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PFT Live: Steelers talk with Ed Bouchette, Coaching hot seat

Mike Tomlin, Todd Haley AP

The Steelers are 0-2 and no one in Pittsburgh is happy about it.

Ed Bouchette of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette will join Mike Florio on Wednesday’s PFT Live to discuss the reasons for the unhappiness. One they’ll be sure to discuss is Bouchette’s report about wide receiver Antonio Brown’s displeasure about the amount of balls being thrown his way, one of several things that has gone wrong for the offense on the way to just 19 points in two games.

Florio will also take his weekly look at the coaches who might be looking at a change in employment if things don’t start going their way this season. He’ll also have looks at some of the other big stories around the league heading into Week Three.

You can watch it all live at noon ET by clicking right here.

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33 Responses to “PFT Live: Steelers talk with Ed Bouchette, Coaching hot seat”
  1. smuggs1 says: Sep 18, 2013 11:48 AM

    It really is amazing how pedestrian the Steelers look when their players get old and they lose some…maybe it was the players all along..tomline should be on the hot seat for letting them fall this far

  2. dadindebt6 says: Sep 18, 2013 11:51 AM

    Hey Antonio! Get seperation at the line, run a good route, and get open. Then maybe the ball will come your way!

  3. myspaceyourface says: Sep 18, 2013 11:56 AM

    Tomlin won a SB with Bill’s roster.

    They have drafted more t.u.r.d.’s in the last 5 years and agreed to more bad contracts than any time prior

    I think the G.M. and Head coach need to go.

    I’m tired of Tomlins dumb blank stare when things go wrong and his rah rah catch phrases in the pressers after.

    CLEAN HOUSE top to bottom and speed up the rebuild process.

  4. olcap says: Sep 18, 2013 11:58 AM

    Whatever you do anyone, remember to NOT point out in any way that Mike Tomlin, since he is a minority coach who HAPPENS to work for the author of the Rooney Rule, will get special treatment which includes, at a minimum, extra time than any other coach who is not a minority would get to show he is a real SUPER coach.

    If you do, you’ll be labeled a racist by the nitwits who can’t form a cogent thought in their pea brains.

  5. dadindebt6 says: Sep 18, 2013 11:59 AM

    smuggs

    Coaching and talent evaluation are definitely problems.

    Keith Urbik was drafted a few years back. He was cut but has been a starter in Buffalo for a couple of years. If they could have made him successful in Pittsburgh, they could have saved a draft pick for a different position.

    Having Spence miss the last two years hurts a lot.

    Not having a quick hit passing game that involves the running backs makes the poor play of the offensive line look even worse.

    Running up the middle all the time is getting frustrating.

    So yeah, Tomlin should be on the hot seat. But at this point, it should only be a warning that if this year doesn’t turn around, next year will be a do or die season.

    Any coach deserves more than one season to get the program righted.

  6. lemonhead7 says: Sep 18, 2013 12:01 PM

    I really don’t think it’s personnel. Everyone talks about how “old” the Steelers are, but every team has veteran players. Although, some more than others. The veterans are on defense, which seems to be doing their part and playing pretty well. I also don’t think it’s so much the play calling, as the players don’t seem to want to play for Todd Haley. The offensive line is a disaster, and losing Pouncey for the year was devastating.

  7. relggigeht says: Sep 18, 2013 12:07 PM

    “Whatever you do anyone, remember to NOT point out in any way that Mike Tomlin, since he is a minority coach who HAPPENS to work for the author of the Rooney Rule, will get special treatment which includes, at a minimum, extra time than any other coach who is not a minority would get to show he is a real SUPER coach.

    If you do, you’ll be labeled a racist by the nitwits who can’t form a cogent thought in their pea brains.”

    You’re the only one that seems to be concerned with Tomlin’s color. You’re also obnoxious.

  8. pooflingingmonkey says: Sep 18, 2013 12:12 PM

    Every team has to start rebuilding at some point, and now’s the time for Pittsburgh. Big Ben looks broken down, no running game, below average receivers, a poor O-line. All they have anymore are a few good players on defense, otherwise this team is a train wreck.

    I think the Browns have more potential at this point than do the Steelers. Next year, Cleveland will be better, but I’m not so sure about Pittsburgh?

