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Mike from Breaking Bad says the Redskins should change their name

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Of all the actors in Breaking Bad, few fit their characters better than Jonathan Banks.

Banks, whom some of you may remember as the guy who got thrown into the buffet at the Harrow Club by Eddie Murphy in Beverly Hills Cop, plays Mike Ehrmantraut in one of the best shows in TV history.  And Banks seems to have the same gruff no-nonsense as the man he portrays.

Without, you know, all the murdering for hire.

Banks is D.C. native and a Redskins fan.  Via Sarah Kogod of the Washington Post, Banks recently shared his views on the team’s name during an interview with Paul F. Thompkins.  Banks brought it up unprompted in the first moments of the sit-down.

We gotta change the name, dude,” Banks says.  “Even if there are two American Indians out there that don’t want to be called Redskins.  We gotta change [it].  Just change the name.”

Banks said the movement to change the name is something that should be happening.

“Somebody’s offended by it, then change it,” Banks said.  “It’s not that big a deal.”

Don’t tell that to Daniel Snyder, who has vowed that he won’t make the change.  Still, count Banks among the many who prefer full measures when it comes to an issue on which more and more people refuse to take never for an answer.

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133 Responses to “Mike from Breaking Bad says the Redskins should change their name”
  1. scaredhitless says: Sep 17, 2013 12:41 PM

    Daniel Snyder has messed up this franchise since he bought it so he’d mess up the name change anyway.

  2. ruvelligwebuike says: Sep 17, 2013 12:41 PM

    This country is messed up.

  3. pooflingingmonkey says: Sep 17, 2013 12:42 PM

    You know Mr. Snyder, sometimes it doesn’t hurt to have someone watching your back.

  4. detectivejimmymcnulty says: Sep 17, 2013 12:42 PM

    Mike says “dude”… whoa.

    It looks like Snyder will have to change the name at some point one way or another. For the record I am 1/32nd Indian, and no, I’m not offended.

  5. green41563 says: Sep 17, 2013 12:42 PM

    There is no clearer indication of America’s fall from grace than its concern with the opinions of celebrities.

  6. jcspiggle says: Sep 17, 2013 12:43 PM

    We don’t gotta change the name, dude.

  7. coolzog says: Sep 17, 2013 12:44 PM

    What about the people who would be offended that they caved to political correctness?

    Everything conceivable offends somebody on this planet.

  8. witchrunner says: Sep 17, 2013 12:44 PM

    Well, Mr. Banks, someone is offended by your opinion. So, please follow your advice and change it!

  9. captainspangled says: Sep 17, 2013 12:46 PM

    “Somebody’s offended by it, then change it,” Banks said. ”

    Lol how pathetic is it that there are people in our society who actually have this philosophy about life.

  10. thermanmerman99 says: Sep 17, 2013 12:46 PM

    i find it quite amusing that every redskins article posted since the season began has not included headlines about the great unstoppable RG3. since he has been terrible and exposed as a fraud that we all knew he would be, all of a sudden this website and every media outlet ignores it, hoping nobody will notice, until he puts together 1 good fluke game, then every headline on this website for an entire week will be about the great unstoppable BOB as the greatest qb who ever lived. who didn’t see this coming.

  11. parasolmonster says: Sep 17, 2013 12:47 PM

    Listen to the man, Snyder. Or else you’ll end up in Belize.

  12. tkebean says: Sep 17, 2013 12:48 PM

    I’m amazed how many people are fooled by breaking bad. The opening couple minutes and closing few minutes of almost every are fantastic but the 35 minutes in the middle of almost every episode is straight junk, just boring drivel. Should have been a half hour per episode.

    The good part about the middle of the episodes being so boring is that they make for good sleep aids.

  13. listenupcupcake says: Sep 17, 2013 12:49 PM

    Suggestion: Warriors.

    Another suggestion: Red Hawks.

    Still another suggestion: WartHogs (or ‘Hogs for short).

    Anti-suggestion: Logical Voices.
    :)

  14. poridge1214 says: Sep 17, 2013 12:49 PM

    I agree completely that the name should be changed for the very reasons he mentioned.

    However, coming from an actor, those views are a bit disingenuous. As an actor in a role, any actor can use the “N” word for instance, and it’s considered part of the “art” of the role, movie or TV show. As if saying it in a movie in proper context takes away from the sting of that word. This actor in particular plays a murderer…well some may find the murder of other human beings to be rather unsavory. But alas, as part of a television show, it’s art and therefore perfectly ok.

  15. doe22us says: Sep 17, 2013 12:50 PM

    And why should we care what he thinks???

  16. dalcow4 says: Sep 17, 2013 12:51 PM

    Wouldn’t bother me at all if the Redskins changed their name. But if we are talking about detriments to society then a show which glorifies drug dealing, robbery, murder is what we should be offended by.

    But we’re not “offended” by such degrading things– we are “offended” at politically correct minor issues.

  17. loyalraven says: Sep 17, 2013 12:52 PM

    The Washington Badknees

  18. fwippel says: Sep 17, 2013 12:53 PM

    Since when do we as Americans have the right to not be offended? If you have the time to be offended by a football team’s mascot, you need to find something else to do.

