from their QB’s to keep their fan base at home.

  2. cheapglazers says: Sep 16, 2013 11:41 AM

    Good luck being a Buc. You may want to chose baseball for a year like Bo Jackson did!

  3. briansalo1 says: Sep 16, 2013 11:44 AM

    Two Nature Boy references in one article, I approve. Woooo!

  4. bigzant82 says: Sep 16, 2013 11:44 AM

    yess dey mentioned the Browns had scouts there ugh i can speak for ClevelandBrownsNations by saying we dont want ryan leaf 2.0 on our team in 2014 Weeden is decent backup QB im still a fan of his but he’s on audition the rest of the season if he keeps stuggling then bench him and its Jason Campbells show if not then hey another lost horrible season in Cleveland
    dare i say it let the Bridge Too Bridgewater campaign start not the SUCK FOR JOHNNY-FOOTBALL sweepstakes

  5. anonymouslyanonymouscommentor says: Sep 16, 2013 11:44 AM

    The kid is incredible. Anyone who thinks he’s just a running threat has another thing coming. He will be a good QB in the NFL.

  6. 8to80texansblog says: Sep 16, 2013 11:45 AM

    I think if Manziel replicates his 2012 he will be a first rounder. Second at the latest.

    His arm is very underrated as he makes so many throws on the run instead of planting his feet. He made a few throws early in the season where he just rifled the ball. I think he can make all the NFL level throws.

    But as RG3 has learned, its tough sledding for a running QB in the NFL. But wouldn’t Manziel to the Eagles be fun to watch!

    But the question is, when will that timebomb in his head go off? You just know it’s coming.

  7. gbatap says: Sep 16, 2013 11:48 AM

    “old school coaches who aren’t ready to buy into the way Manziel plays the quarterback position, but they’re going to have to accept that this is how the quarterback position is played today.”
    ——————————————————
    Remind me again the last QB, who plays the position the way it “is played today”, who won the SB? Or even how many SBs they’ve made? Or their playoff record?

    See what generalizing does? 7 or 8 out of 32 starting QBs are capable of playing that waay and even those guys are be asked to play more in the pocket because that’s the way the position is played today successfully.

  8. southernpatriots says: Sep 16, 2013 11:53 AM

    Johnny Manziel often reminds me of a man playing among boys. His talent resulted over 500 yards against the #1 college football team in the country. He is by far, the most exciting football player in college football today.

    If TAMU had any kind of defense, they could have stopped Alabama before they put up 35 unanswered points and TAMU would have won he game. It was not a lack of his talent, but was rather the missing defense of his team which kept TAMU from beating the Tide two years in a row.

    Manziel will help his team to win. If he is given an average defense, some capable talent on offense, he will help a team win 3 or 4 extra games or more a year. He will also help fill the stands and sell the jerseys, caps, and other souvenirs.

  9. blacknole08 says: Sep 16, 2013 11:59 AM

    Manziel definitely has a ton of potential. The only thing I see getting in his way is him. Can he get an NFL locker room to follow his lead?

    He has time to mature and his tangibles are through the roof. Kid is an absolute playmaker.

  10. NoobTubeTV says: Sep 16, 2013 12:00 PM

    He is like Tebow… just without Jesus.

  11. fmlizard says: Sep 16, 2013 12:03 PM

    With the 11th pick in the 2014 NFL Draft, the Minnesota Vikings select Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M.

  12. dspyank2k11 says: Sep 16, 2013 12:04 PM

    I think as long as he and his team are winning or playing close tough games none of what hes doing this year in college is going to matter.

    If JP Losman, Tim Tebow, Matt Leinart, Mark Sanchez… etc etc etc… were 1sts. Then Manziel gets a shot for sure.

    If the Jags take him though… It could be bad

  13. bucrightoff says: Sep 16, 2013 12:04 PM

    Manziel is great but people really need to start paying attention to Marcus Mariota. Could be everything Johnny is without the potential headaches.

