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Anticipated defensive stand never comes for Giants

Justin Tuck AP

The Giants gained 150 yards and allowed seven sacks of quarterback Eli Manning.

But the offense was far from the only problem, as a defense they were expecting to count on leaked for 38 points in an embarrassing loss to the Panthers.

“We still gave up 17 points in the first half and weren’t able to stop any of the bleeding in the second half,” defensive end Justin Tuck said, via Ralph Vacchiano of the New York Daily News. “I’ve always been taught on defense it doesn’t really matter what the offense does. If you have yardage to stand by, you’ve got to stand. The years we had success as a team are the years when the offense is not playing their best, the defense picks them up and makes a play, gets the momentum swung.”

That swing never materialized Sunday, and the reaction of the Giants is one of disbelief, as if the kind of rally that saved them from an 0-2 start in 2007 was coming any moment.

“I thought we could at least be competitive,” defensive tackle Cullen Jenkins said. “This is rough, that we could play like that. You expect better.”

At this point, the thing that needs fixing as much as the Giants would be our expectations of them.

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21 Responses to “Anticipated defensive stand never comes for Giants”
  1. wrongsizeglass says: Sep 23, 2013 9:12 AM

    An “anticipated defensive stand”? How about a reasonably expected “stand” by the offensive line?

    The Giants need to fix their O-Line, the turnovers, the time of possession … and better hope their punter stays healthy.

  2. ccjcsr says: Sep 23, 2013 9:40 AM

    Can’t just show up and win anymore!

    #CowboysNation

  3. rcampore says: Sep 23, 2013 9:42 AM

    The defense can only do so much when the Offense is completely inept.

    But the one big glaring problem is the defensive line can get absolutely no penetration. The QBs have all the time in the world to find an open guy and after a while, someone will always get open.

    The trenches are old and slow and that just spells disaster for this season going forward. Top that with the complete lack of a running game and Eli ducking for his life and this will be a very long season.

    I will love my Giants forever, but this is a sad start to the season.

  4. peterawrhatred says: Sep 23, 2013 9:43 AM

    NFC east is by far the worst division, not one team that belongs in the playoffs

  5. paulsmith107 says: Sep 23, 2013 9:53 AM

    A few things as far as no teams deserve to be in the playoffs Dallas looks pretty good and is playing better than the 49ers. The other is watching the giants game it is evident changes need to happen. Jerry Reese hasn’t drafted well and has allowed too much talent to walk without replacing it. Tom coughlin’s words aren’t being heard anymore ie this team had quit. When a team gets its doors blown off like that it isn’t lack of talent it’s lack of will, manhood and pride. Next week is kc in kc I don’t think the giants can beat them and if they don’t tom has to go so does Jerry Reese

  6. richndc says: Sep 23, 2013 10:09 AM

    Thus the implosion begins. This team had a rough start a few years ago–the squabbling began, calls for Coughlin’s head, you have 2-3 players publicly whining–late in the season they got spanked by the Falcons 34-0, then laid another egg against the Ravens–players were yelling at each other, remember? No, you dont because they won the Super Bowl that year–now, we will see–disgraceful actions at a furious rate–I for one will love it. Eli won’t be considered so elite when he has no running game and no dominant defense. He may even set a new season record for pick sixes.

  7. nonetruerthanblue says: Sep 23, 2013 10:15 AM

    Anyone that knows anything about football, knows that this issue falls with leadership…on and off the field.

    Eli, Eli, Eli…I wanted you to get angry just a little bit instead of hanging your head down. Get some fire under the offense. In all fairness, you’ve never been that kind of leader…just would’ve been nice for you to get on your guys and inspire some will!

    Tuck is a relic. There is no defensive leader. Not one. Giants haven’t had a real defensive leader since Strahan left. Tuck could lead, but only if his play backed it up. And he just flat out stinks right now and has for a bit.

    Now onto management…

    Kevin Kill-drive and Perry Fewell need to go. And unfortunately, if that means Coughlin has to go, then so be it. Kill-drive is so predictable. Any Giant fan at home watching the game can tell what play is coming next. Fewell’s defensive packages lack any ounce of creativity.

    Reese…In Reese we trust, but it is not happening right now. Knew we had issues at linebacker and secondary and barely made a dent with fresh, young talent.

    I will always stay loyal to Blue because I’m a real fan and won’t bandwagon when my team is down…Giants need leadership right now. Not leadership with talk, but leadership making gritty plays on the field.

    It’s about pride now.

