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Freeman is available, but who’ll want him?

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With three separate reporters simultaneously reporting that the Buccaneers are open to trading quarterback Josh Freeman, the message is clear — the Bucs want people to know that Freeman is available.

A media-erected billboard isn’t really necessary.  With Freeman in the final year of his contract and now firmly affixed to the bench, it’s obvious he’s not in the team’s plans.

Actually, it was obvious the moment the name “Mike Glennon” was announced at Radio City Music Hall in late April.

The Bucs publicly supported Freeman as the starter, starting with coach Greg Schiano’s comments in the wake of the Glennon pick.  Schiano later said that the team was sending no message to Freeman.

But the hints were there, beginning with the notion that Glennon would get “a lot of reps” in the offseason.  Those comments prompted us to write this on May 15:  “If nothing else, the bouquets being tossed Glennon’s way will light a fire under Freeman to step it up, once and for all.  If he doesn’t, Glennon’s streak of supplanting starting quarterbacks could continue.”

The last starter supplanted by Glennon is now the starter in Seattle, and the success of Russell Wilson and other young quarterbacks undoubtedly has prompted the Bucs to take a chance on their third-round rookie.

And so, taking a page from the Jerry Jones unequivocal-ain’t-the-same-as-unlimited support playbook, Freeman firmly remained the starter . . . until Schiano decided to make someone else the starter.  The challenge now becomes finding someone else to take Freeman off their hands, in the next four weeks and six days.

For the same reasons Freeman couldn’t remain the starter in Tampa, no one else will want to install him, either.  He has been uneven and erratic, and real questions have emerged about his commitment to the game.

Of course, he ultimately needs to be better than only one other starting quarterback, and if the coach is sufficiently desperate to win, a change could be coming.

Early speculation has centered on the Vikings, where 2011 first-round pick Christian Ponder has become the subject of intense scrutiny in his third season.  G.M. Rick Spielman, who drafted Ponder, surely would prefer to stay the course.  (In other words, Spielman likely has “no intent” to trade for Freeman.)  Coach Leslie Frazier, whose contract runs only through 2014, may feel compelled to roll the dice.

Apart from the risks inherent to trusting a guy whom the Bucs ultimately have decided to be untrustworthy is the fact that, the last time Frazier opted for a veteran who wears No. 5, it failed.  Badly.

Making Freeman the starter amounts to going all in with Frazier’s job.  That’s a huge risk for Frazier to take, especially when so many question marks are lingering regarding Freeman’s fall from grace in Tampa.

There’s a chance someone could be willing to trade for Freeman not to make him the starter, but to simply have him in the building for the balance of the season, watching him work and practice and trying to decide whether he could contend for the starting job in 2014.

With $6.44 million of Freeman’s $8.43 million base salary still unpaid, that’s a huge investment to make now in order to determine whether anohter investment should be made in the future.

Ultimately, that could be the biggest impediment to a deal.  If Freeman wants out, he may have to agree to renegotiate his contract — even though the balance of his salary is essentially guaranteed, given his status as a veteran with four or more years of service.

If the contract keeps Freeman from being traded, the Bucs may simply have to just cut him.  Which would then let another team take a short-term flier on a guy who not long ago appeared to be the long-term answer in Tampa.

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134 Responses to “Freeman is available, but who’ll want him?”
  1. conormacleod says: Sep 25, 2013 10:40 AM

    Freeman is probably worth a flier if its only a 6th round draft choice given up. You can probably sign him for much less than he thought he’d get at this time a year ago.

  2. cheapglazers says: Sep 25, 2013 10:41 AM

    He is the second best QB in the state of Florida behind Ryan Tannehill. That must count for something.

  3. MyTeamsAllStink says: Sep 25, 2013 10:42 AM

    Jacksonville jaguars line one

  4. tokyosandblaster says: Sep 25, 2013 10:42 AM

    Minnesota. He can play offensive line. Or add to that horrible defense.

    >

  5. bigzant82 says: Sep 25, 2013 10:42 AM

    Cleveland On Line 1
    i love brandon weeden but hmm we’d have slight upgrade at QB a younger guy with exp and he’d be perfect for norv’s system shotgun middle-deep throws and he’s mobile and tall in the pocket make this happen ASAP BROWNS if he dont work can let him walk at end of season & we can still try too trade for more draft picks and etc

  6. harrisonhits2 says: Sep 25, 2013 10:42 AM

    Freeman is available, but who’ll want him?
    ___________________________

    I hear there’s a team in Russia looking for QBs.

    Or maybe one of the CFL teams.

    He looked lost against the Pats and at the very least needs to go somewhere with better QB coaching than they have in Tampa Bay. Seems like he’s getting worse as times goes on there rather than better.

  7. bucforever says: Sep 25, 2013 10:44 AM

    The Bucs have a history of dumping good quarterbacks. A lot of them have gone on to have decent careers on other teams with different offensive schemes. I hope Josh lands in one of those spots. Now if we could get a new general manager, head coach and maybe new owners ,we could start to make some real progress.

  8. frankgarrett says: Sep 25, 2013 10:44 AM

    Vikings Suck

  9. scoops1 says: Sep 25, 2013 10:44 AM

    Jason Campbell 2.0

  10. tcostant says: Sep 25, 2013 10:45 AM

    If your the Jags, you don’t sent a 7th round pick to see if he is any better than what you have?

  11. filthymcnasty1 says: Sep 25, 2013 10:45 AM

    The Vikings are desperate enough and dumb enough to make a play.

  12. bobby2478 says: Sep 25, 2013 10:46 AM

    All the speculation that the Vikings would be interested is just stupid. Why would the Vikings bench their current mediocre starter (who knows the playbook and has 2.5 years in this system) for another mediocre QB who doesn’t know the system and would have to learn it from scratch?

