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RG3 blames “stupid rule” for his fumble: “It just sucks”

Redskins' Griffin III loses the ball during a tackle in their NFL football game against the Lions in Landover Reuters

Washington quarterback Robert Griffin III had his best run of the season on Sunday against Detroit, but that run became one of Griffin’s worst plays of the season when he went into a head-first slide and lost the ball as he hit the ground. Griffin said he doesn’t like the rule that allows the ground to cause a fumble in that situation.

Griffin said in a postgame radio interview that he knows the ground can cause a fumble if a runner goes to the ground head first on his own and isn’t touched by the defense. Griffin also knows that if he had slid feet-first, the play would have ended as soon as he went into his slide, and if he had dropped the ball when he hit the ground it would not have been a fumble.

“Yeah, it’s the rule,” Griffin said, via Dan Steinberg of the Washington Post. “And it’s a stupid rule. You’d think if you declare yourself down that you’d be down. I mean, I wasn’t falling. I was trying to get down to avoid a hit, slide, be out there for my team. Knee down, elbow down, and then the ball comes out. According to them, it’s a fumble. That’s just the way it goes. It just sucks.”

But while Griffin may think the rule should change, if he knows the rule then it’s his own fault that he didn’t either slide feet first or secure the ball when he went down head first. Griffin needs to take better care of the football: He now has 17 fumbles in 19 career games. And that sucks.

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191 Responses to “RG3 blames “stupid rule” for his fumble: “It just sucks””
  1. thetruthcampaign says: Sep 23, 2013 12:15 PM

    Good to see the Lions are the better end of the big play calls this week.

  2. svn2011 says: Sep 23, 2013 12:15 PM

    This is the most media covered team and most talkative team in the NFL , even more than the jets which is saying something. And they are 0-3. Whatever happened to “When you win talk less and when you lose talk even lesser” ? RG3 should Belichick it for a while .

  3. bleachertees says: Sep 23, 2013 12:15 PM

    Wouldn’t the “giving himself up” rule apply here?

  4. thebirdofprey says: Sep 23, 2013 12:15 PM

    I really like RG3, I think he can be special player but that there is bad leadership. That is not taking ownership for your mistake. Giving yourself up – you slide the feet first. Not headfirst trying to get more yards without ball control. That terrible interception he threw in the Red Zone he has nobody else to blame but himself.

  5. eglsfan says: Sep 23, 2013 12:16 PM

    3,2,1….logicalvoices excuses to commence

  6. ar1888 says: Sep 23, 2013 12:16 PM

    Maybe we should special rules just for you Robert.

  7. kenosando says: Sep 23, 2013 12:16 PM

    Robert, you will find in life a lot of things are “stupid”, and for everyday Americans, like myself, there is nothing to do about those things except follow those stupid rules to avoid the consequences. If you know the rules, simply follow them. You don’t show much intelligence when you know the rules, disregard them, and then express your discontent with said rules.

  8. ctattles says: Sep 23, 2013 12:17 PM

    He never stops complaing.

    He noever stops playing poorly.

    Change these two things in your life, Bob!

  9. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Sep 23, 2013 12:17 PM

    You fumble the ball without anyone touching you and you’re blaming the rulebook for it?

  10. baddegg says: Sep 23, 2013 12:17 PM

    First of all, it doesn’t matter if it’s a stupid rule or not. You have to know the rules and play by them. Period.

    Second, not sure it is stupid. Let’s say a player is running in open field and just stumbles and falls and drops the ball. Later, can he just argue he “gave himself up.” Too much grey area there.

    The way it is written now at least it is unamiguous. If you are running and you fall head first, ground can cause fumble if you are not touched.

    To my mind, the more unambiguous the rule, the better.

    I feel for RGIII, but just admit you messed up there and move on.

  11. truthfactory says: Sep 23, 2013 12:17 PM

    There are some stupid rules in football, but this is not one of them. You are a “live” runner if you go down head first. You are just like a rb or wr in that situation, as you should be.

  12. bucrightoff says: Sep 23, 2013 12:17 PM

    Hey Bob you know what really sucks? Your defense.

  13. nagaswan says: Sep 23, 2013 12:18 PM

    wah wah sad baby. What a joke of a football player.

  14. djstat says: Sep 23, 2013 12:18 PM

    Why does this guy always complain? Bottom line is you made a bonehead play and fumbled. Your 0-3 and based on how you act I hope you go 3-13

  15. getyourownname says: Sep 23, 2013 12:18 PM

    Robert, you need to play by the NFL rules now. No more “let RG3 do what he wants, he’s so talented.” Skins fans may send you wedding presents just because of the wonderfulness of you, but the NFL is different that way.

  16. riggo08 says: Sep 23, 2013 12:18 PM

    While I cannot stand the Redskins, I have respect for RGIII and Alfred Morris. Both humble guys that play their hearts out. I have a feeling that like all other leaders and players in the Snyder era that this will all end badly and the best hope may be 8-8 for the team this year. What the heck has happened to the NFC East?

  17. sandblastermoron says: Sep 23, 2013 12:18 PM

    Just face it turdg3, u suck!

  18. briang123 says: Sep 23, 2013 12:18 PM

    Two seasons ago, Victor Cruz fell forward on his own and fumbled the ball late in the 4th quarter against the Cardinals. In the only instance I have ever seen the rule ever called like RGIII says it should be called, the refs ruled that Cruz was giving himself up and no fumble. How big was that call? If the call was a fumble, like very other time I have ever seen that happen in my 35 years of watching football, the Giants lose the game, do not make the playoffs and do not win the Super Bowl. Yeah, I’m still bitter.

  19. willnit says: Sep 23, 2013 12:18 PM

    I’m sorry, all I read was, “waaaaaaa, waaaaaaaa, waaaaaaa”.

  20. wryly1 says: Sep 23, 2013 12:18 PM

    I thought Griffin was supposed to be highly intelligent, but it sounds more like he’s channeling logicalvoice.

  21. dil269 says: Sep 23, 2013 12:18 PM

    If this isn’t the exact type of play you’d expect the Lions to commit, then I don’t know what is. And I’m a Lions fan.

  22. slbasegame257 says: Sep 23, 2013 12:18 PM

    He is no Russell Wilson. GO HAWKS

  23. gumbogumbo says: Sep 23, 2013 12:19 PM

    RGKnee needs to stop giving excuses and concentrate more on correcting mistakes and improving his game.