  8. n0hopeleft says: Sep 23, 2013 10:15 AM

    peterawrhatred says:
    Sep 23, 2013 9:43 AM
    NFC east is by far the worst division, not one team that belongs in the playoffs

    __________________________________

    You probably said the same thing about the Seahawks two years ago.

    What happened to New Orleans that year, genius?

    It’s still week 3, and you’re talking about who belongs? It’s not even October yet.

  9. tpistolis says: Sep 23, 2013 10:34 AM

    How about you give some love to the team that was far more prepared to play Sunday? The Panthers aren’t getting any love for this lopsided victory…. Its more like Eli needs help, the GMEN dropped the ball!

  10. sidepull says: Sep 23, 2013 10:52 AM

    Welcome to the basement bigblue wherever you are at.

  11. patslaya says: Sep 23, 2013 11:06 AM

    Jadeveon Clowney? That’s what the Giants are playing for now. The OL is really bad, the DL can’t break through a wet paper bag, the LB’s…are there any LB’s on this team? I’ve never been a fan of Fewell or Gilbride and I think that both of them need to go. Eli can’t play from his back and the the RB’s can’t do anything if the line can’t open holes for them. With Hynoski hurt again I can’t even imagine how bad the running game is going to get. They should just hand the ball over to Curtis Painter now before Eli gets hurt. Maybe they can trade Nicks for a second rounder so they can pick up some bodies for next year.

  12. eaglesnoles05 says: Sep 23, 2013 11:15 AM

    Sometimes, just sometimes, there are consequences in the season for being a lousy sloppy football team. Even for the Giants.

    I’m not sure what this has to do with the eagles never winning a super bowl, but you’d think I would since scores of Giants fans ritualistically bring it up every time I point out the simple fact that you cant ALWAYS be a bad team and still win the superbowl. Only every few years

  13. scaredhitless says: Sep 23, 2013 11:20 AM

    The problem has always been – no one looks up to Justin Tuck the way they looked up to Antonio Pierce or Michael Strahan.

  14. bluebongzilla says: Sep 23, 2013 11:30 AM

    Aw come on, it’s Eli Manning. Those 8 interceptions are not his fault!

  15. justinstuckrule says: Sep 23, 2013 11:30 AM

    I’ve been telling all of you that my man Justin Tuck is long finished. He hasn’t been a good player for years.

    I’m not happy I’m right but I did say this would be a last place rebuilding year. Time to jettison Eli, start the Nassib era and pray for the first pick in the draft.

  16. hbk72777 says: Sep 23, 2013 11:38 AM

    I don’t know how any of the D players could even stand at all after the 3 and outs.

    They were tired from being on the damn field the whole game

  17. tombradyswig says: Sep 23, 2013 12:09 PM

    hahahhaahahhahahaah

    0-4 coming up at the LOUD Arrowhead and BIG RED, did I say BIIIIIGGGGGG!! God he looks big in RED!

    ShEli is a good qb and has never been elite, just LUCKY! NOT THIS SEASON!!!

  18. nananatman says: Sep 23, 2013 1:08 PM

    Has KC ever won a Super Bowl? I don’t follow the history of totally irrelevant teams?

  19. peterawrhatred says: Sep 23, 2013 1:20 PM

    n0hopeleft says:
    Sep 23, 2013 10:15 AM
    peterawrhatred says:
    Sep 23, 2013 9:43 AM
    NFC east is by far the worst division, not one team that belongs in the playoffs

    __________________________________

    You probably said the same thing about the Seahawks two years ago.

    What happened to New Orleans that year, genius?

    It’s still week 3, and you’re talking about who belongs? It’s not even October yet.

    —————————

    Not sure what the saints have to do with anything, but having seen how bad the Giants; Redskins an Eagles have been this season I’d say my comment was fair. The Cowboys always find room for a few bad defeats.
    Both wildcard teams and the Bears were better than the east champions last season

  20. Mr. Wright 212 says: Sep 23, 2013 1:35 PM

    You cannot expect the defense to hold up when they are on the field for 40 minutes every game. People blaming Fewell are utterly embarrassing. When your offensive line is bad, it LITERALLY and negatively affects your ENTIRE team.

  21. Mr. Wright 212 says: Sep 23, 2013 1:39 PM

    tpistolis says: Sep 23, 2013 10:34 AM

    How about you give some love to the team that was far more prepared to play Sunday? The Panthers aren’t getting any love for this lopsided victory…. Its more like Eli needs help, the GMEN dropped the ball!
    —————

    Because the Panthers didn’t even play well. Anyone would have beaten the Giants that way yesterday. We have the worst offensive line in the league.

    And I love Justin Tuck, but he’s done. Been done for 3 years. He’s slower than most retired nose tackles.

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