    Doesn’t make any sense. After 3 games its hard to tell if Ponder is the answer or not, right now it looks like he isn’t. But the O-Line has regressed and is allowing way too much pressure to really give Ponder an opportunity to get comfortable and grow as the season goes on. If he isn’t able to get comfortable and begin to grow, then he isn’t he long term answer.

    What other options do they have for the long term? Cassell is likely a decent starter, but he isn’t a Super Bowl MVP caliber player. And Frazier’s job is riding on this year so they can’t do what Cleveland did by trading away AP and tanking the season for a high pick next year. Even Kaepernick looks shaky right now.

  13. bucrightoff says: Sep 25, 2013 10:47 AM

    The Bucs will received a compensatory pick (up to a 3rd rounder) if Freeman leaves and certain other conditions are met (the formula is kind of complex, but involves number of free agents lost versus gained). So the Bucs have no reason to accept less than that. And obviously no one has any reason to offer more than a 6th rounder for a guy who could leave in the offseason. He’s in no mans land as far as a trade goes.

  14. 12444uggg says: Sep 25, 2013 10:48 AM

    The Baguars could probably use another arm, but that’s about it.

  15. tcmiller30 says: Sep 25, 2013 10:48 AM

    I was hoping when I clicked on this like the body of the story would have simply read..

    “No one.”

  16. andrejohnsonforpresident says: Sep 25, 2013 10:50 AM

    A career wasted on being okay with just showing up imo. He was so good at times and then he stunk it up. I feel like he really didn’t want it all. Which is unfortunate because the bucs have a great roster around him.

  17. dalastjedi says: Sep 25, 2013 10:50 AM

    The Vikings and the Jags need to make the call NOW. I think a change of scenery will do Josh some good. It’s amazing how Josh never had problems UNTIL this college coach showed up! Greg Shi-Crapo stinks.

  18. sandblastermoron says: Sep 25, 2013 10:50 AM

    Turd bay?

  19. silverandblackfan77 says: Sep 25, 2013 10:52 AM

    I’d trh and get him if im Minnesota he has much much more ability than Ponder and with 8 man boxes all day no reason to go crazy

  20. theo547 says: Sep 25, 2013 10:53 AM

    Bring him to GB TT – cant be any worse then what we have – lets get a back up with some real potential for what?! 5th-7th rounder and make him into something great and trade him away. hes young, talented and in football shape… i dont see how hes not an upgrade over Wallace

  21. gocaps8 says: Sep 25, 2013 10:54 AM

    Schiano is a total idiot and should be FIRED before the bye week. He’s lost the team and management is asleep at the switch if they don’t do something.

    Freeman still has upside. I’d love to take Freeman on the Skins.

  22. Forsbergler is literally too stupid to insult says: Sep 25, 2013 10:54 AM

    As a long time PFT reader, I generally take time to read the comments section of each story, because some readers make good points, some prove their ignorance, some are funny, and some are hilarious (because of how stupid).

    With that said, I recall over the last few years, many comments about how Freeman sucked, and a whole army of “Freeman is awesome you just dont understand football” comments. Where did all of those guys go? Over the last week there have been several opportunities for the defenders to come out and support Freeman, yet they are silent… I am not saying Freeman is good or bad, just find it curious. Are Bucs fans that fickle? Or has Freeman simply been so bad they can no longer root for him? Not trying to cast the fan base as a whole in a bad light, I have just never seen an entire group of fans disappear like that, as if Freeman is the second coming of Houdini

  23. coltzfan166 says: Sep 25, 2013 10:55 AM

    The Jets are already on the phone with the Bucs. They’ve finally found a way to get rid of Sanchez.

  24. 87hollywoodhorn says: Sep 25, 2013 10:55 AM

    No matter who gets Freeman or what the Bucs gets for him, there is no stopping the Saints from going marching in and claiming our second ring!
    Thats right run and tell DAT
    Two rings? Two Dat!
    Who dat? Drew Dat!
    love daaaatttt

  25. jimmyt says: Sep 25, 2013 10:57 AM

    Tebow.

  26. whiteknightblackheart says: Sep 25, 2013 10:57 AM

    Mallet is no sure thing. Watch the Pats take a flyer on him….

  27. realfootballfan says: Sep 25, 2013 10:59 AM

    Well, he replaced Russell Wilson at NC State, and everybody got fired. Just saying.

  28. trannesotabiqueens says: Sep 25, 2013 10:59 AM

    sandblastermoron says:
    Turd bay?
    ———–

    I know you’re a bit slow, but Turd Bay is the team trying to trade him.

  29. bender4700 says: Sep 25, 2013 10:59 AM

    Shocker, the same guy who texted his coach in college to decommit. The same guy who has never been described as the hardest working player on the team would flame out.

    Who didn’t see this coming? Apparently Schiano and the GM did.

    Freeman is one of those guys who wants all the fame, money, and success but shows no motivation to work hard. He’s never impressed me from freshman year till now. He’s more like JaMarcus Russell than Russell Wilson.

  30. goodguyattorney says: Sep 25, 2013 11:00 AM

    bucforever says: Sep 25, 2013 10:44 AM

    The Bucs have a history of dumping good quarterbacks. A lot of them have gone on to have decent careers on other teams with different offensive schemes.
    ____________________________
    Don’t remind me.

    After leaving the Bucs these QBs did the following:

    1. Steve Young (won SB, HOF)
    2. Doug Williams (won SB)
    3. Trent Dilfer (won SB)
    4. Steve Deberg (started SB)
    5. Vinny Testaverde (started AFC title game)

    WTG Bucs.

  31. joh3092 says: Sep 25, 2013 11:00 AM

    All this speculation about Freeman is worthless without knowing how much room a team has under the salary cap.

    With the Vikings for example, the point made about about trading for a mediocre but talented player to replace another mediocre but talented player the team already has (and who knows a playbook that is different than the bucs) is a good point — also as critical as one is of Ponder, he’s demonstrably outplayed Freeman this year, the latter has been the worst starter in the league so far.