  9. bobzilla1001 says: Sep 18, 2013 12:18 PM

    Tomlin, deservedly so, will be given ample time to coach his way out of this mess. The problem is, he probably won’t deliver.
    The players on the O-line, especially Mike Adams and Marcus Gilbert, are terrible. The quarterback is on his last Steelers contract, and Antonio Brown is dumber than a box of rocks. Heath Miller may or may not fully recover, and Ta’veon Bell may or may not be the answer as a feature back.
    Tomlin played his starting tailback (Redman) on special teams on Monday night, which led to an early injury. How many coaches play their starting RB on special teams?
    Against the Titans, Tomlin activated Will Johnson while having just five O-linemen available. Johnson, by the way, never played a down in that loss.
    Tomlin makes too bizarre personnel decisions to expect him to lead this franchise back to prominence.
    Ed Bouchette, of course, would never, ever say a discouraging word about a football team he needs to fully cooperate in order for him to have a job.

  10. steelers24019 says: Sep 18, 2013 12:22 PM

    myspaceyourface says:
    Sep 18, 2013 11:56 AM
    Tomlin won a SB with Bill’s roster.

    They have drafted more t.u.r.d.’s in the last 5 years and agreed to more bad contracts than any time prior

    I think the G.M. and Head coach need to go.

    I’m tired of Tomlins dumb blank stare when things go wrong and his rah rah catch phrases in the pressers after.

    CLEAN HOUSE top to bottom and speed up the rebuild process.
    ___________________________________
    Do you mean Bill’s roster that went 8-8 in his last year? I bet you wanted to get rid of Bruce Arians a couple years ago also

  11. steelerfanjo says: Sep 18, 2013 12:26 PM

    It is so easy to fix. Fire Haley. Play your best players and if these babies are halfway hurt – tell them to play or cut em.

  12. londonbengal says: Sep 18, 2013 12:31 PM

    myspaceyourface says: Sep 18, 2013 11:56 AM

    Tomlin won a SB with Bill’s roster. They have drafted more t.u.r.d.’s in the last 5 years and agreed to more bad contracts than any time prior
    I think the G.M. and Head coach need to go. I’m tired of Tomlins dumb blank stare when things go wrong and his rah rah catch phrases in the pressers after.

    CLEAN HOUSE top to bottom and speed up the rebuild process.
    ================================
    As certain posters on here keep reminding us the Steelers are the most successful team in NFL history, right ?

    They’ve had, what, 4 head coaches in 40 years for a reason. Steeler fans, if you want to be as successful as the Browns over recent decades, change your HC as often as your under-shorts.

    This particular Bengal fan would love to see Tomlin fired, and the Steelers ‘re-build’ again. You have a better chance of winning with continuity folks.

  13. FoozieGrooler says: Sep 18, 2013 12:38 PM

    Fire Haley and fire Tomlin, and not necessarily in that order…
    Haley never had control of this team and Tomlin lost it.

  14. mmmpierogi says: Sep 18, 2013 12:39 PM

    smuggs1 says:
    Sep 18, 2013 11:48 AM
    It really is amazing how pedestrian the Steelers look when their players get old …

    ****************************************************************

    News flash: Steelers’ roster this year is younger than both teams who played for the SB last year and a non-negligible chunk of other teams who were in the playoffs. Age isn’t the problem.

  15. bobzilla1001 says: Sep 18, 2013 12:43 PM

    steelers24019:
    That’s right, Tomlin was handed a pathetic 8-8 team in 2007. Never mind that that same team was 15-1 in 2004 and a Super Bowl winner in 2005. And, YES, I wanted Bruce Arians fired in 2009, when the defending Super Bowl, Tomlin-coached Steelers lost, 13-6, to the 1-11 Browns in a must-win situation…
    Arians’ offenses were putrid, starting with the 2008 season. Remember that 11-10 win against the Chargers that season? No one noticed because the Steelers WON with DEFENSE.
    Winning made you casual fans blinded to just how awful both Arians and Roethlisberger were together. That’s the reason Arians is no longer in Pittsburgh…

  16. stillers213 says: Sep 18, 2013 12:53 PM

    I think I will wait on all of the “sky is falling” garbage until at least week six. Let’s be real for a second – it’s not like the AFCN is a powerhouse.
    I don’t think Tomlin is a bad coach or leader, but his personnel decisions are questionable at best. I could not believe the 53 man roster he put out there to start this season. Also, when your veteran talent level drops as it has recently, you need to adjust accordingly and play your top rookies much more. The only 2 “splash” plays they had were both by rooks! (Moye and Jones)

  17. stillers213 says: Sep 18, 2013 12:57 PM

    Those Steeler fans calling for Tomlin’s head already are either bandwagoners or too young to know anything about how this organization handles the HC position. Even a Bengal fan above from London knows this.

