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Banner says Colts were talking to at least one other team

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The Browns and Colts finalized on Wednesday a trade that sent running back Trent Richardson to Indianapolis.  And the Colts apparently were talking to at least one other team about filling the void at tailback.

Appearing on Thursday’s PFT Live, Browns CEO Joe Banner explained that the negotiations between the Browns and Colts launched on Tuesday, spurred by the season-ending injury to Indy running back Vick Ballard.  Banner said that the Browns hadn’t put Richardson on the block and had no desire to trade him before the opportunity arose with the Colts.

Indeed, the Browns had said last week that the planned to give Richardson even more touches.  (He went from 15 in Week One to 23 in Week Two.)

The trade talks, aided by the relationship Banner has with Colts G.M. Ryan Grigson (who worked with Banner in Philly), resulted in the usual back-and-forth offers and counteroffers until a deal was struck.

Though the Colts apparently were exploring other options, Banner said he never got the impression that the Colts were close to pulling the trigger with another team.

The full interview is being transcribed, and the segment will be pasted in the Rumor Mill when it’s ready.  Until then, click the box on the right rail to see all of Thursday’s show, which also included Tony Grossi of ESPNCleveland.com calling the move the most polarizing player transaction in Cleveland since former coach Bill Belichick cut quarterback Bernie Kosar.

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  1. thegreatgabbert says: Sep 19, 2013 1:27 PM

    Jones-Drew, likely.

  2. maddenisfordorks says: Sep 19, 2013 1:27 PM

    Jones Drew?

    The Jags are looking to add picks – as they need to put a QB who functions in their ranks.

    But as it looks right now, my Jags will have the first pick anyway.

  3. r8dernation says: Sep 19, 2013 1:28 PM

    I bet the other back was McFadden.

  4. westampa says: Sep 19, 2013 1:30 PM

    I wouldn’t be surprised if it was Tampa for Peyton Hillis. He isn’t anywhere near the RB that Richardson is, but would have been useful for Colts. Tampa has a crowded backfield behind Martin.

  5. jjthesportsguy says: Sep 19, 2013 1:32 PM

    I really don’t know how you would feel if you’re Joe Thomas at this point. I mean the money is nice, but never competing for a championship much less the playoffs has to get annoying.

    It’s shocking to me that a 27 year old rookie QB isn’t working out….NOT. Time to rebuild the rebuild.

  6. raiderlyfe510 says: Sep 19, 2013 1:34 PM

    Pretty sure they were trying to snatch McFadden up. Glad Lombardi was there to jump in front of that. I would have been pissed.

  7. drunkadamschefter says: Sep 19, 2013 1:37 PM

    I heard the Browns are considering trading away Alex Mack and/or Joe Thomas as well and completely blowing this thing up,

  8. bestbitter says: Sep 19, 2013 1:37 PM

    Colts wanted AlMo.

    Redskins wanted their 1st rounder.

  9. seatownballers says: Sep 19, 2013 1:38 PM

    So if Richardson is worth a first rounder, what is weeden worth? A ham sandwich and 7th rounder in 2018?

  10. dybzinski10 says: Sep 19, 2013 1:40 PM

    Don’t you mean most polarizing move since hiring Lombardi?

  11. puhleezho says: Sep 19, 2013 1:42 PM

    Seattle would make the most sense to me.

  12. puhleezho says: Sep 19, 2013 1:45 PM

    Joe Thomas to broncos is next

  13. mnrunleft says: Sep 19, 2013 1:45 PM

    Ryan Mathews is another posibility, seems like he’d be a good fit in that offense.

  14. logicaldawg says: Sep 19, 2013 1:46 PM

    Tony Grossi loves to see his name in print. This trade doesn’t come close to cutting Bernie, which he only mentioned because he has a vendetta against Mike Lombardi, who was instrumental in that transaction as well. Bernie is a local, was and always will be lionized in Cleveland. Richardson had barely started his career and many would say that a 15-25 pick in the first round for him is quite fair value, given his injury history and lack of breakout production as of yet. Bernie was special. Richardson is a commodity. We’ll just find another RB to play in this pass first league. I liked the guy but they aren’t going anywhere until they establish a marquee QB on the team and give him someone to throw to.