    But I am pretty confident the Vikings are playing this year close to the cap…that’s why Jared Allen is getting about $15 million this year, they’ll have money in 2014…but not now and not for this trade.

    I believe the Jags have cap space…but the same practical situation remains with both teams.

  32. thesconnienation says: Sep 25, 2013 11:03 AM

    @Bobby Ponder has had more than 3 games. To counter your line “Why would the Vikings bench their current mediocre starter (who knows the playbook and has 2.5 years in this system) for another mediocre QB who doesn’t know the system and would have to learn it from scratch?” If in that time he hasn’t been able to produce while having the best RB in the league to take pressure off, it isn’t going to happen.

  33. getadealdonealready says: Sep 25, 2013 11:03 AM

    Vikings – they seem to be collecting non-NFL caliber QB’s

  34. thesconnienation says: Sep 25, 2013 11:04 AM

    @87hollywoodhorn says:
    Sep 25, 2013 10:55 AM
    No matter who gets Freeman or what the Bucs gets for him, there is no stopping the Saints from going marching in and claiming our second ring!

    ——————————-

    “Our second ring.” Dude, you’re on the Saints?!?!

  35. hummer53 says: Sep 25, 2013 11:05 AM

    Oakland. He’s much better than Pryor

  36. tcostant says: Sep 25, 2013 11:05 AM

    bucrightoff says:Sep 25, 2013 10:47 AM

    The Bucs will received a compensatory pick (up to a 3rd rounder) if Freeman leaves and certain other conditions are met (the formula is kind of complex, but involves number of free agents lost versus gained). So the Bucs have no reason to accept less than that. And obviously no one has any reason to offer more than a 6th rounder for a guy who could leave in the offseason. He’s in no mans land as far as a trade goes.

    Me: I think they will take a 7th round pick. The formula you refer to includes free agent dollars rec’d and Freeman won’t get much. A 7th rounder in 2014 has the the same value as a 6th in 2015 (No kidding ask Mel Kipper) and compensatory pick is no sure thing. I think they would rather mover now, get what you can (including $$$ in 2013) and be done with it.

  37. 87hollywoodhorn says: Sep 25, 2013 11:07 AM

    BUCS have HISTORY of LOSING to SAINTS!

  38. gocaps8 says: Sep 25, 2013 11:08 AM

    Schiano has lost the whole team with his bush league shtick. I feel bad for the Bucs fans who have to watch this train wreck.

    Reminds me in some ways how the Skins mishandled Patrick Ramsey and Jason Campbell.

  39. dannyreneau says: Sep 25, 2013 11:13 AM

    Call me crazy, but i think KC should pick him up as a backup and he should just sit and learn from Reid and Smith for a few years. Smith won’t be around forever and the kid has a natural talent. It needs to be developed.

  40. edavidberg says: Sep 25, 2013 11:14 AM

    I’m sure several teams would want Freeman as a backup. Remember the demand for Kyle Orton a few years ago? But nobody is going to want him at a cost of six million dollars. Maybe at league minimum.

  41. jjthesportsguy says: Sep 25, 2013 11:16 AM

    Glennon didn’t exactly force Russ Wilson out of his starting job at NC State. NC State released Wilson from his scholarship after he showed an interest in continuing to play baseball in addition to football. That’s how he ended up at Wisconsin for his final year of eligibility.

  42. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Sep 25, 2013 11:17 AM

    Thinking the Vikings would trade for Freeman is just preposterous. Freeman does not make the team better. You’re telling me Freeman is better than Matt Cassel? They’re going to use this season to determine that Ponder isn’t the guy and then draft a QB next year. Even if Frazier thought Freeman could help him save his job (which I don’t think he would), Frazier doesn’t make those decisions. Spielman is about building a solid foundation to be successful for a long time; he isn’t going to bring in a guy in the middle of a season for a quick fix that might hurt your draft position.

  43. colbrant says: Sep 25, 2013 11:18 AM

    Josh Freeman and a 6th traded to Cleveland Browns for Josh Gordon. Make it happen.

  44. harrisonhits2 says: Sep 25, 2013 11:19 AM

    87hollywoodhorn says:

    BUCS have HISTORY of LOSING to SAINTS!
    ___________________________

    That’s not saying much don’t they have a history of losing to pretty much everyone?

    And before the Saints got Brees they had a history of losing to just about everyone too.

  45. dkrause71 says: Sep 25, 2013 11:21 AM

    Freeman i think is stuck.

    For a team like Green Bay (or anyone we deem good) one could easily say he would be a more talented backup and should be traded for but even outside the 6M left total, who is going to trade for a guy who’ll need 3-5 weeks to even learn the playbook and can bolt after the season? The other side, why would Freeman adjust his contract to extend at backup wages so a GB would find him worthwhile to trade for?

    The other side of the fence is the “bad” teams. This i feel is more plausible but if an earlier poster is correct that Tampa would receive a round 3 in compensation then none of the “bad” teams will try for him either. What would happen is they’ll go the draft route first to see if they can land their “franchise” QB and either bring in Freeman if they cannot land one, or want the kid to sit first.

    Freeman is in a bad spot. His team doesn’t want him. He makes too much, would need to learn the playbook and is in the last year of his deal for a “good team” to want him. A bad team will want to try and draft their “franchise” QB first.

  46. kscogg says: Sep 25, 2013 11:21 AM

    Poor freeman, doesn’t wanna work hard or put the time in to be a great QB. Has legitimate weapons and still can’t run the show.

    Another one bites the dust.

    Said it before and I’ll say it again, 2 things the winning franchises consistently have: a good/great coach and a good/great QB and the Bucs are certainly missing the latter.

