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Union concerned about handling of Terrelle Pryor concussion

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On Monday night, Raiders quarterback Terrelle Pryor suffered a concussion on a (legal) helmet-to-helmet hit while he was attempting to run the ball near the Denver goal line.

Pryor remained in the game for two plays, even though a replay review of the question of whether he fumbled on the play created a gap of two minutes and 50 seconds between snaps.

After the drive ended, Pryor was taken to the locker room for evaluation.  So why didn’t the evaluation happen sooner?

The NFLPA is concerned about the manner in which the situation was handled, we’re told.  NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy tells PFT that “[a]ll indications are that the Raiders followed the proper protocol.”

Complicating matters is that, in some cases, the symptoms don’t immediately emerge.  Likewise, players remain inclined to hide their symptoms so that they can remain in the game.

Still, with nearly three minutes between snaps, it seems like someone should have taken a closer look at Pryor not after the drive ended, but before the next play.

The broader message to the teams (and to the broadcasters, who were proclaiming Pryor to be “fine” simply because he got up off the ground and didn’t stagger) is that any forceful helmet-to-helmet hit should result in the player being checked out at the next opportunity — even if he otherwise looks fine.

In this specific case, there was ample time to take at least a cursory look at Pryor, but no one seemed to be inclined to do it.

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38 Responses to “Union concerned about handling of Terrelle Pryor concussion”
  1. hanklee1989 says: Sep 25, 2013 8:59 AM

    So any time a player gets hit are teams supposed to take them out for evaluation? There won’t be enough players in uniform if that’s supposed to be the case. If Oakland followed protocol and he checked out, what more are they to do? Most football players acknowledge the risks they take when they put on the uniform. But what they don’t want to acknowledge is the fact that THEY, not the NFL, not Roger Goodell, not their coach, put themselves in that position on a daily basis. It’s like a racecar driver getting injured while drag racing at 300 mph..it’s dangerous? Ya think?

  2. skoobyfl says: Sep 25, 2013 8:59 AM

    They need a helmet to measure the impact velocity & determine if there is a possibility of a concussion, automatically precluding the player from re-entering the game until medically cleared by an independent doctor present for both teams.

    Those doctors need to be like the refs, separate from the team & hired / trained by outside means. This will help alleviate the pressure to play the player instead of saving the man from future trauma.

  3. ccjcsr says: Sep 25, 2013 9:02 AM

    Never go head first into anything….nevermind

  4. vegasgreek says: Sep 25, 2013 9:25 AM

    Raiders should trade a 4th round pick to Tampa Bay for QB Josh Freeman and put him with QB Guru Jeff Tefford

  5. steelerben says: Sep 25, 2013 9:31 AM

    “Sorry about the loss RaiderNation. I don’t remember much! Good hit by whoever it was. I heard our team fought well . . . We will be back!”

    Yeah, that sounds like a guy who is just fine and can continue the series. Just like RG3 looked like a kid that gave you the best chance to win in that Seahawks game before blowing out his knee. The NFL is a meat grinder. 220-350 lbs guys flying around at top speed, in armor, and crashing into each other as hard as they can is not something that can be made safe. You can flag them, you can fine them, you can put in place any protocol that you want; but none of it happens until after the hit has already taken place and the damage is done. Concussions will happen. Broken bones will happen. Torn tendons, muscles and ligaments will happen. Nothing Roger Goddell or the NFLPA does is going to change that.

    Either the NFL needs to move to smaller/slower athletes or everyone needs to just sign a waiver like they are getting onto an Alaskan crabbing boat. One of them will never happen, so if football is going to continue, the other must.

  6. Smarterthanyou says: Sep 25, 2013 9:33 AM

    Next, Players will need a signed permission slip from their wife or mother

  7. harrisonhits2 says: Sep 25, 2013 9:34 AM

    Sideline attorneys who will review each play for league liability are coming soon to a game near you, at least if PFT has its way

  8. chiadam says: Sep 25, 2013 9:37 AM

    They should have been tipped off when he asked where coach Tressel was.

  9. kingmj4891 says: Sep 25, 2013 9:38 AM

    Concussions are not that simple, someone can be hit hard and seem fine for a short period afterwards and then the symptoms occur especially if your body is running on adrenaline. About 7 years ago I was in a car crash in which I hit my head on side of the door window, and felt fine besides the bump on my head, I was walking and able to attend to everything for about 15mins then all of a sudden my head hurt real bad and things went blurry, I was taken to the hospital and guess what I was diagnosed with a concussion. So I believe that Pryor seemed ok after the hit maybe a bit shaken up cause he was hit hard and that the symptoms then came on later after the drive.

  10. demolition510 says: Sep 25, 2013 9:48 AM

    Lets stop the plays if a player gets a hangnail. More commercials. More revenue. Longer games. Longer concession stand hours. Change flat fee parking to hourly. We might be on to something here. Chea-Ching!!!