  24. gmenfan1982 says: Sep 23, 2013 12:19 PM

    I never liked this rule either. No sh*t the ground will cause a fumble. It’s an immovable object.

  25. l0gicalv0icesays says: Sep 23, 2013 12:19 PM

    I wish my Redskins would have just stayed put and drafted a QB with a long term future in this like, Ryan Tannehill. Instead, we mortgages our entire future for Michael Vick 2.0.
    #overrated
    #bust

  26. pooflingingmonkey says: Sep 23, 2013 12:20 PM

    RG3 making excuses already? The Deadskins are 0-3, but I didn’t expect the loser whining to commence quite this quickly.

  27. nomoreseasontix says: Sep 23, 2013 12:20 PM

    The best solution is: Don’t fumble.
    Takes the whining out of play and everybody wins!

  28. jtumen88 says: Sep 23, 2013 12:20 PM

    I guess he can also blame his “stupid knee” for their failure of a season

  29. ravensrooster94 says: Sep 23, 2013 12:20 PM

    Another example of why, more and more, it’s becoming RG ME.

    Everybody needs to take a break from this kid, including Robert Griffin III.

  30. camdenyard says: Sep 23, 2013 12:20 PM

    Anything illogicalvoices would say would just add comedic value. The Slurs and their record-setting inept defense is now augmented by a QB who would rather fumble than slide.

  31. logisticalvoices says: Sep 23, 2013 12:20 PM

    Hail to the Redskins!
    Hail Victory!
    Braves on the Warpath!
    Fight for old D.C.!
    Run or pass and score — we want a lot more!
    Beat ‘em, Swamp ‘em,
    Touchdown! — Let the points soar!
    Fight on, fight on ‘Til you have won
    Sons of Wash-ing-ton. Rah!, Rah!, Rah!
    Hail to the Redskins!
    Hail Victory!
    Braves on the Warpath!
    Fight for old D.C.!

    #LOLBob

  32. vdogg says: Sep 23, 2013 12:20 PM

    RGO-and-III
    Quit crying

  33. 1bigtex says: Sep 23, 2013 12:21 PM

    No, no, no RG0-3! It can’t possibly be a fumble. It’s all a conspiracy by Roger and his NFL underlings to halt the Skins in their quest to demonstrate their omnipotence.

    Perhaps if Bobby Griffin would read some of LVS’s posts, he would be more enlightened to the evil plans of the Illuminati regarding Washington’s team. Then he could go out and stock up on tin foil hats just as Mr. voicesays has.

  34. whatnojets says: Sep 23, 2013 12:21 PM

    It must be tough to be logicalvoices these days!!

    The Redskins have been “scalped” and now are ready for next years “reservation “appointment

  35. alwaysright1981 says: Sep 23, 2013 12:21 PM

    Funny how overrated these guys were Kaep and RGIII.
    Dolphins, Colts, and Seattle got it right.

  36. skarbar001 says: Sep 23, 2013 12:21 PM

    RG3 sucks

  37. rtp295 says: Sep 23, 2013 12:22 PM

    It is unreal how much this team is covered, every time they are beaten the team winning gets no credit, it is all about the Redskins didn’t do this. Sorry but maybe they just aren’t that good.

  38. 49erforlife says: Sep 23, 2013 12:22 PM

    And FedEx Field is STILL taking opportunities away from RGIII. That field surface still sucks.

  39. twilson962 says: Sep 23, 2013 12:23 PM

    If you’re gonna run, you’ve got to hang on to the ball… rules be damned.

  40. rdrs68 says: Sep 23, 2013 12:23 PM

    Skins got more problems to deal with that “stupid rules”. Wonder when Snyder will come out of the ether about the so called “genius” he has as coach?

  41. daysend564 says: Sep 23, 2013 12:23 PM

    If you can get up and run, you are open game for ground fumbles. When you give yourself up, you are down at the spot you started sliding. When you jump head first, you get the extra yards.

    He is correct though, there was something dumb on that play, and it isn’t the rule.

  42. yourmomsnewfriend says: Sep 23, 2013 12:23 PM

    While there is some solid company deep, deep down there are 0-3, is there a worse team than the Redskins right now? I think not.

  43. thebigtexas says: Sep 23, 2013 12:23 PM

    bleachertees says: Sep 23, 2013 12:15 PM

    Wouldn’t the “giving himself up” rule apply here?

    ——————-

    No, because he dove forward and wasn’t touched. If I’m a receiver, and I catch a ball and run a little and then lunge/dive for a first down…and no one touches me, I can get up and keep running. RG3 is just an idiot. He should just slide feet first, and then he won’t have to worry about it. Frankly, I don’t like the term ‘sliding head-first’. It’s really diving head-first. You slide on your butt, feet first. If he went into an actual sliding motion, he’d be fine.

  44. blacknole08 says: Sep 23, 2013 12:24 PM

    The rule is the rule and it has always been called that way.

    Although I think diving head first and giving yourself up to be vulnerable to a defender is dumb.

  45. Damidwesterner says: Sep 23, 2013 12:24 PM

    Giving yourself up is not diving forward for more yardage. You do see QBs doing the feet first thing, but you also see other players sorta curl up and fall to the ground while not really moving forward. I think one of the Lions DBs did that after an INT late in the Vikings game.

  46. sidepull says: Sep 23, 2013 12:24 PM

    Head scratcher. A gifted athlete that cannot incorporate into his game the ability to slide correctly. Athelete, college grad, what am I missing?

  47. tvguy22 says: Sep 23, 2013 12:24 PM

    Ha. Delightful.

  48. mykelane says: Sep 23, 2013 12:25 PM

    logicalvoices is actually Bob Griffin the 3rd. They’re never in the same room as the other. think about it.

  49. ilovefoolsball says: Sep 23, 2013 12:26 PM

    Yeah these read option mobile quarterbacks are sure causing problems for the NFL this year ::eyeroll::

  50. austinoxford says: Sep 23, 2013 12:26 PM

    In related news: RGIII takes his ball and goes home… stupid-head refs!

  51. skinsfolife says: Sep 23, 2013 12:27 PM

    That a boy Bob. Don’t take any responsibility. Maybe if you weren’t taping documentaries and making t-shirts and sock then you would have learned to slide in the off season. This guy needs to learn accountability and how to slide. Would still love to see cousins.

  52. squrlmoos1 says: Sep 23, 2013 12:29 PM

    This guy really seems to cry a lot. Grow a set and show some accountability!!!