  47. ColtsWinColtsWin!! says: Sep 25, 2013 11:22 AM

    The Bucs coaching staff is the problem in Tampa. Yes, Freeman is inconsistent but he was making progress until he had the carpet pulled out from under him by Schiano . Josh does not have the power to change plays at the line, his receivers are dropping the ball way to much, and the offensive line make bull matadors in Spain look like rookies. The problem really is Schiano, he is a overbearing, control freak. he wants to live or die by this terrible Rookie QB Glennon, then let him. Just remember when you fire Schiano after next season (because he is only in year two of his contract, and they will probably fire the GM and give Schiano one more year with Glennon) you heard from a neutral party who is the smartest guy in PFT land.

  48. fground says: Sep 25, 2013 11:22 AM

    Why bring up Frazier’s interest in acquiring Freeman when it’s very apparent he has no say in such matters. I think we’ve seen some signals from Frazier that if it was up to him Ponder wouldn’t be playing. Last year he seemed positively giddy before the GB playoff game when they started Webb. I’m not talking about the standard coach speak about we believe in our guy stuff – he seemed genuinely excited – not a typical state for Mr. Frazier.

    And this year – when Ponder has made one of his many horrible throws or decisions – Frazier looks downright dejected and annoyed. Again – not a Frazier trait.

    Spielman calls the shots and he will ride Ponder until through most or all of this season.

    The sad part is – as a Viking fan – I wouldn’t trust either the coach or the GM to pick a QB.

  49. bucrightoff says: Sep 25, 2013 11:24 AM

    Steve Young is the only QB worth losing any sleep over. Williams, Deberg and Dilfer were all average QBs who found great teams and won the Super Bowl. Vinny was decent but not a great QB. Freeman looks to belong in the Williams-Deberg-Dilfer camps.

  50. pillowporkers says: Sep 25, 2013 11:26 AM

    Rick Spielman wouldn’t give up one of his precious 6th rounders for Anquan Boldin, Josh Freeman is not coming to Minnesota.

  51. jjthesportsguy says: Sep 25, 2013 11:26 AM

    Who in their right mind would take a shot on this guy? It would have to be a bad team, and then he can bail after 13 games and hit free agency if he doesn’t like how things are going.

    The Bucs didn’t think this one through. If they wanted anything in return, this should have been done during the draft. Now they’ll just have that distraction around for the rest of the season.

  52. longcutskolvikes says: Sep 25, 2013 11:28 AM

    Even though there were a lot of reports about how Spieleman was very interested in drafting Josh Freeman, I’d wager my mortgage payment that the Vikes won’t trade for this guy. Tank with Ponder/Cassel and start from scratch at QB next year. Skol!

  53. bucsfan5000 says: Sep 25, 2013 11:30 AM

    Raheem Morris is telling Mike Shanahan to get Mark Dominik on the phone to make a deal.

  54. tigersfandan says: Sep 25, 2013 11:32 AM

    Jacksonville?

  55. steelerchicken says: Sep 25, 2013 11:33 AM

    Ponder stinks and should join his wife at the 4-letter newtwork! I would take Freeman over him

  56. footballchic777 says: Sep 25, 2013 11:34 AM

    Sounds like many of the guys down there would like to leave Schiano behind them……good luck Freeman. Not close to the best, but better than quite a few.

  57. ronin36 says: Sep 25, 2013 11:36 AM

    I’ve asked this question before, I’ll ask it again.

    How many teams can properly coach up a QB? I say, not many.

    Look at Alex Smith, struggled and struggled until Harbaugh started coaching him (I’m not a Harbaugh fan, but giving credit where its due.)

    Where ever there’s a coach that can coach-up QBs… They could go after Freeman. They’ll probably wait until he’s released, or next off-season. They could coach him a year, and trade him off… I could see Andy Reid doing just that.

    I doubt anybody will trade for him unless injury causes desparation.

  58. thegregwitul says: Sep 25, 2013 11:39 AM

    Jacksonville is the most logical option, as they have the worst collection of QBs in the NFL, but they won’t make a move on Freeman because they plan on landing their QB of the future in April’s draft.

    Josh Freeman would be an improvement for Cleveland, but I think they’ll stay out of it as well. Perhaps a team is looking to acquire Freeman as a backup, but it doesn’t make sense to bring him in if the plan is to sit him behind an elite QB and not let him compete.

    This leaves one remaining option: The Minnesota Vikings. Matt Cassel is a solid backup, but maybe a new team would light a fire under Freeman. He may not be better than Christian Ponder at this moment, but he’s definitely not worse. Freeman would play in a dome and if the Bucs current coaching staff really shackled and stunted his development as badly as some like to think, the Vikings might be able to course-correct Josh back on the track to be a productive QB.

    Josh Freeman is only 25 years old. He led the youngest team in the NFL with nine rookies starting to ten wins a few years back, and don’t discredit the schedule; the man led multiple 4th quarter comebacks against NFL teams. He wasn’t playing against CFL opponents or the MAC conference. He is the definition of an inconsistent QB, and over time, he might prove to be nothing more than Jason Campbell 2.0, but if the Bucs are willing to deal him for a mid-round pick (and it sure sounds that way), why not roll the dice and take a chance?

  59. elgrantaco says: Sep 25, 2013 11:40 AM

    goodguyattorney says: Sep 25, 2013 11:00 AM

    bucforever says: Sep 25, 2013 10:44 AM

    The Bucs have a history of dumping good quarterbacks. A lot of them have gone on to have decent careers on other teams with different offensive schemes.
    ____________________________
    Don’t remind me.

    After leaving the Bucs these QBs did the following:

    1. Steve Young (won SB, HOF)
    2. Doug Williams (won SB)
    3. Trent Dilfer (won SB)
    4. Steve Deberg (started SB)
    5. Vinny Testaverde (started AFC title game)

    WTG Bucs.

  60. bucheadlouden says: Sep 25, 2013 11:40 AM

    @Forsbergler is literally too stupid to insult:
    Freeman can be a decent QB,when given the help (talent around him + sheme). Heck, Rex Grossman was a starting SuperBowl-QB. Some said the Browns throw deep the middle stuff? If they also let him play loose (let him play ala Roethlisberger, then)Maybe Freeman fits your sheme. They could give him a look.