  14. natigator says: Sep 16, 2013 12:08 PM

    He has moxy on the field, he reminds me of Rothliesberger in that he can constantly make something out of nothing by avoiding the rush and being hard to bring down. Not as big obviously, just the ability to add an extra couple of seconds to the play for somebody to get open.

    He’s got good touch, good release, good arm strength…..if it wasn’t for his off the field antics he’d be a top 10 pick easy.

    The concern of course, is the on field arrogance with the autography signings, money signs etc. Ignoring his coach, also an obvious red flag. His drinking, blowing off the Manning academy is perhaps a bigger red flag. His openly antagonistic relationship to TAMU/College Station is also another concern.

    Some desperate team will make him a first rounder, with a strong coach and team leadership I think he can work out just fine. Unfortunately, teams with weak leadership tend to act out of desperation to save coaches/GMs jobs and that would be the worst possible location for him to go.

    Thinking he will end up in Minnesota, Philly, Arizona, Tennessee, or some other mediocre team picking outside the top 10 with potentially desperate situations for the continued employment of coaches/GMs

  15. justintuckrule says: Sep 16, 2013 12:10 PM

    Here’s my one sentence scouting report that is directly on point. You need not read anything further from any of the draft gurus.

    He’s what Doug Flutie would have been if Doug Flutie played in this era of no defenses, no hitting and penalties after every other play.

  16. thesteelskirt says: Sep 16, 2013 12:16 PM

    Finally a bonding moment for all fans when they throw in a Ric Flair quote on a NFL website. Love it!

  17. 87hollywoodhorn says: Sep 16, 2013 12:16 PM

    looks like dan persa from northwestern, minus the injuries. persa didnt get a shot cuz he wasnt cut out for the nfl. neither is this guy

  18. freshnsoclean says: Sep 16, 2013 12:18 PM

    As a Vikings fan, I hope they go 0-16. With Ponder at QB that’s VERY doable.

    #1 pick & Johnny Football getting to play 2 years in a college stadium.

    Superbowl homeboy

  19. dalcow4 says: Sep 16, 2013 12:23 PM

    Imagine if he was mature…

    He’s a top 5 pick right now.

  20. thepistoloffense says: Sep 16, 2013 12:24 PM

    Johnny Football will become a great sideshow for some NFL team. Year 2 is where Johnny Football will struggle. It’s all explained in my Money Ball Systems for mobile QB

  21. givemethehighgear says: Sep 16, 2013 12:29 PM

    Speaking of Ric Flair, when is ProWrestlingTalk going to launch?

  22. 8to80texansblog says: Sep 16, 2013 12:31 PM

    To be completely honest…. I think Mike Evans gets drafted before Johnny Manziel….

    Mike Evans just torched the unit that Saban coaches himself for 279 yds on 7 catches. At times Evans looked undefendable (is that a word?).

    Mike Evans is a beast. 6’5″ guy who ran a 4.5 in high school. Would be surprised if he wasn’t in the 4.4′s now.

  23. nbcwantsitsmoneyback says: Sep 16, 2013 12:40 PM

    The guy reminds me too much of Tim Tebow and we know how that Heisman trophy winner turned out..!

  24. leejericho says: Sep 16, 2013 12:49 PM

    Doesn’t Johnny have to play 1 more season after this year to enter the draft??

  25. granadafan says: Sep 16, 2013 12:52 PM

    Eric Crouch 2.0

  26. jpk6044 says: Sep 16, 2013 12:52 PM

    Anyone who watched that game knows that Johnny throws the ball up for grabs waaaaaay to much to make it in the NFL, especially with his below-average arm strength.

    Bust in the making.

  27. poridge1214 says: Sep 16, 2013 12:54 PM

    The kid is awesome…..in College Football. He’s very mobile…..facing college defenses. He carved up……a college secondary.

    Let’s relax. Can he make it on the right team? Sure. Will he be a savior as a top selection? Probably not.