  19. bigcatdc says: Sep 17, 2013 12:53 PM

    My fantasy basketball team is called Ehrmantraut Jordan in honor of this guy… And as a Skins diehard/lifelong season ticket holder & Washington DC born and bred I am really starting to wonder if this name change thing is actually starting to gain steam or is just manufactured by certain media outlets to fill article space… I can’t imagine a forced name change will happen soon, but if it does, lord knows I hope they come up with a better new name for the Skins than they did for the Bullets. The Wizards?!? C’mon man!!!

  20. wtfchiefs says: Sep 17, 2013 12:54 PM

    Great.

    What about the girl that played that robot on Small Wonder? What does she think about it?

  21. 12seahawks says: Sep 17, 2013 12:56 PM

    Change the name. Sure.

    But don’t pretend that it’s not a big deal.

  22. mataug says: Sep 17, 2013 12:56 PM

    doesn’t matter until Stone Cold said so

  23. sawasta says: Sep 17, 2013 12:58 PM

    That rationale makes no sense. Everyone takes offense to something. Silly.

  24. 1greatusername says: Sep 17, 2013 1:00 PM

    I live in Albuquerque. I find that entire show offensive.

  25. jdphx says: Sep 17, 2013 1:01 PM

    Give it A REST.

  26. abqpacker says: Sep 17, 2013 1:05 PM

    I love Breaking Bad and the character he played, but why do I care what he thinks?

  27. nananatman says: Sep 17, 2013 1:05 PM

    So I guy from a show that popularizes chemical dependence and the manufacture of chemical narcotics thinks something does he. Whoop dee do.

  28. gobuccs1280 says: Sep 17, 2013 1:06 PM

    The new way of our America, if someone is offended by it, we gotta change it. I am offended by a television show that includes an ex-school teacher, turned meth drug lord.

  29. dlr4skins says: Sep 17, 2013 1:07 PM

    I would bet he would say just about anything to keep his name relevant.

    Just trying to hang on, again.

  30. isphet71 says: Sep 17, 2013 1:07 PM

    The real tragedy to this entire situation is that the Washington Racial Slurs could be the heroes of this story. They could say…

    “You know what? Maybe our name does offend some people, and a name doesn’t really matter anyway. Let’s go ahead and change it.

    “But first – go buy up all of the old Redskins logo stuff. It will be a collector’s item some day. Then, buy all of the NEW logo stuff. Because it will be a colelctors’ item some day.

    “Now, submit your Washington Blanks logo and naming ideas. Submissions cost $25. Winner gets credit and 2 free season passes for life. We retain any and all rights of the final logo and nickname selection.”

    The Washington Ruskins could make all kinds of cash, get their fans crazy involved, and be the heroes instead of the villains. Life is about opportunity and they aren’t seizing i. They are sticking their heads in the sand and unwilling to either move or even look around.

    Management fail. Epic.

  31. dlr4skins says: Sep 17, 2013 1:08 PM

    Also, they should of asked him about something important like Syria or the Navy Yard.

  32. dexterismyhero says: Sep 17, 2013 1:09 PM

    I still like the post that said put a potato on the helmet anad keep the Redskins name.

  33. howiefeltersnatch says: Sep 17, 2013 1:10 PM

    ‘So lets go find some feckless liberal celebrity and ask them their thoughts on the Redskins name so they can give us the predicted response and we can then publish it to show the proles that more important Hollywood types are on the right side of such an important issue in our day and age.’

  34. gammynomnom says: Sep 17, 2013 1:12 PM

    What they need to do right now is change the whole team, maybe change their whole sport. It’s more insulting right now for them to be called a football team that it is to be called Redskins.

  35. daveb204 says: Sep 17, 2013 1:13 PM

    It’s funny how some can not recognize that it’s racial slur.
    So much debate about this. If they were called the black skins, with a similar logo, people would be freaking out. But because natives aren’t as prevalent, it’s not so bad???
    Cleveland Indians name and logo is just as bad.

  36. 2jivecrew says: Sep 17, 2013 1:15 PM

    “Is this the man who……..wrrrecked the buffet at the Harrow Club this morning?”.

  37. Mr. Wright 212 says: Sep 17, 2013 1:19 PM

    Someone’s going to be offended by everything that is ever done. Are we going to go around changing everything because they’re offended?

  38. Slim Charles says: Sep 17, 2013 1:19 PM

    What about the people who would be offended that they caved to political correctness?

    —————————————————–

    Yes, because being offended at a racial slur directed at your culture is the same as being offended that they changed the name of the group of people playing a child’s game that you enjoy watching.

  39. God says: Sep 17, 2013 1:21 PM

    I apologize for talking politics on a sports page but hear me out. I used to think that this issue was kind of dumb however, I remembered how horrible the early settlers of this country wiped out millions of native American and forced them to move out of their land. We owe Native Americans BIG TIME as a form of apology.

  40. twilson962 says: Sep 17, 2013 1:23 PM

    Oh, well that pushes things completely over the top. They’ve got to make the change… I mean, that guy from, you know, that show says they should.