  61. flexx91 says: Sep 25, 2013 11:41 AM

    Yeah right. Who would want to trade for an underperforming QB who will be an UFA at the end of the season?

  62. ccjcsr says: Sep 25, 2013 11:44 AM

    Why trade when he’ll be released in the offseason and won’t have to take on the salary!

    #GM101

  63. joetoronto says: Sep 25, 2013 11:49 AM

    He’s better than anyone the Chiefs have had at QB in decades.

  64. praetorian12 says: Sep 25, 2013 11:53 AM

    Freeman should stay; Schiano must go.

  65. dalcow4 says: Sep 25, 2013 11:54 AM

    Lucky for Raider fans that Hue Jackson is not around. Might have lost your first round pick in 2014.

  66. soundsofsuccess7 says: Sep 25, 2013 11:54 AM

    Denver please throw a late rounder at the Bucs. Him versus Osweiler in a year or two would be great.

  67. dante170 says: Sep 25, 2013 11:58 AM

    hummer53 says: Sep 25, 2013 11:05 AM

    Oakland. He’s much better than Pryor
    —————————————————-
    Knowing the raiders, they would probably throw in their first round draft pick….For the next five years.

  68. mickmoney says: Sep 25, 2013 12:03 PM

    If you guys think the queens are going to trade for this guy you’re nuts…he isn’t an ex-packer so you know they have no interest in him

  69. Andre's Johnson says: Sep 25, 2013 12:09 PM

    Man, David Carr was on an NFL roster for like eleven years after everyone realized he sucks. There’ll be a spot for Freeman somewhere. He’s got a reasonable skill set, and as long as his attitude is better he’ll be a backup till he’s 35.

  70. robf2010 says: Sep 25, 2013 12:16 PM

    There are quite a few teams that don’t have a franchise quarterback and Freeman is still very young. I have my doubts that he is or ever was a franchise quarterback but I also don’t think the damage Schiano did to him is permanent. If the QB and the HC don’t trust each other, it can’t work.

  71. whoisrdymlz says: Sep 25, 2013 12:17 PM

    MN, JAX, and AZ are all possibilities. Best fit is CLE, though. Chud could do something with this guy.

  72. olcap says: Sep 25, 2013 12:18 PM

    Too bad. Josh is simply the collateral damage done to the team by Raheem Morris.

  73. somatg3 says: Sep 25, 2013 12:20 PM

    i’d take Favre or Freeman over Ponder. Favre could step off his tractor and into the Vikes huddle this week and be 100 times better than ponder.

  74. gerryb323 says: Sep 25, 2013 12:27 PM

    Yeah, saying Glennon supplanted Russell Wilson is a bit disingenuous.

  75. trilbilly says: Sep 25, 2013 12:30 PM

    There are at least half a dozen places he could end up. At the very least he’d be a capable backup for someone like Jay Cutler in Chicago, Alex Smith in Kansas City or a Backup/eventual replacement for Carson Palmer in Arizona. The Redskins might even take him if they were offered a deal they can’t refuse for Cousins.

    He could compete for a starting job in Jacksonville, Oakland, Minnesota and the Jets.

    Meanwhile all the Bucs have at this point is Mike Glennon. Lotsa Luck!

  76. wearethesteelers says: Sep 25, 2013 12:32 PM

    I would say Cleveland, but Hoyer is better than Freeman.

  77. kcflake says: Sep 25, 2013 12:35 PM

    Off the top of my head, Jacksonville, Minnesota, Oakland, New England, San Diego, Cleveland, Houston texans. One of these teams should send 6th to TB for Freeman.

  78. MyTeamsAllStink says: Sep 25, 2013 12:35 PM

    Oh yeah firing Gruden was the best move Tampa Bay’s made in years…………

  79. mogogo1 says: Sep 25, 2013 12:36 PM

    “Actually, it was obvious the moment the name “Mike Glennon” was announced at Radio City Music Hall in late April.”
    ____________________

    I think that’s hind sight talking. If they were really serious at that time about replacing Freeman, there were guys who were a far better bet than Glennon who looked more like a project pick.

  80. jw1991 says: Sep 25, 2013 12:40 PM

    @cheapglazers

    He is the second best QB in the state of Florida behind Ryan Tannehill. That must count for something.

    __________________________________

    Actually, I think Matt Moore is better.

  81. tannethrill says: Sep 25, 2013 12:40 PM

    I’m thinking the Bengals could use some insurance behind Dalton but I doubt they’ll pay what the Bucs want. Maybe closer to the deadline but ultimately he’ll go someplace where they need a backup. Cincy stands out to me after watching the battle for #2 on Hard Knocks.

  82. bender4700 says: Sep 25, 2013 12:45 PM

    It’s not coaching. He simply isn’t one of those coach able players. He was this way in college. Some guys are just lazy and don’t want to work. He got paid, and doesn’t care about his reputation nor winning. He’s stood still for years. No real strides of improvement.

    He has so much talent, but no drive. No coach will change that.

  83. wilsonwillbreaku says: Sep 25, 2013 12:46 PM

    Niners need a QB…

  84. j0esixpack says: Sep 25, 2013 12:47 PM

    Freeman for Weeden – straight up

  85. chiadam says: Sep 25, 2013 12:54 PM

    The “commitment to the game” question remains the stupidest thing I can ever possibly imagine. If you manage to one of the very select few that gets drafted and becomes a multiple-season starter, you are committed. Or you’re the greatest athlete in the history of the world and you can sleepwalk your way into one of 32 starting QB jobs in the NFL.