  15. kobuffalo says: Sep 19, 2013 1:46 PM

    Bernard Pierce from Balt or Ben Tate from Houston, maybe. Both are #1 RBs on most other teams and would have cost less than a #1. Especially Tate, as I believe he is a FA next season. Only sticking point is that both guys they play behind are battling injuries.

  16. kobuffalo says: Sep 19, 2013 1:49 PM

    Seattle? Not sure who you mean, puhleezho. Who in their right mind trades for Turbin? They are NOT moving Lynch. Michael too unproven. Splain, please.

  17. rsh1023 says: Sep 19, 2013 1:49 PM

    jjthesportsguy says:

    It’s shocking to me that a 27 year old rookie QB isn’t working out….NOT. Time to rebuild the rebuild.

    That’s the reason why the Browns made this trade. The last regime took Weeden, the current one did not. They never like him. They know they need a franchise QB before they are ever going to be relevant. Trading T-Rich 1. assures they lose more games and get a higher pick 2. gives them another pick to trade up with or use on a QB

    Richardson is a good player, but by the time the Browns find a QB, the law of averages state he will be on the back nine of his career. You don’t take RB’s in the first round of the draft. That was the mistake of Holmgren/Heckert. You take QB’s, DL/OL & CB’s

  18. Dogsweat says: Sep 19, 2013 1:50 PM

    Lynch.

  19. rsh1023 says: Sep 19, 2013 1:51 PM

    Seattle gave up a 4th and 5th rounder for Marshawn Lynch

    Indy gave up a 1st for Richardson

    Did the Brown really get fleeced?

  20. wipackman1265 says: Sep 19, 2013 1:53 PM

    They will not trade Joe Thomas

  21. ejautomatic says: Sep 19, 2013 1:53 PM

    Rumors in Buffalo yesterday before this all went down was they were talking to the Bills. Idk about who but I would assume it was for Fred Jackson. I think Spiller would be untouchable in Buffalo, I couldn’t see then trading him unless it was for two first and a second. But you never know….

  22. puhleezho says: Sep 19, 2013 1:56 PM

    Turbin or Michael are both quality starting running backs in the NFL in my opinion. Could mix either in with bradshaw and bring them along.

  23. mcmeen0576 says: Sep 19, 2013 2:01 PM

    David Wilson in New York?

  24. 52lightsxout52 says: Sep 19, 2013 2:07 PM

    … Tony Grossi of ESPNCleveland.com calling the move the most polarizing player transaction in Cleveland since former coach Bill Belichick cut quarterback Bernie Kosar.

    ___________________________________

    No way. Lebron begs to differ…

  25. deadlevelbest says: Sep 19, 2013 2:09 PM

    I also heard the Fred Jackson rumor.

  26. pfic15 says: Sep 19, 2013 2:09 PM

    I just wish it would’ve been Ingram. So tired of him down south….

  27. scaredhitless says: Sep 19, 2013 2:09 PM

    So let me get this straight, the Browns traded Richardson the 3rd pick in his draft for a 21-29th pick in 2014.

    Meanwhile, the Jets traded Revis (a $16 million per year drama queen coming off an ACL inury) the 14th pick in his draft for a 13th pick in 2013.

    John Idzik > Michael Lombardi

  28. eatitfanboy says: Sep 19, 2013 2:10 PM

    Willis McGahee averaged almost a full yard per carry more than Richardson, and 10 yards per game more on less carries.

    I’m not saying McGahee is better than Richardson, but one guy was available off the street for the veteran’s minimum, the other one cost you a first round draft pick.

    Not sure the Colts made the best decision here.

  29. blantoncollier says: Sep 19, 2013 2:16 PM

    Cant believe one thing Joe Banner says–the guy would sell ice to a Eskimo if he could.