  41. blacknole08 says: Sep 17, 2013 1:24 PM

    I find it offensive that our nation cares about any opinion that a celebrity has to offer about anything. They are the quickest to jump on bandwagons on any issue that furthers their agenda.

  42. theuglitruth says: Sep 17, 2013 1:25 PM

    Most team names represent nothing: Arizona Cardinals, Chicago Bears, Dallas Cowboys…meh. None of those name offend anyone. But, the Redskins represents a skin color of race. An American Race, not immigrants, not slaves, but truly born & raised here. They should be respected as part of our American history. Jim Thorpe is the Babe Ruth of Football/Olympic Hero, he’s native American Indian. The Pro Football Hall of Fame has a whole section on Native Americans history & football. I just think they have earned the respect of being heard in a serious conversation.

  43. raiderufan says: Sep 17, 2013 1:25 PM

    tkebean says:
    Sep 17, 2013 12:48 PM
    I’m amazed how many people are fooled by breaking bad. The opening couple minutes and closing few minutes of almost every are fantastic but the 35 minutes in the middle of almost every episode is straight junk, just boring drivel. Should have been a half hour per episode.

    The good part about the middle of the episodes being so boring is that they make for good sleep aids.
    ——————————————

    Fooled? Hardly. Not everyone likes football. Are you fooled by the NFL? Get a grip.

    You don’t like it. That’s ok.

    I do. And you know what? That’s ok.

  44. 49erstim says: Sep 17, 2013 1:25 PM

    I wanna change the name of PFT to the Soapbox Thin-Skins. And I’m gonna post about it everyday until it happens because in 50 years people are gonna say ” why didn’t they change that website’s name sooner. How embarrassing!”. :-p

  45. dalcow4 says: Sep 17, 2013 1:25 PM

    Offended? How about change the name to ‘Washington Meth Lords’?

    No joke– it feels like America is over.

  46. cadillacjosh says: Sep 17, 2013 1:25 PM

    Eventually this will become a large issue, it’s just a matter of time. The smartest thing Snyder could have done, would have been to change it months ago, when the sports writers first starting covering it with more regularity. Snyed could have made a statement about how it’s “culturally insensitive” and then he looks like a hero.

    The longer this presses on the more it becomes a question of “Why does he want to hang on to a team name that is indeed culturally offensive to some that consider the word to be a true slur?” And that’s not a question he can save face on.

  47. footballfan01 says: Sep 17, 2013 1:25 PM

    Oh wow, an actor with an opinion about something controversial that he doesn’t actually know anything about. Everyone should perk up and pay attention, because this man’s clearly has all the answers.

  48. mulehead70 says: Sep 17, 2013 1:26 PM

    Walter White demands an explanation.

  49. humbleminded85 says: Sep 17, 2013 1:28 PM

    Mike your best course of action would be to tread lightly.

  50. mrbigass says: Sep 17, 2013 1:29 PM

    So I guess the Indians, Braves and Chiefs need to change as well. I’m pretty sure we can find two people who find those names offensive so let the whining begin……

  51. 1standinches says: Sep 17, 2013 1:34 PM

    Im offended that you claim to be a Redskins fan and yet you want the name changed. You’re not a true fan buddy find someone else to root for.

  52. bleedgreen33 says: Sep 17, 2013 1:35 PM

    Wow. I USED to like Breaking Bad.

  53. breakingb says: Sep 17, 2013 1:35 PM

    Daniel Snyder is the one who knocks!

  54. draftazoid says: Sep 17, 2013 1:36 PM

    What about the Vikings, who are rapists and pillagers? I guess that’s a good name.

  55. iceburgskin202 says: Sep 17, 2013 1:37 PM

    So you call them American “Indians” that’s offensive people!!!! They are Americans not from India!!! INDIAN is the original slur!!!

  56. kolbe213 says: Sep 17, 2013 1:37 PM

    Jesters everywhere.

  57. whatjusthapped says: Sep 17, 2013 1:38 PM

    Our biggest problem is that we have people that go thru life looking to be offended, at the slightest inference, at the drop of a hat, just so they can get the panties in a pinch and complain about the injustice of it all.

    Take a very recent court case where the Atheists wanted the US government to remove all coins from circulation with the inscription, “in God we trust” because they argued that in using the coins, they were promoting religion. Novel angle but still pure nonsense.

    Anybody who really finds the use of Redskins to be insulting are totally free to move to another country where American football is not covered. Problem solved.

  58. 1rockyracoon says: Sep 17, 2013 1:42 PM

    Snyder’s To Do List:
    1) Change offensive/racist/outdated name of team.
    2) Fire head coach and Junior before they run franchise quarterback into the ground.

  59. noqrtrgvn says: Sep 17, 2013 1:42 PM

    Jonathan Banks needs to get a replacement filter for his Hoover…….

  60. delmonte55 says: Sep 17, 2013 1:45 PM

    Wow what an insightful article! I have changed my entire point of view on this issue, because an actor told me so.

  61. NoWearMan says: Sep 17, 2013 1:45 PM

    1- native americans dont have red skin. The ‘black skin’ comparison doesnt apply.
    2- i live around fairly good sized native populations and i have NEVER heard this word brought up in conversation except in regards to the NFL.
    3- ‘mike from breaking bad’? REALLY??