  86. espi0088 says: Sep 25, 2013 1:01 PM

    Being from MN, If you have ever heard Spielman talk about QB’s he was enamored with Josh Freeman when he was coming out. He couldn’t say enough good things about him which could be a bad thing given the fact he hand picked Christian Ponder. One of the commentators could not of had it more correct, Frazier takes a team on a team record turn around from 3-13 to 10-6 (+7wins) and does not get a contract extension! weather it would of been the right move or not is not the important fact but it is that he instead was left out in the cold with a one year contract. ANY other coach having had a historic and team record turnaround would of easily gotten a contract. It shows that Speilman is the one who holds all the cards and all the power in the organization. Back to the article Spielman does love Freeman and hopefully he can swallow his pride and admit that ponder was beyond a disaster.

  87. bubashep says: Sep 25, 2013 1:05 PM

    Freeman can be a good qb in this league if you mold your offense around his abilities – not force him into a scheme he’s not suited for. Don Shula

  88. dcfan999 says: Sep 25, 2013 1:16 PM

    The jags or browns

  89. riverhorsey says: Sep 25, 2013 1:19 PM

    Freeman has a little more than “the right scheme” problem. He has an attitude problem reflected by the fact he was not voted a team captain.

  90. davefromacquisitions says: Sep 25, 2013 1:20 PM

    To the posters who have mentioned Washington as potential trade partners – Why on earth would the Redskins have any interest in adding Freeman? Washington already has Robert Griffin III, Kirk Cousins, and Rex Grossman. All three are considerably better quarterbacks than Josh Freeman. SMH.

  91. 80sbroncofan says: Sep 25, 2013 1:26 PM

    Another 2009 NFL Draft Bust. Who’s next?

  92. simplesimon1 says: Sep 25, 2013 1:28 PM

    Honestly, makes a person wonder.

    Before Schiano got to the Bucs and destroyed his confidence, Freeman was a stud, young, QB and over half the league would have jumped at the prospect of getting him. Now, just a year and a bit later he’s “useless” and “talentless” and not worth anything more than a 6th rounder?

    I don’t buy it. I think Freeman has been completely destroyed by really bad coaching. He has responsibility as well, but the only difference is that Schiano is the coach and the entire team is underperforming to their talent level. The Bucs have a stacked team, talent wise, and they can’t win a game? That’s coaching.

    It’s sad that Glennon will most likely come in and win an easy game at home vs the Cardinals this week and then everybody will quickly proclaim that Schiano knew all along and is a smart coach for making the decision to bench Freeman.

    On another note, this is the move that’s best for both parties.

  93. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Sep 25, 2013 1:30 PM

    espi0088 says:Sep 25, 2013 1:01 PM

    Being from MN, If you have ever heard Spielman talk about QB’s he was enamored with Josh Freeman when he was coming out. He couldn’t say enough good things about him which could be a bad thing given the fact he hand picked Christian Ponder. One of the commentators could not of had it more correct, Frazier takes a team on a team record turn around from 3-13 to 10-6 (+7wins) and does not get a contract extension! weather it would of been the right move or not is not the important fact but it is that he instead was left out in the cold with a one year contract. ANY other coach having had a historic and team record turnaround would of easily gotten a contract. It shows that Speilman is the one who holds all the cards and all the power in the organization. Back to the article Spielman does love Freeman and hopefully he can swallow his pride and admit that ponder was beyond a disaster.
    ________

    Since when do we believe what general managers say about players before the draft?

  94. Rick Spielman is a Magician says: Sep 25, 2013 1:32 PM

    The team that makes the most sense for Freeman is obviously Green Bay. They have the worst backup quarterback situation in the league. Freeman could learn the offense until he’s needed, if ever. Freeman is not going to step in and be a starting quarterback for somebody this year.

  95. bobby2478 says: Sep 25, 2013 1:33 PM

    @fground you are exactly right. They’ll give Ponder the rest of the year and if he doesn’t play any better then he has thus far, they’ll decide he isn’t the long term answer and need to figure out plan B. Only problem is they are going to win some games, and won’t get a high enough draft pick needed to draft a top QB, so they’ll be stuck picking between more mediocre options. Also, if their O-Line doesn’t start to protect better it won’t matter who they bring in next, they’ll likely suffer the same fate as Ponder.

    They don’t have a lot of options. There are no young franchise QBs available, and they won’t suck enough to get the high pick required to get a good QB in next years draft. And even if they did, unless their play calling and O-Line improves, they’ll be setting him up for failure too and will basically have wasted 2 first round picks on QB’s who weren’t the answer.

    It isn’t pretty. But lots of teams aren’t set at QB after looking like they had the answer last year. Kaepernick suddenly doesn’t look so good, same with RG3, and Wilson isn’t exactly setting the world on fire (but he is at least winning).

  96. cwk22 says: Sep 25, 2013 1:34 PM

    Jags took Henne, so they might take him too!

  97. bobby2478 says: Sep 25, 2013 1:36 PM

    Also, I don’t trust Spielman or Frazier’s ability to pick a good QB. They should hire someone who has the skillset and track record in talent evaluation at the QB position to help them pick a good QB and weed out the crappy ones who are still rated high.

  98. 52lightsxout52 says: Sep 25, 2013 1:40 PM

    Green Bay should take him, assuming he is willing to be a back-up…

  99. slick50ks says: Sep 25, 2013 1:40 PM

    LOL @ Cassel can be a decent starter.

    When ignorance meets reality, laughter ensues.

    Cassel was the 33rd worst QB last year, which means he was worse than a bench player. But by all means, put that in your lineup, lol.

  100. keifer1751 says: Sep 25, 2013 1:43 PM

    DEAR COACH SCHIANO –

    YOU SUCK ON EVERY LEVEL. YOU ARE NOT QUALIFIED TO COACH IN THE NFL. YOU ARE A .500 SMALL COLLEGE COACH. YOU FRACTURED THIS TEAM AND IT’S QUARTERBACK. GO THE HELL AWAY! TODAY WOULD BE FINE…

  101. mikemccarthyhof says: Sep 25, 2013 1:45 PM

    Ted, if you’re reading: MAKE A CALL TO TAMPA!!! We could use some athleticism behind AR12. This could be our version of Keapearnick

  102. footballchic777 says: Sep 25, 2013 1:53 PM

    The Bengals have Josh Johnson begins Andy Dalton. We don’t need Josh Freeman.