  18. dagrizzman says: Sep 18, 2013 12:59 PM

    It’s real easy to see the team is not content,and that Tomlin has lost them.Tomlin is a fool for believing in Haley who should be fired after the Bears game.Tomlin has been exposed,he is now all mouth and no show.What do they teach these guys at practice ? He had all pre season, mini camps,lost 4 games there,and now the first 2 going on 3 of the regular season.Don’t gimme that stuff about Pouncey, he’s been hurt many times,and these guys just don’t want to play for this staff,period ! A high school team can block better than his over priced beef.What a shame, we waited 25 years from Bradshaw to get Ben and they tie his hands and let him get mugged out there.Can you tell I’m pizzed ???

  19. steelcurtainn says: Sep 18, 2013 12:59 PM

    The Steelers need to get Wheaton on the field immediately. The passing game will be much improved with him and Miller on the field. They have to find a way to be able to run the ball with this offensive line. Oh and please for the sake of the offense quit running end arounds with Cotchery, its not going to work. At least put your fastest receiver out there. How can Tomlin and Haley not see that?

  20. koenig61 says: Sep 18, 2013 1:02 PM

    You can always count on Bobzilla, with his disparaging comments about Tomlin, Haley, Ben etc. Facts are facts. Cowher, went 8-8 in his final year, so don’t tell me Tomlin won with Cowhers players. Cowher DIDNT WIN with Cowhers players. I think it says more that a new coach could come in, and motivate and rally the team around his way of doing things and go to 2 SB’s. Cowher had many bad seasons with the Steelers, but we look back with such fond memories that we have blinders on to the fact the Rooneys gave him a very long leash. The Rooneys will give Tomlin that very same long leash. Last season before Ben went down in the KC game, the O was going very well under Haley. Changing coordinators or coaches isn’t going to fix this problem. Both starting TE out, Defensive captain gone, Pouncey gone, Starting CB out, Lost #1 receiver, lost starting CB, no true #1 RB, until Bell comes back, but even when he and Miller come back, it’s not going to fix everything. Steeler fans expect excellence year in and year out, and when they don’t get its time to jump on the Fire everyone bandwagon. THANK GOD the Rooneys don’t have knee jerk reactions like this. It’s one thing to be a Monday morning QB and talk about what ifs. I have no problem with steeler fans having their opinions, but at least have an open mind, about what the coaches are trying to do, and i can guarantee you none of those coaches you so badly want fired aren’t trying their best to correct these mistakes. take away that awful tripping penalty, Paulsons fumble and Clark blowing coverage on that 67 yard pass, and the Steelrs more than likely win this game. You harp about Redman on Special teams, but the Steelers have done that for years, Santonio Holmes, and Brown just 2 recent examples. And while we are at it, Brown had a huge return against the Bengals, and if he had gotten 1 more block, he takes it to the house. Continue with your glass half empty vision, but I’ll trust in the Rooneys.

  21. jmacb says: Sep 18, 2013 1:05 PM

    Tomlin’s not on the bubble. The Steelers are a stable club. Knoll had some bad years and so did Cohwer. Both of those men, and the master of all Xs and Os himslef, Bill Belicheck, would struggle with the team Tomlin has. The problem is upstairs. The team has not drafted well, and not made good personel decisions in general. Cap hell sucks.

  22. jeffa43 says: Sep 18, 2013 1:06 PM

    Steeler were old a few years ago…

    The O-line is all 2nd and third year players. Top Two wide outs are in their 4th season. Rookie rb…

    How is this a old team?

    Troy & Clark are still very good, and Miller is one of the best… Those are your old players.

    Steelers avg age 26.5 ….. Some in the media need to do their homework… Young and inexperienced line is more like it.

  23. bigbensucks says: Sep 18, 2013 1:20 PM

    Maybe you should hire Jon Gruden as HC. He could not stop talking about how great big butt Ben and the Stoolers were……….even as the were stinking up the joint.

  24. bobzilla1001 says: Sep 18, 2013 1:20 PM

    Koenig:
    To save myself from a massive headache, I didn’t read your entire post. But were you out of the country in 2004 and 2005? Do you actually believe that following that 8-8 season in 2006, the Steelers went out and got a completely different team, one not built and coached by Cowher?
    Your argument that Cowher didn’t win with Cowher’s players is stale, inaccurate and not worthy of my time to educate you on Cowher’s 161-99-1 career record.