    As for Lombardi—the guy is the only GM in any major league sport that wont speak on the record to the media.

  30. richiebburg says: Sep 19, 2013 2:24 PM

    The Colts should go after Justin Blackmon next

  31. peytonsneck18 says: Sep 19, 2013 2:28 PM

    Seattle gave up a 4th and 5th rounder for Marshawn Lynch

    Indy gave up a 1st for Richardson

    Did the Brown really get fleeced?

    Lynch had a bad reputation and got in some trouble , thats why buffalo traded him for next to nothing

  32. tjacks7 says: Sep 19, 2013 2:39 PM

    I just want to know what the Browns want for Joe Haden.

  33. sickoe47 says: Sep 19, 2013 2:39 PM

    Reggie would of been a genius if he pulled of traded mcfadden to indy for a 1st rounder or at least a second.he dosen’t have commitment to mcfadden and by the way he sounded in his last interview with reporters in the bay area he had no plans of bringing back mcfadden.

  34. tjacks7 says: Sep 19, 2013 2:40 PM

    mnrunleft says:

    Ryan Mathews is another posibility, seems like he’d be a good fit in that offense.

    —–

    If you like running backs that are always hurt or fumbling the ball.

  35. tjacks7 says: Sep 19, 2013 2:42 PM

    If the NFL wants to make it more exciting for the fans, they should show trade offers, who’s on the trade block, and what the team wants as compensation.

  36. shanaenae99 says: Sep 19, 2013 2:42 PM

    I was thinking Ben Tate

  37. raiderlyfe510 says: Sep 19, 2013 2:44 PM

    scaredhitless says:
    Sep 19, 2013 2:09 PM
    So let me get this straight, the Browns traded Richardson the 3rd pick in his draft for a 21-29th pick in 2014.

    Meanwhile, the Jets traded Revis (a $16 million per year drama queen coming off an ACL inury) the 14th pick in his draft for a 13th pick in 2013.

    John Idzik > Michael Lombardi
    ———————————————-
    Burger King Janitor > Mike Lombardi

  38. ballboy48 says: Sep 19, 2013 2:48 PM

    I’m not so sure the Browns got fleeced at all, on this transaction. Has anyone actually looked at Indy’s schedule? It’s not particularly an easy one. They have the NFC west and AFC west, plus CIN, HOU twice, Tennessee twice. They barely beat the Raiders.

  39. mrsmell says: Sep 19, 2013 2:53 PM

    Willis McGahee averaged almost a full yard per carry more than Richardson, and 10 yards per game more on less carries.
    ……………………………………………………………………………….
    Its not easy to get running stats when your team is constantly playing catch-up. Willis played on some great teams with very good OLs. Even in Buf, he had a line better than Cle has now.
    If you take Trent and put him on the Broncos last year, I say he could have put up some very respectful numbers.

  40. tennesseeoilers says: Sep 19, 2013 2:57 PM

    Notice how noone thinks the Browns wanted Chris Johnson?

    Exactly.

  41. matthewgloudemans says: Sep 19, 2013 3:00 PM

    What is the point of even drafting players if you never plan on playing them?

  42. radrntn says: Sep 19, 2013 3:09 PM

    So let me get this straight, the Browns traded Richardson the 3rd pick in his draft for a 21-29th pick in 2014.

    - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - –

    21st to 29th pick eh…really with the 26th ranked defense……might be more like a teen pick worse case scenario

  43. varnbo says: Sep 19, 2013 3:15 PM

    Being a fan of the Browns is like being in a bad marriage. I grew up in NE OH, and I can’t stop rooting for them, though I wish I could.

    If you’ve watched the Browns first 2 games you(why would you)would know that T-Rich runs incredibly hard, and is almost always hit in the backfield. I don’t know what has happened to that o-line, but they are terrible, as no back outside of AP would have had any measurable success.