  103. theuglitruth says: Sep 25, 2013 2:08 PM

    College Coach stinking the NFL up!

  104. razzzmajazzz says: Sep 25, 2013 2:14 PM

    I would trade Blaine Gabbert in a red hot minute for Freeman. Hell, I’d trade Blaine Gabbert for an old sweat sock.

  105. thestrategyexpert says: Sep 25, 2013 2:25 PM

    It would have been much better to trade him before the season. They took too late on this big decision.

  106. filthymcnasty1 says: Sep 25, 2013 2:34 PM

    “Speildope needs to trade that noodle armed Ponder chick for Freeman.”

    – Adrian Peterson’s daughter via Twitter

  107. gfcf42489 says: Sep 25, 2013 2:39 PM

    If Freeman can re-negotiate his contract, don’t be surprised if he lands up in Houston and warms the bench for the Texans during this season and next year.

    One overlooked feature about Gary Kubiak is that he likes bringing on QBs who either underperformed or who was just in the wrong place at the wrong time (i.e. Schaub with Vick). He took on Dan Orlovsky (remember him?) and even managed to get the best out of David Carr in a Texans uniform. He even wanted Matt Leinart to learn and develop behind Schaub in 2010 when all the experts predicted Leinart was going anywhere but Houston.

  108. realitycheckbaby says: Sep 25, 2013 2:45 PM

    San Fran, here’s your answer.

  109. realitycheckbaby says: Sep 25, 2013 2:47 PM

    The team that makes the most sense for Freeman is obviously Green Bay. They have the worst backup quarterback situation in the league. Freeman could learn the offense until he’s needed, if ever. Freeman is not going to step in and be a starting quarterback for somebody this year.
    =============================

    Again.

    San Fran x 2

  110. meandjuliojonesdownbytheschoolyard says: Sep 25, 2013 2:47 PM

    Freeman is a quality QB. He was just undercut but a low quality coach.

  111. jamin67 says: Sep 25, 2013 2:48 PM

    I’d love to see the Eagles take a flyer on him. He’s got a stronger arm and more mobility than Matt Barkley, plus he’s only 25 and comes with NFL experience. And they have the cap room.

  112. tobiasjodter says: Sep 25, 2013 2:55 PM

    I’ve seen a little bit of Buc’s play this year. Looks to me like Freeman has NO supporting cast at all. How does anyone expect a rookie QB to do better with the same lack of talent around him?

  113. jeagan1999 says: Sep 25, 2013 2:57 PM

    Freeman is only completing 45% of his passes and making $8 million. Not too many teams would take a chance on him unless he is willing to take a big pay cut. I hope that Glennon can have a good game Sunday and show Bucs fans he has the intelligence, attitude and instincts that Freeman lacked. A rocket arm isn’t necessarily the top thing a QB needs!

  114. obmig says: Sep 25, 2013 3:00 PM

    Nobody should be interested in bringing him in as a starter because he isn’t good enough, nor as a backup because he costs too much.

  115. howiehandles says: Sep 25, 2013 3:07 PM

    Anyone who gives up anything remotely of value is wasting their time. The guy has proven to be soft and far too sensitive to be your starting QB, unless you want your team to be mediocre. Poor baby pouts and stays out of the team pic.

    He has more than enough tools on that team to succeed, but obviously needs to be hugged and coddled by a coach vs being a grown up man paid to play.

  116. wohg says: Sep 25, 2013 3:08 PM

    Schiano is doing his best to ruin Freeman and the franchise. Imagine what any other head coach/coaching staff in the league could do with that roster. Schiano is clearly the worst coach in the NFL.

  117. shlort says: Sep 25, 2013 3:16 PM

    The best thing for Freeman is to get a fresh start somewhere else. He was looking really good his first couple campaigns, and something happened. He either does not like the situation he is in where he is, or he lost his love for the game. Someone can pick him up for cheap and make him into something, but that someone has got to be someone who knows how to take a player like Freeman and refocus him.

    That said, the only teams in need of QBs are bad teams because of their O-line situation or their QB is bad.. or both.

    I’d say New England would be a good spot for him. He can sit and learn from Brady until he calls it quits in a couple years, then the Pats would have a guy that is regenerated and smart enough to play the game at that point.

  118. trollaikman8 says: Sep 25, 2013 3:38 PM

    This isn’t scientific but he’s owned by 4% of the Fantasy League.

    This should give you an indication of how much interest you’ll find.

  119. steelchampions says: Sep 25, 2013 3:41 PM

    Freeman’s been on the bubble since he came into the league. He’s never had the look of a QB who has ‘It'; more like a QB who has ‘Potential’. In the long run he’ll be a career back-up if he stays in the NFL.

    Christian Ponder is way worse than Freeman so, if anyone trades for him I agree that Minnesota would be the most obvious team to go after him. That being said, chances are nobody trades for him and lets him get cut so they can sign him to a low-end/try-out type of deal.

    And the clock is probably ticking on Greg Schiono as well. He’s probably figured out by now that his college approach only treads water for so long and that grown men tune him out. Adapt or die, Greg.

  120. mrplow3 says: Sep 25, 2013 3:45 PM

    “Call me crazy, but i think KC should pick him up as a backup and he should just sit and learn from Reid and Smith for a few years. Smith won’t be around forever and the kid has a natural talent. It needs to be developed.”

    Alex Smith is younger than Brandon Weeden. Why exactly will he be gone in a few years? Why exactly would his career end before Freemans? They are both young.

    After what Smith went through in SF leave him the heck alone. The guy is better than 80% of NFL starters and still gets no respect.