  62. souldogdave says: Sep 17, 2013 1:46 PM

    Anyone who is offended doesn’t get it. The name is a tribute, meant to intimidate the opponent. If they change it, call them the Washington Indians. The Stanford Indians were my team when I grew up in Palo Alto (before James Franko lol). The T-shirts were so cool, just like indian-head nickels were cool. I am a son of the southwest, of Navajo heritage. There are so many things that offend me, but the football team is DEFINETELY not one of them. I daresay those that protest the loudest have some vested interest if only publicity.

  63. skippernuts says: Sep 17, 2013 1:46 PM

    Well this totally changes my mind on the topic. This is the kind of posts I come to PFT to read!

  64. rexryanstoecheese says: Sep 17, 2013 1:47 PM

    What about the KC Chefs?

    I’m sure there are thousands of gourmet cooks out there offended by the their name…

  65. infectorman says: Sep 17, 2013 1:49 PM

    I’m Irish and I would love it if the Milwaukee Brewers changed their name the “Micks”.

    Milwaukee Micks….got a nice ring to it…

  66. bertilfox says: Sep 17, 2013 1:50 PM

    While we are all at it, I am offended that the Celtics and Fighting Irish are caricaturing all Irish Americans as ruffians or leprechauns. Please change these hideous offenses before I am unable to call myself an American. But don’t change the name to “The Americans” because I don’t want to be compared to a Nation of hapless victims, consigned to be forever defined by others and unable to take any responsibility for our own lives. Whew…Glad we cleared this up!

  67. mnsmith20 says: Sep 17, 2013 1:54 PM

    “An actor thinks the Redskins should change their name”.

    Now that’s hard-hitting. I fail to see why this is news.

  68. jsbrasha says: Sep 17, 2013 1:54 PM

    Also, this isn’t going away, folks.

    Dan, change them to Washington Warriors while you can still come out of this looking like the good guy and pretending it was your idea. Keep the logo, etc.

  69. bleedgreen says: Sep 17, 2013 1:55 PM

    iceburgskin202 says:
    Sep 17, 2013 1:37 PM
    So you call them American “Indians” that’s offensive people!!!! They are Americans not from India!!! INDIAN is the original slur!!!
    —————-

    I came to say this. Though not in that tone. The ‘proper’ PC term is ‘Native American’. They are not Indian at all.

  70. redskinswarrior777 says: Sep 17, 2013 1:56 PM

    A). A team selects a team mascot from images (past or present) derived from cultural references. In this case of Native Americans as warriors who once graced the land and created fear in settler and pioneers. Yes, Redskins is a warrior reference. To think someone (even someone who didn’t like African Americans/blacks/colored…depending on the era) would name a team that is meant to get on the field and inspire fans and teammates with a racist term is merely using semantics to create a stir, get attention, create a fallacy… Does anyone really believe that Americans, Washingtonians and football fans from the 1930’s really hated Native Americans so much they’d brand a team with a negative stereotype that was meant to inflame the masses and remind Americans that they were superior to the indigenous culture of North America? Would such a franchise even be semi-successful, let alone one of the historical football franchises in the NFL?

    B). The media enjoys political correctness, and they enjoy controlling the thoughts of ordinary Americans. Start using some basic logic skills, and see through the nonsense of creating this “uproar” over a football team’s logo and team name. Are people in an uproar over the usage of Spartans? The Spartans were a city-state of Greece, full of men who threw weak babies off cliffs. The name is meant to inspire the positive traits of the Spartan name, which is the warrior aspect, or mindset, which we’d all like to believe (especially Kellon Winslow) is a part of sports. These are the modern day gladiator games, and yet we’re worried that a name taken out of context and be contorted to be a slanderous namesake for a branded football team? This is an attempt to turn public appeal against a franchise that has won court cases against a minority within a minority and turn America’s guilt complex upon itself again. The usage of Spartans is just one of MANY cases of using a warrior’s image to represent a sports team’s logo/mascot/team name.

    C). Native Americans have been polled and are not offended. Do some research. Anyone can turn any poll into whatever they want, obviously, but it is still something for consideration. Why? Because many Native American sports teams still use this “dated” image of the Native American warrior. Why, not because it’s offensive, but instead because it is inspiring.

    D). Anytime “thought police” are involved, it is a scary concept. Debates are needed. Understanding is cultivated, but there is a time when enough is enough and the attempt to filibuster will turn against those attempting to sway public opinion. This “offensive” name has been sued over before, and lost. The protests, no matter how small, are nothing new. People, no matter how few or great in number, will be offended by a name or sport or whatever. How many folks call MMA barbaric? Football barbaric? Boxing barbaric? Contact sports, barbaric? The list goes on and on.

    These are just a few points that could be expanded and argued into the ground. Shame on PFT, Peter King and all those media bobble heads to attempting to shame Dan Synder through name calling and ridicule. It is a charlatans game, one that has been used to cause hatred between people, rather than attempting to balance out the arguments with the occasional article or editorial on why the Redskins name is not racist. Nope. It’s easier to throw stones, mock, make fun of, belittle, degrade and inflame for clicks on their links in order to make more money for themselves.