  11. lastdukestreetking says: Sep 25, 2013 9:50 AM

    Bucs won’t take a 4th rd pick as trade for Freeman. If he walks then they’ll probably get a 3rd rd compensatory pick so they’ll want more for an in-season trade.

  12. filthymcnasty1 says: Sep 25, 2013 9:51 AM

    It was obvious watching the game on TV that he was concussed. The reason the play was under review in the first place is because it’s hard to hold on to the ball when you’re out cold.

    The Raiders should get severely penalized for this.

  13. mackie66 says: Sep 25, 2013 10:19 AM

    I had written a response to the Pryor thing, then thought,,,why?

  14. filthymcnasty1 says: Sep 25, 2013 10:27 AM

    I can give you $650M reasons why the league should take action.

  15. Patriot42 says: Sep 25, 2013 10:31 AM

    You must realize you are talking about the RAIDERS. They probably would allow this guy to play if he lost a eye if it meant they might win a game. Look at the way their fans dress up for the game.

  16. pappageorgio says: Sep 25, 2013 10:36 AM

    I’ve been concussed several times. What I can tell you is that they all don’t come in equal shapes and sizes.

    Specifically, one time I got drilled while playing football. Everyone knew I got drilled. I got up and insisted I was fine and I actually didn’t feel too bad considering. I really must of looked OK, because everyone let me go, several people talked to me. I walked away and was fine for about 3 minutes….then I started to feel not so good. Over the next three minutes I started to feel progressively worse, right up until I was seeing all sorts of crazy colors and lost working control of my limbs……seriously, I was crawling up a set up stairs (and it was only like 5 steps). An bigger player (specifically….the one who drilled me in the first place) had to pick me up and carry me to where I could get looked at.

    I got over that one almost right away too….I was good in day. The last one I had was really minor at first and took me several days to get over.

    The moral of this story…..Every concussion I have had, my first instict was “I’m fine…let’s go”. That is what the human body is telling you. Sometimes the bad sympoms took a few minutes to kick in.

  17. hotrodhart says: Sep 25, 2013 10:37 AM

    Maybe a team of doctors could run onto the field after every play and check each player for concussion symptoms.

  18. denverbronconj says: Sep 25, 2013 10:37 AM

    When u see a guy get tackled and the ball immediately falls out as his arms go limp, it doesn’t take an MD to realize that he’s had a concussion. DOH!!!

  19. cliffordc05 says: Sep 25, 2013 10:43 AM

    I feel like the Raiders followed proper procedure. Players do try to hide their condition from trainers and particularly if they think they ” just got their bell rung. ” It is impossible to have every concussion checked immediately and it is not the fault of the league or the teams.

  20. mogogo1 says: Sep 25, 2013 10:53 AM

    This is why the NFL will never be able to rid themselves of concussion lawsuits. No matter how many tests are done and how many precautions are taken, there will always be somebody claiming it wasn’t enough. They could have them wrapped in bubble wrap and somebody would sue because there wasn’t a fluffy pillow in there, too.

  21. commonsenseisnotcmonman says: Sep 25, 2013 10:58 AM

    denverbronconj says: Sep 25, 2013 10:37 AM

    When u see a guy get tackled and the ball immediately falls out as his arms go limp, it doesn’t take an MD to realize that he’s had a concussion. DOH!!!
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  22. commonsenseisnotcmonman says: Sep 25, 2013 10:59 AM

    denverbronconj says: Sep 25, 2013 10:37 AM

    When u see a guy get tackled and the ball immediately falls out as his arms go limp, it doesn’t take an MD to realize that he’s had a concussion. DOH!!!
    —————————————————– This was my first thought too, as soon as I seen the replay I said “he got knocked out cold”, not sure why no one on the field didnt notice?

  23. granadafan says: Sep 25, 2013 11:13 AM

    commonsenseisnotcmonman says:
    Sep 25, 2013 10:59 AM
    This was my first thought too, as soon as I seen the replay I said “he got knocked out cold”, not sure why no one on the field didnt notice?
    ===============================================

    Perhaps not everyone is looking at the bigscreen and don’t have the benefit of us watching at home of replay after replay after replay. As you said, they’re ON the field and looking at the player, not glued to a TV.

  24. bendoza says: Sep 25, 2013 11:24 AM

    He lost consciousness briefly on the hit. It was visible on the replay. Loss of consciousness, by definition = concussion. Maybe they didn’t catch that from the sideline but he had signs immediately following the hit.

  25. pongonfl says: Sep 25, 2013 11:42 AM

    In real time he was clearly out and limp when he hit the ground. The ball never got nocked out his arms went limp and he never even tried to recover the ball or stop himself from hitting the ground. That he snapped back so quick was amazing. But the officials should have been able to see he went limp.

    Its the culture of the NFL, still, they celebrate those hits and Gruden is among the worst.
    Just read the posts in this thread there is the problem. Its right in front of us.