  121. tformation says: Sep 25, 2013 3:56 PM

    No one is going to bite. Freeman will be a Buc until the season ends, then get waived on day 1 of the new season. Then someone team will take a flyer on him. I’ve barely watched any of Freeman, but he seems a better option as a backup than at least half of the backup QBs in the league. He’s just too expensive from a cash and draft pick perspective right now.

    Freeman might actually get some more playing time for the Bucs this season BTW. Glennon could get injured or suck horribly and Freeman could be back for at least a game or two.

  122. onebucplace says: Sep 25, 2013 4:19 PM

    You speak of young quarterbacks — for the record Freeman is already a veteran in the NFL has is only 25. If he actually was allowed to play in an NFL offense he can succeed. Even in the insestious Schiano scheme Freeman put up these numbers last year;

    4,065 yards 27 TDs 17 INTs

    Freeman will go on to success somewhere, meanwhile within 2 years Schiano will be back in college.

  123. summitmech says: Sep 25, 2013 4:40 PM

    No thanks, I see no point in trading one bad, erratic QB for another. The Vikings should wake up like the Browns and Bucs, and play one of their BETTER QBs (and both Vikings QBs are better).

    I wish WE would roll on our 3rd string QB. McLeod Bethel Thompson might light a fire under this team!

  124. thelastpieceofcheese says: Sep 25, 2013 4:41 PM

    Freeman won’t have problems finding suitors because already he is better than 80 percent of NFL quarterbacks, and he has tremendous upward potential.

  125. bender4700 says: Sep 25, 2013 4:48 PM

    @simplesimon
    You’re off base. Freeman was a stud because he was a rookie. How many mobile QBs have beast rookie years, then after the D coords have film they slow down. He’s gone down hill each year because he’s made little to no effort.

    @the “you have to be really motivated to be in the NFL” argument:
    Sometimes guys are super talented, but don’t work hard. JaMarcus Russell for one. Some guys get there on talent, but fail by their effort.

    Josh has demonstrated he’s not one to overcome tough times nor has grown. He’s standing still. Why else would the Buca be so eager to get rid of him!!!?

  126. twominutetommy says: Sep 25, 2013 5:11 PM

    Freeman guided the Bucs to an easy 36-17 win over the Vikes last October in Minneapolis but then again, the Vikings have a tendency of making unproven QBs look like superstars, e.g. Hoyer, Matt Moore…

  127. Robert Chandler says: Sep 27, 2013 7:11 AM

    When one evaluates Quarterbacks, one should not only look at W-L records. I have watched Freeman play. I have dissected Ponder’s play over three years now. One of them has NFL star potential, in my opinion. One does not have it. One of them has the build, the agility, the arm and the improvisational ability to be a great player if put in a good situation.

    If I were the Vikings, I would definitely inquire and try to pull off a r reasonable trade now. AFTER interviewing the team officials and Freeman to determine any issues with actual attitude (I don’t just blindly buy the slander). If they deem him worthy of the investment, make the move now. You can play him during this meaningless season, and evaluate him in your system. If he is not the right fit, you draft a QB in April (or is it May?) and move on. Freeman could remain as a viable backup then, and you can jettison Ponder and Cassel and have two young signal-callers to build around.

    I’ve been saying for years that the Vikings should trade Peterson for a big return of picks or picks+players. Of course, I got flamed by Viking fans (of which I’m one for 40 years), but I was right back then and still am. Any team that leans on its star RB to the extent this team has is set up to fail. In the current era, it is a nice luxury to have that talent in your RB, but necessary. It IS, however, necessary to have a QB skilled enough to actually concern a defense. I like Freeman and argue against his detractors. The kid was great in college, had a great start to his career with a mediocre ensemble, and has been derailed by outside factors. He is young enough to have a superb carer but needs a fresh start. Watch some SMARTER team grab him and help him restart his career.

  128. jhbart001 says: Sep 27, 2013 2:12 PM

    If i am the vikings i am on the phone. They need to get as many options as they can. Freeman looked great at the metrodome last year and with adrian peterson behind him and with the new set of receivers this offence has no reasons to sputter. Les fraiser is coaching for and extension and ponder is gonna get him fired. If i am fraiser i am knocking on spielmans door saying make that call.

  129. rfollo2013 says: Sep 28, 2013 2:24 PM

    I live in Tampa and the last few days on sports radio a popular big radio announcer and a leading local newspaper sports writer were discussing off field issues with Josh that neither wanted to explain. They only said it was “unprofessional”. Anybody know what that’s about?

  130. rg3andthensome says: Sep 30, 2013 9:46 AM

    In my best Seinfeld immitation….

    Who wants him?

    “Nobody wants you here…..Nobody!!!”

  131. redbengalnation says: Sep 30, 2013 7:44 PM

    @tannethrill,

  132. redbengalnation says: Sep 30, 2013 7:46 PM

    I think we (Bengal fan) could use josh freeman as our STARTING quarterback. this kid has talent the coaching staff in tampa sucks anyway.. get this guy to Cincinnati im sick of noodle arm mini me ANDY KITNA already. get it done mikey!

  133. chawk12thman says: Oct 1, 2013 12:13 PM

    He may fit at the Jags best. Vikings second.

  134. duranedurane says: Oct 2, 2013 7:24 AM

    you guys can forget jacksonville..they trying to win the teddy bridgewater sweepstakes…they aren’t trying to win ONE more game this yr..and cleveland not going to pay almost 7 mil for a guy for ONE yr when they still have weeden, hoyer, and campbell getting paid this yr guaranteed money..less they can move campbell plus pick or player for freeman which for a one yr rental why would u give up a pick or a player when u can just wait till next yr with hoyer… minnesota wont cause the money and he is not marginally better than cassell or ponder..he’s not almost 7 mil better definitely..so i say cut the guy take ur losses maybe some team picks him up on waivers and save u a mil or so

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