    Shame shame shame. Feel free to pick apart, and needlessly antagonize. It’s why the internet was developed, right?

  71. 12seahawks says: Sep 17, 2013 1:56 PM

    “So I guess the Indians, Braves and Chiefs need to change as well”

    Nope, Braves and Chiefs is just fine, but Indians is culturally offensive. Native Americans is the preferred nomenclature. (the local baseball team in my town is the Spokane Indians.) But no one gives a crap about baseball.

  72. charger383 says: Sep 17, 2013 1:57 PM

    If they change it, I will be offended by whatever they change it to.

  73. ahs2 says: Sep 17, 2013 1:58 PM

    a hollywood type that ends his opinion in “dude”…wow, just reeks of credibility!!

  74. sbchampsagain says: Sep 17, 2013 2:01 PM

    0-2 record for the Slurs.

    #racistmascotkarma

  75. mcmeen0576 says: Sep 17, 2013 2:02 PM

    No more half measures

  76. sactogary says: Sep 17, 2013 2:02 PM

    With all the turmoil that the banks have inflicted on our country, I think Mr. Banks should change his name. No big deal, dude, just change it.

  77. darkneptune73 says: Sep 17, 2013 2:06 PM

    In the history of the controversy, have they asked the Native Americans if they’re offended? My god, they’re the ones the name is supposedly offending.

  78. hdf21 says: Sep 17, 2013 2:07 PM

    People want to change an offensive name directed at one of the most persecuted groups in America’s history.

    We are surely going to pc hell.

  79. 1jwbucs says: Sep 17, 2013 2:21 PM

    Mike from Breaking Bad needs to get a LIFE! There is no wrong doing here and no one is offended… The only folks harping are the same a-holes who always have a beef, but contribute ZERO towards society as a whole. The Native Americans are not complaining… therefore, leave well enough alone! Daniel Snyder did not select the iconic Redskins name, nor was he founder of this particular NFL franchise… He made a business decision to purchase a Sports Franchise that already had branding in place.

  80. dmretrogames says: Sep 17, 2013 2:25 PM

    Thanks for checking in, “Mike from Breaking Bad”. PETA members are offended by the name “Packers”. Should they change that one, too?

  81. Dogsweat says: Sep 17, 2013 2:37 PM

    Washington Reddogs 2015.

  82. facetious0ne says: Sep 17, 2013 2:38 PM

    All I see if a bunch of white people complaining about it.. I live in the Midwest where the Sioux Indians are prevalent, and I’ve even spoke on this issue with some of the guys I played football with a few years back (I’m 27).. None care nor have ever heard the term “Redskin” being used in a derogatory manner. My issue here is, If you inevitably get them to change the name, Where does it stop? Cowboys could be found offensive by the same group of people we are trying to defend here.

  83. therealbleedcoltsblue says: Sep 17, 2013 2:41 PM

    Ok.. calling a Native American a ‘Redskin’ is bad… but calling them an American Indian is ok.

    #openmouthinsertfoot

    He was awesome in breaking bad AND Beverly Hills cop, though.

  84. dwatkins69 says: Sep 17, 2013 2:45 PM

    Also are Native Americans offended by these PC people intimating that they have red skin? I would think that is far more disturbing to them?

  85. papichulo55 says: Sep 17, 2013 2:47 PM

    Mr. Synder could donate just a small percentage of his merchandising income to help complete the Crazy Horse Memorial.

  86. listenupcupcake says: Sep 17, 2013 2:48 PM

    rexryan… sez
    What about the KC Chefs?

    Subtle change, Andy; we barely noticed. ;)

  87. relggigeht says: Sep 17, 2013 2:54 PM

    I am Native American and am deeply offended by the name and the helmet logo. Change it.

  88. eagles512 says: Sep 17, 2013 2:55 PM

    Will you post articles on the higher % of people that don’t think they should change it?

  89. MyTeamsAllStink says: Sep 17, 2013 3:01 PM

    Just a question.If the Redskins were consistently winning would the name be that big of an issue?If they were defending champions would there still be an uproar?Maybe its because they’ve sucked for the last decade and a half the Native American population is more embarrassed than angry

  90. redskinswarrior777 says: Sep 17, 2013 3:05 PM

    facetious0ne says: Sep 17, 2013 2:38 PM

    All I see if a bunch of white people complaining about it.. I live in the Midwest where the Sioux Indians are prevalent, and I’ve even spoke on this issue with some of the guys I played football with a few years back (I’m 27).. None care nor have ever heard the term “Redskin” being used in a derogatory manner. My issue here is, If you inevitably get them to change the name, Where does it stop? Cowboys could be found offensive by the same group of people we are trying to defend here.