  28. losangelesbillsofbuffalo says: Sep 16, 2013 12:56 PM

    I want him to play in the NFL. Only because I’m interested in seeing the likes of Von Miller, JPP, Aldon Smith, Mario Williams, Clay Mathews and JJ Watt come in free off the blindside and absolutely tear into his midsection. That would absolutely Make. My. Day.

  29. doubleogator says: Sep 16, 2013 1:01 PM

    Any way you slice it, it’s a big gamble…

  30. 8to80texansblog says: Sep 16, 2013 1:04 PM

    poridge1214 says:
    Sep 16, 2013 12:54 PM
    The kid is awesome…..in College Football. He’s very mobile…..facing college defenses. He carved up……a college secondary.
    _____________________________

    That’s a dumb analogy… tell me who was the last college QB that carved up NFL defenses???

  31. itsmammoth says: Sep 16, 2013 1:05 PM

    Dallas.
    Cowboys.

  32. thegregwitul says: Sep 16, 2013 1:06 PM

    Johnny Football is a ton of fun to watch, but everytime I see him out there I think to myself that he looks like he’s 17 years old and 175lbs soaking wet. But the kid makes plays. I have no idea how to project him in the NFL, I just hope he keeps his head on straight so that he can keep entertaining me when he eventually goes pro.

  33. 8to80texansblog says: Sep 16, 2013 1:09 PM

    The Tebow and Eric Crouch references are misguided.

    Tebow was a fullback playing QB. Crouch was an option QB that had some pretty blazing speed.

    Manziel is a pocket QB that runs. He has great arm strength, great accuracy, and the chaos factor that drives DCs crazy.

    He’s much more Doug Flutie than Tim Tebow.

    He unfortunately may be be more Ryan Leaf than Tim Tebow as well though.

  34. mangycougar says: Sep 16, 2013 1:12 PM

    Johnny Manziel is the next Jim McMahon.

    Undersized, athletic, has the ability to make something out of nothing, full of attitude.

    Should have a somewhat decent NFL career.

  35. peddealer says: Sep 16, 2013 1:19 PM

    @bucrightoff Even I the biggest Longhorns fan ever, have to admit Manziel is a beast, but your comparison in players is atroxious!
    Let me guess, you work in the front office for some NFL team and we all should listen to your prognostication.
    Anywho, next year is a down crop but time will tell who makes the better pro QB.
    My lone star dollar is on Manziel over your guy, because in Texas we can deal with headaches as long as you produce at an unreal level.
    Witness Saturday.

  36. dylanssongwriter says: Sep 16, 2013 1:27 PM

    The kid is a runt.

  37. 8to80texansblog says: Sep 16, 2013 1:37 PM

    @bucrightoff

    I admit that Mariota is an outstanding player, probably will win a Heisman this year. But he doesn’t have the elusiveness and “make something out of nothing” ability that Manziel has, and what NFL scouts are looking for.

    Mariota runs a read option, and runs it flawlessly. But his rush yards are predicated off of those designed runs. Manziel breaks contain as the pocket collapses and rattles off a 25 yd run after dodging 2 sacks. Mariota is a “running QB” and Manziel is a “QB that runs” if that makes sense at all.

  38. jlinatl says: Sep 16, 2013 1:57 PM

    Really like watching him play. I understand he is from money, but when he has his own… I would be nervous.

  39. mc1439 says: Sep 16, 2013 2:25 PM

    Him and Luck can stroke each other’s ego and caulk but sell it as love for the game because it’s not gay. Not gay at all.

  40. cometkazie says: Sep 16, 2013 2:34 PM

    I think JF and RGIII are good fits for the college game and iffy fits for the NFL.

    The former had his moments last year but now that he is trying to be more “normal” is showing clay feet.

  41. bucrightoff says: Sep 16, 2013 2:47 PM

    @8to80texansblog

    Makes prefect sense and I agree. Manziel is a total wildcard who is very difficult to game plan for because he isn’t someone you can put in box and say “He’s X-type of QB”. He’s a singular player.