    Their is no threat of a credible passing game as well. Trading a stud 22 yoa RB for a late first rounder to supposedly position yourself to draft a as of yet unknown college QB when everyone knows you’ll be picking 1 or 2 anyway just defies common sense. Plus you’ve got to find a starting RB.

  44. macbull says: Sep 19, 2013 3:16 PM

    Tony Grossi of ESPNCleveland.com calling the move the most polarizing player transaction in Cleveland since former coach Bill Belichick cut quarterback Bernie Kosar.

    ………………………………………………….

    Tony Grossi is right…the big difference, Kosar was toward the end of his career and Trent Richardson is just beginning his.

    Joe Banner has never been in charge of the football side of any football franchise before now…and it’s one screw up after another…

    …Banner not using all our draft picks to build the needed depth at key positions.

    …Banner pushing Phil Dawson out the door without even offering him a contract…the 49ers, who are trying to win a Super Bowl jumped all over Dawson, while Joe Banner could not make his mind about a kicker, signing Billy Cundiff just 4 days before the Browns first regular season game.

    …just this week, before Richardson…it was announced that the Browns #3 QB would start against the Vikings this week instead of our #2 QB, veteran Jason Campbell.

    Why would any team that is trying to win football games do such a thing?

    …the answer…Banner and Haslam lied to the Browns fans about building the team to win THIS YEAR.

    Now, on top of all this, Banner deals Richardson to the Colts, who gladly scoop him up, because the Colts management is trying to win THIS YEAR.

    And just where is the Browns owner, Jimmy Haslam…in hiding, no where to be found.

    Haslam hire Banner the bean counter, knowing he had never been in charge of the football side of any football team, in his lifetime.

    Haslam is no better than Banner when it comes to being honest with the fans…as both lied like hell about their intentions of build the Browns into a winner this year.

    Browns fans will have to be satisfied with watching our ex Browns, Phil Dawson and Trent Richardson, helping their teams win a playoff birth, knowing that is as close as the Browns will get to the playoffs this year…thanks to Banner and Haslam.

    Just what the hell did Browns fans do to deserve this management?

  45. seldom1 says: Sep 19, 2013 3:48 PM

    Finally we have a kick-ass management team that will clean out the mistakes and ordinary players despite the petty, arrogant and unprofessional “news” media Cleveland has been saddled with since Belichick pissed off Grossi.

    Finally it appears the Browns truly are back!

  46. noring4youstill says: Sep 19, 2013 3:50 PM

    They can still have Ingram for a pair of suite tickets to the Indy 500

  47. eatitfanboy says: Sep 19, 2013 3:51 PM

    mrsmell says:
    Sep 19, 2013 2:53 PM
    Willis McGahee averaged almost a full yard per carry more than Richardson, and 10 yards per game more on less carries.
    ……………………………………………………………………………….
    Its not easy to get running stats when your team is constantly playing catch-up. Willis played on some great teams with very good OLs. Even in Buf, he had a line better than Cle has now.
    If you take Trent and put him on the Broncos last year, I say he could have put up some very respectful numbers.
    =====

    I agree. That’s why I pointed out that I wasn’t saying McGahee was better.

    But a first round draft pick is a pretty stiff price to pay for a guy who can’t even average 4 yards per carry unless he’s behind a great line.

    An undrafted free agent can get 4 yards per carry behind a great offensive line.

  48. kwjsb says: Sep 19, 2013 3:58 PM

    Who didn’t see this coming, Lombardi said he would have never drafted Richardson or Weeden. Before the season started we needed at least 1 guard, a full back and a receiver with the ability to create separation and yes, catch the ball. Aside from Bess, they completely ignored the offense, Vonta Leach was released, no offer, Vickers was released, no offer, there are full backs not on rosters now and we moved a small RB to full back. They purposely sabotaged the offense to insure they would not succeed with these players. When your $30mil. under the cap, you could get a guard instead of converting a marginal tackle, you could get a fullback instead of converting an undrafted RB.
    Jimmy Haslam, you may “OWN” the Browns, but this is “MY”team. My grandfather, My Father, Myself and My sons.. You could have fielded a competitive team, but YOUR front office are to worried about, their guys, thier system instead of WINS. And believe me, we have heard it all before, Savage, Davis, Mangini, H&H, and now these CLOWNS.
    Winning is about today, and all we get is promises for tomorrow. You have an opportunity to be competitive NOW, but like everyone who preceded you, you allow them to blow it all up.