    ================================

    Ironically, the owner who started the Dallas Cowboys wanted to purchase the Washington Redskins and felt slighted by then owner Marshall. He apparently (not Marshall) owned the rights to the Hail to the Redskins song, and when the Cowboys owner came to start the team in Dallas, Marshall voted against it… but changed his mind when the two struck a deal (in exchange for the song rights)… so yes, the name Cowboys was meant to provoke the same imagery as the name Redskins, and rivals were born… they moved the teams into the same division to ensure they played each other… I only have Wiki as the source for this information, but it is quite interesting… change one name, then you start looking for who is next… and yes, there is always a next… if mankind has a weakness, it is that mankind can’t get enough out of hating someone else for no other reason than they disagree… at misery of one another… at bringing down one another… even on PFT, they post how many days since an NFLer was arrested… it’s a joke to this site, and many other media pundits… we, fans, seek information about our teams, and the media preaches while we read.. reminds me of a new way of sending a message.. to spread a way of thinking…hmm…

  91. harrisonhits2 says: Sep 17, 2013 3:08 PM

    Slim Charles says:

    Yes, because being offended at a racial slur directed at your culture is the same as being offended that they changed the name of the group of people playing a child’s game that you enjoy watching.
    ____________________

    Trying to bring logic and/or facts to the PFT comments Charles ?

    Lol good luck with that.

  92. dannyreneau says: Sep 17, 2013 3:10 PM

    My grandmother is full blooded Cherokee. She didn’t like the name. I don’t like the name.

    There’s your two people. This is 2013 folks, the name needs to go. No amount of complaining about political correctness changes the fact that this is a racist name.

  93. finfan4lyfe says: Sep 17, 2013 3:11 PM

    BTW, I’m also Indian, Cherokee and Blackfoot. I love the redskin helmet, not a dern thing wrong with it. Just hogwash that you all keep bringing up this spewtum trust me, that’s all it is, Americans and Indians know it too, you look so much like a puppet….

  94. trollaikman8 says: Sep 17, 2013 3:11 PM

    Washington Wounded Knees.

  95. thelastpieceofcheese says: Sep 17, 2013 3:12 PM

    Hey Mike from Breaking Bad , FYI, there is little piece of paper called the US Constitution, which contains a 1st amendment that gives me freedom to call my team whatever I want.

    This right was upheld by a landmark 2009 U.S. Supreme Court decision.

  96. raiderufan says: Sep 17, 2013 3:13 PM

    whatjusthapped says:
    Sep 17, 2013 1:38 PM
    Our biggest problem is that we have people that go thru life looking to be offended, at the slightest inference, at the drop of a hat, just so they can get the panties in a pinch and complain about the injustice of it all.

    Take a very recent court case where the Atheists wanted the US government to remove all coins from circulation with the inscription, “in God we trust” because they argued that in using the coins, they were promoting religion. Novel angle but still pure nonsense.

    Anybody who really finds the use of Redskins to be insulting are totally free to move to another country where American football is not covered. Problem solved.

    Good job putting the atheist part in there for the thumbs up.

    The truth is that, yes, to many people look to get offended over nothing. That doesn’t negate the fact that somethings are offensive. I’ve argued alot on here that people are to uptight and I don’t see an awful lot of native americans picking up this fight but that doesn’t mean they don’t have a right to be. Or that they should leave this country because they’re offended. That’s sort of the opposite of what America was founded on….alot like “in god we trust”.

  97. deweyaxewound says: Sep 17, 2013 3:14 PM

    You mean a Hollywood actor is taking the liberal PC zealot point of view?

    And trying to impose their own myopic, intolerant worldview on the rest of us?

    Frankly, I’m shocked.

  98. pftstory says: Sep 17, 2013 3:16 PM

    Is this website going to post a list of the celebrities that don’t give a hoot about the team name or the ones that think it should stay the same?
    Married to a Native American. Her family doesn’t care about the Redskins name and some even root for the Cowboys. (who share a name with a group that slaughtered their ancestors.)
    They are from OK and choose the Cowboys not the Chiefs.

  99. trapshoot says: Sep 17, 2013 3:18 PM

    Not sure what he knows about football, but he sure played a great part in Breaking Bad.

  100. bigalhebdman says: Sep 17, 2013 3:19 PM

    Washington DC historically has the worst names in sports.
    1. The Washington Wizards, really? They couldn’t do better than that for a basketball team??
    2. The Washington Nationals, whose nickname is now the knats? What could be more insignicant and strike fear into your opponents than being a “knat”. Of course, their former baseball team was the Senators. That struck fear into folks.
    3. Now after 80 years, they’re finally seeing that the redskins are racially offensive. Give me a break!

  101. anicra says: Sep 17, 2013 3:20 PM

    deweyaxewound So true.

  102. stoney18 says: Sep 17, 2013 3:20 PM

    Whoever wants to change the name of the team should buy it from Dan Snyder. It is his personal property. You don’t like it. Quit whining! BUY THE TEAM YOURSELF AND CHANGE THE NAME!

  103. rcali says: Sep 17, 2013 4:01 PM

    Considering the stuff on tv, it wouldn’t exist if we had to get rid of every show/channel that offends people. Typical Hollywood crack. They’re all the same in this town.

  104. 49erstim says: Sep 17, 2013 4:22 PM

    Says the actor on the show that glorifies the entire drug culture.

  105. mediasloppy says: Sep 17, 2013 4:33 PM

    I’m so tired of the nanny state bull-crap I read from people saying the name is perfectly fine and if it offends you, too dam bad.

    You’re the same people who can’t compromise and make the USA a better place. Please rant at a wall or something.