  53. texansfan713 says: Sep 23, 2013 12:29 PM

    You mad Bob? Try sliding feet first next time and you won’t have to cry about a rule that is as fundamental to football as the forward pass.

  54. baltimoresnativeson says: Sep 23, 2013 12:29 PM

    He looked like a fool on that play. And looks like a bigger one for not taking accountability for it.

  55. mylionsroaring says: Sep 23, 2013 12:30 PM

    RG111 n oh I should have slid feet first

  56. sosuhme says: Sep 23, 2013 12:32 PM

    Dear RGIII – I agree that there are stupid rules in the NFL. Sincerely yours, Calvin Johnson

  57. (oYo) Chesticles (oYo) says: Sep 23, 2013 12:32 PM

    I wonder who Snyder is going to call to replace Shannahan? Lets see, we could go with Rich Kotite, or maybe Nick Saban, I hear Bobby Petrino is available, or maybe Jerry Glanville???

  58. tyrobjenkins says: Sep 23, 2013 12:33 PM

    It’s the same as a player stumbling and falling untouched, they get up and try to keep running. Not a stupid rule. I guess he thinks he’s still playing by college rules.

  59. howiehandles says: Sep 23, 2013 12:33 PM

    Perhaps you should have slid.

  60. torontofalcon says: Sep 23, 2013 12:34 PM

    No Rob you tried to get more yards by going head first…don’t like the rule? Then don’t slide head first

  61. peytonsneck18 says: Sep 23, 2013 12:35 PM

    I told everybody last year that IRG3 was vastly overated but now everybody is seeing it!!

  62. t8ertot says: Sep 23, 2013 12:36 PM

    No one touched you when you went down rg3…it’s pretty simple actually. Enough with the excuses

  63. dickwittman says: Sep 23, 2013 12:36 PM

    FRIGGIN’ DIVA. Not only reserved for WR’s anymore.. Winey little B!tch.

  64. peytonsneck18 says: Sep 23, 2013 12:37 PM

    Hey skins fans, guess who leading the turnover battle, yes its IRG3

  65. scaredhitless says: Sep 23, 2013 12:37 PM

    Is it me of is Mike Shanahan tanning on the first day of Autumn.

    Doesn’t tanning violate unwritten man rule number 1:

    Don’t do what women do.

  66. dstep24 says: Sep 23, 2013 12:38 PM

    RG’s new nickname for me is “Donna”. He’s now lost the “Prima”.

  67. taintedlombardis says: Sep 23, 2013 12:38 PM

    The short attention span of America is on full display here. It’s been 3 games since coming back from major surgery and now he’s washed up? Eli Manning sucked for years before he did anything.

  68. daknight93 says: Sep 23, 2013 12:38 PM

    in translation: RG3 is blaming the rule for his mistake…he’s showing his lack of maturity, he needs to be upset with redskins horrible defense!

    just really sad…this is what happens to a 0-3 team..pointing fingers and never accepting responsibilities

  69. brownmud says: Sep 23, 2013 12:39 PM

    Did logicalvoice say something logical?

  70. jimfix says: Sep 23, 2013 12:39 PM

    its a stupid rule that defenses are allowed to catch balls when i throw them. only people on my team should catch them – RG0-3

  71. vipod4ever says: Sep 23, 2013 12:39 PM

    RG3 & CK <<<<< Luck & A.Smith

    That's what you get when you think your somebody and have done nothing!

    Luck & Smith go about their business and just win!

  72. saints4life57 says: Sep 23, 2013 12:40 PM

    WOW! 17 fumbles in 19 games? I did not know that! Guess RG3 needs to learn how to keep hold of the football!

  73. nebster21 says: Sep 23, 2013 12:40 PM

    Per the NFL rulebook for a dead ball.

    when a runner is out of bounds, or declares himself down by falling to the ground, or kneeling, and making no effort to
    advance;

    Sounds exactly like what RG3 did. Per the rule book it is a dead ball which means no fumble.

  74. juliusanonymous says: Sep 23, 2013 12:40 PM

    All offseason, the fashionable argument among pundits was who was the best out of Kaepernick, RGIII and Wilson.

    3 weeks into the season, and it’s pretty clear.

  75. primetime0552 says: Sep 23, 2013 12:40 PM

    When you slide feet first the ball is spotted when you start the slide. When you dive head first the ball is spotted where you are touched. Whenever you see a player ‘declare themselves down’ you NEVER see them dive head first. QBs slide feet first and most other players just fall to the ground(there was couple examples in games yesterday when the defense intercepted a pass and the defender gave him self up by falling down). NEVER does a player dive head first to ‘give themselves up’, you only dive head first to get extra yards. Are the refs supposed to assume that every play that dives head first is just giving themselves up now and the ball be spotted where they start the dive? Of course not! RGIII knows the rules(I’m hoping) and knows that by diving head first he was going to gain an extra couple yards…its his fault he lost the ball and now he is trying to blame the rules…too funny.

  76. channer81 says: Sep 23, 2013 12:41 PM

    Bob I love you man, and will defend you to death but… Who fumbles a ball like that? Hold onto the ball man.

  77. peytonsneck18 says: Sep 23, 2013 12:42 PM

    Hey LV’s is the ressurection still gonna be televised? And are yal still playing in this years Superbowl? Only winner in this is the Rams, top 10 pick from u guys, only a matter of time b4 he loses his endorsements

  78. papichulo55 says: Sep 23, 2013 12:43 PM

    He knows the rules better than any of us. He’s mad because he Punked-Out, too worried about hurting himself with a slide. He lost the ball because his injury is still dominating his instincts, which is understandable. If he isnt ready to play, he should tell his coach.

  79. RayLewisIsGod says: Sep 23, 2013 12:45 PM

    How about since you clearly knew the rule – just don’t fumble the ball like it’s covered in Crisco?

    I think a simple “That’s my fault, I take full responsibility” – now that would have been the manly thing to do here. You would never see Peyton Manning whine come out and say “That’s a stupid rule.” Why? Because Peyton Manning is not a girl.

    Also, cut your girly hair.

  80. nou04 says: Sep 23, 2013 12:45 PM

    If you know the rule, then why are you b*tching? If you knew that if you slid feet first, it wouldn’t be a fumble, then why didn’t you slide feet first?

    You blew it Mr. Griffin, at least be a man about it and admit your mistake instead of whine about the rule.