  42. dman6015 says: Sep 16, 2013 2:50 PM

    Two words: Tim Tebow.

  43. andyreidsskinnyjeans says: Sep 16, 2013 2:58 PM

    Would love to see him as a jet or cowboy.

  44. vadertime says: Sep 16, 2013 3:11 PM

    Oh, Johnny Football is definitely going to get taken in the first round next year, probably fairly early. Someone, desperate to upgrade their sad QB situation, and their are a handful of teams out there, will draft him and if nothing else will sell more seats at home. Manziel is electric when he plays, but he carrys a ton of baggage with him including that gigantic, oversized ego. It’ll be fun to watch him on some pro team a year from now.

  45. gogatorsjohn says: Sep 16, 2013 3:15 PM

    Johnny football is two years removed from high school. He could go into draft next year. He transferred from Oregon I believe and sat out a year at A&M..

  46. kaptingavrin says: Sep 16, 2013 3:44 PM

    “Anyone who watched that game knows that Johnny throws the ball up for grabs waaaaaay to much to make it in the NFL”

    Brett Favre, anyone? Seriously, he made a career on doing that. But it’s also why his last pass as a player in the NFL – all three times he retired – was an interception.

    Not sure how Manziel’s arm strength will compare, though. (Is that something you could improve with conditioning, I wonder?)

  47. 8to80texansblog says: Sep 16, 2013 3:59 PM

    Jumpball Joe over in Baltimore won a SB doing that and as previously noted, Brett Favre went to the HOF for that.

    And to be honest he threw 1 ill advised jump ball on Saturday. It was completed for a 1st down on 3rd and a mile but I’m sure the A&M coaches got on him for just chucking it up.

    The first INT he threw was a bad route run by the WR as well as great press coverage by the DB.

    The second INT he threw was a back shoulder throw that hit the DB in the back of the head and bounced straight up in the air.

  48. spiller28 says: Sep 16, 2013 4:00 PM

    With the 4th pick in the draft the Oakland Raider’s pick Johnny football and Al Davis has a pulse people!!

  49. justintuckrule says: Sep 16, 2013 4:01 PM

    JF is two years removed from college football when he enters the draft. In another two years, he’ll be removed from pro football as another college QB not suited for the pros.

  50. rajbais says: Sep 16, 2013 4:33 PM

    Red flags, weak arm, and possible future subpar performances.

    He’s a 5th Rounder.

  51. src3084 says: Sep 16, 2013 4:35 PM

    Some team will believe in Manziel and likely be glad they did. He is a special player between the lines. Hopefully, he’ll mature some as far as doing away with the taunting and other nonsense. Playmakers win games and are headaches for def coaches and the QB position doesn’t have to be put in a conventional box. Manziel has some Elway/Russell Wilson magic in him. Wooooooooooo!

  52. ivanpavlov0000 says: Sep 16, 2013 4:48 PM

    I love that you quoted Rick Flair – and Flair is right, “You gotta work the mile to walk the aisle.”

    The highlights I saw of Johnny Manziel vs Alabama. The way he throws the ball up for grabs … I’m happy that he doesn’t play for my team. He can get away with that stuff against college defenses, but he’ll get eaten alive in the NFL.

    He’s an arena league player at best. He lacks talent and intelligence to play in the NFL, and lacks the arm to play in the wide open CFL.

  53. artisan3m says: Sep 16, 2013 5:48 PM

    Manziel is a great talent when his entire package is allowed to perform but if he tries to rely on all of those assets in the NFL, he will get killed. A good example is RGIII. Right now he is a one dimensional pocket passer~ generic quarterback and less than average. Manziel is durable but the college game is in no way comparable to the NFL . I take nothing away from the kid’s raw skills, but he is a showboat and they don’t last very long with the big boys. I wish him well in the big show ~ so does everybody else in the SEC ~ and that right soon.

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