    The name is gonna change eventually…

  106. cherrybop says: Sep 17, 2013 4:53 PM

    The comment sections here are the worst, especially when it comes to issues like this. I’m quarter-native, my mom is half-native, and we both think that name is really offensive and that Dan Snyder is a hypocritical bigot. I’m truly starting to understand why so many Washington fans hate their team”s owner.

  107. cherrybop says: Sep 17, 2013 4:55 PM

    And it gets lame after a while to see all the complaints from people who obviously benefit from the concept of “white privilege”. Grow up, boys.

  108. atthemurph says: Sep 17, 2013 5:08 PM

    One offended person gets the trump vote? When the hell did this country turn into one controlled by the biggest whiner? God help us.

  109. steaderic says: Sep 17, 2013 5:30 PM

    Posted by Mike Florio on September 17, 2013, 12:38 PM EDT

    “Still, count Banks among the many who prefer full measures when it comes to an issue on which more and more people refuse to take never for an answer.”

    Ok, done. We have the 22 that showed up at Lambeau on Sunday. Add Florio and Peter King. The former Raiders exec. What do we have?

    25

  110. drsous74 says: Sep 17, 2013 6:48 PM

    my only question is, if you PC POLICE finally get your way and the name is changed, what are you people gonna get offended by and cry about next ?

    DAN SNYDER owns the team. it’s his personal property and he can call it whatever he wants. the term REDSKIN is not illegal.

    anyone that thinks the name is going to change because of the so called “offended”, I think there are 90,000 strong that fill that stadium for every home game, and MILLIONS more that watch them every week, that would say otherwise !!!!!

  111. kissingsuzyssister says: Sep 17, 2013 7:20 PM

    Conceptually I have to question to thought process of those who determine a name is racist because the name has “skin” as an attribute.

    Seriously.

    I am more and more certain this is an attack on Dan Snyder, and less on the Redskins name. Dan has a history of attacking the media, so they attack back through vague forms of tangent slander.

    This whole issue would be a non-issue if the media loved the Redskins owner, or at least respected the Redskins owner. These sports writers realize the power of journalism, and pretend to care. They do not care at all for Native Americans, their culture or the issue. They care about attacking Dan Snyder.

    In between Dan Snyder and these media pundits are the fans and a few folks who hate what they believe the Redskins name represents. To them it represents a bygone time, when Native Americans were pushed west and off their lands. Lied to, cheated, used and defeated by a combination the use of human nature (greed), illness, warfare, and other (the list is long, but much like most issues, the issue of the Native American culture being essentially swallowed by the American culture stands, otherwise we’d not even be here debating the name of an American football team).

    I am a Washington Redskins fan. I have been for over 30 years. I have native American blood, though it’s a small percentage, but I can trace it back to relatives who originated in the Pacific South West. I find this whole issue a non issue because I see through the guise of what Florio and others are doing.

    Attacking Dan Synder. They can’t beat him in a direct assault, so they use a rather vast network of media outlets and platforms to attack fans and loyal followers of a team with some sordid history, but also a history of glory (from earlier years and many championships, to Superbowls to the Norv Turner decade and years of futility that have weighed heavily on a loyal fanbase).

    I’m sick and tired of having these pundits and media jackholes telling me what is right and what is wrong. Are they the moral authority? They certainly push an agenda, like a rogue minister who finds bits and pieces of the Bible to tell their followers what is right and what is wrong.

    And too many of you agree, because it is easier to point a finger at the big bad name callers and tell them they’re bad people, then think “What does the name Redskin represent?”.

    It represents a warrior. A battle tested man who would fight and scare the enemy just on their mythos.

    Along came the Cowboys, and they turned the whole thing in to a show. Seriously. If the Redskins existed without the Cowboys to remind us of the concept of “Cowboys and Indians”, the Redskins wouldn’t be as inflammatory. The Chiefs aren’t being questioned. Why? Oh, that’s right, it doesn’t say “Red Chiefs”, or Chief Skins or whatever, so therefore it is less racist.

    None of it is racist. These are names that have historically meant tough, strong, warrior. Not racists. And many of those who claim it is racists are likely as bothered by the concept that some Native Americans were a warrior culture, based on blood and fighting.

    But back to the attacks by the media. Folks, it’s a show to get you and I flustered, but its meant to attack one man. Dan Snyder. A billionaire fan of the Redskins who has some ruthless tendencies that made him rich. A somewhat thin skinned man who didn’t like being attacked, because he’d fought for so long to get where he was at, and attacked for living the dream so many fans had as children. To own a football, to own the team they followed. For godsake, he played fantasy football with real players before it was in vogue by the rest of us.

    Hate him, or love him, the name Redskins is in the media because of him and his “never” comment. These are a bunch of little men pretending to care, and using a cause for their own jabs. Pathetic little men who get in twitter arguments with semi-professional football team mascots. These men are bigger jokes, because their original thoughts are really just stolen thoughts from others. None of these men have a creative bone left, but instead attempt to make their own money on the backs of those who may truly be offended.

    Lame.

  112. revskip says: Sep 17, 2013 8:31 PM

    kissingsuzyssister says:

    Stuff

    ————————————————————-

    At least if nothing else the daily updates on the team from Washington with the racist name have finally gotten Dan Synder to create a profile on PFT and release a nice long press release.