  81. taintedlombardis says: Sep 23, 2013 12:46 PM

    @peytonsneck18 says:Sep 23, 2013 12:35 PM

    I told everybody last year that IRG3 was vastly overated but now everybody is seeing it!!

    RG3 > Andrew Luck

    RG3 has the worst defense in NFL history. Luck is simply a game manager. RG3 is coming off surgery and shows more than him.

  82. GBwomenrhot says: Sep 23, 2013 12:46 PM

    He’s no Jay Cutler….BOOM, take out that Safety!!!

  83. fredo80 says: Sep 23, 2013 12:46 PM

    Stop Crying, Bob!

  84. peytonsneck18 says: Sep 23, 2013 12:46 PM

    On that play all was missing was the benny hill music, lol, and the WR celebrating that non TD catch, yr teams a huge joke!!!

  85. taintedlombardis says: Sep 23, 2013 12:47 PM

    juliusanonymous says:Sep 23, 2013 12:40 PM

    All offseason, the fashionable argument among pundits was who was the best out of Kaepernick, RGIII and Wilson.

    3 weeks into the season, and it’s pretty clear.

    Such a small sample size to be making strong statements. You struggle in life don’t you?

  86. deathspiralx says: Sep 23, 2013 12:49 PM

    Or you could just not whine about it and hold on to the ball.

  87. seattlecoug says: Sep 23, 2013 12:50 PM

    Wouldn’t it be great if they lost at Oakland next week? I’d be smittin’ for the entire week.

  88. mike913 says: Sep 23, 2013 12:52 PM

    im surprised logialvoices and all the other redskin fans arent blaming john mara for the fumble

  89. sfsugator says: Sep 23, 2013 12:52 PM

    Im so glad my colts took Luck instead of this dude.

    FYI you dove face first doesn’t count as giving up, and your not in college anymore have to get touched to be down.

  90. taintedlombardis says: Sep 23, 2013 12:54 PM

    RG3 has so many haters. Clear indication that he is a great player.

  91. artvan15 says: Sep 23, 2013 12:54 PM

    Jeepers…the NFL bends over backwards protecting you quarterbacks and you are to stupid to know or follow the rules. You’re pathetic!!!!

  92. philtration says: Sep 23, 2013 12:55 PM

    Whaaaaa!!!!

    RG 0 and III

  93. allidoiswin55 says: Sep 23, 2013 12:55 PM

    Rg3 fumbles Alot. He always has and always will, he’s careless with holding on to the football. He fumbled in the teens last year and only lost what 2-3. He simply got lucky.

    Until he fixes that he’s bound to turnovers. Turnovers equal loses , I like the kid but the truth is he’s struggling Alot and he’s not responding well to the daily RG3 checkup on espn. He makes a lot of excuses then redirects them to himself.

    When you slide you go feat first. I believe the play hr was injured was a headfirst or sideways type of slide.

  94. pflynn20 says: Sep 23, 2013 12:57 PM

    Sounds like something McNabb would say

  95. vwbrown19 says: Sep 23, 2013 1:00 PM

    You screwed up Griffin now own it.

  96. skinsfan58 says: Sep 23, 2013 1:00 PM

    The rule does contradict with others. I have seen it where the Def is flagged for hitting a player that has “given himself up”. At the same time taking a knee is considered down if giving yourself up. His intent was to give himself up but the ball came out after his knee was down. But I this case it’s a fumble. Not sure how either side of the ball should play that.

    I do agree that he needs to stay away from the media but it doesn’t help if said media publishes his every move to include when he farts in the wind.

  97. tombradyswig says: Sep 23, 2013 1:01 PM

    Griffin needs to take better care of the football: He now has 17 fumbles in 19 career games. And that sucks.

    Good one MDS!!

    RG3-13 is such a crybaby, and a sucky one at that!!

  98. PayBizzy says: Sep 23, 2013 1:03 PM

    Stupid is as Stupid does

  99. PayBizzy says: Sep 23, 2013 1:06 PM

    lol McNabb Jr.

  100. peoriaviking says: Sep 23, 2013 1:07 PM

    It also sucks for me since he’s my fantasy QB and that cost me 2 points.

  101. goodellisruiningtheleague says: Sep 23, 2013 1:07 PM

    I cannot wait to hear what he has to say when they get beatdown by Oakland…

    At least the schedule gets easier after the bye. oh wait they play the 49ers, Broncos, Dallas, Bears, Falcons amd Chargers.

  102. trumb1mj says: Sep 23, 2013 1:08 PM

    This is not a “stupid rule”. It’s the only way refs can rule it. If there are multiple ways to declare yourself down, it makes tackling a guy in the open field really difficult. If he slides there is no problem and he should have known that…

  103. qdog112 says: Sep 23, 2013 1:13 PM

    The funny thing about this that the very same people trashing Griffin, are the same ones who trashed McNabb for offering him advice.

    What a contradiction.Robert should have shut his mouth and respected the fact that he could learn something from Donovan. Those same people who told Donovan to shut up are now laughing at RG3.

  104. scubasteve4930 says: Sep 23, 2013 1:13 PM

    Did logicalvoicesays just say something negative about Subway Bob and crew???

    HOLD UP

    I never thought the day would come where his comments would get my thumbs up.

  105. ColtsWinColtsWin!! says: Sep 23, 2013 1:14 PM

    RG0-3
    RG0-3
    RG0-3
    Where U at illogical one? Where’s you AT!!!!!!!!!

  106. devildog911 says: Sep 23, 2013 1:15 PM

    STUPID RULE!

    RULE = RG0-3

    #loltocrybabybobandlogicalturd

  107. rugbyisbetter says: Sep 23, 2013 1:15 PM

    See here is the thing.

    Leaders (as I believe RG3 can and should be), need to take ownership of their problem. You made the mistake. The rule didn’t get created after the fumble. Tell your team you did it and that you will make every effort to not do it again.

    Not many 0-3 teams rally behind the idea that everyone else is the problem, and everything they are doing is correct.

    The skins have now lost 2 games by 1 touchdown or less. In both of those games RG3 has had turnovers. If he can settle down and get into a positive groove again, he can lead this team. I for one hope that he doesn’t being a Birds Fan. But at least I call it as I see it.