  49. chillyball says: Sep 19, 2013 4:12 PM

    I hope it was Minnesota. AD should go somewhere where there is a better chance at winning a championship. Lord knows it is not going to happen with Christian I Only Look At One Receiver Ponder or Leslie Frazier.

    Smartest man in the NFL: Percy Harvin.

    Skol.

  50. browns627 says: Sep 19, 2013 4:14 PM

    trent cant catch or block..browns got the better

  51. EJ says: Sep 19, 2013 4:17 PM

    I guarantee that the Colts were in talks with the Bills for Freddy Jackson. The thing is, Jackson is worth more to Buffalo than a first round pick in the teens. He’s actually worth more like a 1st 2nd and 4th round pick. He is just too damn valuable to let go of. Did anyone see his clock management drop against Carolina? A great football play. Jackson is a between the Tackles runner who will get those few extra tough yards, can get you with his fluid running style or run right over you with a mean stiff-arm. He is hands down the best pass-protecting runner in the league, makes wise decisions and has a knack for getting open on passing plays. Spiller is lucky to have Jackson as his relief back and the Bills are wise to keep him on the roster.

  52. dat504 says: Sep 19, 2013 4:52 PM

    The Saints tried to trade Mark Ingram for a 6 pack of cold Milwaukee Best, but the Colts wouldn’t budge from 1 warm Bud Light

  53. securb2013 says: Sep 19, 2013 5:01 PM

    Dear, Jeff Ireland

    Can you grab Joe Thomas while the Browns are having the fire sale.

    Signed
    Dolphins Nation

  54. harrycanyon says: Sep 19, 2013 5:09 PM

    Nice to see the management for the Browns believes in doing off season business, during the season. This trade helps the Colts out, but does nothing for the Browns this year. You have to at least give the illusion you arn’t throwing in the towel. Hoyer starting is bad enough. Dumping the RB you need more, now that the QB situation is even worse.
    Season ticket holders should do whatever it takes to try and recoup some of their wasted money.

  55. richiejf says: Sep 19, 2013 5:56 PM

    So, now that the Browns are without a starting running back and are into silly trades, what would they give us for Ingram? Late round? Red Lobster gift card? ’86 Ford Escort? I’m pretty sure we’re entertaining all offers.

  56. zenrooster says: Sep 19, 2013 6:14 PM

    wipackman1265 says:
    Sep 19, 2013 1:53 PM
    They will not trade Joe Thomas
    ——

    Correction. They ‘should’ not trade Joe Thomas.

    Should – coz its the Browns!

  57. thetooloftools says: Sep 19, 2013 6:41 PM

    Banner is the G.M. too. Don’t kid yourself. He doesn’t seem to have met a microphone he doesn’t like.

  58. dcapettini says: Sep 19, 2013 7:08 PM

    Of course Indy tried to make Banner think that they were talking to another team. That is how you negotiate: you make the other side think that you have other options so they will come down to their best deal. Banner must be an idiot. Who else would give up what is essentially a third for a twenty something pick?

  59. 12444uggg says: Sep 19, 2013 7:27 PM

    So, is anyone interested in Banner lying to everyone about who initiated this trade? How would he know what he Colts front office was doing besides dealing with him?

  60. timdavis697 says: Sep 19, 2013 7:30 PM

    You clearly don’t know anything about player value no runningback is worth 2 first rounders and a second c.j. spiller not even close. Maybe Aaron Rodgers.

  61. cmdrsmooth says: Sep 19, 2013 9:16 PM

    Peterson?

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