  25. koenig61 says: Sep 18, 2013 1:53 PM

    You just answered your own Question Bobzilla, when your brought up Cowhers record. The Rooneys allow their coaches to have an off season. While I’m not a Steeler fan, i see every game as i live here. I remember several down seasons when cowher wasnt winning, and lots of people said he cant get over the hump, he gets to the AFC championship game, and he loses. The Rooneys had faith. Imagine if he had been fired after one of those bad seasons. And no I dont think they went out and got a whole new teams, but assistant coaches and offensive co-ordinators were changed, and the starting lineups were not the exact same lineup all of those years. And while we are on the subject of players, most of the players are selected by the GM, and not by Cowher,or Tomlin. They have input, but thats as far as it goes, they dont have full power on the selections. Obiosuly you are bitter that the team is having an off year. It happens, it happens to most teams. Hell my team is perrenial loser. Appreciate what you have in the Rooneys.

  26. Deb says: Sep 18, 2013 2:34 PM

    Hey, guys …

    Couldn’t get here to see Bouchette at noon, but just clicked the link and got E.J. Manuel. Can you please tee-up the Bouchette interview??

  27. dickroy says: Sep 18, 2013 3:15 PM

    The Steelers are trying to find ways to protect Ben. They finally addressed the offensive line after years of neglect. It remains to be seen if these linemen will come together and become a good solid unit.
    I hate to think we could easily start out at 0-3, but this year it looks possible. It may take some time but my Steelers will get it fixed. I have faith in the organization.

    @Deb
    Good to hear from you on here. Always enjoy your comments.

  28. enoughofthatalready says: Sep 18, 2013 4:09 PM

    Steelers could easily start 0-4 going into the bye.

  29. vinseyes50 says: Sep 18, 2013 4:36 PM

    After seeing the worse Steeler Team in over 10 years I keep asking myself what is the problem….Listen, three years ago our offense moved the ball against everyone. WE put so much on that fact that we needed to run the ball. WE fire Bruce and hire Haley. Well since Haley came we still cant run the ball and our passing game is almost as terrible as our running attack….Get Haley out…I never wanted that fool here. He was terrible in Kansas City were they could not wait to see him leave and we beat his offense in the SB……Why did we go in this direction. they keep saying how Ben had a good couple of games before he got hurt. We did not put up big scores in that period. Ben did not like him from the beginning and the owner should listen to his franchise QB…..

  30. bobzilla1001 says: Sep 18, 2013 4:50 PM

    koenig:
    I’m pretty sure I said Tomlin will be given ample time to coach his way out of this mess. Reading comprehension problem?
    Cowher pumped life into a dormant franchise. He had his teams in the hunt nearly every season. After watching the 1980s, Cowher’s “near misses” were a welcome sight after a decade of mediocrity.
    Please don’t lecture me on how to be a fan. As a fan, it is my right to criticize. I’m not here to protect Tomlin, or to hype SuperBen, or to talk about Super Bowl trophies, or insult other fan bases, or to pretend that everything is wonderful. I’m here to talk Steelers football … like I mean it.

  31. bobzilla1001 says: Sep 18, 2013 4:58 PM

    vinseyes50:
    Super Bowl 43: Haley’s Cardinals offense 23, Arians Steelers offense 20.
    Haley’s offense competed against the No. 1 defense in the league, while Arians’ offense went against the worst defensive team in Super Bowl history, one that gave up 49 TDs in the 2008 regular season.
    The great thing about being a fan is that zero knowledge is required.

  32. Deb says: Sep 18, 2013 6:10 PM

    @dickroy …

    Thanks. Sorry you had tickets to such a frustrating game Monday night. I’m afraid we’re in for a frustrating season … probably more than one. Band-Aid measures could allow us to have a couple of respectable seasons going forward. But I’m afraid the only long-term solution is thorough rebuilding.

    As long as Ben’s our QB, we have to simplify that offense and go back to something closer to what Arians was running. I’ve realized now that Ben won’t change, so the offense has to revolve around him. Besides, there’s no point sticking to a run-based offense when we don’t have the running talent. We should have drafted Eddie Lacy. And we need to abandon the zone-blocking scheme. If we make those changes, we may be able to keep from completely imploding in the short-term … but I’m not optimistic.

  33. dickroy says: Sep 19, 2013 7:16 AM

    @Deb

    Thanks Deb. It was frustrating, and also I was with a bunch of Bengal fans from work. You can imagine how that went!

    I agree with you on your assessment of our season this year. Its hard to go through, but we will be back.

    Love the Black & Gold!

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