  108. slugdc says: Sep 23, 2013 1:16 PM

    “Rule 7, Section 2, Article 1 states ‘An official shall declare the ball dead and the down ended: (e): when a runner is out of bounds, or declares himself down by falling to the ground, or kneeling, and making no effort to advance.’ ”

    Key words being “falling to the ground” and “making no effort to advance”. It wasn’t a fumble when Cruz did it against the Cardinals and it wasn’t a fumble here. I mean, he should have slid; sliding gives him special protection from hits. But ANY player can just give themselves up and end the play. You see it on game-ending interceptions all the time. You don’t have to be touched down if you are giving yourself up and not attempting to advance the ball.

    The ‘skins deserved to lose. RG3 made some boneheaded moves. The secondary got shredded again. They’re bad. But on this particular play I believe that they got the raw end of a bad call.

  109. gjdodger2 says: Sep 23, 2013 1:17 PM

    He seems to think they changed the rule to make what he did a live play, but it’s the opposite. I think he’s confusing it with college, where if you go down without being touched, you’re still down. They changed the rule so if you voluntarily give yourself up you’re down, but falling forward without being touched has always been a live ball.

  110. ufanforreal says: Sep 23, 2013 1:18 PM

    RG111=RGpleads

  111. cuda1234 says: Sep 23, 2013 1:20 PM

    This guy sounds as delusional as Tim Tebow. The league already changed one rule for him (allowing the III on his jersey) but apparently he thinks they should change more just to make him look good. Shut up and play, already!

  112. peytonsneck18 says: Sep 23, 2013 1:21 PM

    Redskins fans make more excuses that a bait car robber

  113. bunkslurpscrabmustard says: Sep 23, 2013 1:22 PM

    Loser team, loser franchise, plays second fiddle in DC/MD/VA to Super Bowl champs from Charm City.

  114. davicusmaximus says: Sep 23, 2013 1:24 PM

    He’s a young guy. Frustration causes young people to make silly comments sometimes. He clearly is not 100% physically or mentally. They shouldn’t have rushed him back, especially since they have a capable back up in Cousins.

    My objection to the entire RGIII phenomenon is that, now matter how good he is, he only plays one position. Maybe a defensive back or two would have been a better investment? Just a thought.

  115. gibson34 says: Sep 23, 2013 1:25 PM

    illogical voice actually said something logical….lmao……I think he is going to become a dallas cowboy fan now but please spare our base the aggravation…lmao.

    illogical voice…I got a knock knock joke for u….

    knock…knock
    whose there?
    Owen
    Owenwho?
    owen n 3….LMAO.

  116. jimthebuilder27 says: Sep 23, 2013 1:26 PM

    RG3 whining? I’m shocked!

    He doesn’t even play for Jim Harbaugh!

  117. gacoltfan says: Sep 23, 2013 1:27 PM

    taintedlombardis says: Sep 23, 2013 12:46 PM

    RG3 has the worst defense in NFL history. Luck is simply a game manager. RG3 is coming off surgery and shows more than him.

    —————————————————
    Game manager? He had the most yards for a rookie in NFL history and has 8 4th qtr comebacks in 18 games. What about that makes him a game manager?

    Game managers are QB’s that have great defenses and good running games. No one would say that about the Colts.

  118. gudy2shoes says: Sep 23, 2013 1:28 PM

    Im picking the Raiders over the team name that can’t be spoken.

  119. weepingjebus says: Sep 23, 2013 1:30 PM

    RG0-III. Trademark app went in this morning.

  120. nite2al says: Sep 23, 2013 1:32 PM

    You’re not at Baylor anymore, son.

  121. geniusesq says: Sep 23, 2013 1:34 PM

    He needs to quit complaining in the media.

    But, the rule is pretty dumb. It encourages defenders to make contact with a player that has thrown himself to the ground to protect himself from injury.

  122. bigrains says: Sep 23, 2013 1:37 PM

    Robert. You gotta stop bitching man. This is what happened. You drank your own koolaid after last year. I remember you saying “this game is easy”. And now you say “everyone in this league Is good”. Except you apparently. All you do is complain. It’s either the coaches fault for no preseason. It’s your coaches fault for the plays run. It’s your Ds fault, it’s your WRs fault, it’s your dad’s fault. And now, it’s the rules fault. Just stop. The rule is not stupid one bit, that’s one of the best rules in football. Everyone knows when you dive, the play is still going. You should know that, because every fan of football sure as hell does. Does anyone still think the Colts made the wrong choice of taking Luck? No way, the colts and their fans should be rejoicing that they didn’t get a Diva QB. It’s sad that RG3 is doing this to himself. If he shut his mouth for nice people would prolly sympathize with you. But because you talk all day everyday people love to see you fail. You brought this on yourself

  123. zenrooster says: Sep 23, 2013 1:38 PM

    HAHAHAHA….logicalvoice has disappeared!!!

  124. albinorhino49 says: Sep 23, 2013 1:43 PM

    Whiner!

  125. hehateme2 says: Sep 23, 2013 1:43 PM

    Tannehill> Kaepernick> RG lol

  126. taintedlombardis says: Sep 23, 2013 1:45 PM

    gacolt fan says:

    “Game manager? He had the most yards for a rookie in NFL history and has 8 4th qtr comebacks in 18 games. What about that makes him a game manager?

    Game managers are QB’s that have great defenses and good running games. No one would say that about the Colts.”

    The Colts running produced as much offense as Luck did yesterday and put on a dominating defensive effort. Luck did lead the league in potential interceptions last year though (32, 18 picked with 14 INTs dropped)

    Yards mean nothing, especially since his defense and special teams dug him out of what was supposed to be gargabe time in those “comebacks”.

  127. thermanmerman99 says: Sep 23, 2013 1:46 PM

    in other news. shortly after the game, sideshow bob attempted to throw his game jersey into the laundry bin and it was intercepted by the ballboy

  128. taintedlombardis says: Sep 23, 2013 1:47 PM

    bigrains says:Sep 23, 2013 1:37 PM

    “…people love to see you fail.”

    Welcome to America.

  129. delsj says: Sep 23, 2013 1:47 PM

    dstep24 says:
    Sep 23, 2013 12:38 PM
    RG’s new nickname for me is “Donna”.

    That’s cute that he calls you Donna, what do you call him?

  130. mrpowers88 says: Sep 23, 2013 1:49 PM

    This guy is obsessed with everyone liking him.

    Disagree with your coach about the handling of your injury? Use part of your sponsor-endorsed mini-documentary on sportscenter to explain that you were only “answering a question that was asked.” And then wear an “Operation Patience” shirt when you’ve already been fined in your career for wearing a shirt you weren’t supposed to- making the situation even more about you.