  113. kisstherings says: Sep 17, 2013 9:38 PM

    Who cares what Banks thinks…

  114. thestrategyexpert says: Sep 17, 2013 9:57 PM

    He has such a way with words that he is also nominated for an Emmy. Thanks for chiming in Mr. Banks!

  115. uncletuna says: Sep 17, 2013 10:31 PM

    Jonathan Banks should take his cable check and shut his pie-hole…

    I’m an American Indian, so is my brother and we don’t want it changed…

    So that’s two for you…

    When this country gets to the point that Hollywood knows what’s best for this country’s policies, then stick a fork in us…

  116. flipola says: Sep 17, 2013 11:14 PM

    Grow thicker skin. If there were teams called Washington Whities, Houston Honkies, or Carolina Crackers, I’d be their #1 fan.

  117. gtrdonald says: Sep 18, 2013 1:40 AM

    What a lot of people always seem to ignore or fail to realize that is that the team was ORIGINALLY CALLED THE BRAVES. The current team name isn’t the original, so citing tradition or anything of that sort is null and void.

  118. johnnyoclock says: Sep 18, 2013 8:52 AM

    Oh well now that does it, I’m sold.

    If this is what’s left, consider the matter closed.

    And again, it’s the modern racism: Using race and exploitation for personal gain. This guy here is doing just that, both looking for his name in a headline, and looking for street cred with the hollywood elites.

    That’s all this guy is, yet another racial user.

    And if he keeps it up, he’ll get himself an Emmy wether he deserves it or not.

  119. facetooth says: Sep 18, 2013 2:18 PM

    People who are offended by Breaking Bad for its violence could make an equally compelling case as to why that show shouldn’t be aired. I doubt AMC gives a hoot.

    Who cares what this goober has to say? As far as I’m concerned, hes a hypocrite.

  120. nygrwy says: Sep 18, 2013 2:49 PM

    Thats the problem with Americans these days. Everyone is offended by something

  121. musicman495 says: Sep 18, 2013 11:13 PM

    I understand Miley Cyrus has also demanded that the Redskins change their name, and she will no longer use her foam finger until they do.

  122. dsmithlaw13 says: Sep 19, 2013 12:33 AM

    Touche Florio on the Breaking Bad tip of the hat with the “full measure” comment.

  123. defscottyb says: Sep 19, 2013 2:42 AM

    This just in… that girl who played Punky Brewster is offended too, change the name pronto.

  124. NoRespect says: Sep 19, 2013 7:56 AM

    From an article on ESPN:
    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9689220/redskins-name-change-not-easy-sounds

    …the athletes at Wellpinit (Wash.) High School — where the student body is 91.2 percent Native American — that the “Redskins” name they wear proudly across their chests is insulting them. Because they have no idea.

  125. vikesindividual says: Sep 19, 2013 2:33 PM

    OH NO!!!!! NOT MIKE FROM BREAKING BAD!!!!! WHATEVER WILL WE DO???!!!! I care about his opinions. GREATLY.

  126. warhammer420 says: Sep 19, 2013 5:09 PM

    Whenever I’m facing a crisis, I just take a step back and ask… what would Mike from Breaking Bad do?

  127. Deb says: Sep 19, 2013 7:12 PM

    Have no dog in this hunt. But if I were against changing my team’s name, it wouldn’t matter if James Dean came back from the great beyond to try and sway me. Most people think for themselves.

  128. musicman495 says: Sep 19, 2013 9:09 PM

    How interesting that Rick Reilly from ESPN says he is against the name change, and talks to many Native Americans who agree with him, and all we hear from the sports media is crickets – no stories, no comment, nada.

  129. leevi98 says: Sep 19, 2013 9:11 PM

    Yeah its that simple…just change the name..who cares about the 100s of millions it would cost to do so and all the money chain stores and private owned stores would lose for paid merchandise. After it’s been the name since 1932 with a trademark….Yeah it’s a real simple thing to do

  130. bigblackanvil says: Sep 20, 2013 8:08 AM

    I’m offended by the names Johnson, Jefferson, Williams,and many others. I am a black man and these are the names of the people that enslaved my ancestors. These names where then forced upon my people and to this day we still carry the names of our oppressors. I could go on but the point I’m making is if we start with the word Redskin and say we must change it then where does it stop? If they are pressured into changing the name then I will be the first one in court to file my petition to have all the aforementioned names ( and many more) struck down because they offend me. HTTR

  131. blutbaddenbill says: Sep 21, 2013 2:03 PM

    I am hurt when I hear the name Oklahoma cause it means red man in an indian language.I am offended that crackers are called crackers.I Am offended that mr banks made many movies which glorifies violence death and a tv series that glorified the mafia and selling drugs.bottom line,so what? everybody is offended by something and most of the time,we learn to live with it!

  132. mogreenz says: Sep 22, 2013 11:48 PM

    Drop the “R-word” or Mr. Snyder ends up in Costa Rica.

  133. tvguy22 says: Sep 23, 2013 9:27 AM

    Oh, well if HE thinks so, then that should be the end of the discussion…

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