  26. filthymcnasty1 says: Sep 25, 2013 11:43 AM

    cliffordc05 says:
    Sep 25, 2013 10:43 AM
    I feel like the Raiders followed proper procedure. Players do try to hide their condition from trainers and particularly if they think they ” just got their bell rung. ” It is impossible to have every concussion checked immediately and it is not the fault of the league or the teams.

    ********************************************

    Ridiculous. The play was under review for an eternity. They had plenty of time to check him out.

  27. kdawg9 says: Sep 25, 2013 11:49 AM

    The NFLPA is creating a stink but did they check to see if the Broncos gave Wesley Woodyard a concussion test? I’m sure they didn’t.

  28. radrntn says: Sep 25, 2013 11:52 AM

    lets get to the real story, what would have happened if this was Tom Brady, or Peyton Manning? That is what I want to know.

  29. joetoronto says: Sep 25, 2013 11:57 AM

    The only one that should get fined is that idiot, Woodyard.

    He saw that Pryor was being held up by a teammate and he clearly lead with his head, a true cheap shot all the way.

  30. katojune says: Sep 25, 2013 12:15 PM

    I just re watched the whole drive. Pryor got hit but didn’t stay on the ground for very long. He was walking around and seemed to be able to make the play calls and also was able throw 2 strikes afterwards.

    Also for those that say he lost the ball because he was concussed. I would argue against that in that it was being torn away from his falling body.

    I think the Raiders did right by the protocols.

  31. reggiemckenziesfro says: Sep 25, 2013 1:02 PM

    Why do I get the feeling that if it was Manning that got crushed like that, the Raiders would be penalized, fined and had their first round pick taken. Hmmm.
    Whatever the case might be, the Raiders should be ashamed of themselves for taking 2 minutes and 50 seconds away from the 4 hour Peyton Manning infomercial that was disguised as MNF.
    Raider on

  32. yourmomsnewfriend says: Sep 25, 2013 1:18 PM

    joetoronto says: Sep 25, 2013 11:57 AM

    The only one that should get fined is that idiot, Woodyard.

    He saw that Pryor was being held up by a teammate and he clearly lead with his head, a true cheap shot all the way.

    – – – –

    Homer response.
    It was a good, clean hit. It was simply a result of a rookie QB not having the foresight needed to avoid putting himself in such a situation. Pryor’s fault, through and through.

  33. orangeandbluebeast says: Sep 25, 2013 1:29 PM

    The only one that should get fined is that idiot, Woodyard.

    He saw that Pryor was being held up by a teammate and he clearly lead with his head, a true cheap shot all the way.
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    Watch the play again. It was a legall hit. He led with his shoulder….just a tough break for Pryor.

  34. orangeandbluebeast says: Sep 25, 2013 1:35 PM

    Why do I get the feeling that if it was Manning that got crushed like that, the Raiders would be penalized, fined and had their first round pick taken. Hmmm.
    Whatever the case might be, the Raiders should be ashamed of themselves for taking 2 minutes and 50 seconds away from the 4 hour Peyton Manning infomercial that was disguised as MNF.
    Raider on
    ————————————————————-
    lets get to the real story, what would have happened if this was Tom Brady, or Peyton Manning? That is what I want to know.
    ————————————————————-
    You two don’t know much about football eh? Brady and Manning are pocket passers. People get flagged for hitting them after the ball has been thrown or hitting them around the knees. When you run the ball the rules change. You run around the end as a qb you better get ready to get hammered no matter who you are.
    That is why the pryers, russel wilsons,rg3s, and kapernicks of the league will not be around long. Each of those guys is almost guaranteed to get a career ending/slowing injury at some point.

  35. immafubared says: Sep 25, 2013 1:43 PM

    Not a Pryor fan but he did pretty good in that game considering the D sucked big time.
    What is it with the coaches? He should have been yanked immediately by the coach, the team wasn’t going to win anyways.
    Funny how the coaches all see a catch made, and have all the knowledge on the field but turn a blind eye when a possible hit to the head takes place.

  36. immafubared says: Sep 25, 2013 1:45 PM

    Fire the coach. The staff everyone. Just fire them.

  37. marcinhouston says: Sep 25, 2013 2:28 PM

    The NFL should have a rule that a helmet-to-helmet hit negates any fumble, even against a runner. That way, defenders looking to force turnovers will target the body or the ball not the head, there will be less concussions, and when there are concussions they can be treated promptly without the distraction of replay review or piling on the ball. Do we need a concussed player to emerge seriously injured from the bottom of a pile for this to change? Its just not sportmanlike to win by knocking your opponent out and taking something from them after they are unconscious. Even in boxing, you can score by knocking someone in the head, but you cannot score by doing anything (such as stripping or recovering a ball) after they are already out. Its just not sportsmanlike to take advantage of an unconscious competitor, and when your eyes roll back (figuratively) that should be the same as your knee or elbow being down.

  38. ern215 says: Sep 25, 2013 2:47 PM

    I just hope the young man is ok, he has a bright future and no player deserves lifelong injuries from trying to make a career.
    Go raiders!

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