    Fumble the ball on a rule that everyone knows? Spew some passive-aggressive manure about how its a stupid rule- but its still a rule, so I still look respectable in defeat!

    Here’s some news, Bob. You’re not the Michael Jordan of the NFL. You got the “III” on your jersey, the rules bending for you end there.

    If you want more self-validation, you’re not going to get it from special treatment from the refs, especially when you’re playing like you are now. How about you open up another gift registry at Bed Bath & Beyond? Yup, That should do it.

  131. xxwhodatxx says: Sep 23, 2013 1:49 PM

    You’re not in college anymore Bob.

  132. szwhtsup123 says: Sep 23, 2013 1:51 PM

    Hey RgME,
    You obviously know the rules, so why don’t you hang on to the ball?

  133. ravensfan8780 says: Sep 23, 2013 1:52 PM

    Of course he thinks the rule is stupid because he lost the ball now had no one touched him and he looked up and saw nothing but green to the endzone he would have got up and ran and said no one touched me down. Can’t have it both ways Robert!!!!

  134. mantastic54 says: Sep 23, 2013 1:52 PM

    There was a game last year, it may have been vs Washington, victor Cruz did the same thing and it was declared that he gave himself up and it wasn’t a fumble. Not sure how this is different

  135. vcupats says: Sep 23, 2013 1:53 PM

    RG-Me is now 9-10 as a starter. It’s one thing to have a losing record, it’s quite another to act like a loser.

  136. jeffreyshulenburg says: Sep 23, 2013 1:53 PM

    The rule was made in a day when there wernt any QBs TRYING to run downfield. It was also a time when there was no giving up on a run. You put your shoulder down and fought for extra yards if you are a runner.

    Thats the thing these running QBs and their coaches dont understand. The “give up slide” was implemented to keep QBs from getting injured on runs. The QB already HAS special “dont hit me” and “thats not a fumble” rules. If the QB declares himself to be a runner, then HB rules apply. And HB rules say you can get smacked by a defender and you can fumble if you go down untouched.

    Try learning the rules of the game instead of trying to change them yet again to get yourself an advantage! That goes double for Kaepernik

  137. thermanmerman99 says: Sep 23, 2013 1:54 PM

    what is funny is how redskin fans are still making excuses for this loser, blaming their inept defense now as the reason BOB is garbage. yet the colts had a terrible defense, terrible offensive line, terrible running game last year, and Luck still won 11 games, while not complaining and whining to the media. and this taintedlombardi moron talking about dropped INT’s last year that Luck threw? and completely ignoring the fact BOB had plenty of INT’s dropped himself, i remember the tampa bay game alone where 5 INT’s were dropped by the tampa defenders in that game, yet this excuse making BOB suckup has his own lame agenda. this guy is so bitter and upset just like weak little BOB LMAO

  138. lionswinnextyear says: Sep 23, 2013 1:57 PM

    Damidwesterner says:Sep 23, 2013 12:24 PM

    Giving yourself up is not diving forward for more yardage. You do see QBs doing the feet first thing, but you also see other players . I think one of the Lions DBs did that after an INT late in the Vikings game.

    Yeah midwesterner, and the Lions QBs have been doing this (sorta curl up and fall to the ground while not really moving forward) for years.

  139. GrossmanDaSexCannon says: Sep 23, 2013 1:58 PM

    l0gicalv0icesays says: Sep 23, 2013 12:19 PM

    I wish my Redskins would have just stayed put and drafted a QB with a long term future in this like, Ryan Tannehill. Instead, we mortgages our entire future for Michael Vick 2.0.
    #overrated
    #bust
    —————————-

    Wat?

    …is this…what the what?

    This guy surely has his moments.

  140. christophershearin says: Sep 23, 2013 2:01 PM

    Technically this is not giving ones self up, by diving/sliding head first, additional yards can be gained through that process, while sliding feet first, the player feels his advancement of the ball is satisfactory, and he does not need to attempt to gain any further yardage, this feet first is giving ones self up, head first is not……….

  141. painsyndicate says: Sep 23, 2013 2:02 PM

    Griffin said he doesn’t like the rule that allows the ground to cause a fumble in that situation.
    ——
    Or anything that makes him look less than superhuman.

    Robert is just another QB in the league on a sub par team. He does not have enough juice to jolt the offense or the defense into serious contention.

    Too bad they forfeited next year’s draft pick to the Rams because it is going to be a pretty high one.

  142. taintedlombardis says: Sep 23, 2013 2:02 PM

    thermanmerman99 says:Sep 23, 2013 1:54 PM

    “what is funny is how redskin fans are still making excuses for this loser, blaming their inept defense now as the reason BOB is garbage. yet the colts had a terrible defense, terrible offensive line, terrible running game last year, and Luck still won 11 games, while not complaining and whining to the media. and this taintedlombardi moron talking about dropped INT’s last year that Luck threw? and completely ignoring the fact BOB had plenty of INT’s dropped himself, i remember the tampa bay game alone where 5 INT’s were dropped by the tampa defenders in that game, yet this excuse making BOB suckup has his own lame agenda. this guy is so bitter and upset just like weak little BOB LMAO”

    RG3 only had 5 dropped INTs last year…on the whole year. Quarterbacks don’t win games, teams do. Colts won in spite of Luck last year. Could you imagine if he didn’t have Reggie Wayne how ugly it would have been?

  143. stonedwhitetrash says: Sep 23, 2013 2:02 PM

    Jesus looked out for RG3 and out much better down at the Bible thumping Baylor

  144. granadafan says: Sep 23, 2013 2:04 PM

    There are so many rules protecting offenses, and especially the QB that the defenses are literally playing with against 12 people, with the 12th being the ref/Goodell’s lawyers. This one teeny rule helps out defenses and Bob has to whine about this one? He’s a runner and he fumbled. Too bad.

  145. warhammer420 says: Sep 23, 2013 2:07 PM

    There are a lot of stupid rules. This is not one of them. If you give up the ball before being touched, it should be a fumble. Derp.

  146. GrossmanDaSexCannon says: Sep 23, 2013 2:09 PM

    Also, hearing all you idiots blather on about this rule is giving me a headache. Like seriously is this the floor of congress where we only read/see what we want so that we can lie to ourselves that we’re right?

    Here, left me help you all. In no context anywhere, ever, in the game has ‘Diving head first’ been synonymous with ‘Giving yourself up’. It isn’t up for discussion and that’s why we have Mr. Griffin blaming the rule, and not how it was called.

  147. thestrategyexpert says: Sep 23, 2013 2:11 PM

    Learn the game Robert, you blew it.

  148. thermanmerman99 says: Sep 23, 2013 2:13 PM

    can you imagine if BOB was on the colts team last year with that non existent offensive line? he wouldnt have made it through the first 2 games. the opening game last year against chicago wouldve knocked sissyboy bob out indefinitely. keep making excuses for your glory boy BOB when you would do anything in your power to have an opportunity to trade places and have Luck on your team right now. keep crying, you arent fooling anybody

  149. gacoltfan says: Sep 23, 2013 2:13 PM

    taintedlombardis says: Sep 23, 2013 1:45 PM

    The Colts running produced as much offense as Luck did yesterday and put on a dominating defensive effort. Luck did lead the league in potential interceptions last year though (32, 18 picked with 14 INTs dropped)

    Yards mean nothing, especially since his defense and special teams dug him out of what was supposed to be gargabe time in those “comebacks”.
    _______________________________

    Although, I hope it lasts, yesterday was one game. I don’t think we can say the Colts have a great run game yet.

    He through a lot of INT’s last year because their offense was designed to throw downfield, not the short passing game. More risk = more INT’s. If you want to criticize some decisions he made which caused INT’s, fine, but saying he is a game manager is just a dumb comment.

    If you think his defense and ST dug him out of games that were supposed to be “garbage time”, you obviously didn’t watch any of those games.

  150. cmgww says: Sep 23, 2013 2:16 PM

    RG0-3 whining and endorsing every product under the sun before he even took a snap… Luck rocking a 7 year old flip phone and winning at SF. Why are we still having this debate? Luck has thrown 1 INT this season and his completion rate is way up. Colts 2-1, Skins out of playoffs in September… Debate over!!

  151. socalskinsfan21 says: Sep 23, 2013 2:16 PM

    it is a stupid rule. under no circumstances should the ground be able to force a fumble.

  152. thermanmerman99 says: Sep 23, 2013 2:17 PM

    and taintedlombardis, how about mentioning the numerous DROPPED TOUCHDOWNS luck placed perfectly into rookie receivers hands last year that were flat out dropped. there were PLENTY of those last year that you fail to bring up, so keep being one sided

  153. tombradyswig says: Sep 23, 2013 2:17 PM

    taintedlombardis says: idiotic stuff

    anyone, I mean ANYONE is a fool if they think RG3 is anywhere near the QB that Andy Luck is (pre or post knee surgeries)!! That dude is a field GENERAL at 23 yrs old, and may just end up being just as good as his predecessor!!!!!!

    As Si says, that’s a fact, JACK!

  154. l0gicalv0icesays says: Sep 23, 2013 2:18 PM

    “gibson34 says: Sep 23, 2013 1:25 PM

    illogical voice actually said something logical….lmao……I think he is going to become a dallas cowboy fan now but please spare our base the aggravation…lmao.

    illogical voice…I got a knock knock joke for u….

    knock…knock
    whose there?
    Owen
    Owenwho?
    owen n 3….LMAO.”

    When sober, my IQ doubles. It almost reaches 100. Anyway, I have seen the light. RGME is nothing but a selfish fraud. Shanarat and Dan Snyder destroyed this franchise by trading away our entire future for an injury prone, turnover machine, who only care about being in the spotlight. Time for a shot

    #FTTR
    #RG3MoreYearsLeftInTheNFL

  155. chesslungo says: Sep 23, 2013 2:19 PM

    Did u see that flash in the pan? It was RG3

  156. edavidberg says: Sep 23, 2013 2:21 PM

    RG stumbled and fell down. He only tried claiming he was giving himself up after the fact. Mr. Griffin needs to learn accountability if he’s going to become even a moderate success in the league.

    The difference between this and the Cruz play is that Cruz intentionally dropped the ball, which is some evidence of intent to be declared down even though I still think Cruz’s drop should have been a fumble. But Griffin didn’t mean to drop the ball, so there was literally nothing to suggest he was giving himself up. If he hadn’t fumbled he probably would have tried to crawl forward for a few more yards.

  157. whitdog23 says: Sep 23, 2013 2:22 PM

    sure he knows the rule? ?? anyone else notice ej manuel take a knee at end of bills game thinking it would stop the clock with a second left??

  158. cmgww says: Sep 23, 2013 2:22 PM

    RG3 only had 5 dropped INTs last year…on the whole year. Quarterbacks don’t win games, teams do. Colts won in spite of Luck last year. Could you imagine if he didn’t have Reggie Wayne how ugly it would have been?

    ___________

    Um, yeah. I guess Luck’s 7 game winning drives don’t count for anything. What a turd of an argument. Luck was playing on what was basically an expansion team last year. Atians was calling deep downfield passes with no offensive line, and no check downs. That equals INTs

  159. taintedlombardis says: Sep 23, 2013 2:36 PM

    Has anyone seen the SKins line attempt to pass block?

  160. bengalskuta82 says: Sep 23, 2013 2:37 PM

    This RG3 kid is all about himself..
    “pin the loss on me” “I’ll still fight till the end even though they hit me hard on every play”. Mr Superman physically but NOT mentally after all.

  161. stigman2012 says: Sep 23, 2013 2:38 PM

    “I didn’t think games could end in a tie. Stupid rule.”

    –Donovan McNabb

  162. fwippel says: Sep 23, 2013 2:39 PM

    There does need to be some clarification between the “giving yourself up” rule, and the ground can or cannot cause a fumble rule.

    Personally, I’ve never liked the “giving yourself up” rule. The first time I ever saw it used was in Super Bowl XXII, when in the first quarter, Denver (already leading 10-0) put pressure on Doug Williams, who ducked out of the way without being touched and fell over awkwardly, dropping the ball before hitting the ground. The Broncos thought they had a turnover, but the refs blew the whistle and used that “giving yourself up” rule.

    Does anybody at PFT have the NFL’s standard explanation for the “GYU” rule?

  163. taintedlombardis says: Sep 23, 2013 2:43 PM

    cmgww says:Sep 23, 2013 2:22 PM

    “Atians was calling deep downfield passes with no offensive line, and no check downs. That equals INTs”

    Just another excuse for a turnover machine. The above statement also has no basis in reality.

  164. tombradyswig says: Sep 23, 2013 2:46 PM

    has logical actually become, you know, logical??! I doubt it, but in the meantime, welcome to reality!!

    RG3-13
    RGo and 3
    RGfumbleits
    RG3INTs too many

  165. lagg1 says: Sep 23, 2013 2:46 PM

    I cannot believe my ears and eyes, Washington fans are turning on Griffin and the organization on talk radio and in blogs. Common Washington get with it. Sometimes it takes one good win to turn things around so stay focused and be positive. The last thing a team needs is 80k lunatics screaming venom at home. I can recall Joe Gibbs losing 5 or more games to start his first season in the NFL. Good grief!!

  166. 44boz says: Sep 23, 2013 2:48 PM

    Doesn’t he have a teeshirt or headband to write the rule on? Oh wait, they are already taken by stupid a$$ phrases.

    Sorry kid, but this is the NFL. Talk is cheap.

  167. suhisbetterthanu says: Sep 23, 2013 2:50 PM

    I heard that RG3 missed the meeting where they discussed sliding because he was too busy riding an elephant and doing jumping jacks for Washington fans.

  168. conormacleod says: Sep 23, 2013 2:51 PM

    I blame “stupid rule” of 60 minute games instead of 59 minute games. My Vikings would be 2-1 right now.

  169. somatg3 says: Sep 23, 2013 3:01 PM

    Is it just me or do RG3′s comments sound like whining when the Skins are losing? Wait until he’s “healthy enough” to start running more and a defensive end burries him after he hands off to Morris on a read/option play.

  170. raideralex99 says: Sep 23, 2013 3:01 PM

    The great QBs NEVER make excuses.

  171. jeffsnow7 says: Sep 23, 2013 3:40 PM

    I thought he was talking about the false Start rule for his hip thrust motion… totally threw me off

  172. fortphiladamsterdam says: Sep 23, 2013 3:51 PM

    Bottom line is he knows the rule, and he let go of the football. You want to blame anything, blame your butterfingers.

  173. gibson34 says: Sep 23, 2013 4:08 PM

    logical voice has finally seen the light and appears to be coming back down to earth. I am beginning to like this guy up to and including some beers and checking some hotties out…..lol.

    I agree Synder and company have flawed this once proud franchise right into the ground……

  174. tvguy22 says: Sep 23, 2013 4:12 PM

    Those pesky rules.

  175. bringbackkosar says: Sep 23, 2013 5:18 PM

    5.8 seismic disturbance today was not an earthquake, just all those fair weather Redskins fans jumping off the RG3 bandwagon.

  176. ppletr says: Sep 23, 2013 5:51 PM

    Methinks logicalvoices hears too many voices in his head!!lol

  177. grumpyoleman says: Sep 23, 2013 6:27 PM

    Word has it pft has forwarded a copy of the play to the nfl because it appears suh was stomping his feet too hard in pursuit of rgiii and caused him to fall

  178. randomguy9999 says: Sep 23, 2013 7:02 PM

    RG3 sucks

  179. mrlaloosh says: Sep 23, 2013 7:19 PM

    Hey BobDaTurd, you know what’s really stupid. Giving up THREE NUMBER ONE PICKS to draft a fragile QB. Now that’s stupid.

  180. harbingeroftruth says: Sep 23, 2013 11:41 PM

    Any truth to the RG3 trade rumors?

  181. orivar says: Sep 24, 2013 1:38 AM

    McNabb, like him or not, is a great. Did more with less and is part of a group that inspired the new generation of QBs. McNabb was also right on RGIII as the adversity is kicking in and he’s doing bad. He could of..you know helped him out but you know, he wanted to do it himself. It’s going to be a looooooooooooong road this year.

    Also most people didn’t know the game could end in a tie, lets be serious, even several players admitted it afterwards.

  182. footballfan80 says: Sep 24, 2013 10:39 AM

    RGIII has been absolutely attrocious this year. 0 TD’s and 4 interceptions through his first 3 games.

    Redksins fans “RGIII is awesome. He has thrown count it 5 touchdowns in garbage time when our team was being blown out of the building and the game was already over.”

  183. ytownjoe says: Sep 24, 2013 10:08 PM

    I guess that if I screwed up and fumbled the ball I would think it was a stupid rule too.

  184. bigblackanvil says: Sep 25, 2013 9:35 AM

    Only idiots would say RG3 is a bust. And you call yourselves football savvy. LOL. No excuses here. We just need the defense to do there part and we will be A..O.K !!! Do your thang Griff…do your thang…HTTR

  185. gregmorris78 says: Sep 26, 2013 8:58 AM

    I have refused to call him RGIII until he wins a meaningful playoff game.

    Oh, and Hold on to the damn ball!

  186. bcgreg says: Sep 27, 2013 8:01 AM

    I LOVE all of these comments saying “Tough, RG3. It’s a rule. Deal with it.” These are the same people who probably killed the officials who applied the Tuck Rule in the Pats-Raiders playoff game. To that, I say. Tough. It was a rule. Deal with it. The tuck rule has since been changed. Maybe this fumble rule will be changed too. And it should. Because like the tuck rule, it’s a stupid rule.

  187. tigersfandan says: Sep 27, 2013 12:07 PM

    taintedlombardis says: Sep 23, 2013 12:54 PM

    RG3 has so many haters. Clear indication that he is a great player.
    ______________________________________

    Didn’t Rex Grossman and Joey Harrington also have a lot of haters?

  188. captainspangled says: Sep 27, 2013 1:21 PM

    Is it not hilarious thinking back to when he came out how the mational media anointed him the “chosen one” because he was so great and “sincere” unlike that “evil” Cam Newton the year before him?

    And yet week after week we get an article or four about Griffin whining or pouting about something, suggesting something should be changed for his sake, or deflecting blame.

    It’s tiresome. This kid needs to shut up and play football instead of riding the glorious golden aura ESPN put on him. He’s come across as nothing but a massive punk.

  189. bigblackanvil says: Sep 27, 2013 1:43 PM

    I wonder how many of you RG3 haters will give him his props when he leads the REDSKINS to beats the crap out of the next 13 regular season opponents and lead the REDSKINS to steamroll through the playoffs to Super Bowl Victory !!!! Stayed tuned !!!!HTTR !!!!

  190. yourfriendcole says: Sep 28, 2013 1:19 PM

    Holy guacamole look at these comments!! I didn’t realize how much people hated this guy.

  191. laserw says: Sep 28, 2013 2:13 PM

    Stupid is as stupid does.

    Rusty Prima Donna now advocating for special rules for him; perhaps his daddy can start lobbying.

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